Santo Domingo.– In a letter to the Apostolic Nuncio, Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski,
several Dominican legislators, led by Senator Charlie Mariotti and
Senator Prim Pujals Nolasco, have asked the Catholic Church's
authorities in the country to speak out on the smear campaign being
directed towards the Dominican Republic by Father Christopher Hartley.
The senators
said that the ideologists of this steadfast campaign are tainting the
country's image abroad and have sought to cast doubts on the honesty,
business ethics and staff of the main entities and public and private
persons involved in the economic, political and social development
activities of the Dominican Republic.
They also said that
unrestrained and unruly statements by members of the Church, as is the
case of Father Hartley's, could bring about catastrophic results for
the Dominican economy and its international relations.
"This could in
turn precipitate massive unemployment of Dominicans and immigrants
alike, since they would have nowhere else to go and no other choice but
to cross the border and work in the Dominican Republic's fields," they
added.
Written by: zooma, 3 Oct 2009 8:02 AM
From: United States
This article is part of the soft underbelly of Dominican culture of topics not to be talked about that expose the dark side of Dominican life, that the messenger is the one to be put down for breaking the code of silence. Father Hartley in his own way has broken from the code of silence to expose the conditions of the workers in the cane fields. His actions have brought the wrath of individuals whose interest is motivated to maintain the status quo rather than address the problems of the workers. Because the church and government have a symbiotic relationship Father Hartley was forced by the church hierarchy to depart the country.
From: Canada
Let me guess. These 2 senators own sugarcane mills.
Next they'll declare Paul Newman to be an enemy of the state.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Zooma ,,in an earlier article some 3 or 4 moths ago , I believed exactly what you have written, but I was informed that this is not the case and that this priest is a real mischief maker ,,,but I hope generoso , whom I think made the correction , and others will set the record straight again
Written by: Letmic, 3 Oct 2009 8:39 AM
From: Australia, Hispanola
This priest may be biased and his message therefore possibly tainted however read the newspapers and forums on the Corruption being uncovered across many institutions in the Dom Rep. There is MASSIVE corruption in the Dom Rep and the more people that know the situation both here in the DR and in the Global community then perhaps these parasites (government employees and elected scumbag officials) will be caught and publicly humiliated. Why is it that the Dom Rep was very close to the bottom of the list in the latest Global Rankings of Countries on Corruption. Because Dominicans have it in their nature to be easily corrupted once they get into any position of power. So this Priest is telling everyone what the Dominicans in Power are Corrupt!! So get over it and hope that he tells the whole world and makes these stinking Grubs in power here squirm and feel uncomfortable. Bring back public floggings for corrupt officials!!!!!!!!!!!!
Written by: juanb, 3 Oct 2009 8:52 AM
From: Dominican Republic
The senators said that the ideologists of this steadfast campaign are tainting the country's image abroad and have sought to cast doubts on the honesty, business ethics and staff of the main entities and public and private persons involved in the economic, political and social development activities of the Dominican Republic.
NO misstatement there.
Written by: zooma, 3 Oct 2009 9:55 AM
From: United States
One has to ask the question. What is worse, the manner right or wrong, of how Father Hartley delivers his message, mischieviously, ............or how the country denies the poor working conditions of the cane workers rather than address it? Which one is the greater evil?
Written by: BASTA, 3 Oct 2009 10:18 AM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
ooooooH the truth hurts #2 Piggies in the world
65% Bi – just look at our President - 82% crooks – Ghetto mentality – no class – no education – adults with children’s – no honor no brains – no whites and on and on
From: United States
Get a grip. You moron politicians do far more damage to the Dominican Republics image than this one person.
You are transparently corrupt, nepotism is rampant, you just gave the beaches to the rich, everything in your country involves a bribe.
You are your worst enemy.
Written by: yumnuk3, 3 Oct 2009 10:47 AM
From: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨
Father Christopher Hartley has never helped a poor Dominican, and that makes Hartley a disgraceful phony.
Written by: bearcat, 3 Oct 2009 11:43 AM
From: Dominican Republic
We all know politican are crooks only serving themselves and that conditions are so bad on sugar plantation that Dominican wil not do that work. Both these things are wrong and questioning the motivation of the messenger are out of bounds and mean simply more of the same.
If you believe that the father approach was wrong, then let us see your solution to the problem.
Written by: yumnuk3, 3 Oct 2009 12:31 PM
From: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨
Gouletcolonial3, the ex ambassador of Haiti in DR said that Father Hartley's film is just a bunch of lies that can only bring more differences to the DR/Haiti relation.
Written by: josean, 3 Oct 2009 2:54 PM
From: United States
On corrupt self-serving politicians telling the truth versus Father Hartley's integrity, Father Hartley wins hands down.
Have you ever seen the poverty, unemployment, illiteracy, lack of health care and almost no schools in Monte Plata, the province where the honorable Senator Charlie Mariotti serves, well only himself, but you know what I mean!
This senator should be the last person talking about imaginary smear campaigns. His daily actions or better yet inaction for the taxpayers of Monte Plata is what smears the republic. He should wear a mask of shame when he goes out in public, if he had any!
Father Hartley should get the Nobel Prize for speaking truth to power!!
Written by: josean, 3 Oct 2009 3:13 PM
From: United States
Since the "honorable" Senator Prim Pujals Nolasco likes to write letters demanding the suppression of public discussion and debate, maybe he can share with us his answer to this letter from on of his constituents in Samana Province!
Yes, Senator "PP", or is that what you did when you got the letter, show us the money!
Read on:
http://terraccion.blogspot.com/20....ta-al-dr-prim-pujals-nolasco.htmlWritten by: josean, 3 Oct 2009 3:18 PM
From: United States
And hear is the rest of the story:
"In the same vein, the President of the Dominican Federation of Sugar Growers (FEDOCA), Bernardo Diaz, also publicly appealed to the Apostolic Nuncio, Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski, to reprimand Hartley and inform the Vatican "about the damage his behavior is causing on Dominicans." He noted that the priest's allegations are intended to bring sanctions that will affect the industry's opportunities in that market, where 30,000 tons of sugar are currently placed. (
http://www.ereleases.com/pr/2009-UNAZUCAR-3.pdf) Contact: Cesar Heredia Union Nacional de Azucareros (UNAZUCAR) Phone: 1 (809) 567-7999 e-mail: unazucar@gmail.com
This release was issued through eReleases'
http://www.breitbart.com/article.....&show_article=1&catnum=3#Keep the heat on the bastards Father Hartley, they are starting to sweat!
Written by: josean, 3 Oct 2009 3:39 PM
From: United States
The third time might be a charm!
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
I am surprised, but quite delighted, that this subject has raised it´s head again because things have become quiet sine the film about Father Hartley , the Price of Sugar, was released and was denounced by the Vicini family in particular who tried to stop public showings of the film. Later,there were various legal threats made against the films producer and Father Hartley.
You would have to be quite blind not to see the atrocious working conditions and living conditions of the sugar workers of the sugar workers and their families. This is especially so if you live or travel any where between , say , San Pedro and Higuey .I do not know if all the accusations made in the film are correct but this is the closest thing to slavery I have seen and I regard the conditions as morally corrupt even if not illegal.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
I do not know what tactics Father Hartley uses to make people aware and ashamed of the conditions here but they are obviously getting up some people´s noses.
One of the problems, and again I have mentioned this before, is that it often appears that the new rich Dominicans care little for their fellow humans , and in this case less because so many are from Haiti and it needs a person from outside to point out the evil that is taking place.
If the Father is trying to persuade European buyers and users not to import dominican sugar, I can not see how that is not within his rights just as many people protest against the sweat houses in Asia, but I can see how it would aggravate the Senators here .
To assist me with this,maybe some could inform me if the Dominican government receives any royalties or taxes from sugar production or sugar exports or do they merely get their cut from tax on sugar company profits , which I imagine would be manipulated lower.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
juanb that is one of the most tongue in cheek postings I have read for many months ,,thanks
Written by: josean, 3 Oct 2009 7:17 PM
From: United States
Ricky LIE-onel Fernandez has had three bites at the apple of power, ever wonder why the great modern humanitarian statesman hasn't seriously addressed this issue.
Or is he modern and humanitarian outside the country for show only, you know;
¡Predicando la moral en Calzoncillos!
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
It is not the fault of one man ,,it is the fault of society ..it is the fault of all Dominicans who look the other way
Written by: josean, 3 Oct 2009 9:48 PM
From: United States
Your so benevolent towards your daddy!
From: United States
That's because those are Haitians, moron. His activism is to improve living and working conditions of Haitian immigrants in bateyes.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Catholic Last Rites
A bus on a busy street struck a Catholic man.
He was lying near death on the sidewalk as a crowd gathered.
"A priest. Somebody get me a priest!" the man gasped.
Long seconds dragged on but no one stepped out of the crowd.
A policeman checked the crowd and finally yelled, "A PRIEST, PLEASE! Isn't there a priest in this crowd to give this man his last rites?"
Finally, out of the crowd stepped a little old Jewish man in his 80s.
"Mr. Policeman," said the man, "I'm not a priest. I'm not even a Christian. But for 50 years now, I'm living behind the Catholic Church on Second Avenue , and every night I'm overhearing their services. I can recall a lot of it, and maybe I can be of some comfort to this poor man."
The policeman agreed, and cleared the crowd so the man could get through to where the injured man lay.
The old Jewish man knelt down, leaned over the man and said in a solemn voice Under the B 7 Under the N 41 Under the G 66
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This article is part of the soft underbelly of Dominican culture of topics not to be talked about that expose the dark side of Dominican life, that the messenger is the one to be put down for breaking the code of silence. Father Hartley in his own way has broken from the code of silence to expose the conditions of the workers in the cane fields. His actions have brought the wrath of individuals whose interest is motivated to maintain the status quo rather than address the problems of the workers. Because the church and government have a symbiotic relationship Father Hartley was forced by the church hierarchy to depart the country.
Next they'll declare Paul Newman to be an enemy of the state.
NO misstatement there.
One has to ask the question. What is worse, the manner right or wrong, of how Father Hartley delivers his message, mischieviously, ............or how the country denies the poor working conditions of the cane workers rather than address it? Which one is the greater evil?
65% Bi – just look at our President - 82% crooks – Ghetto mentality – no class – no education – adults with children’s – no honor no brains – no whites and on and on
Get a grip. You moron politicians do far more damage to the Dominican Republics image than this one person.
You are transparently corrupt, nepotism is rampant, you just gave the beaches to the rich, everything in your country involves a bribe.
You are your worst enemy.
If you believe that the father approach was wrong, then let us see your solution to the problem.
Gouletcolonial3, the ex ambassador of Haiti in DR said that Father Hartley's film is just a bunch of lies that can only bring more differences to the DR/Haiti relation.
Have you ever seen the poverty, unemployment, illiteracy, lack of health care and almost no schools in Monte Plata, the province where the honorable Senator Charlie Mariotti serves, well only himself, but you know what I mean!
This senator should be the last person talking about imaginary smear campaigns. His daily actions or better yet inaction for the taxpayers of Monte Plata is what smears the republic. He should wear a mask of shame when he goes out in public, if he had any!
Father Hartley should get the Nobel Prize for speaking truth to power!!
Yes, Senator "PP", or is that what you did when you got the letter, show us the money!
Read on:
http://terraccion.blogspot.com/20....ta-al-dr-prim-pujals-nolasco.html
"In the same vein, the President of the Dominican Federation of Sugar Growers (FEDOCA), Bernardo Diaz, also publicly appealed to the Apostolic Nuncio, Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski, to reprimand Hartley and inform the Vatican "about the damage his behavior is causing on Dominicans." He noted that the priest's allegations are intended to bring sanctions that will affect the industry's opportunities in that market, where 30,000 tons of sugar are currently placed. (http://www.ereleases.com/pr/2009-UNAZUCAR-3.pdf) Contact: Cesar Heredia Union Nacional de Azucareros (UNAZUCAR) Phone: 1 (809) 567-7999 e-mail: unazucar@gmail.com
This release was issued through eReleases'
http://www.breitbart.com/article.....&show_article=1&catnum=3#
Keep the heat on the bastards Father Hartley, they are starting to sweat!
You would have to be quite blind not to see the atrocious working conditions and living conditions of the sugar workers of the sugar workers and their families. This is especially so if you live or travel any where between , say , San Pedro and Higuey .I do not know if all the accusations made in the film are correct but this is the closest thing to slavery I have seen and I regard the conditions as morally corrupt even if not illegal.
One of the problems, and again I have mentioned this before, is that it often appears that the new rich Dominicans care little for their fellow humans , and in this case less because so many are from Haiti and it needs a person from outside to point out the evil that is taking place.
If the Father is trying to persuade European buyers and users not to import dominican sugar, I can not see how that is not within his rights just as many people protest against the sweat houses in Asia, but I can see how it would aggravate the Senators here .
To assist me with this,maybe some could inform me if the Dominican government receives any royalties or taxes from sugar production or sugar exports or do they merely get their cut from tax on sugar company profits , which I imagine would be manipulated lower.
Or is he modern and humanitarian outside the country for show only, you know;
¡Predicando la moral en Calzoncillos!
A bus on a busy street struck a Catholic man.
He was lying near death on the sidewalk as a crowd gathered.
"A priest. Somebody get me a priest!" the man gasped.
Long seconds dragged on but no one stepped out of the crowd.
A policeman checked the crowd and finally yelled, "A PRIEST, PLEASE! Isn't there a priest in this crowd to give this man his last rites?"
Finally, out of the crowd stepped a little old Jewish man in his 80s.
"Mr. Policeman," said the man, "I'm not a priest. I'm not even a Christian. But for 50 years now, I'm living behind the Catholic Church on Second Avenue , and every night I'm overhearing their services. I can recall a lot of it, and maybe I can be of some comfort to this poor man."
The policeman agreed, and cleared the crowd so the man could get through to where the injured man lay.
The old Jewish man knelt down, leaned over the man and said in a solemn voice Under the B 7 Under the N 41 Under the G 66