SANTO DOMINGO. – Environment Ministry agents arrested more than 100 undocumented Haitians caught burning trees in the Los Haitises National Park, for which they’ll be charged and handed over to the Immigration Agency.
Environment said the undocumented foreigners burned the trees in the protected area to plant crops, for which the 112, all residents illegal way in the country.
Environment’s Protection Services director colonel Francisco Santos headed the arresters in coordination with the Immigration Agency.
The detainees, with the complicity of locals set fire to sections of the forests to plant mostly the tuber yautía in the clearings, investigators said.
Los Haitises, a source of important rivers is currently under a recovery process after squatters whom realized subsistence farming and raised cattle were evicted by decree several years ago.
Written by: msjersey, 23 Nov 2009 9:09 AM
From: United States, New Jersey(Cibaeno/Los mina)
Written by: riosm, 23 Nov 2009 9:51 AM
From: United States
Good....... none were shot or killed.
Written by: zooma, 23 Nov 2009 9:52 AM
From: United States
This story only indicates that Dominican authorities use selective enforcement of laws and regulations. The storyline hits hard upon the Haitians with only a mention of "complicity of the locals". How else are you going to get the attention of the reader? Yet, it is the behind the scenes locals with a base of eye winking authorities that create and support the demand for the crops; and the burning trees otherwise known as charcoal. The Haitians are only the dupes. The Haitians get arrested and the locals are out looking for more dupes to replace them. There is no information as what actions have been taken, if anything, against the "locals".
Chalk it up as xenophobia gets the headlines
From: United States, Brooklyn
justice...
Written by: Micaela, 23 Nov 2009 10:43 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Oh God, poor Haitians! If they are not clearly the victims, they are dupes, innocent by standings or something else, except guilty parties. It is not enough that instead or dumping them in jail, they are only returned to their country, not, they should go free to do it again, and locals to jail, right? How about Dominicans chopping trees in Haiti, with the "complicity of the locals"? How do you think they would fare, and would you be taking about them as dupes, Zooma?
Written by: bienamor, 23 Nov 2009 11:06 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Micaela you may not like the message but its the truth. The park is a long way from Haiti. And with out the complicity of the locals this could not have been done. Locals had to know it was going on, know its against the law, Did not report it. would have had to help with the transport.
Makes no difference in how they would fare were the situation reversed as that is not the case. If you want to stop the problem then justice has to hit all concerned, jail time and then deportation for non citizens. For citizens jail time and fine.
If you want to stop the problem then you have to stop the source, which would the locals that let them set up in the area to begin with.
Written by: xwill7, 23 Nov 2009 11:24 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
ban them from ever becoming legal in DR. They need to start a tree cutters most wanted list
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
i agree with zooma
all haitians are dupes
if only they will stay in dupes Island !
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
put them in the lowest place with the swine who steal electricity .....floggings for them both
From: United States
"With complicity of locals"
Thanks God I can read English.
This helps me understand the content of an article . I can pots fair ,unbiased,and objective comments not guided by fear, anger, prejudice and vain nationalism.
Written by: xwill7, 23 Nov 2009 1:11 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
we have rangers?
Written by: lovingit, 23 Nov 2009 2:40 PM
From: United States, Delaware
Micaela,
"How about Dominicans chopping trees in Haiti, with the "complicity of the locals"?"
What trees?
Written by: Lopez31, 23 Nov 2009 2:41 PM
From: United States
Xwill,
I remember back in the days of balaguer these rangers used to be called "Foretas". The would roam the pinos in San Jose de Las matas. Anyone caught chopping down Pinos would be send to prison. The "Foretas" went away when Leonel and hipolito came in!
Written by: msjersey, 23 Nov 2009 3:08 PM
From: United States, New Jersey(Cibaeno/Los mina)
Written by: Micaela, 23 Nov 2009 3:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Bienamor the park is a long way from Haiti, so is Bavaro and is full of Haitians. So complicity of the locals, because they had to know it was going on, know is against the law, did not report it, that make them dupes, poor victims and Dominicans the culprits in all senses. I see it now, that's why we all Dominicans are responsible for their massive presence in DR, we know they are here, we see them, we know they don't have any documentation, so their presence is illegal, we don't report them. The few fools that persecuted them and run them out of their towns when they kill somebody are abusive, racist, xenophobes and potential assassins, while the killer becomes the poor persecuted victim. We can't win!
And the source is the locals (responsible) that let them set up in the area, no the haitians for coming in illegally, setting up there and cut the trees, poor victims. We can't win!
From: United States
Now this is a positive act by the rangers to protect Loa Haises. Regardless who does the crime the law shall prevail. I do not agree on all account that Haitians are duped these people came to DR with a sole purpose to devastate the forest that benefits both countries. If only our government was responsible in Haiti we would not have 2% of forest in Haiti The DR should lock them up after serving time for both crimes entering the country illegaly and cut or burning the trees deport them with promise that next time they are cought they will spend 10 to 15 years in prison
Written by: xwill7, 23 Nov 2009 3:54 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
lopez,
these guys need to come back. Imagine driving from Santiago to San Jose de las Matas and not feeling the change in air that you feel. Once you start hitting the mountainsyou can feel the great air quality of the SAJOMA mountain areas.
the people of the border towns must miss that
Written by: ateo1992 
, 23 Nov 2009 6:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic
OMFg! this is an invasion, hide anywhere you can!
no no! we shouldn't be afraid! where our funding fathers afraid of the enemy! NOT AT ALL! so now lets get our Dominican flags and march on the streets and campos of our nation to ask an immediate action for whats going on with the destruction of our natural beauty! !
: b
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
I see no end to this crime against nature, humanity. Yes, humanity! Many innocent Haitians have perished as a consequence of deforestation. In fact, I suppose deforestation is akin to mass murder!
This crime cannot continue with impunity, and some drastic measures must be put in place-including public hangings-be the perpetrators Dominican or Haitian. No excuses for poverty, ignorance or greed. They are all equal and could hang equally-no discrimination!
Think of this initiative as proactive to protect the innocent and elderly and everyone else.
Now is time for preventative action, and we must not wait until our own forests have diminished by 98 %, for then it will be too late for all of us. Besides, China and India are not keen on taking immigrants and, because so many of you hate the US so much, you are not welcome here, either. However, not to worry, for I understand Castro and Chavez await you with open arms.
MJEV.
Written by: telemeco, 24 Nov 2009 8:43 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
I think they were dupe, there are lot of small town around that area, and the dominican campesino know that there is no growing crops inside the park, now i happen to be from one of those town, they are lot of batey and haitian are also moving into the dominican town, whoever dupe these haitian into doing and getting caught, kudos to you,
Written by: bienamor, 24 Nov 2009 10:59 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Written by: Micaela, 23 Nov 2009 3:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic
because they had to know it was going on, know is against the law, did not report it, that make them dupes, poor victims and Dominicans the culprits in all senses. we know they are here, we see them, we know they don't have any documentation, so their presence is illegal, we don't report them.
We can't win!
boooo hoooooo, Dominicans need to take some of the Responsibility for this.
Oh here we go again with the Poor Dominican Victims, BullCrap. Will you someday take some responsibility for your actions? NO
.Am not saying that the Haitians were innocent, but that there were some Dominicans that were just as gulity. But nothing will happen to them so the problem will go on.
The locals know that there is no farming in the park, did they turn them in or buy their products?
did they help freight the produce, or did the Haitians pack it out on their back.
From: United States
and the word :LOCALS .
From: United States
Thank you Lord for having given me the intelligence to comprehend the word :COMPLICITY.
From: United States
and the word : LOCALS
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http://www.listindiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=122479
We should test the tucanos we the tree cutters, regarless who's doing it.
This story only indicates that Dominican authorities use selective enforcement of laws and regulations. The storyline hits hard upon the Haitians with only a mention of "complicity of the locals". How else are you going to get the attention of the reader? Yet, it is the behind the scenes locals with a base of eye winking authorities that create and support the demand for the crops; and the burning trees otherwise known as charcoal. The Haitians are only the dupes. The Haitians get arrested and the locals are out looking for more dupes to replace them. There is no information as what actions have been taken, if anything, against the "locals".
Chalk it up as xenophobia gets the headlines
justice...
Makes no difference in how they would fare were the situation reversed as that is not the case. If you want to stop the problem then justice has to hit all concerned, jail time and then deportation for non citizens. For citizens jail time and fine.
If you want to stop the problem then you have to stop the source, which would the locals that let them set up in the area to begin with.
i agree with zooma
all haitians are dupes
if only they will stay in dupes Island !
Thanks God I can read English.
This helps me understand the content of an article . I can pots fair ,unbiased,and objective comments not guided by fear, anger, prejudice and vain nationalism.
"How about Dominicans chopping trees in Haiti, with the "complicity of the locals"?"
What trees?
I remember back in the days of balaguer these rangers used to be called "Foretas". The would roam the pinos in San Jose de Las matas. Anyone caught chopping down Pinos would be send to prison. The "Foretas" went away when Leonel and hipolito came in!
http://www.elnacional.com.do/naci....ncian-haitianos-extraen-arena-rio
Habra que dejarle la isla a esa gente, y a los corruptos que permiten que ellos hagan lo que quieran.
And the source is the locals (responsible) that let them set up in the area, no the haitians for coming in illegally, setting up there and cut the trees, poor victims. We can't win!
these guys need to come back. Imagine driving from Santiago to San Jose de las Matas and not feeling the change in air that you feel. Once you start hitting the mountainsyou can feel the great air quality of the SAJOMA mountain areas.
the people of the border towns must miss that
no no! we shouldn't be afraid! where our funding fathers afraid of the enemy! NOT AT ALL! so now lets get our Dominican flags and march on the streets and campos of our nation to ask an immediate action for whats going on with the destruction of our natural beauty! !
: b
This crime cannot continue with impunity, and some drastic measures must be put in place-including public hangings-be the perpetrators Dominican or Haitian. No excuses for poverty, ignorance or greed. They are all equal and could hang equally-no discrimination!
Think of this initiative as proactive to protect the innocent and elderly and everyone else.
Now is time for preventative action, and we must not wait until our own forests have diminished by 98 %, for then it will be too late for all of us. Besides, China and India are not keen on taking immigrants and, because so many of you hate the US so much, you are not welcome here, either. However, not to worry, for I understand Castro and Chavez await you with open arms.
MJEV.
I think they were dupe, there are lot of small town around that area, and the dominican campesino know that there is no growing crops inside the park, now i happen to be from one of those town, they are lot of batey and haitian are also moving into the dominican town, whoever dupe these haitian into doing and getting caught, kudos to you,
From: Dominican Republic
because they had to know it was going on, know is against the law, did not report it, that make them dupes, poor victims and Dominicans the culprits in all senses. we know they are here, we see them, we know they don't have any documentation, so their presence is illegal, we don't report them.
We can't win!
boooo hoooooo, Dominicans need to take some of the Responsibility for this.
Oh here we go again with the Poor Dominican Victims, BullCrap. Will you someday take some responsibility for your actions? NO
.Am not saying that the Haitians were innocent, but that there were some Dominicans that were just as gulity. But nothing will happen to them so the problem will go on.
The locals know that there is no farming in the park, did they turn them in or buy their products?
did they help freight the produce, or did the Haitians pack it out on their back.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/....endra-jamais-sur-la-tva-a-55-.php