From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
this is sad and if we dont have standards that fit all we can never be a just society....These poor people legal or not should not be made targets of
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Jan 2009 11:03 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
As much as I dislike this priest and the others of his ilk, I can't help but agree with him on this case. If the law is going to be applied, then it needs to be done so on all cases, including on the business consortiums working in the public sector. As the late Juan Bosch would say: "O jugamos todos, o se rompe la baraja".
From: United States, Reality Check
I have more respect for this priest than I have for any of our representatives in the US Embassy who are afraid to take a position. What is the US position on this if any ? Guys see what our American tax dollars pay for?
I have more respect for the Haitians who just want to work vs. the RD Gov officials who micro-traffick drugs in my Santiago barrio of Ensanche Caonabo (Los Platanitos) near the Cibao Stadium and Children's hosptial!
Fannin and staff are worthless and they show where they stand by their silence! Great leaders like Roosevelt, Ghandi, Kennedy, Dr. King and Reagan would have never got anything done .... if they were kiss azzes!
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 12:03 PM
From: United States
JD,
I with you except Regan!
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Jan 2009 12:05 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Don't worry, JD, I'm almost sure that Barry will get his arse removed once he gets word about the Embassy's inaction (or at least that's what I want to believe anyway).
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 12:06 PM
From: United States
“President Fernandez constantly talks about the problem abroad but when he’s here he shuts his mouth and closes his eyes,”
Thank you Jesus!
Written by: generoso, 6 Jan 2009 12:29 PM
From: United States, DR
The Haitian problem has to be met face on by the aloof authorities that are just wishful thinking that it will go away and disappear as if by magic. It is a human time bomb waiting to explode as the Dominican-Haitian economic conditions get worse by the world financial crisis.
The priest is right and has spoken the truth. This is the time not be aloof and in denial and face this
huge problem before we make a mountain out of a molehill.
President LF should be traveling to the border and getting opinions from residents there to try to implant urgent solutions before the situation gets out of hand.
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
They must be deported right away..............................Enough is enough!!!!!!
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 12:33 PM
From: United States
Professor,
"President LF should be traveling to the border and getting opinions from residents there to try to implant urgent solutions before the situation gets out of hand.'
Now there you go again, trying to be logical!
From: United States, Washington
Rubby, many people in the US would like to see you deported, or at least block migration overall :-) Not you personally.
Anyhow, can anyone tell me any country that has successfully addressed immigration issues unilaterally? I've been researching this for a while, and I can't come up with any, not even the US! To address Migration issues, you need bilateral and regional efforts that takes into account local needs and humanitarian concerns. But above all, we need a normative approach that is shaped by Human Rights that protects the dignity of EVERY person. Random roundups and deportations is a failed strategy that hurts families, is borderline racist, and address the symptom not the route causes.
We need to help Haiti develop jobs on their side of the border, if we would like to see immigration to the DR decreased. All the money we spend on deportations, we can reinvest in the border zone.
Written by: generoso, 6 Jan 2009 12:42 PM
From: United States, DR
josean
I can't help being a wishful thinker!
BTW you have the "gipper" Reagan very present in your life still? Wasn't he wonderful?
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 12:52 PM
From: United States
Not if you were an Air Traffic controller or a Marine in Beruit Lebanon!
Written by: generoso, 6 Jan 2009 12:59 PM
From: United States, DR
josean
You know your history well. I just hope that Mr Obama can inspire us in the ways that Ronald Reagan did at a time when American confidence was at the lowest point after the Carter administration snafus with the bad policies and the Iran hostage crisis and the aftermath of the Vietnam war doom and gloom and anti military sentiments.
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Jan 2009 1:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
I find it strange that goulet hasn't bitten your head off for attacking one of his idols, josean. LOL
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 1:13 PM
From: United States
g,
I really think that Obama's inaugural speech has to be at the level of Roosevelt's “Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself” first inaugural address in 1932, Kennedy's 1961 speech "ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country" and Dr. Kings I have a dream speech of 1963.
The country and world really needs to be motivated to work hard and work together to deal with this impeding catastrophe. I think a great speech will do a lot to initiate that long hard process!
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 1:14 PM
From: United States
L,
The day is still young.
Written by: generoso, 6 Jan 2009 1:36 PM
From: United States, DR
josean
Very true and well put, although I prefer Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech out of all the one's you mentioned.
And I sure hope Obama's aftermath is not like King's otherwise I will find a hole to hide in to shelter from the apocalypse that will follow.
Written by: Jander, 6 Jan 2009 1:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Hmmm what does the US Embassy have to do with this.
Do Embassies in other countries interfere with immigration.
Are the Italian , French, Hungarian Ambassdors doing anything.
I agree that the current US Ambassador to the DR is more or less a figure head, but this isn't his /our job..is it ?
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 1:42 PM
From: United States
Written by: generoso, 6 Jan 2009 1:45 PM
From: United States, DR
Jander
Our US big brothers really don't have anything to do with this, if they choose not do have anything to do with this.
If they choose to prod the Dominican government to take some action, they can do that too.
The US diplomatic delegation is only responsible for the welfare of American citizens and their "interests" abroad. That is a wide definition but it can encompass a lot.
It is all a matter of "if they choose to throw a hint at LF then that hint would be heard" and maybe it will resonate in higher circles.
It is really to the discretion of the US ambassador and the course of action that he chooses to take according to state department guidelines.
Written by: generoso, 6 Jan 2009 1:49 PM
From: United States, DR
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Jan 2009 1:52 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Maybe that's the reason behind his being on Toronto, josean. He's trying to buy some "winter disguise" in order to hide his "shame". LOL
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 1:58 PM
From: United States
L,
From the looks of the picture that's a BIG, pardon the pun, "ASS" shame to disguise.
I kow, I know I should not use the word PARDON, Lie-onel has copywrighted it!
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
I try to stay out of the Haitian food fights ...and I agree The US embassy should keep its mouth shut unless told to otherwise by the president...and if Obama can do what Reagan did in motivating America then he will be a winner ....If he turns into a wishy washy Carter {the Souths Revenge for Shermans march to the sea} we are all in big trouble
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 2:23 PM
From: United States
Like Roosevelt was the man called to clean up the trickle down economics of Herbert Hoover and the Republicans that gave us the Great Depression; now Obama is the man history has called on to eradicate the Voodoo Economics, ie Reganomics, of the last 28 years that have almost destroyed the US and the world economy!
Written by: Jander, 6 Jan 2009 2:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Generoso , thanks for the confirmation.
I think that like any Embassy, they will get involved in things they know will benefit their citizens or country. I don't beleive any country wants to get involved with this domestic problem between neighbors more than they are already.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
josean as usual you are in a very small whining minority
From: United States
Haiti is not changing, Haiti is incapable of change in the long run. That's why Dominican Republic needs to take serious the illegal haitian problem. More people in a country that can't provide enough for it's own citizens that's a crime. Militarize the border and put up a wall PRONTO!!!!!
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 2:36 PM
From: United States
Chauncey,
You certainly would know what it is to be in the minority, have been on the wrongside of almost every issue in your life.
I would not be surprised if you had rooted for the Japanese at Pearl Harbor, my little neo fascist friend!
From: United States
They should hire the almighty Israeli army to patrol the Haitian/Dominican border. I bet they can control the problem. True, but do they have the wit and can they out maneuver border officials corruption tactics? Launch a few missiles here and there, maybe that will scare them. Those border officials are a bunch of jerks feeding off peoples misery (kind of reminds me of lawyers) anyway they will force bribes from Haitians in complete disregards to consequences.
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Jan 2009 2:48 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
There's no doubt about their efficiency, guillermone, specially when we take into account that they have been the ones to train the colombian military and paramilitary forces, the same ones which have dealt so crushing blows to the FARC's on recent years.
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 2:51 PM
From: United States
They also supplied the racist apartheid South African forces that murder innocent South Africans trying to liberate themselves!
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 3:01 PM
From: United States
The Thousand Points of "REPUBLICANITO CUBANITO" Light has returned!
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Jan 2009 3:03 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Now that you mention them, have you heard about Alpha 66, josean?
Written by: BASTA, 6 Jan 2009 3:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
They must be deported right away..............................Enough is enough!!!!!! Are we talking about the glut of Dominicans in NYC
From: Haiti
where is all my smart haitians ? I miss you guys..thse guys here are chating here instead of debate the subject..hmmmmmmmmm..
Written by: generoso, 6 Jan 2009 3:45 PM
From: United States, DR
Oh Oh we are in trouble now. The macoutes have returned.
From: United States
Aren't there links between Israeli Defense Force and the Brazilian forces as well?
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Jan 2009 4:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
There should be in light of the way in which the brazilian armed forces exterminated the lefty guerrillas based on the Amazon in the 70's, Manny. The standard orders of the rank and file were "take no prisoners" and "shoot to kill".
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
nobody ever accused the Israelis of being stupid just ask Bernie " gonif " Madoff
From: United States, Brooklyn
Deport them at once... and please make sure that they can't cross the border again....
Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 5:00 PM
From: United States
Written by: Lautaro, 6 Jan 2009 3:03 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Now that you mention them, have you heard about Alpha 66, josean?
Yes, but Chauncey has intimate knowledge!
However, he is person non grata because like Kennedy’s air support he was missing in action on the day of the Puerquito Bay invasion!
From: United States
And Preval and Fernandez are on the phone clowning,laughing and practicing their Spanish and their French respectively.
Olo mi amigo Fernandez, Bnnjour mon ami Preval !!
From: United States
I have not heard from the Blamenotthehaitians gang .
From: United States
Good God ,Haitian1804 from the Blamenothehaitians gang is back.
This story is juicer that the story about the million dollar house Preval bought for his mistress
Written by: Trujillo, 6 Jan 2009 5:39 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Problems are not solved with great speeches...
Written by: Trujillo, 6 Jan 2009 5:47 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Anybody can cross the dominican-haitian border with ease. As metioned, there are politicians and guards at the border that are allowing this to continue. The same goes with people leaving the DR in yolas (boats). Corruption is the greatest evil that 3rd world countries face.
Written by: antonioj, 6 Jan 2009 6:59 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: josean, 6 Jan 2009 2:51 PM
From: United States
They also supplied the racist apartheid South African forces that murder innocent South Africans trying to liberate themselves!
"
They use the palestinians territory to practice their war game without retribution, using overwhelming force on an unmatched enemy.
About the haitians should they be sent back ? if we are going to be serious about tackling the immigration issue they should go , otherwise we are just fooling ourselves.
Written by: antonioj, 6 Jan 2009 7:36 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: gouletcolonial, 6 Jan 2009 4:10 PM
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
nobody ever accused the Israelis of being stupid just ask Bernie " gonif " Madoff
"
How do you pronounce his last name.... made off or mad off , please help me GC I have a Ponzi scheme too. He will probably get 3 years, for that amount of money they can lock me up for 10 years
Written by: antonioj, 6 Jan 2009 8:42 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"German billionaire Adolf Merckle, one of the richest men in the world, committed suicide Monday after his business empire got into trouble in the wake of the international financial crisis, Merckle's family said Tuesday in a statement.Merckle, 74, was hit by a train in the southwestern town of Ulm, police said. His family said the economic crisis had "broken" Merckle.
He was number 94 on the Forbes list of the world's richest people. He had fallen from number 44 on the Forbes 2007 rich list as his fortune declined from $12.8 billion to $9.2 billion in 2008"
Very difficult to live on 9 billion when you had double that, my heart goes to him please RIP
From: United States
antonioj, that is a good piece of news. I found it interesting, yet sad and amusing at the same time. But how does that piece of information relate to "600 Haitians occupy a church"?
Also, .........ask Bernie " gonif " Madoff, I think "Gonif" means a thief in yeddish.
Please correct me if I am wrong. My Yedish is a little rusty.
From: United States
"FRENCH GUIANA" The answer is near French Guiana! Haitians illegal paradise French Guiana!
Written by: antonioj, 6 Jan 2009 11:48 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: guillermone, 6 Jan 2009 10:57 PM
From: United States
antonioj, that is a good piece of news. I found it interesting, yet sad and amusing at the same time. But how does that piece of information relate to "600 Haitians occupy a church"?
"
I know I am off topic my apology, I just could not resist to slide this one in.
Are you saying he's Jewish, now I have a good idea where the money will end, and how it will be used for.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
We know that what we’re doing is illegal but it has a humanitarian factor,” Martinez said.
I think the Jesuit Coadjutor answered his own question.
600 ill-eagles bogarting a church is un-called for; Qu'est que cet? A Mariel incident on DR territory ala 1980 Havana? Wil they ask to be ferried out to Little Haiti on Biscayne Blvd, or Miramar-Floride?
This bleeding heart Jesuit has a two-fold mission in subverting DR laws: Transform DR in a haven for anyone wanting to flee poverty in Haiti; Sabotage the little progress has has been achieved during these last 47 years....Jesuites 'pa bon! Jesuits are spies working for Rome:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5730251808212460790http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=jesuithttp://cabotia.org/jesuits.html It's a shame Haiti can't take care of its own citizens; Are we to give exile to those that would demand it by force, strong- arm? A la Brigandina? A la cañona? Oh, oh? Ofrezcome!
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
We know that what we’re doing is illegal but it has a humanitarian factor,” Martinez said.
I think the Jesuit Coadjutor answered his own question.
600 ill-eagles bogarting a church is un-called for; Qu'est que cet? A Mariel incident on DR territory ala 1980 Havana? Wil they ask to be ferried out to Little Haiti on Biscayne Blvd, or Miramar-Floride?
Como dijo el Gran Combo: No hay cama 'pa tanta gente!
Written by: etiennc, 7 Jan 2009 12:56 PM
From: United States
Arsenio is Lambert your last name?
I know a few Lamberts in Haiti.
Written by: etiennc, 7 Jan 2009 12:57 PM
From: United States
"Save the memory of LAS CASAS"
Written by: generoso, 7 Jan 2009 1:39 PM
From: United States, DR
etiennc
Como sa va?
The foul language Haitians have been fumigated! LOL.
From: United States
Israeli army = U.S. arrmy. No difference. (Politics 101)
As far as Haiti and DR, let's do this: All Haitians in DR to go back to Haiti. All Domincans in Haiti to go back to DR. Then DR economy will collapse. The Haitians will go back to agriculture. The DR border guards will starve because there will be no bribes. DR government knows that DR's economy relies heavily on Haitians (and Dark skin Dominicans) to survive. The historic aspect of this is that the Haitians know that DR is an extension of Haiti (in fact, it's true). When they come to DR, they consider themselves in the eastern part of Haiti. With the current economic crisis, there willl be more Domincans risking their lives by boat in shark infested water to go to Porto-Rico. I believe there are more Domincans living illigally in most countries around the world than any other nation on this planet. What you wish for your in-laws may come back to haunt you.
Written by: Lautaro, 8 Jan 2009 11:09 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
"Domincans living illigally in most countries around the world than any other nation on this planet. What you wish for your in-laws may come back to haunt you."
It's evident that you refuse to learn from your mistakes, Smitty. Would you care to provide PROOFS for all the bs that you're spewing?
From: United States
I am shocked to see people in here praising a criminal like Reagan. Reagan was a mass murderer. Ask the people of Nicaragua, Salvador, Guatelamala, Honduras. Ask the Kurds. Reagan supplied Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons to murder the Kurds, then he said nothing. Reagan armed Osama Bin Laden to fight the Rusian in Afghanistan.
Please, give me a break. Reagan just like Bush was a mass murderer.
From: United States
Lautaro,
I am an activist. I've been fighting for the protection of all immigrants in the U.S. (including my fellow Dominicans and Mexicans). I have fought for immigrants rights all my life. Don't even go there. I traveled to DR when I was 22 years old just to witness the conditions of Haitian immigrants in the batey. I mobilized several international organizations to go to DR to investigate. I am still lobbying Congressman Charles Rangel and others to give a general amnesty to all illegal immigrants in the U.S. I am going to put a lot of pressure on the Obama administration also.
I have lobbied the U.S. government at the local and federal level to legalize all illegal immigrants in the U.S.
Written by: Lautaro, 8 Jan 2009 11:44 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Again, I'm just asking proofs for the following bs that you spewed:
"Domincans living illigally in most countries around the world than any other nation on this planet. "
I couldn't care less if you were to be Jesus Christ himself, as long as you back up with documented proofs any bs that you might say about my countrymen, nothing more, nothing less.
Written by: generoso, 8 Jan 2009 12:09 PM
From: United States, DR
Lautaro
He will not provide any proof. Just read the previous historically incorrect and distorted facts that
he stated about Reagan.
LostForever is just full of air.
Written by: Lautaro, 8 Jan 2009 12:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
And how does NYC translate itself as "in most countries around the world", Schmidt? Again, the only thing that you have proven is that you're full of hot air, as generoso stated. Or, combining GC and ettienc's lines in one, full of bovine waste from the grassy knoll school of thought.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
Written by: etiennc, 7 Jan 2009 12:56 PM
From: United States
Arsenio is Lambert your last name?
I know a few Lamberts in Haiti.
No, Etienne; It's Lembert! My family is from Barahona; I'm a grand son of Jose Joaquin Lembert; His grandfather came from France to supervise a company and stayed. The rest is histoire.
From: Netherlands
I know Reginio personally and have seen how he worked to improve the living of the people in the border of Domincan Republic and Haiti. He is not being liked by neither the political as the Roman Catholic hierarchy and establishment.
That's because he is a honest man with compassion with the poor and tries to educate the people in the border region. He teaches them to organise themselves so that they can survive in this difficult world.
I wished we had more of these type of persons in the Dominican Republic and Haiti. Life would be a lot better than now, where we have a lot of corrupt politicians and a Roman Catholic church headed by a politician who apparently forgot what is wriiten in the Bible. One of his "great" statements is that law is abided and respected in the Dominican Republic in the treatment of Haitians in the Dominican Republic.
Regino you are a hero and possibly a saint.
Written by: generoso, 8 Jan 2009 2:08 PM
From: United States, DR
maxsanpedro
I have not had the pleasure of meeting Regino in person, but you have. And I believe you.
You sound like a decent and honest person who would not lie to help himself or others. Bless.
From: Netherlands
my dear generoso, thank you for the trust and the compliments. It feels good to see there are people different than ArsenioALembertJr. His comment shows why we are right. His approach "If don't like the message shoot the messenger".
From: United States
Lautaro & generoso,
Dominican immigrants in NY show the same trend worldwide (I am talking about data per capita. I am not talking in term of absolute number). Per capita, DR has more illegal Dominicans.
There are some wonderful Domincans inside and outside DR. Before my father died, he started to built a vacation house in DR. I never go back to DR to claim the house/land. I have the papers. I have been more interested in traveling to other countries in Asia, Europe and Africa. Maybe I'll hire a Dominican lawyer to handle this issue. Maybe I should complete the construction and donate the house to a Dominican/Haitian family.
Written by: generoso, 8 Jan 2009 2:57 PM
From: United States, DR
LostForever
Stop all the bull and baloney please. Just send me the papers and "titulo catastral" if you have it.
I will find a worthy cause to donate your house to, if it exists, and is still there not occupied by 100 squatters.
Written by: Lautaro, 8 Jan 2009 3:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Until you show the proofs, all that you said will be treated for what they are, Schmidt, that is, as nonsensical BS and hot air from a bitter and envious person. Sometimes I wonder if all that resentment against DR stem from the same source than the one afflicting your chimere boss Aristide, that is, the fact of having received the middle finger by one of our beautiful cibaeñas. If that's so, then I pity you, but that's not reason enough to blame an entire country for your social misfortunes.
From: United States
I learned that some family members were fighting over the house because no one has ever come to live there. Last time I went to DR for vacation (9 years ago) I went to visit the unfinished construction. There was no one living there. But I was told that the family from whom my father bought the land came back to fight over it beacuse they realized that no one has claimed the land for a long time.
Written by: antonioj, 8 Jan 2009 3:23 PM
From: Canada, home safe
hhhhhmmmm !! the truth shall set you free, do not squeeze it out jejeje
From: United States
Lost for Ever if the Haitians ever take over the DR because of your political activism, I am coming after you and I will make sure you get lost for ever.
From: United States
The Haitians and the Dominicans live in Harmony here in the U.S. The Porto Ricans have beef with the Dominicans or vise versa. The Dominicans have made lot of progress in New York politically . They have won seats as assemblymen and councilmembers. The Porto Ricans are very jealous of the Domincans because, as agroup, Domincans are climbing up the ladders at a much faster pace than the Porto Ricans. If you call a Porto Rican "Domincan", he or she will feel insulted.
Later, I am going to dine at a Domincan restaurant near me in NY City.
From: United States
guillermone,
I haven't yet given the signal to the Haitians to take over DR. Leonel had lot Haitian friends when he used to go to school in Manhattan. Leonel is a double agent. He is spying for the Haitians. LOL.
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2009 8:30 PM
From: United States
So your saying Lie-onel is Bi?
I mean bi-loyal of course, mal pensado!
From: United States
Yeah, man I know your plans, You really want to become the President of Spanish Haiti when the Haitians invade and take over the DR. You are going to make the Jesuit Priest the secretary of state. And Leonel will be your vice president.
Me, I am going to be part of the underground revolutionary forces and when you get to power we will overthrow your gov't by a coup d'etat and if that does not work, I will wait for your ride on the malecon on your black limo and together with my Mocano friends will take care of you.
This time around I will make sure your driver does not talk.
Ok enough joking. Listen lostforever, I can talk dum too. I don't think you are for real. Your post don't sound coherent. I agree with Lautaro, I think you are full of hot hair. I don't believe that your are an activist. fighting for the protection of all immigrants. If you mobilized several int'l Org.to go to DR to investigate is a bunch of crap. It is just wishful thinking and delusions of grandeur.
From: United States
guillermone,
I know that I have posted controvesial remarks here, most of the time in response to some controversial and insulting posts in regard to the Haitians. The blame can go on both sides. You can't figure out when I am B.S.ing or not. I wanted to get the worst out of Dominicans when comes resentment toward Haitians. I have succeeded. You guys have provided me good materials for my upcoming book. In the heat of the moment, I saw the worst exchanges between Haitians and Domincans. I pushed your buttons to the extreme. Thank you for the participation of all.
By the way, your joke is a hit. I love it. LOL
Now I want to show the true and serious side of me. The Artist/Activist. The strong advocate for immigrant rights. I taught Bill Clinton to speak a few Haitian creole phrases and expressions when he traveled to Haiti. The pressure will be on Obama to legalize all illegal immigrants here. That's high on my agenda.
From: United States
I have learned a lot in this forum. Thanks.
From: United States
Is this priest Dominican?
From: United States
OK, lostforever, if it is true that you fight for the rights of immigrants then keep and do all of your activism in the USA. Do not come to the DR, stay out. or just go to a resort when you come visit. Help your country by helping the Dominican poor. The US has all the money and resources to help the Haitians. But help them in Haiti, not in the DR. KEEP HAITIANS OUT OF THE DR!!! That way they don't take away jobs from the poor dominicanos and our people won't need to commit suicide by taking a Yola to Puerto Rico because all of the Haitians are taking away jobs from Dominicans. And don't give me that BS that Haitians perform jobs Dominicans won't do. That is a bunch of crap. Haitians depress wages so low that it has become cheaper for a Dominican to stay home and not work. The only job some Dominican won't do is cut suger cane other then that a dominicano will do any kind of work if he is paid fairly. The only people who benefit from Haitian labor is the rich Dominican bourgeois.
From: United States
I am an international activist. I am a citizen of the world. All human lives are valuable. I have no borders. I'll enter hell if I have to save a life. I have traveled to the most remote and oscure part of this planet. Activism gives my life a purpose. I am currently constructing two schools in Benin, West Africa. I am a good friend of Haitian Superstar Wyclef Jean. I participated in his fund raising effort to help poor Haitians. He has raised milions of dollars. I'll travel to Dominican Republic in the future to adopt one poor Haitian and one poor Domincan. Maybe I should turn my father's vacation home into a school in DR.
Dominican Republic is high on my agenda (the exploitation of Haitian workers is unacceptable). This is a human rights issue. I have enough contacts inside DR to continue my inquiry.
From: United States
Anyway, I still think you are full of it, but if it is true Then give Haitians money and the tools to go back to rebuld their country and help the people in Haiti. Do not give these people a hand out and Do not promote illegal immigration in the Dominican Republic Please. Many times with the intent to help, you cause more harm then good and perpetuate precisely the very same problem you actually intend to solve. Do you know how many billions of dollars go into Haiti every year, yet their conditions and situation gets worse by the minute. Haiti does and deserves help, but it must be done in the right way and not at the expense of another poor and defenseless country like the DR.
Anyway, I just hope I am not wasting my breath with you because you just don't seem real. I am sorry but you don't sound legitimate, You seem so far fetched. You come across as the international savior, a Jesus Christ wannabee. And I am particurly leery of people who anonimously start to pull rank like you do
From: United States
My deeds speak loud enough. I don't have to convince you of anything. I am real.
I agree with you in one instance that there is so much money flowing in Haiti now. The NGOs are pocketing most of it.
Written by: Lautaro, 9 Jan 2009 7:43 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
guillermone have you heard the phrase: "Dime de qué alardeas y te diré de que careces" (Tell me what are you gloating about and I'll tell you what you lack)? I think that this brief phrase summarizes what Schmidt here represents quite neatly.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
lautaro tell lost forever to get lost
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 8:13 AM
From: United States, DR
LostForever
You are a big blabber mouth and fantasize and make up all these stories.
You are probably another Haitian student living in the DR having a little "fun" with his other student buddies in the net.
But all your delusions of "grandeur" are good, maybe one day you will be working a real job instead
of sucking up your mom and dad's money making up up these lies in an otherwise serious discussion by responsible individuals.
From: United States
Lautaro, generoso, gouletcolonial,
Did you know I dedicated the entire one-hour of my TV show in New York to raise money for Haiti, Cuba, Dominican Republic and Texas after the four hurricanes that just passed.
I pushed your button to the extreme just to get your reaction. I wanted to get the input of angry Haitians and angry Domincans on the historic matters between the two republics. We both presented our arguments convincingly. Now I believe I am ready to complete my book.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
Written by: maxsanpedro, 8 Jan 2009 2:35 PM
From: Netherlands
my dear generoso, thank you for the trust and the compliments. It feels good to see there are people different than ArsenioALembertJr. His comment shows why we are right. His approach "If don't like the message shoot the messenger".
Regino you are a hero and possibly a saint.
MAXSTPIETER:
How little you know, meister?
I especially admire your tactic of going behind a person, and soliciting opponents like a snake in the grass. An enemy of mine, etc....
Danka Vel.
If you actually knew and realized who the Jesuites were you wouldn't vouche for them is such a pusilanimous manner. Ask around, google Jesuits, or yahoo, it! But, don't come out of the wood work with the cockamamie defence of a Jesuit Agent. "You're my hero, and possibly a saint"?
ST. Pieter Hans Kolvenbach the Jesuit of Amsterdam perhaps?
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htmBut, not in heaven.
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 10:14 AM
From: United States, DR
LostForever
Keep dreaming, author, TV journalist, scam artist, how about joining forces to resell the Jaragua to a wealthy Haitian? We can make them a good deal. Little money down and 99 years to pay.
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 10:27 AM
From: United States, DR
Arsenio
Please don't be so harsh on religious men. Be more charitable, I mean this priest whether you like his order or not is stuck in a border town in DR doing charity work and living very frugally.
He looks like a good man he has a compassionate face.
I mean you are from Barahona and I have heard good things from your family there, you know
how tough things are in Azua, Barahona, and the south in general. Because all the governments once in power seem to forget about people from the "poor south".
Well Dajabón is 10 times worse, the poverty there is scary and I have been to India and Africa both.
There are many good priest around in DR who do good work, some are true saints like father Camilo, archbishop of La Vega and others. There are also some real bad priests, pedophiles and
politicians, it takes all kinds. Don't be so quick on the draw without having all the facts first.
From: United States
Ok, Lostforever, now you are a public figure, you are a TV producer and have your own show. Man!! How do you find the time to do all of those things write books, travel around the world, build schools in Benin, do fund raises and collect millions of dollars to donate, and yet you still have time left over to write blogs. That is truly amazing!! I will give you credit for that. By the way, since you are a public figure, and you promote worthy causes, obviously you have nothing to hide and I guess there is no need to write under an pseudonym. So who are you and what is the name of your show in NY? Now don't give me any lame excuses because if you do, then I will know for sure, that you are a true fake.
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 10:40 AM
From: United States, DR
LostForever
By unanimous decision you are the winner of "The Golden Shovel Award" for unrepentant and continuous BS, drowning in bull manure all of your opponents by far.
Producer and TV host in New York. BULL!
Name the program or at least the station and time of airing.
If you are a TV host for me answer this very simple question:
What is a prompter in TV lingo?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
dont you mean fluffer oh sorry that was josean
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 10:27 AM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
Arsenio
Please don't be so harsh on religious men. Be more charitable, I mean this priest whether you like his order or not is stuck in a border town in DR doing charity work and living very frugally.
He looks like a good man he has a compassionate face.
Generoso: Much respect to you my brother!
But, when it comes to the Jesuits I want to confide with you the following.
It's like playing cards; If they have the same suit: If it's a spade? It's a spade.
Check this out:
The Extreme Oath of the Jesuits:
"1, _ now, in the presence of Almighty God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed Michael the Archangel, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the holy Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven, and to you, my ghostly father, the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola in the Pontificate of Paul the Third, and continued
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
to the present, do by the womb of the virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear, that his holiness the Pope is Christ's Vice-regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing, given to his Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, states, commonwealths and governments, all being illegal without his sacred confirmation and that they may safely be destroyed. Therefore, to the utmost of my power I shall and will defend this doctrine of his Holiness' right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the now pretended authority and churches of England and Scotland, and branches of the same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere;
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
and all adherents in regard that they be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now renounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or state named Protestants or Liberals, or obedience to any of the laws, magistrates or officers.
I do further declare that the doctrine of the churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots and others of the name Protestants or Liberals to be damnable and they themselves damned who will not forsake the same.
I do further declare, that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of his Holiness' agents in any place wherever I shall be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Ireland or America, or in any other Kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my uttermost to extirpate the heretical Protestants or Liberals' doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, regal or otherwise.
From: United States
You know what guys, after thinking about it for a few minutes. I have decided to leave lostforever alone. You see he apparently suffers from a Quixotic complex and through this forum he has the opportunity to shine, to be a hero and conquer the world. This is how he gets the attention he craves and the only chance to be what ever and who ever he wants to be. That alone just gives him a hard on. Let us not shatter his dreams, hopefully, when he wakes up, he will feel good and relieved from his nocturnal emissions. Afterwards, he will light-up a cigarette, then clean up (or is it the other way around) and go on his merry way and head on to what ever dull and sad life destiny has thrust upon him
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ.
That I may go to any part of the world withersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, the burning sands of the desert of Africa, or the jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
do further declare, that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of his Holiness' agents in any place wherever I shall be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Ireland or America, or in any other Kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my uttermost to extirpate the heretical Protestants or Liberals' doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, regal or otherwise.
I do further promise and declare, that notwithstanding I am dispensed with, to assume my religion heretical, for the propaganda of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they may entrust me and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstance whatever; but to execute all that shall be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me, by you, my ghostly father, or any of this sacred covenant.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
In confirmation of which, I hereby dedicate my life, my soul and all my corporal powers, and with this dagger which I now receive, I will subscribe my name written in my own blood, in testimony thereof; and should I prove false or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the Militia of the Pope cut off my hands and my feet, and my throat from ear to ear, my belly opened and sulphur burned therein, with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul be tortured by demons in an eternal hell forever!
All of which, I, _, do swear by the Blessed Trinity and blessed Sacraments, which I am now to receive, to perform and on my part to keep inviolable; and do call all the heavenly and glorious host of heaven to witness the blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist, and witness the same further with my name written and with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and sealed in the face of this holy covenant."
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)
Source:
........................
http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.htmlFrom: United States
If It wasn't too late, I would have gotten all of you guys some Obama inaugural ball tickets.
From: United States
Come on Lostforever cut it out already. It is not funny anymore.
From: United States
I am serious.
From: United States
The weekend starts. Later I am going to some Compas/Bachata/Merengue/Salsa club to party. Life is good here.
From: United States
I have a strange feeling that Lostfoerever is Haitian1804 under Prozac.
Guys just cut it out.
The only way that I can learn something from you is by being coherent.
You have bombarded me with too much useless infos and got me all confused
NO PUEDO SEGUIR ASI.
Generoso,hard to find your posts in the mist of all these fireworks or firecrackers.You can not stand out like you used to.
This man Kalambert ,monopolizes this discussions and writes too damn much.
This is not a book that we are writing for God s sake,
Make it short,concise , and simple. One paragragh,3 to 4 sentences is enough
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 4:58 PM
From: United States, DR
etiennc01
Arsenio for probably a good reason doesn't like jesuit priests too much and he is writing another best seller regarding the Catholic church. Last time it was Opus Dei
this time is the Jesuits. LOL.
How are you doing?
Forget about LostForever a better name for him would be bulls.it forever.
He has lost all credibility and we are not answering any more of his totally bushu postings.
From: Haiti
hey i m back I was in severe training I was taking a sniper lessons I just graduated and receive a special rifle...I think i'll use it very soon, see how the things are going. Are the Haitians are still inside.Why DR can t have agood political resolution I m not for illegal immigrant noticed to all the trouble that the dominicans prostitues bring to my country...here the gvt is studying a pacific way to solve the problem instead of making the first page everyweek with cruality...Haiti have an image to preserve. i suggest the same thing to DR that's in the good way to look like the old Germany
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 5:24 PM
From: United States, DR
hatian1804
Hey boss man!
We heard you had trouble crossing the border as the military guard that usually let's
you in was transferred and you had to romance a totally new guard with all your sexual charms.
I hope he didn't give you a real hard time and you gave him a nice tip.
Anyway we thought you had a case of dirt cookie indigestion and was out for good.
I am so glad you are back. Hey in that sniper school that you went to did they teach you to become invisible too? What king of weapon did you train in? Chilena shotgun or air rifle with a big bottle? Maybe it was the multiple machete bowgun.
You must also become proficient in the use of that green voo doo powder that turns
people into zombies and carry a big bag of that in case of emergency.
Anyway boss welcome back, I miss having somebody as dumb as you are to kick around all the time. BTW Carmen the resident Dominican prostitute in PAP you liked so much told me confidentially that she will charge you only twice her
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 5:27 PM
From: United States, DR
dt
Written by: antonioj, 9 Jan 2009 10:35 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 5:24 PM
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
hatian1804
Hey boss man!
We heard you had trouble crossing the border as the military guard that usually let's
you in was transferred and you had to romance a totally new guard with all your sexual charms.
I hope he didn't give you a real hard time and you gave him a nice tip
"
Now this is funny ......lol
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
Written by: etiennc01, 9 Jan 2009 4:32 PM
From: United States
I have a strange feeling that Lostfoerever is Haitian1804 under Prozac.
Guys just cut it out.
The only way that I can learn something from you is by being coherent.
You have bombarded me with too much useless infos and got me all confused
NO PUEDO SEGUIR ASI.
Generoso,hard to find your posts in the mist of all these fireworks or firecrackers.You can not stand out like you used to.
This man Kalambert ,monopolizes this discussions and writes too damn much.
This is not a book that we are writing for God s sake,
C'est Monsiuer Lembert pour vous, etienne, svp.
Just trying to school the jovial guys with some 'real' knowledge, not small talk. If you prefer the chi-chat, that's not where I'm at; Or, about. I'm about the reality of what you see is not all there is. The small print. But, simple folks are common, yet, the signs can only be seen by those that are aware of what's up. Fini.
Written by: generoso, 9 Jan 2009 11:48 PM
From: United States, DR
Sir Monsieur Lambert
Are you working on the sequel to "The Da Vinci code". I want to work in the script sil vous plait.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
LEMBERT:Comprende-pas?
Non mon frere,
Au contraire; Je lui donne un peu de connaissance. Est qu' vous est un comedien?
Les Jesuites sont plus dangeroux, je les conait; Et vous, aussi?
Written by: generoso, 10 Jan 2009 10:03 AM
From: United States, DR
Tout mondes cest dangeroux icit, aprend fait le amour premiere.
Ouis je suis un comedien net.
From: United States
Haitian 1804 as you may realize French is Generoso's third language.I feel he is doing a great job.
Haitians have a history of making fun of or criticizing other Haitians trying to speak French .it is way to mask the own deficiency in French.
No wonder we have so many "diol su" ( mispronouncing a word) like you are.
Your English does suck and we do not citicize you nor make fun of you.Your grammar, your syntax will make a dog puke ,but we try the best we can to understand the content or your difficult message.
Let see you westle the French or the Spanish language-professor !
You already have enough problem with English
REVISIT YOUR LAST POST AND TELL ME WHAT IS THE HECK YOU ARE SAYING !
YUCK !!!!!
"The pot calling the kettle black"
Generoso. do not pay him no mind .Let me handle this fool for you.
From: United States
Guys, your French sucks-Yuck !!!!
God, please save me the misfortune of witnessing this crime again. (Pls. explain the crime)
And the rest I I can not readjust it ,I do not know what you are saying
Haitian 1804 See how diffucult it is to understand you.
your Englisl is clumsy.
My advice :Think in English , do not try to translate from Creole to English
Tell me en Creole and I will gladly translate it for you
Written by: antonioj, 11 Jan 2009 10:27 AM
From: Canada, home safe
I do appreciate the effort guys Generoso, and Lembert keep it up. I found Lembert written french in particular to be descent.
From: United States
Por favor, NO CREOLE !!! Let us not give incentives to creole speakers in this forum. We have enough of them in the DR. We don't need anymore of them here.
Written by: antonioj, 11 Jan 2009 2:19 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: guillermone, 11 Jan 2009 1:32 PM
Por favor, NO CREOLE !!! Let us not give incentives to creole speakers in this forum. We have enough of them in the DR. We don't need anymore of them here. "
De que diablo hablas guillermore? al parecer no entiendes lo que lees ,o eres poco inteligente para entender y analizar la conversacion , ademas te estas metiendo en una conversacion privada a la que nadie te ha invitado. Espero que tengas una percepcion mas grande y no seas tan retrogrado como tu colega Rubi.
Generoso,Lembert,Etiennc y yo tenemos una conversacion en la cual discutimos de otro idioma y en ocasiones entre nosotros practicamos frances y espanol y en eso no hay nada malo, pero desafortunadamente tu cabeza de pollo no vale, sale. Me pareces muy fresco y fregado si es verdad tu tienes la libertad de ser estupido e ignorante , y yo tambien tengo la libertad de expresarme en otro Idioma. es muy cansado seguir explicando principios basicos a los iletrados.
From: United States
Well, I guess I snaped a string on the violin. Sorry about it, I guess my timing was off. First of all you do not have a private conversation in this forum, particularly when everyone in the World Wide Web can read what you say and when you do that you are exposing your thoughts to silly, stupid, ignorant, intelligent, quick reflect, thoughtless, spurt of the moment and instantaneous responses from others. And if you consider yourself of a higher caliber, there is a much smarter way to respond to a person when you feel insulted and offended by a statement. That is the risk you take, otherwise exchange personal email addresses and talk all the creol you want without interference. I don't have time to analyze all of the conversations on this forum to determine how you will react or feel about what I say. We are all anonymous and I am dumbfounded to see your rediculous reaction as if I know who you are or care to know you personally. Who cares what I think about your creol. BIG DEAL!!!!
From: United States
"Tell me en Creole and I will gladly translate it for you"
Written by: generoso, 11 Jan 2009 7:44 PM
From: United States, DR
I know that my French stinks and my Creole is lacking, so what? Big deal, I had fun writing it and knew that I had made many mistakes. I could have taken more time and meticulously researched what I wanted to say, but I didn't, that's hard work, I want to play. When I lived in France you could not say a word to the French without them correcting you immediately. One time I almost started a fight with a cab driver when he told me if I was speaking "Africaine".
Everybody is just looking for an opportunity to shine even if by the same token they make the other person look bad. It is part of the surrounding beliefs that "I am superior or better than you are, look you can't spell or I don't know what you mean. Hey guys,
I am just having fun, this is supposed to be ENTERTAINMENT!
From: United States
Guillermone .you may be right, but calm down a bit.
This forum does not only offer the opportumity for hate groups and the mentally challenged to spit their venom at each other,if equally offers the opportinty for all good man of good faith to try to reach out to each otehr and offer mutually satisfying solutions to certain problemes that concern all of us and are driving us apart and insane.
What is the best way to show to someone that I am not you enemy that I may desagree with you but I am no disagreeable and I am not crazy other than by trying to tackle the person's native language.
And futhermore we always try to give the equivalent in English or Spanish.
This is what we call bonding as human beings.
All animals have a way to bond either by grooming each other,by ejecting a smell or by mimicking each other sounds or behaviors.
Tell me if you agree.
Be nice no vain rethoric
Antonioj ,lets see things from Guillomone's vantage point.
"Save the wise men"
Written by: generoso, 11 Jan 2009 7:51 PM
From: United States, DR
By the way what I meant to say was:
Everybody is as dangerous here as the Jesuits are to you.
Learn how to make love first.
Yes, I am only a comedian.
From: United States
Generoso we need all the help we can get jsut to se if we could solve the Haitians Dominicans dillema without blood shed/
And trying your French is just a noble way to show your good intention.
I like your French and keep it up.
Haitians are not qualified to correct your French since they do not command the language themselves.
They would rather speak Creole.A scape route to avoid the grammatical and phonetic restraint of the French.
Compared to what is happening in the middle east , the Haitian Dominicans dilemma is just a lover's quarrel.
Aside from the sickos' posts ( they know who the are)
Written by: antonioj, 11 Jan 2009 8:49 PM
From: Canada, home safe
etiennc, I came out strong no doubt, somehow Guillermone got under my skin, I was upset that a man of his stature will make such a comment,he knows better. I was expecting this from the Rubis of the world, besides I do not like to be restricted. Let's move on.
From: United States
Yes Antonioj ,This is what happens when Guillernome reads too much of Rabid I mean Rubi's racist garbage.
His garbage has infected Gullermone's best judgement by osmosis.
Rubi is not used to the deal with intelligent Haitians that are not cutting sugar cane on his family's plantations or loitering in parks or begging on the streets.
He can not dehumanize and brutalize us but try to demonize us at no avail
He resents the fact that we are vibrant,articulate,educated,professional.and as intellingent as he is if not more inteligent than he is .Being a creature of habit ,his true tempemarnet suggests his erratic behavior despite all the efforts to instill some character in him and curk his destructive tendencies.
He trumpets an all out war against Haitians, even against Haitians living in US and in Canada
i do not read Rabid I mean Rubi's posts anymore because I always feel dirty and need to take a shower.
From: United States
Generoso keep westling with your French and Creole while we are trying to westle with the Spanish and the French
Written by: antonioj, 11 Jan 2009 10:13 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: etiennc01, 11 Jan 2009 10:08 PM
From: United States
Generoso keep westling with your French and Creole while we are trying to westle with the Spanish and the French"
Amen to that !! RIP RUBI
Written by: generoso, 11 Jan 2009 10:25 PM
From: United States, DR
I used to speak creole when I was growing up since my mom loved to always have Haitian cooks and servants since she went to school in France. But I forgot most of it.
Hey guys Rubi is my friend, so lay off of him. He is smarter than you give him credit for.
On the other hand I enjoy talking to you guys and learn from each other so it is a "symbiotic" relationship.
I also like jon jon rice but can not get the mushrooms here. You think they have them at the mercado modelo?
From: United States
Generosos try the Maggy jon jon or go the a vietnamese of a Phillipino markets and ask for dried muschroom.
Soak in a warm water to get the black juice
Hey just betwen you and me Try soy sauce and you will no be able to tell the difference
Generoso I know you have a big mouth do not go around telling anybody.
Last night I tried the mamahuana it seemed to work RISING FROM THE DEAD Halleluya !!!!
I spoke with little pussy cat.she seems so quiet ha ha ha ha
From: United States
Gee, guys I was just trying to be funny. It just came out the wrong way. So I better stick to my day job.
From: United States
Guillernome
Men brains were wired in a way to bond with one another.
They send message though yarning,pissing and body odor to attract one another and form communities,
However men became greedy, they invented weapons,formed stronger communities,and they began to exploit their weaker fellow men.
They invented all enterprises to justify their wickedness,race inferiority and what have you.
They demonized,dehumanaize and brutalized their weaker fellow human beings.They enslaved them
When we try to throw a few foreign words,phrases sentences at each other no matter how clumsy we are, this our natunai instincts trying to reach out and forms bonds.
In a time where food is scarce and we witness the fear in some of our posters translated in hate.When we meet breed like Rabid I mean Rubi who calls for the exterminination of a group of people frearing they may try to share his food supply,it is refreshing to see posters like Generoso trying to reach out and form bonds.
From: Netherlands
Well ArsenioALembertJr, again you showed your class. Next time you pretend to show your knowledge, you'd better shut up. Apparently you got something Dutch, but don't get it right. If you want to start a discussion in Dutch, you'd better learn Dutch first. Like they say in Dutch "Je hebt de klok horen luiden maar weet niet waar de klepel hangt.".
Please improve your technique and level of discussing, otherwise we might conclude that you're a pitiful racist and fascist..
The way you "discuss" is below level. so a good advice study and analyse things before you speak.. Again in Dutch "Je lult uit je nek.".
Written by: Lautaro, 12 Jan 2009 11:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Can any of you give me the recipe for some "mais moulin"? I have it from good authority that it's one of the best haitian dishes out there.
Written by: antonioj, 12 Jan 2009 11:36 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: Lautaro, 12 Jan 2009 11:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Can any of you give me the recipe for some "mais moulin"? I have it from good authority that it's one of the best haitian dishes out there.
"
try a jon jon rice with crevette(shrimp) and side dish lambi(Conch) and a barbancourt on the rock Generoso that my favourite meal.
Lautaro, mais moulin con friole is great too
http://www.everythinghaitian.com/Mais%20Moulin.aspFrom: Haiti
I m back, maybe Genoroso is not going to let you guys know he makes fun of my english many times, but I don t care. this is not a forum about languages...I don t understand why you are so upset about me saying that his french suck,French is not like English people who speak french will feel bad when you just come and kill all the rules of the language here s what I call a crime Lautaro. Alors, Je ne vois pas la raison de ce tohu-bohu. else you guys love Haitian food this much maybe you should pay a visite to Haiti I ll organize the trip I have agood friend of mine who own a restaurant at Petion-ville, you ll eat as much Haitian food you want and drink Barbancourt and Prestige, I guess after you will all change your nationality to Haitian...Let me know when.
From: United States
Listen up guys.
If you can not get the black mushroom ( djon djon) I have found a substitude that may trick your palate and your brain into thinking this is the real thing.it is SOY SAUCE,
Try it you will love it.
But you have to convince yourself it is djon djon for this trck to work.
Also try pink grafefruit and ginger ale and tell me how you feel.
Do not give these secrets to that guy Generoso.I do not trust he sounds like a voodoo man
For the koko mordan I also know what natural product to use .If interested let me know !!!
Haitian 1804, I will not trust you my stomach
You are looking for some zombies to work on your family plantations .
From: Haiti
Oh No not this kind of Zombie....BTW you r already a Zombie,So don t be scared.
Written by: generoso, 15 Jan 2009 9:20 AM
From: United States, DR
haitian1804
Hey boss man, where were you? Dirt cookie indigestion got to you?
We miss you, we had nobody to kick around anymore.
We will organize a tour to Haiti, we also have at the same time to replenish al the Dominican
"working girls" that want to go make yankee dollars with the oldest profession in the world out of the Minustah soldiers there because they don't take payments in dirt cookies or voo doo powder from natives.
The restaurant invitation in Petion-Ville sounds good to as long as you promise not to spit on the food or put any voo doo powders in it. I will have to use you as food taster. tell me your preferred dates, please. And one more thing....are you paying the bill?
From: Haiti
Paying the bill is not the problem, But I have a problem to convice my friend to accept you in his high class restaurant,He said that you guys have no maneers, You d come in start talkind your loud spanish and get his clients run out of the restaurant.and ruin his high standard he gets from hardwork. He suggest me instead to take you guys to a "Chien Jambe", that d be preferable because you'd feel comfortable 'cause this is what you used to. I understand him because he has many officials from all over the world as clients...Michaelle Jean the governor of Canada which is Haitian, is invited to dinner tonight by the prime minister Duvivier. So sorry guys I can t take you to this restaurant, but anyways I ll take you all to a "Chien Jambe"but with conditions I m not going to eat with you. When are you guys coming? BTW don t bring the whole family I m not "Food for the poor"
Written by: generoso, 15 Jan 2009 8:09 PM
From: United States, DR
hateiam1804
Well I guess if we can't partake at your friend's restaurant then no deal.
And anyway we were bringing a tap-tap full of fresh and new Dominican working girls just for you.
What is your friend serving in his high class restaurant may I ask?
Let me guess:
entré: fresh pulled eyes from cite soleil woman resident
main course: 3 month old roasted newborn baby a la piment
dessert: But of course, Tri-color Haitian dirt cookies with mushrooms.
Written by: etiennc, 15 Jan 2009 9:16 PM
From: United States
Let me take the front seat.
I need a shot of Brugal and a shot on Barbancourt.
HIT IT GUYS !!
From: Haiti
Allright this guy is suck with his restaurant....allthough he s one of the best in Haiti, but too much high class BS even me sometimne I m tired of this and park my car aside along Juvenat and get me a plate of "Fritay( griot, bannan peze, and mucho Piklizzzzzzzzz) oh God I love my country. Genoroso is this your home menu you just post above......etiennec do you eat at Genoroso house? this explain why I can t deal with him...look what he eat. Sorry you won t find this in Haiti.
Written by: generoso, 15 Jan 2009 11:07 PM
From: United States, DR
etiennc
I am laughing so hard I can't even write this, I am crying. LOL. This is hilarious!
Written by: etiennc, 16 Jan 2009 9:27 AM
From: United States
Generoso what has happened to Haitian1804 _?
He is so nice and so reflective
Is it the calm before the storm?Is he trying to get us to eat a his restaurant so he can poison us?
I do not trust this guy !!!
Maybe
Oh Amazing grace ,we have defanged him we have removed his poison gland.
He is just so cute now like a baby in our hands
Maybe he is scared of psychopato Rubi
By the way where is wackocookoo Rubi
Maybe he is in some cookoo camp learning how to shoot
Written by: generoso, 16 Jan 2009 9:46 AM
From: United States, DR
etiennc
He has not changed he keeps being the idiot as always.
Could be he just realized that we are all human beings and have many things in common, and hate just breeds more hate. Instead even though it was a fantasy he imagined himself sitting in a table having good food and drinks with his new friends, drinking some excellent Barbancourt and just all laughing and having a good time.
That feeling is a lot better than the one you feel after you sent a package of hate words through cyberspace. Words can be very powerful, more than most people believe.
The way to understanding is just dialogue and communication, and keeping your heart open to hear the other person well, and really listen to what he is saying.
Sometimes angry words by angry persons just broadcast another message, like "I want to be loved" or "I want you to understand me", or "I am alone and don't have many friends" or "I need to talk to someone and tell them how angry I am".
From: Haiti
Genoroso now we understand you, we understand your angry words and what they broadcast poor old retired general genoroso... oh Rubi is a terrorist, a suicide bomber this Happen when the parents failed to give a good education to their kids and when they watch too much movies and play to much video games. but what is funny it s he ll wear a helmet when he'll come to blow himself. By the way i m not against Violence, Jesus was violent once. but it just that the peace after it it s just for a moment but the suffering it left is forever. So it always against me when I have to kick your ass to get you back to the right way I ,m like a father to you all now it s for your own benefit when I have to punish you.
Written by: generoso, 16 Jan 2009 4:04 PM
From: United States, DR
hateiam1804
Boss man,
Correction I am not retired, I am still in active duty. And I am not poor, I am very wealthy in things,
experience, wisdom and friends.
Why the infatuation with Rubi, anyway? You guys are always mentioning him.
You forgot to tell me about your sniper school, how did that go?
From: Haiti
Ah Rubi claim himself as a terrorist and promise Haiti a new 911 look alike. About my sniper school I m waitin for Rubi to see how good I am...I just can t wait.
Written by: etiennc, 16 Jan 2009 6:51 PM
From: United States
Hey General Roso I know you must be talking about me when you asked why this fixation with wakocoocoo Rubi.
I know I like Rubi ,when he is is agressive it is easier to control him and not hearing from him makes me very nervous.
I like this chit chat that you are having with HateIam 1804.
Since when we guys become that close __?
Am I missing a piece of the puzzle ?
Or has the milk of magnesia worked for hateIam1804 and he is no longer constipated and posting craps ?
Oh ! Amazing grace
From: Haiti
etiennc you must don't know how super is the strengh of a man I calm the lion and make him become a cat,I turn the General to a boyscout...Beleive me he just love himself the new him and he cant stop thanking me....so I keep telling him (" it s ok, you r welcome..............") lol
Written by: Trujillo, 17 Jan 2009 4:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic
...and they're all back in the DR!
Written by: generoso, 17 Jan 2009 5:26 PM
From: United States, DR
Rubi
Hurry it and get the flamethrower!
We have work to do!
Written by: antonioj, 17 Jan 2009 7:08 PM
From: Canada, home safe
I would love to to see these 2 Genuises have no hole bare discussion
Rubi for the east and Haitian1804 for the west, this should be quite an eye opener.
Please anyone second that motion.
From: Haiti
hey I warn you all only have the right to punish my cat so leave it alone, I put aside my rifle waitng for Ruvbi I don t need it now I turn the General into a boyscout but I didn t know if it was going to turn gay too meanwhile. what a waste,,,now I ll think twice before I do this to any of you even he deserve it but I feel bad for him....
From: Haiti
you must be kidding boy scout I have a Sniper Rifle L96 which Calibre is 7.62mm Weight: 6.5kg with an adjusatable lentgh 1124-1194mm Feed: 10-round box Effective range: 900m, harassing fire 1100 m. So what do you have to say now boy scout, you r so funny in your new uniform, you always claiming yourself as a weapon expert but the only thing you know how to do is set a fire with two little rock by kncking them together...stop dreaming my little cat, You r not a general,not a soldier you r a boy scout..........understand?
Written by: generoso, 19 Jan 2009 9:47 AM
From: United States, DR
The "Citadelle" was a fortress built by self proclaimed Haitian emperor and King Henri Christophe
to defend against the threatening French navies and armies at the time of Napoleon. It was built at a cost of more than 20,000 "free slaves" lives. It is located in the north near Cape Haitien.
The wishful thinking vision that Christophe had was that the French were going to try to assault the mighty fortress, built high on top of a hill.
Instead the French strategists and generals realized that it was senseless to try to assault an impregnable fortress with no military value, since they could occupy all the surrounding terrain without any loss of life or equipment. The disappointment and heart stroke later was such that King emperor Henri Christophe later in despair shot himself with a silver bullet.
The Haitian government later capitulated to the French demands and without putting up a fight paid the French and incredible 150 million Franc plus interests ransom as indemnity.
Written by: etiennc, 19 Jan 2009 9:53 AM
From: United States
Ok guys,let s take a beak until wenesday after Obama s inauguration.
Por favor please s il vous plait
Ok merci bien gracias thanks
Written by: Lautaro, 19 Jan 2009 10:15 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Written by: generoso, 19 Jan 2009 10:47 AM
From: United States, DR
etiennc
There is no peace offer to the wicked, ever! They must be uprooted or "deshuké".
Lautaro
Welcome to the front line, your presence is welcome.
Where are you Rubi? The TTM's miss your postings! (TTM means ton ton macoute)
Written by: Lautaro, 19 Jan 2009 11:13 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Written by: etiennc, 19 Jan 2009 11:29 AM
From: United States
Oh please General Roso ,let wakocoocoo Rubi rest in peace.
I can picture him in camouflage clothes,with painted face in a training camp between Santiago and Puerto Plata attending an intensive course in poison concoction using local leaves and lizards.
From: Haiti
oh yeah boy scout it is because there s no other people here that knows guns,If I post a half of the things I know it d raise me on the list of the 22 most wanted FBI list, a civilain should not know all this. you dissapoint me by saying the L96 was made for artic conditions, the L96 is been using right now by the british army in afghanistan and in Irak, and it s working perfectly here. i don t have to start arguing about weapon with you cause you just prove to me that all your big mouth was BS, you just abuse the fact that they don t know nothing about guns here, but you just hit a rock, so never i will accept any false information about weapons on DT from you and BTW the british army is changing the L96 to the new L115A1 rifle which can bring down an enemy target nearly three-quarters of a mile away with remarkable accuracy...I m thinking about getting me one.
From: Haiti
"Instead the French strategists and generals realized that it was senseless to try to assault an impregnable fortress with no military value, since they could occupy all the surrounding terrain without any loss of life or equipment. The disappointment and heart stroke later was such that King emperor Henri Christophe later in despair shot himself with a silver bullet." What the heck? where did you get this boyscout? The plans of the Citadelle was made by Dessalines,execute by christophe. In 1820, when he was suffering from partial paralysis, revolts broke out. Christophe committed suicide. In 1825 a French fleet forced Boyer to pay an exorbitant indemnity in return for French losses, 5 years after Christophe death, you don t respect yourself and your DR brothers and you don't respect the freedom of speech. so please boyscout return to the bush with your rope and stick, we don t have time to waste with stupidity,and trash comment...clear?
Written by: etiennc, 19 Jan 2009 5:08 PM
From: United States
Ok guys ,thanks for ignoring me.
Fortunately enough, the new world order will be televised and you will not and can not miss it .
Your lives will never, never be the same any more.
You can choose to be followers or you can choose to be leaders.
Followers ceate problems,leaders solve them-
General Roso, I would have expect ed better from you.Take a beak man until Wenesday.
Do not worry HateIam1804 will be always there.
Written by: etiennc, 19 Jan 2009 9:24 PM
From: United States
it is very sad that you will miss this beautiful day tomorrow.It is still early !
From: Haiti
I accept your defeat...but it was too easy, next time try harder or I ll ignore you, I hope you ll never post about guns anymore boy scout for now I ll listen to etiennc. hold fire...another victory like 2004 years ago is about to happen. Congratulation Obama,congratulation to humanity , this is a rebirth of freedom.
Written by: generoso, 19 Jan 2009 10:49 PM
From: United States, DR
hateIam1804 or is that 2004now?
2004 years ago! you said, that was almost before Christ! That's going back a long time, man.
The dirt cookies are starting to hallucinate in what is left of your sick brain.LOL.
Go concoct some more fantasies in the cardboard box you call home in Cite soleil. Dummy.
I have more respect for the Haitians who just want to work vs. the RD Gov officials who micro-traffick drugs in my Santiago barrio of Ensanche Caonabo (Los Platanitos) near the Cibao Stadium and Children's hosptial!
Fannin and staff are worthless and they show where they stand by their silence! Great leaders like Roosevelt, Ghandi, Kennedy, Dr. King and Reagan would have never got anything done .... if they were kiss azzes!
I with you except Regan!
Thank you Jesus!
The priest is right and has spoken the truth. This is the time not be aloof and in denial and face this
huge problem before we make a mountain out of a molehill.
President LF should be traveling to the border and getting opinions from residents there to try to implant urgent solutions before the situation gets out of hand.
"President LF should be traveling to the border and getting opinions from residents there to try to implant urgent solutions before the situation gets out of hand.'
Now there you go again, trying to be logical!
Anyhow, can anyone tell me any country that has successfully addressed immigration issues unilaterally? I've been researching this for a while, and I can't come up with any, not even the US! To address Migration issues, you need bilateral and regional efforts that takes into account local needs and humanitarian concerns. But above all, we need a normative approach that is shaped by Human Rights that protects the dignity of EVERY person. Random roundups and deportations is a failed strategy that hurts families, is borderline racist, and address the symptom not the route causes.
We need to help Haiti develop jobs on their side of the border, if we would like to see immigration to the DR decreased. All the money we spend on deportations, we can reinvest in the border zone.
I can't help being a wishful thinker!
BTW you have the "gipper" Reagan very present in your life still? Wasn't he wonderful?
You know your history well. I just hope that Mr Obama can inspire us in the ways that Ronald Reagan did at a time when American confidence was at the lowest point after the Carter administration snafus with the bad policies and the Iran hostage crisis and the aftermath of the Vietnam war doom and gloom and anti military sentiments.
I really think that Obama's inaugural speech has to be at the level of Roosevelt's “Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself” first inaugural address in 1932, Kennedy's 1961 speech "ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country" and Dr. Kings I have a dream speech of 1963.
The country and world really needs to be motivated to work hard and work together to deal with this impeding catastrophe. I think a great speech will do a lot to initiate that long hard process!
The day is still young.
Very true and well put, although I prefer Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech out of all the one's you mentioned.
And I sure hope Obama's aftermath is not like King's otherwise I will find a hole to hide in to shelter from the apocalypse that will follow.
Do Embassies in other countries interfere with immigration.
Are the Italian , French, Hungarian Ambassdors doing anything.
I agree that the current US Ambassador to the DR is more or less a figure head, but this isn't his /our job..is it ?
I found out that Chanucey was busy, sort of hanging out if you will!
Take a look:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0106091vail1.html
Our US big brothers really don't have anything to do with this, if they choose not do have anything to do with this.
If they choose to prod the Dominican government to take some action, they can do that too.
The US diplomatic delegation is only responsible for the welfare of American citizens and their "interests" abroad. That is a wide definition but it can encompass a lot.
It is all a matter of "if they choose to throw a hint at LF then that hint would be heard" and maybe it will resonate in higher circles.
It is really to the discretion of the US ambassador and the course of action that he chooses to take according to state department guidelines.
Lautaro
Try this game for a change. You have to move and tap the cursor to throw the shoe.
http://www.aksalser.com/game.htm
From the looks of the picture that's a BIG, pardon the pun, "ASS" shame to disguise.
I kow, I know I should not use the word PARDON, Lie-onel has copywrighted it!
I think that like any Embassy, they will get involved in things they know will benefit their citizens or country. I don't beleive any country wants to get involved with this domestic problem between neighbors more than they are already.
You certainly would know what it is to be in the minority, have been on the wrongside of almost every issue in your life.
I would not be surprised if you had rooted for the Japanese at Pearl Harbor, my little neo fascist friend!
Deport them at once... and please make sure that they can't cross the border again....
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Now that you mention them, have you heard about Alpha 66, josean?
Yes, but Chauncey has intimate knowledge!
However, he is person non grata because like Kennedy’s air support he was missing in action on the day of the Puerquito Bay invasion!
Olo mi amigo Fernandez, Bnnjour mon ami Preval !!
This story is juicer that the story about the million dollar house Preval bought for his mistress
From: United States
They also supplied the racist apartheid South African forces that murder innocent South Africans trying to liberate themselves!
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They use the palestinians territory to practice their war game without retribution, using overwhelming force on an unmatched enemy.
About the haitians should they be sent back ? if we are going to be serious about tackling the immigration issue they should go , otherwise we are just fooling ourselves.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
nobody ever accused the Israelis of being stupid just ask Bernie " gonif " Madoff
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How do you pronounce his last name.... made off or mad off , please help me GC I have a Ponzi scheme too. He will probably get 3 years, for that amount of money they can lock me up for 10 years
He was number 94 on the Forbes list of the world's richest people. He had fallen from number 44 on the Forbes 2007 rich list as his fortune declined from $12.8 billion to $9.2 billion in 2008"
Very difficult to live on 9 billion when you had double that, my heart goes to him please RIP
Also, .........ask Bernie " gonif " Madoff, I think "Gonif" means a thief in yeddish.
Please correct me if I am wrong. My Yedish is a little rusty.
From: United States
antonioj, that is a good piece of news. I found it interesting, yet sad and amusing at the same time. But how does that piece of information relate to "600 Haitians occupy a church"?
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I know I am off topic my apology, I just could not resist to slide this one in.
Are you saying he's Jewish, now I have a good idea where the money will end, and how it will be used for.
I think the Jesuit Coadjutor answered his own question.
600 ill-eagles bogarting a church is un-called for; Qu'est que cet? A Mariel incident on DR territory ala 1980 Havana? Wil they ask to be ferried out to Little Haiti on Biscayne Blvd, or Miramar-Floride?
This bleeding heart Jesuit has a two-fold mission in subverting DR laws: Transform DR in a haven for anyone wanting to flee poverty in Haiti; Sabotage the little progress has has been achieved during these last 47 years....Jesuites 'pa bon! Jesuits are spies working for Rome:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5730251808212460790
http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=jesuit
http://cabotia.org/jesuits.html
It's a shame Haiti can't take care of its own citizens; Are we to give exile to those that would demand it by force, strong- arm? A la Brigandina? A la cañona? Oh, oh? Ofrezcome!
I think the Jesuit Coadjutor answered his own question.
600 ill-eagles bogarting a church is un-called for; Qu'est que cet? A Mariel incident on DR territory ala 1980 Havana? Wil they ask to be ferried out to Little Haiti on Biscayne Blvd, or Miramar-Floride?
Como dijo el Gran Combo: No hay cama 'pa tanta gente!
I know a few Lamberts in Haiti.
Como sa va?
The foul language Haitians have been fumigated! LOL.
As far as Haiti and DR, let's do this: All Haitians in DR to go back to Haiti. All Domincans in Haiti to go back to DR. Then DR economy will collapse. The Haitians will go back to agriculture. The DR border guards will starve because there will be no bribes. DR government knows that DR's economy relies heavily on Haitians (and Dark skin Dominicans) to survive. The historic aspect of this is that the Haitians know that DR is an extension of Haiti (in fact, it's true). When they come to DR, they consider themselves in the eastern part of Haiti. With the current economic crisis, there willl be more Domincans risking their lives by boat in shark infested water to go to Porto-Rico. I believe there are more Domincans living illigally in most countries around the world than any other nation on this planet. What you wish for your in-laws may come back to haunt you.
It's evident that you refuse to learn from your mistakes, Smitty. Would you care to provide PROOFS for all the bs that you're spewing?
Please, give me a break. Reagan just like Bush was a mass murderer.
I am an activist. I've been fighting for the protection of all immigrants in the U.S. (including my fellow Dominicans and Mexicans). I have fought for immigrants rights all my life. Don't even go there. I traveled to DR when I was 22 years old just to witness the conditions of Haitian immigrants in the batey. I mobilized several international organizations to go to DR to investigate. I am still lobbying Congressman Charles Rangel and others to give a general amnesty to all illegal immigrants in the U.S. I am going to put a lot of pressure on the Obama administration also.
I have lobbied the U.S. government at the local and federal level to legalize all illegal immigrants in the U.S.
"Domincans living illigally in most countries around the world than any other nation on this planet. "
I couldn't care less if you were to be Jesus Christ himself, as long as you back up with documented proofs any bs that you might say about my countrymen, nothing more, nothing less.
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/rep....llegal-immigration-picture/67181/
He will not provide any proof. Just read the previous historically incorrect and distorted facts that
he stated about Reagan.
LostForever is just full of air.
From: United States
Arsenio is Lambert your last name?
I know a few Lamberts in Haiti.
No, Etienne; It's Lembert! My family is from Barahona; I'm a grand son of Jose Joaquin Lembert; His grandfather came from France to supervise a company and stayed. The rest is histoire.
That's because he is a honest man with compassion with the poor and tries to educate the people in the border region. He teaches them to organise themselves so that they can survive in this difficult world.
I wished we had more of these type of persons in the Dominican Republic and Haiti. Life would be a lot better than now, where we have a lot of corrupt politicians and a Roman Catholic church headed by a politician who apparently forgot what is wriiten in the Bible. One of his "great" statements is that law is abided and respected in the Dominican Republic in the treatment of Haitians in the Dominican Republic.
Regino you are a hero and possibly a saint.
I have not had the pleasure of meeting Regino in person, but you have. And I believe you.
You sound like a decent and honest person who would not lie to help himself or others. Bless.
Dominican immigrants in NY show the same trend worldwide (I am talking about data per capita. I am not talking in term of absolute number). Per capita, DR has more illegal Dominicans.
There are some wonderful Domincans inside and outside DR. Before my father died, he started to built a vacation house in DR. I never go back to DR to claim the house/land. I have the papers. I have been more interested in traveling to other countries in Asia, Europe and Africa. Maybe I'll hire a Dominican lawyer to handle this issue. Maybe I should complete the construction and donate the house to a Dominican/Haitian family.
Stop all the bull and baloney please. Just send me the papers and "titulo catastral" if you have it.
I will find a worthy cause to donate your house to, if it exists, and is still there not occupied by 100 squatters.
Later, I am going to dine at a Domincan restaurant near me in NY City.
I haven't yet given the signal to the Haitians to take over DR. Leonel had lot Haitian friends when he used to go to school in Manhattan. Leonel is a double agent. He is spying for the Haitians. LOL.
I mean bi-loyal of course, mal pensado!
Me, I am going to be part of the underground revolutionary forces and when you get to power we will overthrow your gov't by a coup d'etat and if that does not work, I will wait for your ride on the malecon on your black limo and together with my Mocano friends will take care of you.
This time around I will make sure your driver does not talk.
Ok enough joking. Listen lostforever, I can talk dum too. I don't think you are for real. Your post don't sound coherent. I agree with Lautaro, I think you are full of hot hair. I don't believe that your are an activist. fighting for the protection of all immigrants. If you mobilized several int'l Org.to go to DR to investigate is a bunch of crap. It is just wishful thinking and delusions of grandeur.
I know that I have posted controvesial remarks here, most of the time in response to some controversial and insulting posts in regard to the Haitians. The blame can go on both sides. You can't figure out when I am B.S.ing or not. I wanted to get the worst out of Dominicans when comes resentment toward Haitians. I have succeeded. You guys have provided me good materials for my upcoming book. In the heat of the moment, I saw the worst exchanges between Haitians and Domincans. I pushed your buttons to the extreme. Thank you for the participation of all.
By the way, your joke is a hit. I love it. LOL
Now I want to show the true and serious side of me. The Artist/Activist. The strong advocate for immigrant rights. I taught Bill Clinton to speak a few Haitian creole phrases and expressions when he traveled to Haiti. The pressure will be on Obama to legalize all illegal immigrants here. That's high on my agenda.
Dominican Republic is high on my agenda (the exploitation of Haitian workers is unacceptable). This is a human rights issue. I have enough contacts inside DR to continue my inquiry.
Anyway, I just hope I am not wasting my breath with you because you just don't seem real. I am sorry but you don't sound legitimate, You seem so far fetched. You come across as the international savior, a Jesus Christ wannabee. And I am particurly leery of people who anonimously start to pull rank like you do
I agree with you in one instance that there is so much money flowing in Haiti now. The NGOs are pocketing most of it.
You are a big blabber mouth and fantasize and make up all these stories.
You are probably another Haitian student living in the DR having a little "fun" with his other student buddies in the net.
But all your delusions of "grandeur" are good, maybe one day you will be working a real job instead
of sucking up your mom and dad's money making up up these lies in an otherwise serious discussion by responsible individuals.
Did you know I dedicated the entire one-hour of my TV show in New York to raise money for Haiti, Cuba, Dominican Republic and Texas after the four hurricanes that just passed.
I pushed your button to the extreme just to get your reaction. I wanted to get the input of angry Haitians and angry Domincans on the historic matters between the two republics. We both presented our arguments convincingly. Now I believe I am ready to complete my book.
From: Netherlands
my dear generoso, thank you for the trust and the compliments. It feels good to see there are people different than ArsenioALembertJr. His comment shows why we are right. His approach "If don't like the message shoot the messenger".
Regino you are a hero and possibly a saint.
MAXSTPIETER:
How little you know, meister?
I especially admire your tactic of going behind a person, and soliciting opponents like a snake in the grass. An enemy of mine, etc....
Danka Vel.
If you actually knew and realized who the Jesuites were you wouldn't vouche for them is such a pusilanimous manner. Ask around, google Jesuits, or yahoo, it! But, don't come out of the wood work with the cockamamie defence of a Jesuit Agent. "You're my hero, and possibly a saint"?
ST. Pieter Hans Kolvenbach the Jesuit of Amsterdam perhaps?
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm
But, not in heaven.
Keep dreaming, author, TV journalist, scam artist, how about joining forces to resell the Jaragua to a wealthy Haitian? We can make them a good deal. Little money down and 99 years to pay.
Please don't be so harsh on religious men. Be more charitable, I mean this priest whether you like his order or not is stuck in a border town in DR doing charity work and living very frugally.
He looks like a good man he has a compassionate face.
I mean you are from Barahona and I have heard good things from your family there, you know
how tough things are in Azua, Barahona, and the south in general. Because all the governments once in power seem to forget about people from the "poor south".
Well Dajabón is 10 times worse, the poverty there is scary and I have been to India and Africa both.
There are many good priest around in DR who do good work, some are true saints like father Camilo, archbishop of La Vega and others. There are also some real bad priests, pedophiles and
politicians, it takes all kinds. Don't be so quick on the draw without having all the facts first.
By unanimous decision you are the winner of "The Golden Shovel Award" for unrepentant and continuous BS, drowning in bull manure all of your opponents by far.
Producer and TV host in New York. BULL!
Name the program or at least the station and time of airing.
If you are a TV host for me answer this very simple question:
What is a prompter in TV lingo?
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
Arsenio
Please don't be so harsh on religious men. Be more charitable, I mean this priest whether you like his order or not is stuck in a border town in DR doing charity work and living very frugally.
He looks like a good man he has a compassionate face.
Generoso: Much respect to you my brother!
But, when it comes to the Jesuits I want to confide with you the following.
It's like playing cards; If they have the same suit: If it's a spade? It's a spade.
Check this out:
The Extreme Oath of the Jesuits:
"1, _ now, in the presence of Almighty God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed Michael the Archangel, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the holy Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven, and to you, my ghostly father, the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola in the Pontificate of Paul the Third, and continued
I do further declare that the doctrine of the churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots and others of the name Protestants or Liberals to be damnable and they themselves damned who will not forsake the same.
I do further declare, that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of his Holiness' agents in any place wherever I shall be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Ireland or America, or in any other Kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my uttermost to extirpate the heretical Protestants or Liberals' doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, regal or otherwise.
That I may go to any part of the world withersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, the burning sands of the desert of Africa, or the jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me.
I do further promise and declare, that notwithstanding I am dispensed with, to assume my religion heretical, for the propaganda of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they may entrust me and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstance whatever; but to execute all that shall be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me, by you, my ghostly father, or any of this sacred covenant.
All of which, I, _, do swear by the Blessed Trinity and blessed Sacraments, which I am now to receive, to perform and on my part to keep inviolable; and do call all the heavenly and glorious host of heaven to witness the blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist, and witness the same further with my name written and with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and sealed in the face of this holy covenant."
Source:
........................http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html
Guys just cut it out.
The only way that I can learn something from you is by being coherent.
You have bombarded me with too much useless infos and got me all confused
NO PUEDO SEGUIR ASI.
Generoso,hard to find your posts in the mist of all these fireworks or firecrackers.You can not stand out like you used to.
This man Kalambert ,monopolizes this discussions and writes too damn much.
This is not a book that we are writing for God s sake,
Make it short,concise , and simple. One paragragh,3 to 4 sentences is enough
Arsenio for probably a good reason doesn't like jesuit priests too much and he is writing another best seller regarding the Catholic church. Last time it was Opus Dei
this time is the Jesuits. LOL.
How are you doing?
Forget about LostForever a better name for him would be bulls.it forever.
He has lost all credibility and we are not answering any more of his totally bushu postings.
Hey boss man!
We heard you had trouble crossing the border as the military guard that usually let's
you in was transferred and you had to romance a totally new guard with all your sexual charms.
I hope he didn't give you a real hard time and you gave him a nice tip.
Anyway we thought you had a case of dirt cookie indigestion and was out for good.
I am so glad you are back. Hey in that sniper school that you went to did they teach you to become invisible too? What king of weapon did you train in? Chilena shotgun or air rifle with a big bottle? Maybe it was the multiple machete bowgun.
You must also become proficient in the use of that green voo doo powder that turns
people into zombies and carry a big bag of that in case of emergency.
Anyway boss welcome back, I miss having somebody as dumb as you are to kick around all the time. BTW Carmen the resident Dominican prostitute in PAP you liked so much told me confidentially that she will charge you only twice her
From: United States, Santa Fe, New Mexico
hatian1804
Hey boss man!
We heard you had trouble crossing the border as the military guard that usually let's
you in was transferred and you had to romance a totally new guard with all your sexual charms.
I hope he didn't give you a real hard time and you gave him a nice tip
"
Now this is funny ......lol
From: United States
I have a strange feeling that Lostfoerever is Haitian1804 under Prozac.
Guys just cut it out.
The only way that I can learn something from you is by being coherent.
You have bombarded me with too much useless infos and got me all confused
NO PUEDO SEGUIR ASI.
Generoso,hard to find your posts in the mist of all these fireworks or firecrackers.You can not stand out like you used to.
This man Kalambert ,monopolizes this discussions and writes too damn much.
This is not a book that we are writing for God s sake,
C'est Monsiuer Lembert pour vous, etienne, svp.
Just trying to school the jovial guys with some 'real' knowledge, not small talk. If you prefer the chi-chat, that's not where I'm at; Or, about. I'm about the reality of what you see is not all there is. The small print. But, simple folks are common, yet, the signs can only be seen by those that are aware of what's up. Fini.
Are you working on the sequel to "The Da Vinci code". I want to work in the script sil vous plait.
Non mon frere,
Au contraire; Je lui donne un peu de connaissance. Est qu' vous est un comedien?
Les Jesuites sont plus dangeroux, je les conait; Et vous, aussi?
Ouis je suis un comedien net.
Haitians have a history of making fun of or criticizing other Haitians trying to speak French .it is way to mask the own deficiency in French.
No wonder we have so many "diol su" ( mispronouncing a word) like you are.
Your English does suck and we do not citicize you nor make fun of you.Your grammar, your syntax will make a dog puke ,but we try the best we can to understand the content or your difficult message.
Let see you westle the French or the Spanish language-professor !
You already have enough problem with English
REVISIT YOUR LAST POST AND TELL ME WHAT IS THE HECK YOU ARE SAYING !
YUCK !!!!!
"The pot calling the kettle black"
Generoso. do not pay him no mind .Let me handle this fool for you.
God, please save me the misfortune of witnessing this crime again. (Pls. explain the crime)
And the rest I I can not readjust it ,I do not know what you are saying
Haitian 1804 See how diffucult it is to understand you.
your Englisl is clumsy.
My advice :Think in English , do not try to translate from Creole to English
Tell me en Creole and I will gladly translate it for you
Por favor, NO CREOLE !!! Let us not give incentives to creole speakers in this forum. We have enough of them in the DR. We don't need anymore of them here. "
De que diablo hablas guillermore? al parecer no entiendes lo que lees ,o eres poco inteligente para entender y analizar la conversacion , ademas te estas metiendo en una conversacion privada a la que nadie te ha invitado. Espero que tengas una percepcion mas grande y no seas tan retrogrado como tu colega Rubi.
Generoso,Lembert,Etiennc y yo tenemos una conversacion en la cual discutimos de otro idioma y en ocasiones entre nosotros practicamos frances y espanol y en eso no hay nada malo, pero desafortunadamente tu cabeza de pollo no vale, sale. Me pareces muy fresco y fregado si es verdad tu tienes la libertad de ser estupido e ignorante , y yo tambien tengo la libertad de expresarme en otro Idioma. es muy cansado seguir explicando principios basicos a los iletrados.
Everybody is just looking for an opportunity to shine even if by the same token they make the other person look bad. It is part of the surrounding beliefs that "I am superior or better than you are, look you can't spell or I don't know what you mean. Hey guys,
I am just having fun, this is supposed to be ENTERTAINMENT!
This forum does not only offer the opportumity for hate groups and the mentally challenged to spit their venom at each other,if equally offers the opportinty for all good man of good faith to try to reach out to each otehr and offer mutually satisfying solutions to certain problemes that concern all of us and are driving us apart and insane.
What is the best way to show to someone that I am not you enemy that I may desagree with you but I am no disagreeable and I am not crazy other than by trying to tackle the person's native language.
And futhermore we always try to give the equivalent in English or Spanish.
This is what we call bonding as human beings.
All animals have a way to bond either by grooming each other,by ejecting a smell or by mimicking each other sounds or behaviors.
Tell me if you agree.
Be nice no vain rethoric
Antonioj ,lets see things from Guillomone's vantage point.
"Save the wise men"
Everybody is as dangerous here as the Jesuits are to you.
Learn how to make love first.
Yes, I am only a comedian.
And trying your French is just a noble way to show your good intention.
I like your French and keep it up.
Haitians are not qualified to correct your French since they do not command the language themselves.
They would rather speak Creole.A scape route to avoid the grammatical and phonetic restraint of the French.
Compared to what is happening in the middle east , the Haitian Dominicans dilemma is just a lover's quarrel.
Aside from the sickos' posts ( they know who the are)
His garbage has infected Gullermone's best judgement by osmosis.
Rubi is not used to the deal with intelligent Haitians that are not cutting sugar cane on his family's plantations or loitering in parks or begging on the streets.
He can not dehumanize and brutalize us but try to demonize us at no avail
He resents the fact that we are vibrant,articulate,educated,professional.and as intellingent as he is if not more inteligent than he is .Being a creature of habit ,his true tempemarnet suggests his erratic behavior despite all the efforts to instill some character in him and curk his destructive tendencies.
He trumpets an all out war against Haitians, even against Haitians living in US and in Canada
i do not read Rabid I mean Rubi's posts anymore because I always feel dirty and need to take a shower.
From: United States
Generoso keep westling with your French and Creole while we are trying to westle with the Spanish and the French"
Amen to that !! RIP RUBI
Hey guys Rubi is my friend, so lay off of him. He is smarter than you give him credit for.
On the other hand I enjoy talking to you guys and learn from each other so it is a "symbiotic" relationship.
I also like jon jon rice but can not get the mushrooms here. You think they have them at the mercado modelo?
Soak in a warm water to get the black juice
Hey just betwen you and me Try soy sauce and you will no be able to tell the difference
Generoso I know you have a big mouth do not go around telling anybody.
Last night I tried the mamahuana it seemed to work RISING FROM THE DEAD Halleluya !!!!
I spoke with little pussy cat.she seems so quiet ha ha ha ha
Men brains were wired in a way to bond with one another.
They send message though yarning,pissing and body odor to attract one another and form communities,
However men became greedy, they invented weapons,formed stronger communities,and they began to exploit their weaker fellow men.
They invented all enterprises to justify their wickedness,race inferiority and what have you.
They demonized,dehumanaize and brutalized their weaker fellow human beings.They enslaved them
When we try to throw a few foreign words,phrases sentences at each other no matter how clumsy we are, this our natunai instincts trying to reach out and forms bonds.
In a time where food is scarce and we witness the fear in some of our posters translated in hate.When we meet breed like Rabid I mean Rubi who calls for the exterminination of a group of people frearing they may try to share his food supply,it is refreshing to see posters like Generoso trying to reach out and form bonds.
Please improve your technique and level of discussing, otherwise we might conclude that you're a pitiful racist and fascist..
The way you "discuss" is below level. so a good advice study and analyse things before you speak.. Again in Dutch "Je lult uit je nek.".
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Can any of you give me the recipe for some "mais moulin"? I have it from good authority that it's one of the best haitian dishes out there.
"
try a jon jon rice with crevette(shrimp) and side dish lambi(Conch) and a barbancourt on the rock Generoso that my favourite meal.
Lautaro, mais moulin con friole is great too
http://www.everythinghaitian.com/Mais%20Moulin.asp
If you can not get the black mushroom ( djon djon) I have found a substitude that may trick your palate and your brain into thinking this is the real thing.it is SOY SAUCE,
Try it you will love it.
But you have to convince yourself it is djon djon for this trck to work.
Also try pink grafefruit and ginger ale and tell me how you feel.
Do not give these secrets to that guy Generoso.I do not trust he sounds like a voodoo man
For the koko mordan I also know what natural product to use .If interested let me know !!!
Haitian 1804, I will not trust you my stomach
You are looking for some zombies to work on your family plantations .
Hey boss man, where were you? Dirt cookie indigestion got to you?
We miss you, we had nobody to kick around anymore.
We will organize a tour to Haiti, we also have at the same time to replenish al the Dominican
"working girls" that want to go make yankee dollars with the oldest profession in the world out of the Minustah soldiers there because they don't take payments in dirt cookies or voo doo powder from natives.
The restaurant invitation in Petion-Ville sounds good to as long as you promise not to spit on the food or put any voo doo powders in it. I will have to use you as food taster. tell me your preferred dates, please. And one more thing....are you paying the bill?
Well I guess if we can't partake at your friend's restaurant then no deal.
And anyway we were bringing a tap-tap full of fresh and new Dominican working girls just for you.
What is your friend serving in his high class restaurant may I ask?
Let me guess:
entré: fresh pulled eyes from cite soleil woman resident
main course: 3 month old roasted newborn baby a la piment
dessert: But of course, Tri-color Haitian dirt cookies with mushrooms.
I need a shot of Brugal and a shot on Barbancourt.
HIT IT GUYS !!
I am laughing so hard I can't even write this, I am crying. LOL. This is hilarious!
He is so nice and so reflective
Is it the calm before the storm?Is he trying to get us to eat a his restaurant so he can poison us?
I do not trust this guy !!!
Maybe
Oh Amazing grace ,we have defanged him we have removed his poison gland.
He is just so cute now like a baby in our hands
Maybe he is scared of psychopato Rubi
By the way where is wackocookoo Rubi
Maybe he is in some cookoo camp learning how to shoot
He has not changed he keeps being the idiot as always.
Could be he just realized that we are all human beings and have many things in common, and hate just breeds more hate. Instead even though it was a fantasy he imagined himself sitting in a table having good food and drinks with his new friends, drinking some excellent Barbancourt and just all laughing and having a good time.
That feeling is a lot better than the one you feel after you sent a package of hate words through cyberspace. Words can be very powerful, more than most people believe.
The way to understanding is just dialogue and communication, and keeping your heart open to hear the other person well, and really listen to what he is saying.
Sometimes angry words by angry persons just broadcast another message, like "I want to be loved" or "I want you to understand me", or "I am alone and don't have many friends" or "I need to talk to someone and tell them how angry I am".
Boss man,
Correction I am not retired, I am still in active duty. And I am not poor, I am very wealthy in things,
experience, wisdom and friends.
Why the infatuation with Rubi, anyway? You guys are always mentioning him.
You forgot to tell me about your sniper school, how did that go?
I know I like Rubi ,when he is is agressive it is easier to control him and not hearing from him makes me very nervous.
I like this chit chat that you are having with HateIam 1804.
Since when we guys become that close __?
Am I missing a piece of the puzzle ?
Or has the milk of magnesia worked for hateIam1804 and he is no longer constipated and posting craps ?
Oh ! Amazing grace
Hurry it and get the flamethrower!
We have work to do!
Rubi for the east and Haitian1804 for the west, this should be quite an eye opener.
Please anyone second that motion.
to defend against the threatening French navies and armies at the time of Napoleon. It was built at a cost of more than 20,000 "free slaves" lives. It is located in the north near Cape Haitien.
The wishful thinking vision that Christophe had was that the French were going to try to assault the mighty fortress, built high on top of a hill.
Instead the French strategists and generals realized that it was senseless to try to assault an impregnable fortress with no military value, since they could occupy all the surrounding terrain without any loss of life or equipment. The disappointment and heart stroke later was such that King emperor Henri Christophe later in despair shot himself with a silver bullet.
The Haitian government later capitulated to the French demands and without putting up a fight paid the French and incredible 150 million Franc plus interests ransom as indemnity.
Por favor please s il vous plait
Ok merci bien gracias thanks
http://www.catholicmedia.net/halo/eng/altagrac.htm
There is no peace offer to the wicked, ever! They must be uprooted or "deshuké".
Lautaro
Welcome to the front line, your presence is welcome.
Where are you Rubi? The TTM's miss your postings! (TTM means ton ton macoute)
If you see this thread, general, you might say that I have been giving the TTM a run for his money, or as GC would say, beating him like an iraqi prisoner. LOL
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/....inican-construction-industry-jobs
I can picture him in camouflage clothes,with painted face in a training camp between Santiago and Puerto Plata attending an intensive course in poison concoction using local leaves and lizards.
Fortunately enough, the new world order will be televised and you will not and can not miss it .
Your lives will never, never be the same any more.
You can choose to be followers or you can choose to be leaders.
Followers ceate problems,leaders solve them-
General Roso, I would have expect ed better from you.Take a beak man until Wenesday.
Do not worry HateIam1804 will be always there.
2004 years ago! you said, that was almost before Christ! That's going back a long time, man.
The dirt cookies are starting to hallucinate in what is left of your sick brain.LOL.
Go concoct some more fantasies in the cardboard box you call home in Cite soleil. Dummy.