From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
maybe JD they are coming to your town
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the honeycomb of corruption goes higher than colonels ....they should do what they did in Iraq disband the military and start all over with motivated people and not crooks ....This is to deep to weed out leonel must practically start from scratch or this cancer will grow again ....I am talking about the officer class not the foot soldiers
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
these stooges with their chapitas standing around in the photos make me want to throw up all of them acting like they did not know about it .....it is rotten to the foundation the National police and the alleged military brass
Written by: juanb, 17 Feb 2009 8:03 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Fired? Fired? They should be FRIED.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
we read it already .....you are starting to be a broken record or worse a Metro whiner
Written by: josean, 17 Feb 2009 8:43 AM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"replaced him with brigadier general Eduardo Alberto Then.
Prior to his duties in Puerto Plata, Then headed the Central Cibao Regional command based in Santiago, where he stood out for his work against organized crime."
JD isn't this the guy who has failed to clean up your neighborhood in Santiago?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
you mean ENSANCHE CAONABO barrio of Santiago near the CIBAO STADIUM & CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL ....is that the barrio in Santiago ?
Written by: josean, 17 Feb 2009 8:58 AM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
That's the one!
Written by: generoso, 17 Feb 2009 9:19 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
The problem is endemic. The police in the states have an "internal affairs" department that supervises and polices the police. We need something similar here but armed forces wide.
The problem is that just like the department of corruption creates another toll gate to the corruptors,
and becomes inoperable.
Maybe if it were run by a private civilian entity run by foreigners or independent investigative corps it would work.
From: United States
OK. But this is just the first step.
Now have them tell you how it works and with whom.
From: United States
Oh and most importantly, you have to put them in jail for a long time.
Otherwise they will just start all over again and be more vicious.
Written by: Jander, 17 Feb 2009 9:44 AM
From: Dominican Republic
The term "epidemic" is often used in a sense to refer to widespread and growing societal problems, for example, in discussions of obesity, mental illness or drug addiction. It can also be used metaphorically to relate a type of problem like those mentioned above.
These drug dealers/police/military are infecting the world and their own citizens. The same citizens they vowed to protect and serve.
If this government can't control it's law enforcement and military there will soon be a coalition formed that will be forced to come in and occupy this nation.
Unless someone knows of a better solution?
Written by: bernies, 17 Feb 2009 9:53 AM
From: United States, key west fl
Hey generoso FYI..that is the only reason why they are find out about all these officers being involved in criminal activities, because of the Internal Affairs unit that is headed by arms forces chieff of staffs. and that unit only have to report to him and the president. so yes they do have that unit here.
Written by: etiennc, 17 Feb 2009 10:19 AM
From: United States
Roso you and Goulet are up to a good start.
I am not posting any comments just reading and learning
I have my other half living in Puerto Plata , I go there 4 5 times a year ,all good news about Imbert Puerti Plata concern me
Get me informed.
good day
Written by: generoso, 17 Feb 2009 10:32 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
bernies
How come no one told me that? LOL.
That is good but still and due to the famous fraternal loyalty that all armed forces members have for each other, maybe they are more lenient than they should be and let things get out of hand.
The armed forces have to be more strict and law abiding than the civilian population and set their standards much higher than they are now, for their own survival.
From: United States
now that these guys have been relieved of duties because of complicity in drug trafficking, do we expect to see any indictments handed up, or do they just mosey off out into the sunset? if they just bugger off into another line of work, then it is a good risk to take. make tons of money, get fired, and go live happily ever after in San Francisco De Macoris, shining and washing the hummer all livelong day.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
JD what was the name of that barrio again ?
Written by: juanb, 17 Feb 2009 11:51 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Nice to see a new wolf guarding the hen house.
Written by: Jander, 17 Feb 2009 12:33 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The million dollar question
Written by: dreadlocks, 17 Feb 2009 10:45 AM
From: United States
now that these guys have been relieved of duties because of complicity in drug trafficking, do we expect to see any indictments handed up, or do they just mosey off out into the sunset? if they just bugger off into another line of work, then it is a good risk to take. make tons of money, get fired, and go live happily ever after in San Francisco De Macoris, shining and washing the hummer all livelong day.
Does anybody know if the DR has a military prison like the USA's Leavenworth?
From: United States
no idea, Jander. even if they did, they would use it to incarcerate barrio women who steal a broom
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
They should incarcerate all the military drugdealers.
Then, the goverment should take away all the drugdealers assets and use the money to build the wall between DRt and Haiti. Put th edrug dealers to work by laying bricks.
Written by: etiennc, 17 Feb 2009 3:53 PM
From: United States
Ponponlabura we know that you will bring Haiti's name in this discussion.
Se falta la salsa ?
You miss cruz666, haitian1804
dominicanation and gang.
What an agent provocateur ,a pompomlachica !
Written by: vacanos, 17 Feb 2009 4:00 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
dr is in severe need of a internal afffair bureau with at least 500 agent and these people qualification at least a Bachelor degree and pay them at least 20,000us a year. it is the only option to clean root out these lacras out of the service.
From: United States
really? and what would stop the guys getting 20,000 per year from getting in with the druggies, pray tell? you think that because they are being well paid means that they suddenly find God? if money was the issue, Bernie Madoff would have stopped a long time ago. what the country needs is a RICO type statute, wherein these guys are prosecuted at the highest level of the judiciary, if there is such a thing. the way it is done in the USA, where federal prosecutors cut people's nuts off for racketeering and corrupt practices. give these guys 20,000 per year, they will want 50,000, or more. now that they have a taste of the good life, they will just seek more.
Written by: vacanos, 17 Feb 2009 5:08 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
dreadlock
how is my getho friend
a person with a BA in law will bring profesionalism to the job just as us federal agent qualification in the usa. A person who spent 5 or 6 year of his life working for a BA will thnk twice of losing that BA over centavos $20,000 is a super salary in dr. they will weight the consequense just like a nypd officer here who get on average $60,000 whether it is right to risk a super job over centavos there are some nypd here who had lost their job over some fake pulse at chinatown. corruption is everywhere what i proposed is a good initiative .
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
Also, college degree, maybe a master should be required for high rank military.
From: United States
firstly, vacanos, what in heck is a "getho"? you stated that you had a college degree. if you do, then you should immediately demand a refund, and there should be an investigation into the credentials of any institution that issued you one. for one as limited, ignorant, and opinionated as yourself, you should at least strive for vestigial literacy before trying to issue written insults. at least take a course in remedial writing. we can continue trading insults as long as you like, because i do not suffer fools gladly. in the end, my mongoloid semi-literate, you only end up publicising your deficiencies, which, quite frankly, are glaring. besides, you cannot compare the cultural ecosystem of the DR and the USA in order to establish the efficacy of initiatives. there is no guarantee that the results will be the same, given differing cultural imperatives and dynamics. the only guaranteed methodology is effective punishment. so, go to the bursar at the "university" you attended,
From: United States
and threaten to sue on grounds of detrimental reliance, and fraud. they cannot counter on the grounds of quantum meruit, since you apparently got nothing in return for your tuition fees.
Written by: vacanos, 17 Feb 2009 6:05 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
popolanburra
yes i agree with you.
Written by: vacanos, 17 Feb 2009 6:14 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
dreadlock
the getho dude
There is not a person more ignorant and payaso in this Dominican forum than you. there is not a chance you want to miss to put down our country and when someone suggest something positive for the good of our country you are the first player hater in this forum to knock it down saying we are not capable. You are the typical ghetto from the project who knows everything but is too lazy to get up from the couch so you demand the handout from the govt and when the handout doesn’t arrive in time then try to rob a poor dude on the street. so sad
From: United States
is that the best you can do, you little simpleton. all the black stereotypes have been played out. being more intelligent than you, i will not get into a set of stereotypes that people express about the DR and its people, because stereotypes are better applied by ignorant people like you. you went on another thread and embarrased yourself with your ignorance, then asserted that you have a college degree. how could you do that, and you cannot cobble a sentence together? it is sad that with all the available assets in america for self advancement, you should end up as an uneducated, uninformed , deluded windbag, who lives by creating his own facts, which he cannot defend. get thee to a library, and learn something, for chrissake!
Written by: josean, 17 Feb 2009 7:09 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
dread,
Your coming awfully close to child abuse again, be careful my brother!
From: United States
vacanos, as a wise man once said, you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. you opined that Dominicans rule the roost in New York, in terms of socio economic development.
The non-Hispanic native white performance is set at 100. I gave equal weight to each of the factors, which probably inflates the numbers on education and underappreciates welfare use (or a lack thereof). Nonetheless, the rankings certainly have face validity:
Rank Country of origin Merit index
1. India 145.6
2. Japan 139.0
3. Canada 133.2
4. United Kingdom 128.1
5. Germany 120.1
6. Former USSR 108.3
7. Philippines 108.0
8. South Korea 103.0
9. Iran 100.8
x n-H White natives 100.0
10. China 91.6
11. Italy 84.9
12. Poland 76.5
13. Vietnam 54.9
14. Colombia 54.8
15. Peru 48.9
16. Jamaica 43.4
17. Brazil 30.6
18. Cuba 26.0
x Hispanic natives 21.8
19. Haiti 15.3
x Black natives 13.2
20. Ecuador (13.3)
21. Dominican Republic (54.5)
From: United States
i can provide you the url, so you can get one of your friends who can read to decipher the article for you. it explains why the figures at the bottom are in parentheses. know what that means?
Written by: vacanos, 17 Feb 2009 7:32 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
so dreadful i got u under my skin. what else is new. you are now saying you wont sterotypes dr from now on. good . i think i did my job with you imbecile. making you see the light. about your personal attack i expected from you guys backward manner.
From: United States
http://anepigone.blogspot.com/200....formance-of-immigrant-groups.htmlgo get someone to read that for you, nitwit. as for your assertion that blacks own nothing of economic worth: who do you think owns Essence Magazine, BET, GQ, Randy Moss Motorsports, Sean John, just to name a few things which have no equivalent in the DR community in terms of magnitude? you are pathetic, and clueless.
From: United States
vacanos, when you reply to me, can you please do it in english? i do not speak, nor do i translate, gibberish.
Written by: vacanos, 17 Feb 2009 8:07 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
dreadlock
nice to see you giving cred to some of your people hustler like sean john and randy moss. i expected that you will bring some of you guys biggest thugs. i think you missed 50cent i think he own some water product also russell simon. i knew it you will bring thugs to back you up. so sad and then you dont want to sterotypes.
here is how we stackup in job creation by dominican business in usa expecially in nyc dominican are opening over 2,400 new business every month and increasing.
http://www.sba.gov/advo/research/rs334tot.pdfFrom: United States
to the serious posters and readers, i offer my apologies. but please look at the disposition of the dimwit to whom i am replying. to enter the thread by referring to me as the "getho dude" simply does not elicit my endearment. some people have no breeding, and need rebuke. after all, he cannot even spell the word, and is too lazy to consult the dictionary before throwing it at someone. again, i beg your forbearance.
From: United States
this is why it is not a good idea to talk to fools. you question the character of black moguls, but seem to forget that the stereotype of Dominicans is that all their business is financed by sales of drugs. see how silly thing can get when you are silly? foolish americans, who do not know better than to make ignorant generalisations, maintain that all the dominican colmados in new york are drug conduits. so, the gate swings both ways.go read BLACK ENTERPRISE MAGAZINE, and understand the difference between black americans and any immigrant group. oly the Cubans come close, in terms of monster companies.
From: United States
vacanos, are you sure that you really meant to send me that article? do you understand what you just read? do you think that when you rank 21 out of 23 countries in terms of money intake, that means you rule the roost? do you really understand the article, in seriousness? do you even have an idea of how the data is compiled? you should quit now: you are embarrassing yourself, and this article spans the globe. you do big damage to the image of your countrymen.
Written by: etiennc, 17 Feb 2009 8:52 PM
From: United States
I knew this was coming,two ethnic backgrounds trading insults.
The Blacks and the Dominicans
What is your ethnic origin?
Black ?
White ?
White Latino ?
Black latino?
Dominican ?
Indian ?
Arab ?
From: United States
actually, etienne, look at who started the crap, calling me the "getho dude".i started out by discussing the topic, and this is where i end up!
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Are the names of the officers published? Can anybody add a link?
From: United States
i should charge this retard for education. a few barbershops and a restaurant, says the fool. the only business bigger than bad boy entertainment in new york is goya, and, last time i checked, it was Puerto Rican. as a matter of fact, there is no Dominican firm on the top ten of the list. and, mr know nothing, there is a book known as the black pages, because there are so many black owned businesses in ny, it calls for its own business directory. you are pathetic
NEW YORK, NY (emergingminds.org) -- Carver Bancorp, Inc. (NasdaqGM:CARV), the holding company for the largest Black-Owned bank in the U.S. Carver Federal Savings Bank , today announced that it has completed the sale of $18.98 million in preferred stock to the United States Department of the Treasury in connection with Carver's participation in the Capital Purchase Program (the ``CPP'') of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.
From: United States
i hardly remember insulting people who do not try to insult me first. in your case, you are so idiotic , uneducated, and retrograde, it is a waste of time. go to grade school, and learn to read and write, instead of making a fool of yourself in front of the world. your countrymen cringe every time you post, you bumpkin.
Written by: Username, 17 Feb 2009 10:33 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I guess someone forgot to share the dough with the Santo Domingo crew.
Written by: vacanos, 17 Feb 2009 10:45 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
You spent an hour googling and you came up with one black American owner in NYC. Ghetto dude when you have the Jewish people owning almost all the businesses in Harlem the best thing for you is to shut the fccc up and be quiet. Not even around housing project. Meanwhile take a walk from 132 and any street you want Broadway, Amsterdam etc all the way to 230st in the Bronx and 4 out 5 will be Dominican owner. Let me ask you something when was the last one you saw an African American with a suit in NY? they are now using their pants from their waist to their knee. That will take care of you. Remember it is not about color but backward manner.
From: United States
now i know that you are some country bumpkin living in some place like Moca or Munoz. it appears that you have never been to new york. to say that 4 of 5 houses in the bronx are owned by dominicans is a joke. firstly, dominicans own nothing of any significance in terms of real estate north of Gun Hill Road and east of Jerome avenue. nothing. that area is all west indian. woodlawn is all irish, and anything east of the bronx river parkway is jamaican and puerto rican. east of white plains road, from pelham parkway to gun hill is all albanian and other european groups. from i95 east to white plains road is all jamaican and other west indian, pelham bay is italian and irish. dominicans are on the west side of webster ave, below w233 st, down to the south bronx. i lived in new york before you were born, sonny. go sell your foolishness to guys in barber shops in melrose and mott haven. i have forgotten what you will never learn
From: United States
besides, country bumpkin boy, there is very little in the way of private houses in manhattan. apart from harlem, and the western area north of 125 street, it is all apartment buildings. dominicans rent most of the apartments that they live in, so be careful about this "ownership" thing. the Jewish people, and old italian and irish own all the real estate up in upper manhattan. all those businesses you brag about are all leaseholds. again, go shoot off your mouth on some guy who never left Bonao. i can draw you a map of the city with one hand behind my back. corona and bushwick are not nyc. and, as to your foolishness about owning most of the medallion cabs": do you know what a medallion costs? you think you are talking about a motoconcho? a medallion costs 600,000 dollars, if you can get one. they are all owned by syndicates of established european types. minorities lease them on shifts. your bill for education is in the mail.
From: United States
vacanos, are you there?
of all latino nationalities, Peruvians, Cubans, and Colombians had the highest rates of home ownership with over 25% of each of these nationalities living in their own homes according to 2000 U.S. census data. Mexicans, Guatemalans, and Dominicans had the lowest home ownership rates among the Latino national groups.
black homeownership is 21.3 percent....hmmmm...
The study also found that Dominicans have the lowest rate of home ownership, 5.7 percent, followed by island-born Puerto Ricans, 11.6 percent, and mainland-born Puerto Ricans, 14.7 percent. The study found that 21.3 percent of native-born blacks own their own homes, as do 42.9 percent of native-born, non-hispanic whites. hmmm....
From: United States
so , vacanos, you are not entitled to your own facts. i am not here to trash the advancements of Dominicans, who have made phenomenal strides in the US. but, when vacanos tries to make out blacks in america as welfare recipients and bums, i have to school the child.
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 12:24 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
cont. we are making our father JUAN PABLO DUARTE proud.
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 12:24 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Ghetto dude again from 132 streets, Broadway, Amsterdam, Audubon, st Nicholas all the way to dyckman and 230th street by Broadway 4 out 5 Dominican businesses. We were talking about business remember. Please don’t bring up gun hill or White Plains by bx river parkway to the table. Full of backward manner people, the same can be said about sound view or Mott haven or morrisania and all the homes around project in the Bronx. Real estates in that area almost as bad as Newark. Dominicans in the Bronx are moving by Morris Park, Pelham parkway throggs neck and Pelham bay. We are second generation and considering our elder invested in dr to retire there. The young generation of dominicans buying property in those areas above. like you said you used to live in the project before i was born. getho dude nowdays things are different than when the bronx used to be remember by that clint easwood movie fort apache. dominican even have the biggest parade in the bronx by any group. cont
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 12:51 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
by dreadfull "do you know what a medallion costs? you think you are talking about a motoconcho? a medallion costs 600,000 dollars, if you can get one. they are all owned by syndicates of established european types. minorities lease them on shifts. your bill for education is in the mail"
a few year ago the city sold about 120 medallion and it costed 450,000 not 600,000 as you stated. we may not be the leading group among yellow cab but we are number one among gipsy cab where dominican own most of these taxi company.
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 1:02 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
by gheto dude "besides, i have never lived in an apartment building in the USA"
you dont have to live in apartment to be in the gheto try walking by gun hill there is the roots of backward manner people of the bronx just as newark or camden or bed stuy. most new yorker try to avoid the undersirable backward manner people. dont reject your people now imbecile dont be like the haitian govt wih the 30,000 haitian they dont want back to their own country.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 1:02 AM
From: United States
by gheto dude "besides, i have never lived in an apartment building in the USA"
Vacanos:
Dreadlocks is not from NYC; He's a Yard man; JA;
Jamaicka!
Ah foer mi Bredah that man!
From: United States
Arsenio, as you well know, i have no dog in this fight. i just dislike stereotypes of all stripes. i remember when Tommy Smith and John Carlos took a controversial stand in Mexico City, to fight for the dignity of american black people. they destroyed their lives, but it contributed to a consciousness and pride, which was further aided and abetted by James Brown's "Say It loud, i'm black and i'm proud". vacanos comes bragging on this board about how superior dominicans are to black americans. sadly, black americans feel the same, in respect to dominicans. how silly is that? this is the behavior of an unevolved child, who has no concept of anything worthwhile. instead of enjoying the advances Dominicans have made in america, he seeks to lord them over every body, even to the point of abysmal errors. i am just trying to give this poor child the benefit of history. he brags about dominicans buying property in Pelham Bay. 40 years ago, he could not walk through that area, nor wakefield,
From: United States
nor Baychester. i made friends with people who used to have to run home from school, chased by italian and irish kids with sticks and bats. but these guys fought , and established a beachhead for blacks in those areas. now, along comes this ungrateful swine, thinking that those who fought so that he could enjoy the fruits of this country are some incorrigible lowlives. vacanos, you have nothing to brag about. some Dominicas have made the country proud: you are just an illiterate parasite, riding in on the coattails of better peopole than yourself, who gave you a break: now you spit on them. well, rest ssured that the white people do not want you either. keep distancing yourself from everyone. keep reminding the Puerto Ricans how you outshine them, the blacks how you are better than them, and the west indians how advanced you are. they could all use a good laugh.. in the meanwhile, go try buying a house in Rye, or Larchmont, and you will see how white you are.
From: United States
the fact that you are some mulatto from cibao will not impress them. to them , you are just another coconut from the caribbean. you better relax your delusions, or you are going to encounter some real disappointments along the way. remember, when you end up in the hospital, most of the nurses of color are either phillipinas or west indians. they might just slip something in your medicine.
From: United States
just an aside, vacanos: a medallion for a yellow cab costs 600,000 dollars today, and you have to buy a minimum of two. i hardly see a dominican with 1.2 million dollars using it to buy a taxi. maybe you would, because you are not bright enough to do anything more advanced than driving a cab.
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 11:10 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
cont. But we Dominican stickled together and kick their azz every time they tried to jump on us.
I don’t have to go to Westchester to find my perfect house. I got my on Pelham bay right next to country club 50x100 lot. We all get along here just fine. White people are the most humble and sweet peoplei ever met. Sorry I can’t talk bad about them. Not only white people find black American undesirable almost everybody else. Try walking to a black neighborhood. It has nothing to do with color as you trying to imply but backward manner. as the saying go there go the neigborhood.
Like I said before we may not be the leading group with the medallion but we are numero uno gipsy livery cab. In fact we own most of these companies. Sorry to disappoint you, I got my own business. If I have to do it I do it is a decent job like any other. Those people work hard like the most Dominican in NYC to support their family they are not stealing you dummy.
From: United States
vacanos, you achieved one thing here, which i regret, and for which i apologised to readers. i belittled myself by getting into an argument with a creature who must be the most ignorant poster this forum has ever seen. you have no concept of history, society, nor culture. look at your last "the black american pick up what the italian left". do you hear yourself? do you know that that is exactly what the Puerto Ricans say about Dominicans? you got to america in the late 89s: you are still a newcomer, and have a lot to learn. as i said, the Puerto Ricans feel that dominicans took their leftovers. they bought the colmados that Puerto Ricans gave up on. the boricuas assert that the only reason dominicans bought up colmados was to use them as drug spots, because they were no longer financially viable after big supermarkets came into the neighborhoods. besides, on the subject of "picking up": why is it that whenever i go to the airport here, all the dominican adolescents are dressed
From: United States
in FUBU, and Jordans, and Sean John? if they are so reprehensible, and retrograde, why 'pick up" their styles? why copy their music? why not establish something exclusively your own? why bother with such attention to reggaeton? i mean, do you read your posts before you make them?
From: United States
as i said, know nothing, come back and discuss this matter when you produce an athlete of the stature of Arthur Ashe, musicians like Miles Davis , and John Coltrane, inventors like McCOY, screen and stage personalities like Harry Belafonte, Leontyne Price, Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington, and governmental personages like Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, and Barack Obama. you brag about restaurants: when you have one like B Smith's , or Small's , let me know. when you own Cadillac dealerships, and places like Cox Nissan, we will talk. outside of that , try to give credit where it is due, and not reveal yourself to be such an indomitably ignorant reprobate.
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 12:30 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
The only thing you could brag is that 75% of black females are single mother and even though the black Americans makes 12% of the population they make the majority in prison. It is a shame even though Africans from africa who are decent and hard working people are a very small % compare to black Americans and don’t know the language as you are bragging. They got more business than black Americans in New York City. Yeah brag about that. You live in denial. Like I said before, people will rather go to shelter than live in black neighborhood and it is a fact. So sad brag about that you imbecile.
From: United States
i see where you declined the challenge from my prior posting. as to the statistics above: leave academic inquiry to people with the ability to analyse data. let's try this again: what do you offer as a counter to B Smith's restaurant? i am waiting!
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 12:44 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
yesterday you have to google for an hour to come up with one black american business. so you dont believe in those stat? lol i think we got a sharpton in the forum. so sad you cant defend it. one more stat. 7% of black american minor have one of their parent in prison. so sad before you start putting other people down look at your own first.
From: United States
if i correctly remember the events, you are the one who started the trend of putting people down. i have never put dominicans down, as you say. i am an analyst by training, and i criticise questionable initiatives. but, putting people down is for simple, untrained minds like yours, which are not evolved to the degree that they can understand statistics and data. you cannot even understand the relationship between economic stability and family composition. do you think that the amount of single family households is the same for dominicans from some barrio in La Vega and dominicans from a wealthy area like jarabacoa? do you think that single family households are the same in the category of people from which Colin Powell comes, as some ghetto in the south bronx? for a guy who claims to have a college degree, your mind is comprehensively underdeveloped. but, you are still young. go to school, and learn something. you do your countrymen a disservice
From: United States
By the late 1990s, however, this trend had changed, with poverty among Dominican Americans on the rise. With the growth of single-parent households headed by women, up 8.6 percent between 1989 and 1997 in New York City, public assistance was more heavily relied on. In 1997, a survey conducted in New York City by City College and Columbia University showed that 50 percent of Dominican American households had a woman at their head, while the poverty rate was 45.7 percent. The trend towards poverty was not sudden. In 1990, only immigrants from the former Soviet Union received more public assistance than Dominicans in New York City.
do you believe that the wealthy, educated , economically stable dominicans make up a portion of these people?
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 1:35 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
by dreadfull "i am an analyst by training, and i criticise questionable initiatives".
Hahaha hahaha a professional whiner. Amigo you live in denial that is the main reason why African American can’t solve their problem. You guys validate the al sharpton or Jesse Jackson or Jeremiah right of the world who always blame the white Americans for you guys problem and believe there is not a problem in the black Americans communities. . Once you guys confront your issue and accept your problem like AA who wants to get sober does. Then you guys can tackle the problem.
Don’t worry about us in NYC. From what I can tell you in New York we are a force. We own business everywhere now. The first generation of Dominican invested in DR for retirement there. We, the fruits of that generation are showing that we are a force to be reckoned with. And we continue to grow by the second. Where I got my business just this area in the Bronx we are almost all Dominican owner and proud.
Written by: josean, 18 Feb 2009 2:18 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Like De Nniro said "Analyze This!"
From: United States
josean, there is no psychiatrist alive who can analyse vacanos, because there is nowhere to start. he is an obvious retard, who should be confined for scientific study. he sets the bar at a new high for mental retardation and simplicity. poor, misbegotten soul.
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
You can forget about a healthy civilian paychek to keep an individual honest and doing thier job well. The traficantes have far more money to offer than the govt. or any normal business.
The employee must have a solid and decent foundation of beliefs and charachter to be reliable when it comes to dealing with offers of great sums of money. There seems to be a lack of moral fiber in the diets of many Dominicans.
If things don't begin to change here soon, we'll be giving Cartagena competition.
From: United States
easyrider, that is all i was trying to say in my post. then this numbskull started with his foolishness. it takes a special type of demented individual to believe that a bigger paycheck translates to higher moral standards. then again, vacanos is a special type of demented individual.
Written by: etiennc, 18 Feb 2009 3:06 PM
From: United States
vacanos , soon they will block comments for all articles due to the the prejudices laced of your comments.
keep it up !!!
From: United States
etienne, the moderator already has surmised that he is a retard. they attribute his remarks to a severe mental illness, and are just exercising patience. let him keep it up, so they will just ban him from the board. he contributes nothing meaningful, anyway.
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 3:27 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
etienc
the more these lacras talk bad about my country the more i will defend my country
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 3:29 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
dreadfull
as a human being you are the worst lacras i ever been encounter wtih. you seen to have all the answer for dr with your complain for everything yet i dont see you wasting any second to help your people. so sad
From: United States
vacanos, you would be well advised to tone down the racist remarks. a word to the wise is sufficient, capiche?
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 3:45 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
dreadfull
Here we go again now am being racist? How come am being racist. Omg I knew it you will bring it up when you about concede defeat. I told you from the beginning it have nothing to do with color. we dont distinguish color. We were talking about two group of people. The same way you feel about the Dominican people that they are not capable of doing thing I didn’t meant it as a race but the people like you living in the USA. dont go there
From: United States
first of all, i conceded defeat to myself when i engaged you in a debate. this is all my fault. my mother always told me never to debate an uneducated person, because it would just frustrate me. it is too late in the day to educate you, because you apparently do not have sufficient grey matter to make any sensible remarks. if you do not consider your remarks against a group of people to be discriminatory, racist, and offensive, then you are even dumber than i thought. that, in itself, is a feat. and never, ever, in a million years, can you match your mind against mine. there are powerhouses on this board whom i respect for their knowledge and lucidity. you are just a guy with the mind of a third grade dropout. the only reason why you think you "smoked me" is because you never respond to any data i post, only giving some racist non sequitur. begone, and get thee to school.
Written by: vacanos, 18 Feb 2009 4:12 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
dreadull
your elitist comment make me laugh look hahaha. when thing get tough everything is racist yeah i know that song. you respect the other foreigners who come here to make fun of us SO WHAT I GOT NO RESPECT FOR NONE OF U.
From: United States
apparently, you do not respect yourself, either. otherwise, you would keep quiet, and stop exposing your ignorance. remember: it is always better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth, and remove all doubt"
Written by: etiennc, 18 Feb 2009 5:15 PM
From: United States
vacanos ,the management of DT will soon block all posts.
By trading insults you bite the bait.
We all know the progresses that the DR with its president Dr L Fernandez has accomplished.
The facts are there for everyone to see .To those who insult your country all you have to do is to and big brother and help them see the light and the truth.
Those at the bottom like to pull down those at the top in order to move up.
Recognition and acceptance by provocation
DO NOT ALLOW ANYBODY TO TRAP YOU INTO JOINING THEM IN THE INSULTS FIGHT.
" As they say in creole " Pale mal se la prye jouda"
"Badmouthing is the prayer of the ungratefuls"
Heed my advice buddy !
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
It would certainly be more pleasant if the people that post thier coments here would chill a bit, stick to the topic and not waste loads of script and space trading punches.
Pa lante hermanos!
Written by: generoso, 18 Feb 2009 9:03 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
We are missing the big picture squabbling amongst ourselves.
The huge point is this:
I am watching a very carefully orquestrated and diabolical plan to discredit the Dominican Republic armed forces with the public through the media.
This has been happening for a few months now and it is starting to worry me.
Remember that the Dominican Republic armed forces are the only wall that is stopping the Haitian floodgates to open up bigger than they are now. Without them we might as well say "sayonara" to our country and citizenship. We will become Saint Domingue East and West, the real wish of our powerful enemies.
They did the same thing in Haiti to the military government of Cedras just before the invasion and dismemberment and destruction of the armed forces.
It is a meticulous and architecturally designed plan first to discredit the armed forces, then minimize their need, third, blame them for part of the country's ills, and fourth slowly disarm and dismember them. That is the plan.
Written by: josean, 18 Feb 2009 9:09 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Now Professor,
I have nothing but respect from you. So I must think you are teasing us with that theory or Rubi is holding gun to your head and making you type those words!
Sincerely your devoted but perplexed disciple,
josean
Written by: generoso, 18 Feb 2009 9:16 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
This technique was used by Stalin when his paranoid mind imagined that he was going to be double crossed by someone or a person became too popular or well know to take the shine away from him.
So he started his purges or annihilation of opponents like this:
1. First they were letters and published newspaper articles accusing the person(s) of any and all kinds of imagined crimes against society or the state.
2. Then the public outcry letters were published.
3. The person's credibility, morals or loyalty was questioned by the authorities.
4. The person was arrested and tried.
5. The person was sent to the gulag, where he was eventually killed.
The aim is to totally discredit you as a loser, a traitor, a coward, a pervert, an enemy of the state, a reactionary, a trouble maker, or a spy. And then when the public was convinced of those false accusations then you were arrested and killed because then you were garbage, a zero, a criminal and trouble maker.
Written by: generoso, 18 Feb 2009 9:18 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
And to arrest and execute a zero or nada is no big crime.
I am dead serious about this.
This technique was also used by Trujillo as well.
Written by: josean, 18 Feb 2009 9:23 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
But professor the Haitian Army is not capable of invading a nursing home full of comatose patients!
Written by: generoso, 18 Feb 2009 9:41 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
josean
My dear friend. The Haitian army does not exist anymore, we all know that. It was disbanded and their big weapons destroyed by the USA. The Haitian army is kaputt. But they are not the ones that
are going to invade us my good friend.
The C I VI L I A N S that are invading us now 2 million and counting, are the ones that as soon that they know that the coast is clear and the big bad Trujillo trained army is gone, then watch out!
and DO get out of the way because they will come in tsunami strength and run over all of us by the
shear force of their numbers and their nothing to lose attitude.
By then it will be like the floodgates bursting during hurricane Katrina and DR will drown with all the Haitians weighing us down with all their hungry open hands demanding food, shelter, and medical care and offering nothing back except diseases, chaos and havoc.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Sincerely your devoted but perplexed disciple,
josean ...................You pathetic boot licker
Written by: josean, 18 Feb 2009 10:16 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Professor,
Is green the color of envy or jealousy?
Written by: generoso, 19 Feb 2009 7:00 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
josean
Must I really answer that?
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
How is it that the topic went from the actual truth of the National Police and the Dominican Navy running Illegal Drugs, to the D.R. being invaded by hungry Hatians?
Not once, but many times these instatutions have been caught red handed!
If these individuals only loose thier jobs and have thier freedom which is often the case, they will continue to do the same deeds but with more vigor!
Written by: generoso, 19 Feb 2009 7:17 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
easyrider
What about the civilian heads of the government departments that supervise the military? Are they not guilty by omission?
Isn't the head honcho here the top banana over the military?
What solution do you propose?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
a Costa Rica type solution .....how about that ...all these military types and their chapitas are a throwback to the tinpot dictator era.....Get rid of them and have an efficient police force
Written by: generoso, 19 Feb 2009 7:42 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
GC
That was suggested a while ago and it does make a lot of sense as far as logistics and procurement.
Even in the states every separate branch of the military services has autonomy and even some their own weapons and equipment of choice, making standardization a panacea and a logistics nightmare to supply replacement parts and keep the different requirements segregated.
In the future it will come to just one security institution that has air, sea and land mobility and capability. But not as a "National guard" like Costa Rica with limited defense options in case of foreign invasion.
I would really be worried about an all powerful police with warplanes, ships and tanks.
In DR you need the balance of the different branches just in case.
Remember when Trujillo took over in 1930 he was chief of police but him and his officers had better weapons than his opponents. (In those days the 1921 Model Thompson .45 submachinegun with a 50 round magazine, the weapon of choice for gangsters.
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
Let these scum backs redeem themselves.
The government should impose a "Jail or Wall" policy with these narcotrafficantes and Banking thieves like Vivian and company. If they want their freedom, then make the pay for the DR-Haiti border wall with the stolen money.
All their assets shall be frozen and use specifically for the wall building so the money does not come strictly from the Dominican working people.
Written by: generoso, 19 Feb 2009 3:21 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
poponlaburra
If we are going to wait for these criminals to build us our wall, it will never be built.
The Haiti-DR wall is a great idea. We should copy the specs from the wall Israel is
building in Gaza, and motivate citizens to help and volunteer to build the wall in their spare time, and get the cement and steel companies to donate the materials.
Let's get the project started soon popon, Haitians are coming in with increased speed
lately because of worsening conditions at home.
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
Generoso, count me in. That is great idea! Maybe DR today posters like us can hold a wall design competition based in the Israeli's model. All posters can be the jurors? As a start point?
Written by: generoso, 20 Feb 2009 11:54 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
poponlaburra
Fantastic, but there remains an unanswered question:
We don't want to keep the illegals that are already here comfy in this side of the wall.
What do you suggest we do with them?
BTW I saw a video relating the ghetto conditions of the Haitian labor camps and it is modern day slavery. I had no idea it was that bad. No wonder the NGO's are attacking us unmercifully.
From: Spain, Ibiza, Minorca, Mallorca
Written by: easyrider, 18 Feb 2009 2:43 PM
From: DR
You can forget about a healthy civilian paychek to keep an individual honest and doing thier job well. The traficantes have far more money to offer than the govt. or any normal business.
The employee must have a solid and decent foundation of beliefs and charachter to be reliable when it comes to dealing with offers of great sums of money. There seems to be a lack of moral fiber in the diets of many Dominicans.
If things don't begin to change here soon, we'll be giving Cartagena competition.
If I were the moderator I'd put a lid on this thread; Brethren easyrider has succintly diagnosed the issues that plague our poor lost native brothers in uniform, in politics, and those aspiring to get rich quick.
This year will mark my 46 year in exile, and many in DR have always asked me when I visit:
Y tu no eres millonario? Con 'to ese tiempo que tu llevas en los paises?
"The love of money is the root of all evil."
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Prior to his duties in Puerto Plata, Then headed the Central Cibao Regional command based in Santiago, where he stood out for his work against organized crime."
JD isn't this the guy who has failed to clean up your neighborhood in Santiago?
The problem is that just like the department of corruption creates another toll gate to the corruptors,
and becomes inoperable.
Maybe if it were run by a private civilian entity run by foreigners or independent investigative corps it would work.
OK. But this is just the first step.
Now have them tell you how it works and with whom.
Oh and most importantly, you have to put them in jail for a long time.
Otherwise they will just start all over again and be more vicious.
These drug dealers/police/military are infecting the world and their own citizens. The same citizens they vowed to protect and serve.
If this government can't control it's law enforcement and military there will soon be a coalition formed that will be forced to come in and occupy this nation.
Unless someone knows of a better solution?
I am not posting any comments just reading and learning
I have my other half living in Puerto Plata , I go there 4 5 times a year ,all good news about Imbert Puerti Plata concern me
Get me informed.
good day
How come no one told me that? LOL.
That is good but still and due to the famous fraternal loyalty that all armed forces members have for each other, maybe they are more lenient than they should be and let things get out of hand.
The armed forces have to be more strict and law abiding than the civilian population and set their standards much higher than they are now, for their own survival.
Written by: dreadlocks, 17 Feb 2009 10:45 AM
From: United States
now that these guys have been relieved of duties because of complicity in drug trafficking, do we expect to see any indictments handed up, or do they just mosey off out into the sunset? if they just bugger off into another line of work, then it is a good risk to take. make tons of money, get fired, and go live happily ever after in San Francisco De Macoris, shining and washing the hummer all livelong day.
Does anybody know if the DR has a military prison like the USA's Leavenworth?
Then, the goverment should take away all the drugdealers assets and use the money to build the wall between DRt and Haiti. Put th edrug dealers to work by laying bricks.
Se falta la salsa ?
You miss cruz666, haitian1804
dominicanation and gang.
What an agent provocateur ,a pompomlachica !
how is my getho friend
a person with a BA in law will bring profesionalism to the job just as us federal agent qualification in the usa. A person who spent 5 or 6 year of his life working for a BA will thnk twice of losing that BA over centavos $20,000 is a super salary in dr. they will weight the consequense just like a nypd officer here who get on average $60,000 whether it is right to risk a super job over centavos there are some nypd here who had lost their job over some fake pulse at chinatown. corruption is everywhere what i proposed is a good initiative .
yes i agree with you.
the getho dude
There is not a person more ignorant and payaso in this Dominican forum than you. there is not a chance you want to miss to put down our country and when someone suggest something positive for the good of our country you are the first player hater in this forum to knock it down saying we are not capable. You are the typical ghetto from the project who knows everything but is too lazy to get up from the couch so you demand the handout from the govt and when the handout doesn’t arrive in time then try to rob a poor dude on the street. so sad
Your coming awfully close to child abuse again, be careful my brother!
The non-Hispanic native white performance is set at 100. I gave equal weight to each of the factors, which probably inflates the numbers on education and underappreciates welfare use (or a lack thereof). Nonetheless, the rankings certainly have face validity:
Rank Country of origin Merit index
1. India 145.6
2. Japan 139.0
3. Canada 133.2
4. United Kingdom 128.1
5. Germany 120.1
6. Former USSR 108.3
7. Philippines 108.0
8. South Korea 103.0
9. Iran 100.8
x n-H White natives 100.0
10. China 91.6
11. Italy 84.9
12. Poland 76.5
13. Vietnam 54.9
14. Colombia 54.8
15. Peru 48.9
16. Jamaica 43.4
17. Brazil 30.6
18. Cuba 26.0
x Hispanic natives 21.8
19. Haiti 15.3
x Black natives 13.2
20. Ecuador (13.3)
21. Dominican Republic (54.5)
go get someone to read that for you, nitwit. as for your assertion that blacks own nothing of economic worth: who do you think owns Essence Magazine, BET, GQ, Randy Moss Motorsports, Sean John, just to name a few things which have no equivalent in the DR community in terms of magnitude? you are pathetic, and clueless.
nice to see you giving cred to some of your people hustler like sean john and randy moss. i expected that you will bring some of you guys biggest thugs. i think you missed 50cent i think he own some water product also russell simon. i knew it you will bring thugs to back you up. so sad and then you dont want to sterotypes.
here is how we stackup in job creation by dominican business in usa expecially in nyc dominican are opening over 2,400 new business every month and increasing.
http://www.sba.gov/advo/research/rs334tot.pdf
The Blacks and the Dominicans
What is your ethnic origin?
Black ?
White ?
White Latino ?
Black latino?
Dominican ?
Indian ?
Arab ?
NEW YORK, NY (emergingminds.org) -- Carver Bancorp, Inc. (NasdaqGM:CARV), the holding company for the largest Black-Owned bank in the U.S. Carver Federal Savings Bank , today announced that it has completed the sale of $18.98 million in preferred stock to the United States Department of the Treasury in connection with Carver's participation in the Capital Purchase Program (the ``CPP'') of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.
of all latino nationalities, Peruvians, Cubans, and Colombians had the highest rates of home ownership with over 25% of each of these nationalities living in their own homes according to 2000 U.S. census data. Mexicans, Guatemalans, and Dominicans had the lowest home ownership rates among the Latino national groups.
black homeownership is 21.3 percent....hmmmm...
The study also found that Dominicans have the lowest rate of home ownership, 5.7 percent, followed by island-born Puerto Ricans, 11.6 percent, and mainland-born Puerto Ricans, 14.7 percent. The study found that 21.3 percent of native-born blacks own their own homes, as do 42.9 percent of native-born, non-hispanic whites. hmmm....
a few year ago the city sold about 120 medallion and it costed 450,000 not 600,000 as you stated. we may not be the leading group among yellow cab but we are number one among gipsy cab where dominican own most of these taxi company.
you dont have to live in apartment to be in the gheto try walking by gun hill there is the roots of backward manner people of the bronx just as newark or camden or bed stuy. most new yorker try to avoid the undersirable backward manner people. dont reject your people now imbecile dont be like the haitian govt wih the 30,000 haitian they dont want back to their own country.
From: United States
by gheto dude "besides, i have never lived in an apartment building in the USA"
Vacanos:
Dreadlocks is not from NYC; He's a Yard man; JA;
Jamaicka!
Ah foer mi Bredah that man!
I don’t have to go to Westchester to find my perfect house. I got my on Pelham bay right next to country club 50x100 lot. We all get along here just fine. White people are the most humble and sweet peoplei ever met. Sorry I can’t talk bad about them. Not only white people find black American undesirable almost everybody else. Try walking to a black neighborhood. It has nothing to do with color as you trying to imply but backward manner. as the saying go there go the neigborhood.
Like I said before we may not be the leading group with the medallion but we are numero uno gipsy livery cab. In fact we own most of these companies. Sorry to disappoint you, I got my own business. If I have to do it I do it is a decent job like any other. Those people work hard like the most Dominican in NYC to support their family they are not stealing you dummy.
do you believe that the wealthy, educated , economically stable dominicans make up a portion of these people?
Hahaha hahaha a professional whiner. Amigo you live in denial that is the main reason why African American can’t solve their problem. You guys validate the al sharpton or Jesse Jackson or Jeremiah right of the world who always blame the white Americans for you guys problem and believe there is not a problem in the black Americans communities. . Once you guys confront your issue and accept your problem like AA who wants to get sober does. Then you guys can tackle the problem.
Don’t worry about us in NYC. From what I can tell you in New York we are a force. We own business everywhere now. The first generation of Dominican invested in DR for retirement there. We, the fruits of that generation are showing that we are a force to be reckoned with. And we continue to grow by the second. Where I got my business just this area in the Bronx we are almost all Dominican owner and proud.
The employee must have a solid and decent foundation of beliefs and charachter to be reliable when it comes to dealing with offers of great sums of money. There seems to be a lack of moral fiber in the diets of many Dominicans.
If things don't begin to change here soon, we'll be giving Cartagena competition.
keep it up !!!
the more these lacras talk bad about my country the more i will defend my country
as a human being you are the worst lacras i ever been encounter wtih. you seen to have all the answer for dr with your complain for everything yet i dont see you wasting any second to help your people. so sad
Here we go again now am being racist? How come am being racist. Omg I knew it you will bring it up when you about concede defeat. I told you from the beginning it have nothing to do with color. we dont distinguish color. We were talking about two group of people. The same way you feel about the Dominican people that they are not capable of doing thing I didn’t meant it as a race but the people like you living in the USA. dont go there
your elitist comment make me laugh look hahaha. when thing get tough everything is racist yeah i know that song. you respect the other foreigners who come here to make fun of us SO WHAT I GOT NO RESPECT FOR NONE OF U.
By trading insults you bite the bait.
We all know the progresses that the DR with its president Dr L Fernandez has accomplished.
The facts are there for everyone to see .To those who insult your country all you have to do is to and big brother and help them see the light and the truth.
Those at the bottom like to pull down those at the top in order to move up.
Recognition and acceptance by provocation
DO NOT ALLOW ANYBODY TO TRAP YOU INTO JOINING THEM IN THE INSULTS FIGHT.
" As they say in creole " Pale mal se la prye jouda"
"Badmouthing is the prayer of the ungratefuls"
Heed my advice buddy !
Pa lante hermanos!
The huge point is this:
I am watching a very carefully orquestrated and diabolical plan to discredit the Dominican Republic armed forces with the public through the media.
This has been happening for a few months now and it is starting to worry me.
Remember that the Dominican Republic armed forces are the only wall that is stopping the Haitian floodgates to open up bigger than they are now. Without them we might as well say "sayonara" to our country and citizenship. We will become Saint Domingue East and West, the real wish of our powerful enemies.
They did the same thing in Haiti to the military government of Cedras just before the invasion and dismemberment and destruction of the armed forces.
It is a meticulous and architecturally designed plan first to discredit the armed forces, then minimize their need, third, blame them for part of the country's ills, and fourth slowly disarm and dismember them. That is the plan.
I have nothing but respect from you. So I must think you are teasing us with that theory or Rubi is holding gun to your head and making you type those words!
Sincerely your devoted but perplexed disciple,
josean
So he started his purges or annihilation of opponents like this:
1. First they were letters and published newspaper articles accusing the person(s) of any and all kinds of imagined crimes against society or the state.
2. Then the public outcry letters were published.
3. The person's credibility, morals or loyalty was questioned by the authorities.
4. The person was arrested and tried.
5. The person was sent to the gulag, where he was eventually killed.
The aim is to totally discredit you as a loser, a traitor, a coward, a pervert, an enemy of the state, a reactionary, a trouble maker, or a spy. And then when the public was convinced of those false accusations then you were arrested and killed because then you were garbage, a zero, a criminal and trouble maker.
I am dead serious about this.
This technique was also used by Trujillo as well.
My dear friend. The Haitian army does not exist anymore, we all know that. It was disbanded and their big weapons destroyed by the USA. The Haitian army is kaputt. But they are not the ones that
are going to invade us my good friend.
The C I VI L I A N S that are invading us now 2 million and counting, are the ones that as soon that they know that the coast is clear and the big bad Trujillo trained army is gone, then watch out!
and DO get out of the way because they will come in tsunami strength and run over all of us by the
shear force of their numbers and their nothing to lose attitude.
By then it will be like the floodgates bursting during hurricane Katrina and DR will drown with all the Haitians weighing us down with all their hungry open hands demanding food, shelter, and medical care and offering nothing back except diseases, chaos and havoc.
josean ...................You pathetic boot licker
Is green the color of envy or jealousy?
Must I really answer that?
Not once, but many times these instatutions have been caught red handed!
If these individuals only loose thier jobs and have thier freedom which is often the case, they will continue to do the same deeds but with more vigor!
What about the civilian heads of the government departments that supervise the military? Are they not guilty by omission?
Isn't the head honcho here the top banana over the military?
What solution do you propose?
That was suggested a while ago and it does make a lot of sense as far as logistics and procurement.
Even in the states every separate branch of the military services has autonomy and even some their own weapons and equipment of choice, making standardization a panacea and a logistics nightmare to supply replacement parts and keep the different requirements segregated.
In the future it will come to just one security institution that has air, sea and land mobility and capability. But not as a "National guard" like Costa Rica with limited defense options in case of foreign invasion.
I would really be worried about an all powerful police with warplanes, ships and tanks.
In DR you need the balance of the different branches just in case.
Remember when Trujillo took over in 1930 he was chief of police but him and his officers had better weapons than his opponents. (In those days the 1921 Model Thompson .45 submachinegun with a 50 round magazine, the weapon of choice for gangsters.
The government should impose a "Jail or Wall" policy with these narcotrafficantes and Banking thieves like Vivian and company. If they want their freedom, then make the pay for the DR-Haiti border wall with the stolen money.
All their assets shall be frozen and use specifically for the wall building so the money does not come strictly from the Dominican working people.
If we are going to wait for these criminals to build us our wall, it will never be built.
The Haiti-DR wall is a great idea. We should copy the specs from the wall Israel is
building in Gaza, and motivate citizens to help and volunteer to build the wall in their spare time, and get the cement and steel companies to donate the materials.
Let's get the project started soon popon, Haitians are coming in with increased speed
lately because of worsening conditions at home.
Fantastic, but there remains an unanswered question:
We don't want to keep the illegals that are already here comfy in this side of the wall.
What do you suggest we do with them?
BTW I saw a video relating the ghetto conditions of the Haitian labor camps and it is modern day slavery. I had no idea it was that bad. No wonder the NGO's are attacking us unmercifully.
From: DR
You can forget about a healthy civilian paychek to keep an individual honest and doing thier job well. The traficantes have far more money to offer than the govt. or any normal business.
The employee must have a solid and decent foundation of beliefs and charachter to be reliable when it comes to dealing with offers of great sums of money. There seems to be a lack of moral fiber in the diets of many Dominicans.
If things don't begin to change here soon, we'll be giving Cartagena competition.
If I were the moderator I'd put a lid on this thread; Brethren easyrider has succintly diagnosed the issues that plague our poor lost native brothers in uniform, in politics, and those aspiring to get rich quick.
This year will mark my 46 year in exile, and many in DR have always asked me when I visit:
Y tu no eres millonario? Con 'to ese tiempo que tu llevas en los paises?
"The love of money is the root of all evil."