Like the street dogs of the barrios...these perros preyed on "their own" ......LIE-onel should lift the restrictions on firearms for homeowners and allow the citizens to defend themselves.

In many states in the EEUU, the "Castle Doctrine" allows homeowners to shoot and kill robbers outside their homes....and inside their homes. This makes identification of the bad guys easy and would send a loud message when COPS have to come retrieve "their own" dead.

Gun laws in DR make no sense and are archaic. The military have a long history of getting "perks", from always asking for and getting "freebies" to being out of reach from civilian laws, rules and regulations.
All kinds of rules, restrictions and regulations for civilian gun owners, but very little screening and tests for police and military.
Police and armed forces members are recruited from the poor, disadvantaged and uneducated and given weapons, to then easily abuse the uniform or badge they carry.
Military and police have to be "reengineered" and the bad apples weeded out. Pay has to increase according to civilian private salaries, so the military and police will not be duped into committing felonies, and abuse against civilians, just trying to keep up with "the joneses".

doggpound, everyone I know carrys gun 24/7 in DR

what a nice little scam for the holidays

Leonel will never lift the restrictions on firearms to the general public because he does not want anyone protecting themselves nor will he protect anyone with a corrupt police department.
The Leonel dictatorship reminds me very much of the book by Adolf Hitler, Miene Kampf.
First you destroy the power of the bankers.
Then you remove freedom of the Press.
Then finaly you get society to hate and in the case of the DR hate Haitiens and now you have a common goal.
Eventually offer your self as a savior of other countries and align yourself with your axis force allies. Hugo Chavez equates to Musolinni, Castro equates to the emperor of Japan.

The perfect storm is being created or here history will repeat itself.

Generoso,
I agree 100%. Nothing worst then a uniformed, armed badge carrying robber with a twisted criminal mentality.
They should make them all examples in order to restore Public confidence.

Xwill7,
So would I.....

public floggings

Every one please understand that untill the problem is solved at the top nothing will ever be done at the bottom of the totem pole.

Until you cut off the head of the snake "Leonel" the snake will live on.
Leonel with his purist face is allowing this farce of a democracy to continue.

Approximately two weeks ago this similar scenario, of being followed from the airport, occurred to friends of mine who where retuning from shopping trip to New York for their wedding.

They were to get married that following weekend. The father of the groom was shot in the leg when he tried to defend the family with his legally owned weapon. It was very sad to see him in a wheelchair at the ceremony, he is lucky to have survived as the bullet came within millimeters of artery

I just called them and gave the names of these alleged suspects, hopefully there is some connection.

doggpound "In many states in the EEUU, the "Castle Doctrine" allows homeowners to shoot and kill robbers"

Reminds me of John Horn of Texas who rightfully shoot two will be robber in his neigbor empty house about two year ago. Muerto el perro se acabo la rabia.

I have said this for years. Why does this country need such a large military ? Who wants in invade the D.R. ? Cuba ? Puerto Rico ? The Bahamas ? Yes, A small force to protect the border between the D.R. and, Haiti. Hell they could pay down the National Debt. If they got rid of all of these BUMS.

Josean,
That really sucks !


Truly sad when the ones we look up to for protection are the ones we really need to watch out for.

I say......These uniform, gun packing, badge carrying criminals should be put away for life.

Is it no wonder so many Dominicans take the Law into their own hands.

Thank you risom,

My friend, who was shot, is very hard working man putting in long days and sometimes nights to keep his business and family afloat. These are decent people who have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. He helped his wife get a law degree, one son (the groom) is an engineer, the only daughter is an architect and the younger son is in medical school.

This is a model Dominican family who chose to stay in the country and have succeeded against overwhelming odds. All they have achieved has been via their own back breaking work, without botellas or any corrupt dealings.

If I were ever able to lay hands on these perpetrators, I would be willing to extract the hearts out with my bare hands.

josie,Iam very proud of you.
I though all you were good at was to run your dumb vadetta against our great, progressive,and pragmatic leader Leonel Fernandez

"great, progressive,and pragmatic leader Leonel Fernandez"

Please enlighten us on;

1. The Greatness

2. The Progress

3. And the Pragmatism.


Of El Jefe!

What you called a "vendetaa" is called speaking truth to power and in your case not willing to drink the KOOL-AID!

for the last 12 years this kind of robbery is been happend and now is that they taking action about it. I think is about time that police oficial have their people in the proper area working for the people even in the parking lot of the airport you can see police officers follow the travelers to their car asking for money no directly but the way they act.

Josean,
Thank you.

Atabey,

Look at it this way......The DR can't even stop the illegal drug trade let alone the illegal weapons trade. I look at it this way.......Most criminals go after easy, quick targets with big buck pay-offs.

CRIMINALS WOULD THINK TWICE IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THERE INTENDED TARGET WAS PROBABLY ARMED AND WILLING TO USE DEADLY FORCE.

Oh by the way we first have to trust the troops and police officers and hope for greed they don't flip to the dark side.

It doesn't matter what we do, or what the law enforcement does to protect us, criminals are always gonna be among us; the cops and other armed forces in D.R. have a share of bad apples that instead of protecting, are robbing the citizens, selling drugs, etc, ect, ect....
God help us all...

Well I travel from SPM to Banica at 1 AM many times and have never had a problem. But of course everyone is sleeping. And other places.
Thanks Lieonelly kaffa

Atabey,
Not everyone should own a firearm and I agree but many who I know that own firearms legally with carry permits in the DR are some of the safest, respectful citizens around. Many have told me if it wasn't for their right to defend life and property with their firearm hey would be vicious victims of brutal crime. Firearms should always be used as a last resort. Criminals will always have guns. You did right by walking away the possible life or death treat was not intended for you or your family, THANK GOD.

MsJersey,
True SAD comment.

Basta,
Take extra caution, one can never fell to safe and always try to maintain a safe proof attitude. As I said before Criminals prey on easy helpless victims. especially around the Holidays "Tis the season".
I've been robbed at gun point 3 times in the past, I was more afraid of being shot by accident instead of intentional, he had all the power and he knew it, good thing for him I wasn't armed, IF ARMED PICK YOUR BATTLES.

DoggPound, "In many states in the EEUU, the "Castle Doctrine" allows homeowners to shoot and kill robbers outside their homes....and inside their homes." Sorry to report but those days are longgg over with in america as we once knew it. Now the govt is disarming its citizens at alarming rates in fear of themselves being the target in light of what the govt and NWO are accomplishing. Veterans, and law abiding citizens are now labelled as criminals for owning or possessing firearms. When you find a free nation that permits this ,let us know.

VivaCuba

NOBODY is being disarmed in the U.S.A. Right now, there is an ammunition shortage in the U.S.
Prices for guns are rising and classes for permits to carry in the states that allow it ARE FULL. You know nothing of what you speak....it's propaganda like the Castros spew.

Caiate! (STFU!)

Doggpound,
Thank you, that's what happens when the media is totally controlled. One hears a lie long enough one believes it............One then becomes a PUPPET OF TWISTED ONE SIDED PROPAGANDA. As a happy firearm's collector I can attest to that. But I will say if Castro the ass-hole would let the Cuban People posses personal firearms they would of over-throne the Castro Gov. and Castro would of have been history, but poor VivaCuba who will never know or realize that.

I recommend Dreadwilliam's Guillotine

Nasty little piece of equipment....

Works really good...

No repeat offenders....

WATCH THE SHOW...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXels5zsE_M&feature=fvw

You poor americans that think you are armed are in for a big surprise as the US Government incrementally disarms you. America is NOT what it used to be. WAKE UP! Disarm you first, then control you as you are defenseless.

They only way our Government will take our guns. Is out of cold dead hands.

VivaCuba you are extremely delusional and portray a very unrealistic image of how things are in various parts of the world. It appears that most people realize this and just ignore your comments since none are based upon facts but fictitious opinions you have. I have found it just as easy to get a handgun in the United States as it was for me to get in Santiago. I am not a criminal and my family has given me the experience of handling and firing guns since we were all young children. There is nobody trying to disarm law abiding citizens. VC you should spend some more of your energy trying to gain simple liberties for the Cuban people which very few seem to have currently. I have spent quite a bit of time in Cuba as well so I am aware of the plight of the Cuban people. There rights are trampled on every day far worse than those of the people you mention.Cubans are being denied basic things like adequate food and toilet paper in major cities.Try living in those conditions.

CaptRob,
True many firearm owning friends of mine fell the same way. Gun ownership in the U.S is a constitutional right, not a privilege like a drivers license.

VeronicaDR,
Thank you very much, well said. You took the words right out of my mouth.

The one bad thing is our rights say we can bear arms. It does not say we can bear shot, or primer. This is how they are going to screw us. Is by banning powder, shot, primer etc.

By the way I do not own a gun. Just believe in our rights as U.S. citizens.

CaptRob,
That's alright....."Bear arms" then I'll use the following right FREEDOM OF SPEECH to claim to be a protected Grizzly bear, then use FREEDOM OF RELIGION to claim a God given right that all Men are created equal, then pursue owning a firearm as a GUARANTEE TO LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUE OF HAPPINESS [I'm mostly safe & happy owning firearms] and if that doesn't I'll stick with the cold middle finger.

Fear a government that fears it's citizens from owning guns, just ask the experts Mao, Stalin and Hitler or modern day Castro, Hugo etc.. etc.. all will agree gun control.....people control works.

Is it any wonder so many people have been stock piling for years now.

It's like owning a car with out gasoline.

JUST THINK....for the last 200 plus years the American People has never tryed to overthrow the U.S Gov. which can say a lot to the Communist, Socialist Governments / Country's of the 19th and 20th century.

Did you get that VivaCuba.

The good thing you speak of is simple..........primer, casing, powder and projectile all put together makes the perfect round, besides all the Fed, State, City firearms Tax is needed.
Think of it as this way....does California really want to tax kill the tobacco Industry when every tax penny is needed ?
Think of the extra massive unemployment, maybe we'll really see HOPE and CHANGE come the elections of 2012.

Yet one more reason for some of us to feel apprehensive about visiting DR.

I make no excuses for pay or rank......these individuals would be pre-disposed to the commission of crime no matter how much money they make or possess. I supposed they were pre-programmed at birth to have such disposition. It really matters not how much money they have or their social status; the only difference would be the magnitude of the crimes committed. Period.

MJEV.

I raise my hat up to all of you who support right to possess, bear arms. This right is very dear to my heart and one of the greatest and significant rights bestowed on American citizens. I am a gun owner, lover and possess several guns and more than 1500 rounds of ammo. I am also crazy about knives.

Long ago, I made a sacred vow to protect my family no matter the cost, and am ready every day to defend them to the last drop of blood; they know that and appreciate it very much.

Daughter was babysitting at 12 years of age and called me one night at about 1:30 AM to tell me somebody was turning the front door knob. I immediately jumped out of bed, grabbed my Glock 22 and ran over to neighbor's house. I searched the entire premises and didn't find anyone. When I came in, I saw my daughter holding a 12-inch butcher knife-one of my proudest moments! I knew somehow I had taught her self-sufficiency and how to protect herself and not be a victim. That was great!

MJEV.

Travellers are a target for the criminal element of society in many countries including the USA , Spain. Italy , Costa Rica,Peru, Dominican Republic and India . I mention these countries because I have been involved in nasty incidents in all of them ..it is not just the DR where the problems occur. Bus stations, rail stations,tourist areas and airports are favourite locations for trouble. For many years in Calcutta and Delhi ,taxis fron the airport has to travel in convoy with a police guard at night ,the bus station in downtown San jose is notorious as is the cathedral square in Milan.
I have never had a problem at SDQ but several times late at night I have been nervous returning to la Romana and one night my taxi driver ran straight into a police or army road blockade , all men were wearing balaclavas over their heads and were heavily armed ..rather scary
On another occasion the driver of a taxi carrying friends from JFK to NY stopped to fix a tyre and was shot dead by thugs

I was talking to one of my charters the other day. He had just moved to New York from Japan. Both he and his wife are experts in fighting with swords. I asked him if someone was to pull a gun on him would open the door to his home and let them in . Or fight them on the street. His answer was the same as mine. Fight them on the street. Why give them a second or third victim. You want me you are going to have to shoot me. I am not just going to stand there and let you execute me. I am going at you like a raging bull. Lets see who wins. I got a 50/50 chance. If I let them I am dead so is everyone in the house.

riosm, I did get that and I agree with all you have said especially about Hitler, Stalin and Mao. Is what I dont understand is, is that the USA is fitting this description to a "T" right now and not many people are waking up to this. Perhaps it is the govt controlled media blacking out what is really occurring in the USA which is a daily loss of your rights as US Citizens through presidential orders and the appointments of unelected officials removing your rights systematically. Somehow, most americans are not taking note and putting this puzzle together. People need to do internet research and confirm reports of my allegations through third party searches to support the claims. When done, there is little doubt left the end of the free america is coming to a rapid end.

VivaCuba,
Thank you, your input nailed it...........better then one of my many rifles like, my Savage mod. 12 SS fluted Bull BL accu-trigger target model rifle w/a 7x32x52 mm hair cross scope in a 22-250 cal. using 55 gr. Hornandy ballistic tip BT at approx. 4215 fps 2 or better inch group at 400 yds bench rest on a so so day.
Take care.

Riosm, that is great for long distance. I tell all my friends I don't own a gun because, I am not scared of one. If a person wants to shoot me he can easy from 100 yards away. A person with a knife has to get in close.

I wll say something my father told me as a child. " Son only your family members or friends will hurt you " Forget about money we can always make more money. The most pain you ever felt came from a family member or friend. Because, we won't deal with strangers and, they don't deal with us.

In Florida, there is a new Law. If your life is threatened you can shoot. No matter even if you are on a public street , home, etc.

Great law.

If only criminals are allowed to possess guns. Then only criminals will have guns.

CaptRob,
THANKS FOR THOSE WORDS OF WISDOM TO LIVE BY.

As a law abiding responsible firearms owner I'm troubled by the graphic violence and video games played and viewed by our Children, I call it numbing of the senses and that violence is acceptable, and to think many don't believe violence on T.V or at the movies don't effect the minds of our Children.
I am very scared of my firearms and have great respect in fact the day I lose fear / respect it will be the day I'll turn them over or sale them all.

Almost forgot...In my home my Children treat there nurf guns, toy guns, BB / pellet guns & rifles, air soft guns with the same respect as the real ones, we also treat them like the real loaded ones and keep them locked at all times.

Sir, true sometimes words can hurt more then physical pain.

I believe a armed society is a polite society.

Take care while on the high seas, response time by the C G can take hours.

Risom, I am 52 years young. My father was an ex officer in the U.S. Army. He had an Army issued 45 in his top drawer. I am the youngest of 4 boys. we all new it was there. Learned how to shoot, hunt etc. at a very young age. 10 years of age i had my first shotgun. We were told never to take his wepond out. We dare NOT. The problem is not video games, T.V. it is no Respect. I remember growing up if you mis-behaved at someones house you got your ASS spanked. Before you got home a phone call was already made. You got it twice as bad at home. " What are you doing disrespecting your family name like that". Now the kids call 911;. I have NO children but, if I did, and they called 911 because, I disaplined them. I would take them on a long fishing trip. look at sports today no losers no winners, everybody gets a chance to play . What is this. If there is no motivation to win why play. Does this bring our current wars to mind ?