A seed of the chaos. Torre Plata construction, Los Cacicazgos.
Santo Domingo. - With the motto “one minute against chaos” the neighborhood boards from several sectors staged a protest in front of the City Council building to demand that mayor Roberto Salcedo halt the issuing if irregular permits to build high-rises in low density zones.
In cars and buses the demonstrators from Los Cacicazgos, Bella Vista, Caonabo, Paseo Las Palmas, 30 de Mayo and Renaciemiento halted traffic around the Centro de los Heroes (Feria) for several minutes, to protest the alleged approval of construction projects which allegedly violate its own zoning, which in their view leads to a disorganized population increase and chaos.
Neighborhood boards spokeswoman Miriam Paulino affirmed that “the chaos which the issuing of ground use permits brings to our sectors, without considering street and sidewalk widths, the supply of basic services, of waste water or sewage drainage, infrastructure and the final disposition of solid waste, shows that it’s not a protest against progress, but against chaos.”
The protesters honked their car horns as the ensuing din prompted curious City Hall workers to leave their desks, although no official received the demonstrators.
The residents affected by the population density say they expect City Hall to assume its responsibility and warned they’ll continue protests in the next few days. “We hope this is strong enough to motivate them to review their own decisions. We’re asking the city council to assume its responsibility,” Paulino said.
Written by: Juango, 28 Oct 2009 10:26 AM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Forget the protest folks .... it take money, money talks !!!. All you have to do, is pay more to the right POLITICO, that is more than what they have already recieved from the Builder/Developer of said building. That is what is known as "un negocio redondo".!!! Remember, "todo es posible en el pais de las maravillas, donde lo imposible, es posible". They should know that already, if this lonely GRINGO does, and he doesn't even live there (any longer).
Written by: xwill7, 28 Oct 2009 10:50 AM
From: United States, Chicago
when the main sewer line bursts.... watch out for the turds floating near you
Written by: curlando, 28 Oct 2009 11:36 AM
From: United States
They need to protest for new system of streets and highways for Santo Domingo. I don't travel to Santo Domingo because I can't drive around the city. You always struck in traffic except for the weekends.
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 12:07 PM
From: United States
The time for a moratorium has come to Santo Calcutta!
We need a national sustainable development plan for the ENTIRE country and not he lopsided “all eggs in one basket” i.e. La Capital model which is counterproductive and is reaching the point of diminishing returns.
The capital needs a respite to get organized, eliminate the slums and have the infrastructure catch up as well as health and safety services.
To continue this chaotic anarchistic development is backward, short sided and dangerous!
Written by: xwill7, 28 Oct 2009 12:10 PM
From: United States, Chicago
josean,
how can you eliminate the slum when there are not enough jobs, and most are low paying???
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 12:45 PM
From: United States
x,
You create cooperatives in the countryside and smaller cities; offer no interest or low interest loans for people to begin small sustainable business development. You do rural infrastructure projects, roads, schools, affordable housing, flood control programs, and rural electrification projects using alternative energies, wind solar etcetera.
You modernize agriculture make benefit of one of the best climates for agricultural production in the Caribbean if not the world!
Essential you invest in the people and in projects that provide the most social benefit to the majority of people.
Not by investing or better parking, $ 750,000,000million dollars in a METRO to nowhere, which the overwhelming majority of Dominicans will never use, not even the overwhelming majority of those who live in La Capital with and annual subsidy of $25,000,000 million dollars.
From: United States
Josean, you are such a malcontent. always trying to inject logic and reason. let the folks like Mr Dom and Eriliza celebrate the progress in peace. when the crap hits the fan, they will be reading about it from places like Harford. folks on the ground in the capital will be taking the hits
Written by: xwill7, 28 Oct 2009 2:23 PM
From: United States, Chicago
josean,
you have to like living in rural areas in order for your plan to work. The campos are quiet at night, and many like to party. Don't think that works in DR
Written by: MannyTav, 28 Oct 2009 2:54 PM
From: United States
DR has been slowly winding its way downhill for decades. it's a total lack of planning and foresight. There's no real will to do the right thing by the country; it seems it's always how do I score for myself and my friends? Everyone's out for themselves and no one is overseeing the development of the country as a whole. That's called a lack of leadership and it's prevelant in all the politcial parties. I give LF credit for attention to the infrastructure (outside of the Metro, that was a waste any which way you look at it) but it's not enough to dedicate one dime when you mismanage a quarter and education, the bedrock of all progress in any nation, goes woefully underfunded and mismanaged.
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 3:15 PM
From: United States
dreadlocks,
My Brother WELCOME BACK!
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 3:18 PM
From: United States
xwill7,
Maybe you’re just going to the wrong Campos!
You are stereotyping us peasants, believe this not you fathers campo any more!
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 3:24 PM
From: United States
Josean's offical motto!
"It’s not a protest against progress, but against chaos.”
Thank you sister Miriam Paulino!
Written by: xwill7, 28 Oct 2009 3:32 PM
From: United States, Chicago
josean,
there are many campos that have un-paved roads. That road dust gets in the house and car. Many hate that
From: Dominican Republic
It is sad to see that due to the lack of affordable Architects within the "Low" and "Middle" class Dominican Rep. is heading to an urban horror. I remember that about six months ago I wrote a letter to Leonel Fernandez offering myself to come up with low cost architects for poor neighborhood. I don't know I saw myself like one of those pre-med graduates that go far deep in to a village in Africa to serve the community.
I don't think that letter ever got to Leonel, and if it did, I never got a respond.
It is sad to see how people put their house project in the hands of a "Maestro", and to see how many people doesn't even contemplate talking to an architect before having their house built. Why? I guess, because in Dom. Rep. only a few do what they do for passion, the rest? For cash-ion.
Att: El Architecto
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 4:29 PM
From: United States
"there are many campos that have un-paved roads'
So are many roads in Santo Calcutta when the 1/8 of an inch of "concrete" is wash out in the first rainstorm after the road was "fixed" for the 10th time?
¡Pero, Eh Pa’Lante Que Vamos!
Written by: xwill7, 28 Oct 2009 4:55 PM
From: United States, Chicago
josean,
la mujere del campo no la dejan salir... tienes que ir a la casa a hablar con el papa... en SD y Santiago tu va y te la lleva directo a la cabana despues de alguna cervesitas...lol
the women can also find more viejo pansu from USA in SD and Santiago
my point of all of this is that many people live in the city because everything is close and easy to get... lol But I love el campo
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 5:05 PM
From: United States
x,
I have actually discussed this topic with many of the “economic exiles” in Santo Calcutta from the campos. The great majority have told me that if the could make decent living back "home" they would move back in a minute. I have also discussed this with the persons who stay in the campo and they say as long as they can eat they are not moving.
So if we incentive both types of these individual they will return or remain; this is not rocket science or even building a useless METRO, this is quite accomplishable.
Written by: xwill7, 28 Oct 2009 5:12 PM
From: United States, Chicago
j,
you could add me to that list... if i could make the same $$$ in DR as I do in USA I would be on the next flight out there. But alot of people en el cibao make good $$$ from farming and selling farm animals.
Also, the bancas are every where in the campos... everyone plays
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 5:19 PM
From: United States
if i could make the same $$$ in DR as I do in USA I would be on the next flight out there. But alot of people en el cibao make good $$$ from farming and selling farm animals.
I rest my case!
Written by: xwill7, 28 Oct 2009 5:45 PM
From: United States, Chicago
I don't know about the campos in the south but en el cibao the land is good
Written by: josean, 28 Oct 2009 5:56 PM
From: United States
All the land in DR has great, great, great potential, depending on the products you want to produce, from crops to animal products!
Written by: riosm, 28 Oct 2009 8:45 PM
From: United States
Don't talk....Just do it...
AreYou an Attorney now ?
Calcutta Domingo ?
Your sounding like a real Capitalist in a DEMO disguise, A real Glenn Beck fan no dought, no future with Oh'blama huh !
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
I am rather surprised at the reaction here to the protest from residents in predominantly middle class areas of the capital
From: United States
thanks, Josean. it is good to be back. and Ricardolito, i hope you are on the way to a speedy recovery
Written by: josean, 29 Oct 2009 5:26 PM
From: United States
The may take away Banistan property in La Zona Colonial when the invalidate that Trujillo era deed he has!
"El Estado pierde por desorden en el catastro local"
“Es increíble la cantidad de viviendas en la Zona Colonial y en Gazcue que son del ayuntamiento y éste no lo sabe”, agregó. En tanto que el director general del Catastro, Bolivar Marte, dijo que existe un desorden en los inventarios físicos y jurídicos, pero que la Jurisdicción Inmobiliaria está trabajando para organizarlo. Agregó que debido a los trabajos de actualización se han podido comprobar algunos retrasos en la entrega de títulos.
Expresó que en el país existe un registro de 72,000 kilómetros cuadrados de títulos, lo que no se corresponde con los 48,700 kilómetros cuadrados que tiene República Dominicana.
http://www.listin.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=119642
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We need a national sustainable development plan for the ENTIRE country and not he lopsided “all eggs in one basket” i.e. La Capital model which is counterproductive and is reaching the point of diminishing returns.
The capital needs a respite to get organized, eliminate the slums and have the infrastructure catch up as well as health and safety services.
To continue this chaotic anarchistic development is backward, short sided and dangerous!
how can you eliminate the slum when there are not enough jobs, and most are low paying???
You create cooperatives in the countryside and smaller cities; offer no interest or low interest loans for people to begin small sustainable business development. You do rural infrastructure projects, roads, schools, affordable housing, flood control programs, and rural electrification projects using alternative energies, wind solar etcetera.
You modernize agriculture make benefit of one of the best climates for agricultural production in the Caribbean if not the world!
Essential you invest in the people and in projects that provide the most social benefit to the majority of people.
Not by investing or better parking, $ 750,000,000million dollars in a METRO to nowhere, which the overwhelming majority of Dominicans will never use, not even the overwhelming majority of those who live in La Capital with and annual subsidy of $25,000,000 million dollars.
you have to like living in rural areas in order for your plan to work. The campos are quiet at night, and many like to party. Don't think that works in DR
My Brother WELCOME BACK!
Maybe you’re just going to the wrong Campos!
You are stereotyping us peasants, believe this not you fathers campo any more!
"It’s not a protest against progress, but against chaos.”
Thank you sister Miriam Paulino!
there are many campos that have un-paved roads. That road dust gets in the house and car. Many hate that
I don't think that letter ever got to Leonel, and if it did, I never got a respond.
It is sad to see how people put their house project in the hands of a "Maestro", and to see how many people doesn't even contemplate talking to an architect before having their house built. Why? I guess, because in Dom. Rep. only a few do what they do for passion, the rest? For cash-ion.
Att: El Architecto
So are many roads in Santo Calcutta when the 1/8 of an inch of "concrete" is wash out in the first rainstorm after the road was "fixed" for the 10th time?
¡Pero, Eh Pa’Lante Que Vamos!
la mujere del campo no la dejan salir... tienes que ir a la casa a hablar con el papa... en SD y Santiago tu va y te la lleva directo a la cabana despues de alguna cervesitas...lol
the women can also find more viejo pansu from USA in SD and Santiago
my point of all of this is that many people live in the city because everything is close and easy to get... lol But I love el campo
I have actually discussed this topic with many of the “economic exiles” in Santo Calcutta from the campos. The great majority have told me that if the could make decent living back "home" they would move back in a minute. I have also discussed this with the persons who stay in the campo and they say as long as they can eat they are not moving.
So if we incentive both types of these individual they will return or remain; this is not rocket science or even building a useless METRO, this is quite accomplishable.
you could add me to that list... if i could make the same $$$ in DR as I do in USA I would be on the next flight out there. But alot of people en el cibao make good $$$ from farming and selling farm animals.
Also, the bancas are every where in the campos... everyone plays
I rest my case!
AreYou an Attorney now ?
Calcutta Domingo ?
Your sounding like a real Capitalist in a DEMO disguise, A real Glenn Beck fan no dought, no future with Oh'blama huh !
"El Estado pierde por desorden en el catastro local"
“Es increíble la cantidad de viviendas en la Zona Colonial y en Gazcue que son del ayuntamiento y éste no lo sabe”, agregó. En tanto que el director general del Catastro, Bolivar Marte, dijo que existe un desorden en los inventarios físicos y jurídicos, pero que la Jurisdicción Inmobiliaria está trabajando para organizarlo. Agregó que debido a los trabajos de actualización se han podido comprobar algunos retrasos en la entrega de títulos.
Expresó que en el país existe un registro de 72,000 kilómetros cuadrados de títulos, lo que no se corresponde con los 48,700 kilómetros cuadrados que tiene República Dominicana.
http://www.listin.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=119642