Santo Domingo.- The Interior and Police Ministry has issued a three-day deadline as of Wednesday for 84,000 citizens who hold firearms with expired licenses to renew their permits, because the authorities will begin to visit the homes of unlicensed firearm owners to impound firearms on Monday January 19th.
Interior and Police Minister Franklin Almeyda Rancier told local media: “If people don’t renew their licenses we are going to revoke them and if three full days after Wednesday they have not made the payment we will cancel the license and impound the firearm in a military and police operative aimed at people’s homes, always with judicial intervention if necessary in each case”, said the minister.
He said that the confiscated firearms would become State property as established in Law 36 on firearms trading, bearing and ownership.
Almeyda said that 157 firearms were impounded during the December restrictions. The minister said that despite what many people believe, bearing firearms is not a right but a concession granted by the State.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Start visiting homes an impounding firearms ?....this sounds interesting ....where is Carlton Heston when we need him....
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
They may need the tanks they used on the Davidians in Waco to get Jander and Tonyc's hardware
From: United States
You mean Chuck Norris.
Well the illegal firearms that the crooks have will stay in the community because the idots don't know where to look.
This man is a complete idiot just like his leader Leonel and his cronies.
From: United States
Jim, you are right.
What kind of education system have these morons attended? Stupidity 101?
So the law abiding citizen will have no weapon and the bad guy will. What a thought.
Written by: josean, 11 Jan 2009 12:12 PM
From: United States
Trujillo also confisated arms!
From: United States
josean, you're right.
I actually do not have an issue as long as they get the intended results. Guns out of the bad guys hands. (If that means ALL.. then do it)
What is laughable is that if they enforced the laws and got rid of the corruption they probably would not need this pathetic attempt.
As macho as Dominicans act they like to take the easy route.
Written by: Amber, 11 Jan 2009 12:50 PM
From: United States
The D.R. is a country that has been riddled with corruption for many, many years. It's not an easy task to reprogram people and to create overnight a country of law abiding citizens. I believe that in this instance, the appropriate thing to do is to fine everyone who allows his license to expire, and to give so many days to renew it. Those who don't comply should be given jail time and, of course, should have their weapons impounded. A person who allows his license to expire is no longer a law-abiding citizen.
There will always be those who carry arms without a license, that happens quite a bit here in the U.S. We also have a lot of murders perpetrated by licensed and unlicensed citizens. So, let's stop bashing the D.R. as if this problem is unique to that country.
Written by: Jander, 11 Jan 2009 1:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic
"From my cold dead fingers" LOL
No I am not gun enthusiast anymore.
Growing up in the North it was mandatory to know how to handle a deer rifle.
Hell if you had deer permit it meant an excused week from school.
I don't own a gun but do support the right to bare arms..
As long a s a person is taught how to respect a gun it less unlikely they will use it for anything other then hunting or self protection.
I don't chase white tail's any more instead I go for split tails with my God given weapon.
From: United States
Sorry, Dominicans should be embarrassed at how they are represented by their politicians. They are illiterate at best. They have had 30 solid years to do the more correct thing. They have chosen to perpetuate corruption and illiteracy to their benefit.
It is unique to the DR because the only thing that is transparent is their corruption and disdain for law and order. They wear this immoral attitude as a badge of honor. Thinking that it makes them a man.
This is the 21st century. Dominicans should look at solving the BIG problems not these little efforts to distract the majority of the public.
You want to know who the bad guys are? Real simple, follow the money. When a general owns and operates a $60,000 SUV he is a bad guy. Is that too difficult for these politicians to get their heads around?
Written by: Jander, 11 Jan 2009 1:42 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Speaking of owning expensive SUV's a couple weeks ago I had a stereo put in my car on the 27 de Febrero and up pulls a fully loaded Escalade and guess who steps out , you got it some Military goon with an entourage. this thing loked like something from Pimp My Ride. WTF how can someone like this own a $90,000.00 Cadillac on a $10,000.00 a year salary.
Written by: josean, 11 Jan 2009 1:57 PM
From: United States
"WTF how can someone like this own a $90,000.00 Cadillac on a $10,000.00 a year salary?"
Lie-onel could you answer the question please?
Written by: Jander, 11 Jan 2009 3:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Lie-onel could you answer the question please
I think that we would need to dig up Balaguer and call up Hippo as well.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
This guy must retire sooner than later, He is either on "Prozac" or his prostate is getting enlarge
by the day, everytime He opens his mouth His pamper must change color!!!
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Se acabo el jueguito; Se acabo lo que se daba!
Patriot Act (The international version for export) is coming to town.
With the body armor, black attire, and ski masks (en el Caribe?).
Fulanito,said: *despite what many people believe, bearing firearms is not a right but a concession granted by the State.
--Some have forgot this ain't Providence, no constitutional right to bare arms here....
--And now with TWO-cans on hand to add surveillance, and ATTACK capabilities, they really put the smack, down.
He went further and said: *issued a three-day deadline as of Wednesday for 84,000 citizens who hold firearms with expired licenses to renew their permits..
--If they don't comply: Baghdad style crashing doors to confiscate, and arrest the scofflaws; Remember, the U.S. Marines were training the national forces....Let me think...How to implement NWO Global war on terror techniques. Tounge in cheek, I know; But, not far from the truth.
Bab, Bad, boys, what you gon' do..
Written by: josean, 11 Jan 2009 10:50 PM
From: United States
Chauncey,
You better turn in that autographed Luger the Fuhrer gave you!
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
I am a bit confused by all the fuss. Why do you need to renew your license if a permit to own a firearm was already attained? Here, in the great liberal state of NY, I am allowed to carry my weapon concealed [except NYC and Buffalo-where I would be likely to need it most!], and I never have to renew or be taxed on this right again for life. Only if I were to become a felon would I have to part with my guns.
Another disturbing issue here is that someone associated bearing a gun with machismo. Quite the contrary, I would consider many of these individuals inept cowards, who would be likely to get killed with their own weapons. Here [USA-northern country], we believe in fully sharpening close combat skills and be ready to fight with our fists and feet and anything else, just in case that gun jams.
Written by: anthonyC, 11 Jan 2009 11:38 PM
From: United States
Written by: josean, 11 Jan 2009 1:57 PM
"WTF how can someone like this own a $90,000.00 Cadillac on a $10,000.00 a year salary?"
Lie-onel could you answer the question please?"
They learned it from the P.R.D.. Of course they have toned it down a bit.
Written by: BASTA, 12 Jan 2009 7:26 AM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
This may be closer to reality than you think.
You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.
In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few That are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and i
Written by: BASTA, 12 Jan 2009 7:28 AM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.
"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.
"Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing."Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."
The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story take
Written by: BASTA, 12 Jan 2009 7:30 AM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue20you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.
A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison.
This case really happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving
Written by: BASTA, 12 Jan 2009 7:31 AM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
is now serving a life term.
How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?
It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.
Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.
Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed Man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.
The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns wa
Written by: BASTA, 12 Jan 2009 7:34 AM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)
Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.
for many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens.
During the years in which the British government incrementally took Away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged whil
Written by: BASTA, 12 Jan 2009 7:35 AM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.
Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands." All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.
When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragg
Written by: BASTA, 12 Jan 2009 7:36 AM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens. How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kind of like cars. Sound familiar?
Written by: generoso, 12 Jan 2009 8:42 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
BASTA
Thank you for your excellent paste of a real life story.
The plan being orquestrated here in DR is the following:
1. Start with a one month temporary ban to measure opposition and poll results.
2. Have an independent "gallup" poll of lower crime figures and accidental shootings during temporary ban.
3. Collect all legal firearms by police force that have not renewed their license fees for various reasons including just being careless.
4. Make new restrictions on right to carry similar to the December ban and make then permanent.
5. Impose new restrictions on ammunition sales.
6. Purge remaining gun owners and restrict licenses to home tenancy only for privilege few and
backers of government only.
7. Begin restrictions on security guard and military gun use.
8. Start the same process with civilian use with the military and security guard companies.
9. Collect remaining guns from retired and ex-military at their homes and businesses.
10. Police state.
Written by: generoso, 12 Jan 2009 10:05 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
In Japan hey have the most strict gun ownership rules but you can buy any weapon you want in the black market for the right price including bazookas. The Yakuza or Japanese mafia have their own fancy gun stores with the latest weapons.
In Switzerland citizens are allowed to take home their assault rifles and store them in their closets.
Again guns don't kill people people kill people. There are more criminal accidents committed by drivers than with guns, yet do we outlaw cars?
Malpractice doctors kill more people than guns, do we outlaw doctors?
If we proceed with the intended ban on firearms I see it a bad omen. The intentions of the present government are not good and they fooling with citizens rights to own firearms that we have had since the fall of dictator Trujillo. And folks there is no way, I repeat NO WAY we are going back to those times. Too much bloodshed, sweat and tears have been spilled by too many patriots for that right.
So don't you even think about it!
From: United States, Reality Check
Everytime I see this weasel (police jefe) in the news, it makes me sick. Know they are taking all the steps to move Lionel to a elected Dictator.
Take the guns from citizens but not the Tigueres so people will live in greater fear and soley depend on the RD Gov for their salvation also amend the RD constitution so that Lionel can stay in power indefinitely.
There are Tigueres in my barrio who have shot other unarmed citizens and the police will not show up and do anything because the poor Dominicans can NOT pay the Santiago police a fee in order for them to do their jobs. This happen one year ago in Jan '08 when Choppo (Jose Lopez Annibal Pichardo) shot a young teenager in the stomach at point blank range and went home to eat san cocho as if nothing happened.
Choppo drives a BLUE HONDA CIVIC that is often parked on Calle "A" Transversal in the barrio of Ensanche Caonabo (Los Platanitos) and his drug house is up the hill to the left of his car. But police will do NOTHING!
Written by: Ducado, 12 Jan 2009 2:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic
We have been robbed twice in the last few weeks. The first time they didn't break into the house but stole the inverter and batteries. The second time, they tied me up, held a gun to my wife's head and stole a large sum of money, lots of jewelry and other valuables. We are now armed 24/7 at a tremendous cost but that does not relieve the trauma or extinguish the terrible memory.
Written by: josean, 12 Jan 2009 2:18 PM
From: United States
Ducado
I am truly sorry this happened to you and your family.
Que dios y Mr. Smith y Mr. Wesson los cuide, te lo digo sinceramente!
From: United States, Reality Check
The Jefe above the "WEASEL" because he looks so slimy needs a reality check.
Come to my barrio of Ensanche Caonabo (Los Platanitos) in Santiago or any poor barrio and make a police call as a average Joe (or Juan in the case of latinos).... You will find out the police will NOT come unless you promise some type of PAYMENT for them to come and do their job.
Consequently, our barrio is controlled by armed Tigueres with illegal pistolas whereas the RD Gov is NOT trying to take theirs away. The whole judical system & law enforcement is CORRUPT and rotten to the core like a dog's vomit. Guys like the WEASEL are so disconnected from the reality of the lives of most Dominicans which are poorer.
Police only do the job if an only if it is a PAY TO PLAY!
But if you want to buy drugs then you can buy them on Calle A Transversal in the barrio noted near the Cibao Staduim & Children's hospital ... you do not have to worry about police...just find the BLUE HONDA ACCORD walk uphill.
Written by: Juango, 12 Jan 2009 8:53 PM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Ducado, I feel your pain. Sorry it happened. The DR can be a difficult place to live for an extranjero. Your rights are "zilch, zero" ! Be very careful how you handle yourself. If ever in a situation similar to what Basta illustrated, If you ever have to defend yourself, make certain there are no witnesses, dump the bodies, make certain the weapon disappears forever (never to be seen again). If ever in an auto accident (your fault or not) and there is a death, run for your life, leave the country for a while. If alone, and a serious injury occurs make certain he does not live. He will come back to haunt you the remaining portion of your life ( and then, you wished YOU would have died).
Written by: generoso, 12 Jan 2009 9:14 PM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
BTW guys the nickname of the guy in the picture by his own colleagues and other presidential palace officials is ....now get this and pay attention: TRUJILLITO.
I didn't say it they did.
Written by: josean, 13 Jan 2009 7:47 AM
From: United States
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Written by: Ducado, 12 Jan 2009 2:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic
We have been robbed twice in the last few weeks. The first time they didn't break into the house but stole the inverter and batteries. The second time, they tied me up, held a gun to my wife's head and stole a large sum of money, lots of jewelry and other valuables. We are now armed 24/7 at a tremendous cost but that does not relieve the trauma or extinguish the terrible memory.
Ducado,
Things have really change haven't they? When until a few years ago you could sleep with your door open. My sympathies for you and your wife. It's not the dream many hardworking people saved part of their liveds and sacrificed to go and lose it to some bare-foot knuckle head ignoramus. I've seen a sad departure from what my country "used to be", to barred windows, gated doors, everyone suspicious. Is this what the envidiosos call progress?
This reminds me of a NYC crimmie cliche: Manhattan makes it & Brooklyn takes it!
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Well the illegal firearms that the crooks have will stay in the community because the idots don't know where to look.
This man is a complete idiot just like his leader Leonel and his cronies.
Jim, you are right.
What kind of education system have these morons attended? Stupidity 101?
So the law abiding citizen will have no weapon and the bad guy will. What a thought.
I actually do not have an issue as long as they get the intended results. Guns out of the bad guys hands. (If that means ALL.. then do it)
What is laughable is that if they enforced the laws and got rid of the corruption they probably would not need this pathetic attempt.
As macho as Dominicans act they like to take the easy route.
There will always be those who carry arms without a license, that happens quite a bit here in the U.S. We also have a lot of murders perpetrated by licensed and unlicensed citizens. So, let's stop bashing the D.R. as if this problem is unique to that country.
No I am not gun enthusiast anymore.
Growing up in the North it was mandatory to know how to handle a deer rifle.
Hell if you had deer permit it meant an excused week from school.
I don't own a gun but do support the right to bare arms..
As long a s a person is taught how to respect a gun it less unlikely they will use it for anything other then hunting or self protection.
I don't chase white tail's any more instead I go for split tails with my God given weapon.
It is unique to the DR because the only thing that is transparent is their corruption and disdain for law and order. They wear this immoral attitude as a badge of honor. Thinking that it makes them a man.
This is the 21st century. Dominicans should look at solving the BIG problems not these little efforts to distract the majority of the public.
You want to know who the bad guys are? Real simple, follow the money. When a general owns and operates a $60,000 SUV he is a bad guy. Is that too difficult for these politicians to get their heads around?
Lie-onel could you answer the question please?
I think that we would need to dig up Balaguer and call up Hippo as well.
by the day, everytime He opens his mouth His pamper must change color!!!
Patriot Act (The international version for export) is coming to town.
With the body armor, black attire, and ski masks (en el Caribe?).
Fulanito,said: *despite what many people believe, bearing firearms is not a right but a concession granted by the State.
--Some have forgot this ain't Providence, no constitutional right to bare arms here....
--And now with TWO-cans on hand to add surveillance, and ATTACK capabilities, they really put the smack, down.
He went further and said: *issued a three-day deadline as of Wednesday for 84,000 citizens who hold firearms with expired licenses to renew their permits..
--If they don't comply: Baghdad style crashing doors to confiscate, and arrest the scofflaws; Remember, the U.S. Marines were training the national forces....Let me think...How to implement NWO Global war on terror techniques. Tounge in cheek, I know; But, not far from the truth.
Bab, Bad, boys, what you gon' do..
You better turn in that autographed Luger the Fuhrer gave you!
Another disturbing issue here is that someone associated bearing a gun with machismo. Quite the contrary, I would consider many of these individuals inept cowards, who would be likely to get killed with their own weapons. Here [USA-northern country], we believe in fully sharpening close combat skills and be ready to fight with our fists and feet and anything else, just in case that gun jams.
"WTF how can someone like this own a $90,000.00 Cadillac on a $10,000.00 a year salary?"
Lie-onel could you answer the question please?"
They learned it from the P.R.D.. Of course they have toned it down a bit.
You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.
In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few That are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and i
"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.
"Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing."Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."
The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story take
A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison.
This case really happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving
How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?
It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.
Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.
Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed Man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.
The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns wa
Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.
for many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens.
During the years in which the British government incrementally took Away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged whil
Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands." All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.
When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragg
When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens. How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kind of like cars. Sound familiar?
Thank you for your excellent paste of a real life story.
The plan being orquestrated here in DR is the following:
1. Start with a one month temporary ban to measure opposition and poll results.
2. Have an independent "gallup" poll of lower crime figures and accidental shootings during temporary ban.
3. Collect all legal firearms by police force that have not renewed their license fees for various reasons including just being careless.
4. Make new restrictions on right to carry similar to the December ban and make then permanent.
5. Impose new restrictions on ammunition sales.
6. Purge remaining gun owners and restrict licenses to home tenancy only for privilege few and
backers of government only.
7. Begin restrictions on security guard and military gun use.
8. Start the same process with civilian use with the military and security guard companies.
9. Collect remaining guns from retired and ex-military at their homes and businesses.
10. Police state.
In Switzerland citizens are allowed to take home their assault rifles and store them in their closets.
Again guns don't kill people people kill people. There are more criminal accidents committed by drivers than with guns, yet do we outlaw cars?
Malpractice doctors kill more people than guns, do we outlaw doctors?
If we proceed with the intended ban on firearms I see it a bad omen. The intentions of the present government are not good and they fooling with citizens rights to own firearms that we have had since the fall of dictator Trujillo. And folks there is no way, I repeat NO WAY we are going back to those times. Too much bloodshed, sweat and tears have been spilled by too many patriots for that right.
So don't you even think about it!
Take the guns from citizens but not the Tigueres so people will live in greater fear and soley depend on the RD Gov for their salvation also amend the RD constitution so that Lionel can stay in power indefinitely.
There are Tigueres in my barrio who have shot other unarmed citizens and the police will not show up and do anything because the poor Dominicans can NOT pay the Santiago police a fee in order for them to do their jobs. This happen one year ago in Jan '08 when Choppo (Jose Lopez Annibal Pichardo) shot a young teenager in the stomach at point blank range and went home to eat san cocho as if nothing happened.
Choppo drives a BLUE HONDA CIVIC that is often parked on Calle "A" Transversal in the barrio of Ensanche Caonabo (Los Platanitos) and his drug house is up the hill to the left of his car. But police will do NOTHING!
I am truly sorry this happened to you and your family.
Que dios y Mr. Smith y Mr. Wesson los cuide, te lo digo sinceramente!
Come to my barrio of Ensanche Caonabo (Los Platanitos) in Santiago or any poor barrio and make a police call as a average Joe (or Juan in the case of latinos).... You will find out the police will NOT come unless you promise some type of PAYMENT for them to come and do their job.
Consequently, our barrio is controlled by armed Tigueres with illegal pistolas whereas the RD Gov is NOT trying to take theirs away. The whole judical system & law enforcement is CORRUPT and rotten to the core like a dog's vomit. Guys like the WEASEL are so disconnected from the reality of the lives of most Dominicans which are poorer.
Police only do the job if an only if it is a PAY TO PLAY!
But if you want to buy drugs then you can buy them on Calle A Transversal in the barrio noted near the Cibao Staduim & Children's hospital ... you do not have to worry about police...just find the BLUE HONDA ACCORD walk uphill.
I didn't say it they did.
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From: Dominican Republic
We have been robbed twice in the last few weeks. The first time they didn't break into the house but stole the inverter and batteries. The second time, they tied me up, held a gun to my wife's head and stole a large sum of money, lots of jewelry and other valuables. We are now armed 24/7 at a tremendous cost but that does not relieve the trauma or extinguish the terrible memory.
Ducado,
Things have really change haven't they? When until a few years ago you could sleep with your door open. My sympathies for you and your wife. It's not the dream many hardworking people saved part of their liveds and sacrificed to go and lose it to some bare-foot knuckle head ignoramus. I've seen a sad departure from what my country "used to be", to barred windows, gated doors, everyone suspicious. Is this what the envidiosos call progress?
This reminds me of a NYC crimmie cliche: Manhattan makes it & Brooklyn takes it!