Great they got back alive, heck why these peoples risking their live on high sea, have they not heard the news.

Well, I am so surprised!!! I heard that the economy was so bad in Puerto Rico and most of the US that boat people were taking yolas to go back to the DR. Anyway the lady getting off the boat looks pretty fat to me, she does not look seem to have any problem with food, either that or she is pregnant.

Come on G, you know better. The PR and US economy are truly in dire straits, no question but it is still comparably millions of times better than the economic climate in the DR. These issues are tragic, can you imagine the uncertainty of risking your life in the high seas. God bless them and their courage, no fat jokes necessary.

guillermone.... have the answer for you...
she is pregant and does not have a problem with eating 10 or 12 times a day....lol..
guess thats why the boat sank..... to fat lol.... dont ever rememebr any dominican staving to death do you?......
yes and they have to nuts to go any where now..... not many jobs around today.... and looking at that fat lady you know the only job shes going to get dont you?..... and no one is going to pay her more then $2 or $3us.... if that ...lol...

Why are people still leavening the PURPLE PARADISE? We are now a Super Power; we have 14km of subway!

HEY! DO REAL CAPTAINS DRIVE THESE YOLAS?.... they all seem to sink.... dont think they know much about the ocean or boats.....
it is a rough trip i know this.... but you have to be really stupid to get on board with some NUT JOB.... that tells them hes going to puerto rico..
capt don sanchez
key largo fl.

It seems that every article regarding Dominican "boat people" posted in this medium, is met with insulting and condescending commentary. Why would Dominican people feel comfortable or even obligated to cast aspersions on their own people. When did this become fashionable or appropriate. How is any of this funny, at all?

antonioj......Great they got back alive, heck why these peoples risking their live on high sea, have they not heard the news.

guess you need to be able to read the newspapers, or watch the news on tv., not just drink and go to discos, or cheer on the dom rep baseball players.... see whats going on in the REAL WORLD.... guess your right they did not know when got on the yola... express to puerto rico....

Dominicans know the risks & do hear stories of death & perils @sea. BUT, they make the cost vs. benefit decision from their poor conditions in the RD and then talk to thousands of relatives that DID make the trip & "SURVIVED" thus hoping their voyage will turn-out favorable. They know others in the US who'll help them.

Many negative comments (above) come from white folks who've forgotten their forefathers made this voyage to the USA with LESS than nothing but were able to come here, work & become land rich (taking from the Native Americans), starting large scale business with zero-costs labor (i.e. slaves) while keeping the profits!

How soon we forget! Reality Check!

Thank God this voyage had no or minimum tragedy. But what does this tell us of the ineffectiveness & corruption of the RD Gov and the growing crime state? The RD has very unsafe barrios infested with drugs (while US DEA agents in the Embassy @ la capital only watch porn via laptops).

UR tax $ at work!

Let's send all the Haitian we can to PR that way the Bull shark can experience a more diverse menu!

This is a human tragedy. Reading some of the callous and inappropriate comments above makes you really sick. Please have some compassion, for these are human beings whose desperate socio-economic situation has compelled them to risk it all.

Reference:: devin11, 3 Feb 2009 5:45 PM

I'll try to provide answer for my views for which have been previously labeled contemptuous. Though I sincerely empathize with those Dominicans who have been disenfranchised and alienated from the process to the point of feeling voiceless and impotent, ultimately leaving them with such a tragic choice. I cannot accept the supposition this is the best solution to the problem. If 1000,000 Dominicans awoke tomorrow and marched to the presidential Palace and demanded to be heard, demanded a stop to the cronyism, corruption etc, I guarantee this would serve as a wake up call to the Govt.

However such a march would be the product of a difficult and dangerous long term strategy. The truth of my my previous proposition is the fact that "long term" is not a concept that Dominicans are 'Willing" to implement as a focal point. This is seen in every aspect of Dominican society and life. Dominicans have been conditioned for the short term and for expedient results. Though they are very able, they are not "willing". Call it what you will. I say its lack of sufficient courage, tenacity and determination.

Dominicans are and have been relatively comfortable and privileged. If you argue this take a look at Zimbabwe, The Congo, The Niger Delta, Tibet, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Rwanda, The Sudan, Chad, Somalia, etc

Yes my criticism I admit is raw, and more times than not lacks sensitivity but it is verdure with sincerity, respectful and executed with the intention to incite and perhaps even provoke.

OndeVert, SHAME ON YOU to be talking like that about Haitians and to be so condescending about your own Dominican brothers and sisters.

Haitians are free people. They are scattered all over the world at will. They feel so free that they travel by boats, ships, planes, they cross borders and they use their voodoo power to separate their bodies from the souls and let their astral bodies fly and float wherever they choose to be in the cosmos. Haitians are the most free spirited people in the world.

Not in demeaning way, Dominicans are not as tough minded and enduring as Haitians. Just take for example the Haitians working in the batey.

I share the plight of the Dominicans depicted in this story. If they decided to take the chance in high sea and sharks infested water, it's because they want a better life.

I hope that they are ok. May God protect them.

From "Voice of Reason"

"Written by: Cruz666, 3 Feb 2009 10:23 PM
From: United States
OndeVert, SHAME ON YOU to be talking like that about Haitians and to be so condescending about your own Dominican brothers and sisters.
"
Do not waste any precious time with OndeKaKA, nadie lo hace caso, asi k no empiezes con el. Please do me a favor just ignore him just like all Dominicans and Haitians have done.

devin-No doubt it was somewhat insensitive of me to make a joke out of a tragic situation about our DR brothers or of any boat people that want to excape political or economic conditions in their country. However, I must say, I do have mixed feelings about them. Particularly when you see a well nourished person like the lady on the picture. I really question the motives. How bad can it really be in the DR that you are willing to risk your precious life? Many of these people pawn their belonging, sell or mortgage their homes and even borrow thousands of dollars to buy their way on a yola. With that very same amount of money, they could start a microbusiness, which will provide enough for their needs, wants and requirements. People in the DR do not starve. We have comedores economicos, that for pennies on the dollar a person can have a statisfying meal. Anyone willing to work will have enough to feed himself and his family. Though not the best example, just look at the Haitians as proof.

Illegal crossings into nearby territories is motivated by poverty, no doubt; but more so by the distorted and artificial portrayal of US prosperity. It the catalyst responsible for the unwise decision to travel the life risking Mona Passage. These poor people still believe that in America streets are “paved with gold” as the incentives which give them hope to become part of a consumer society. Propelled by manipulative advertising, they don’t understand that prosperity seen in media is wealth based on acquired purchases of expendable goods on borrowed money; a wealth based on a weak foundation, the ability and capacity to borrow and not on the actual dollar amount deposited and saved in a bank. Illegal immigration is fed by unrealistic expectations, anticipation of riches. It doesn’t help when returning relatives come back with flashy jewelry bragging about material accomplishments, when in reality all of the gold-filled chains are shallow and misleading status symbols of prosperity.

Reference:: guillermone, 3 Feb 2009 10:48 PM
Particularly when you see a well nourished person like the lady on the picture. I really question the motives. How bad can it really be in the DR that you are willing to risk your precious life? Many of these people pawn their belonging, sell or mortgage their homes and even borrow thousands of dollars to buy their way on a yola.
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Dominicans are and have been relatively comfortable and privileged.

True

Ladronaso,

I respect your opinion with regard to this subject and while I don't share your inference, I do not intimate that you don't have an equitable position. I don't know what value can be surmised from some of the sophmoric comments posted that don't in any way advance this debate. I respectfully believe you are being too presumptive to consider that your criticism can lend any provacative or inciting influence to people that cannot possibly be reached via that criticism. Other than being critical, what have you proposed or done to augment your conviction and help cease this life risking behavior in any truly tangible manner?

what's wrong with making a freaking joke!!!!!

some people overhere are so f***g sensitive.

what a load of crap.

anyway, i was told long time ago that if you're going to travel by Yola to PR better take two AGUACATES with you.

why?

para que los tiburones no te coman vacio.

jajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja

my bad

Guillermone,

Please don't tell me that you can make a life quality assessment of a person based on their picture. How can you possibly tell from a picture what duress or personal motivation a person may have? Perhaps her daughter is sick and she cannot afford the medicine. Perhaps her mother is dying and she is risking her life to provide the financial resources to send her to a private clinic. Perhaps she wishes for her son to get an education and is risking her life so that he may get what she never could. Why does she have to be made out to be a greedy, ignorant, and irresponsible fool? What do you see in the picture that makes you suggest your fanciful connotation?

Old School Trinitario,

There is nothing wrong with making a joke and I'm not trying to impose any moral injunction into this thread. I guess that if my mother or brother were lost at sea, I wouldn't find the jokes to be very funny. Tragedies don't usually make good punchlines and an "old-school-trinitario" would be counted on to know that.

How coincidental that Tonight at 9:00 PM /EST (ABC) broadcasted a program about Illegal Immigration into the U.S. In one of the segment the focused on a Coast Guard ship that intercepted 94 "Dominicans" attempting to reach western Puerto Rico; Of those 10 were detained in P.R. because they had U.S. warrants for their arrests. (How stupid can these people be?) In another segment a Dominican lady was detained at Logan Airport in Boston; She checked out ok, after a few minutes of questioning.
It reminded that not all of us are fortunate enough to have the 'priviledge' of travelling outside our native land, and then residing there; Yes, some want to join the Jet Set "gentes de los paises, los Nueva Yor'es". If they only knew? It isn't as easy as it seems. No streets paved with gold where I live. A whole lot of people getting locked-up for trying to become rich over night! At the same time I have brethren that have sold their biz and have returned to DR. Nobody's happy!

{Duplicate}

Devin I reject the notion of any implied presumptions on my part. My intent to provoke criticism is aimed at those who visit the site but prefer to remain silent. In regards to my contributions there is nothing that i can do to change the blight-full conditions of everyday life in Dominican Republic that would deter Dominicans from leaving. Dominicans leave the Island not because they need. a "Need" is a feeling of deprivation over the absence of some basic necessity for life. What they are suffering from is a "want"." I will spare you the rhetoric already littered on DT. You should already be aware these people pay a pretty penny to board these Yolas with the nimble promise of prosperity. It's not as if they are so economically depressed they cannot provide for there daily subsistence. This is BS.

devin in defense of guillermone and my argument, I don't know what is the extent of your contact or the intensity of your relationship with the Dominican people or culture but from what I have gathered I can surmise it falls very short of mine. Not to discredit or marginalize your experiences or interpretation of Dominican life, but I am Dominican and I travel frequently to Dom Rep. I know many Dominicans who have arrived to the states via yolas and via Mexico and have witnessed their confessions and in no way were these individual suffering from such strife that they needed to come to the U.S.. No they came because they wanted to come and they paid a nice pretty penny.

refrence:: ArsenioALembertJr, 4 Feb 2009 12:57 AM
How coincidental that Tonight at 9:00 PM /EST (ABC) broadcasted a program about Illegal Immigration into the U.S. In one of the segment the focused on a Coast Guard ship that intercepted 94 "Dominicans" ........................
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Several of the (94) individuals had been detained on previous attempts. The Captain was identified as a known human smuggler who was previously arrested and with outstanding warrants.

Ladronaso, First of all thanks for your congenial response, which by this forum's usual standards must be referenced for it's atypical paucity. The experience's that I reference with regard to "Dominican Life" are extracted from first hand accounts from traveling to the island, Dominican friends and acquaintances and most importantly, non-biased archival sources, such as The Center For Immigration Studies and others. There are over 20% of the population that live on US$2 a day. The social indicators for the DR are a notch below that of Sri Lanka. The Health and Education sectors reflect figures that are low by even the most penurious of Western life quality standards. These are factual and relevant figures and assessments, the validity and accuracy of which can not be contested. I have seen on a first hand basis people that live in these conditions, they exist in far greater numbers than you may recognize. They are not coming here because they are hungry, they are starved of hope.

I concur with devin though I'm late here, no (fat jokes needed) and like he said considering the state of our economy ours is 100 times bettter than in the Dominican Republic! Sorry the people who are commenting on this pieace should get some humanity lessons from devin. I am not Dominican but what I am is human and the jokes about people's weight here is down right disgusting. (where is the intelligence in here?) Some may say oh she's just upset because she is fat! wrong although I am not my ideal weight, I am neither fat!

I just want to reinterate my initial argument, that yes, though the general economic conditions in the DR may not be the greatest, it is not however so drastically bad that it would be worthy enough to risk precious life on a yola, that is my point (regardless of whether a person is fat or skinny). And although some people might feel that their only method of escape may be through illegal immigration, the vast majority of Dominicans that take the yolas are motivated by "WANT" which may be easily confused to need. That is why I have mixed feelings about the whole thing and I would "judge"each individual case on its own merits, then to have the same blanket feeling for everyone. Nevertheless, when a Yola incident turns tragic, my feelings are equal for everyone, to all the victims and to their respective families regardless of what was their motivation to an illegal crossing through the shark infested waters of the Mona Passage.

Ladronaso:

Your comment regarding the effect of a march on the Presidential Palace, or the Senate or anywhere really, is right on. However that would take work, forethought, and effort, things that are much harder to do than just say, "Give me, get me, I want, I need". Until we get a President who is willing to work for the People, rather than for the Pocket, we will remain a failed community.

Note the different discourse vis-a-vis these unfortunate undocumented migrants, and illegal haitian immigrants.

We should be more understanding of ALL human beings and the difficulties they face. Instead of persecuting and discriminating, we should engage and provide aid. We're a poor country, but we can help our own people and our neighbors only if we weren't so greedy. How much land do the Corripios, Vincinis, and the other huele-fundiyos own? What's our level of inequality in the DR? Maybe a little redistribution can reduce the need for our brethen to risk their lives for a better opportunity and reduce the tensions towards haitian migrants who, for the most part, come to our country to do the harshest of work.

devin11-"They are not coming here because they are hungry, they are starved of hope. " It is true and I agree, these people are starved of hope, but it does not justify the high life risk attempt to enter a US territory on a yola. I am totally against it and I do not condone it for any reason. There are always other alternatives, just as their are always other alternatives for a victim of suicide.

Yes devin11 that is exactly what you doing , your moral slate is in full display.
Fortunately for me I don’t take cue from fake and hypocritical statements.
You assume this big bone lady is trying to better the life of her children or to save her mother from illness, are this facts?, do you know her real motives to get on that yola?
I guess you have a crystal ball or you just using your moral judgement to criticized people’s comments. She could be a criminal fleeting justice also.

For normal people cracking a joke at someone misfortune is as old as water.
Pero por su puesto for a saint straight out heaven like you is an opportunity to show the world your catholic priest morality.

Jokes are born out of somebody’s failure, or shortcoming. Comedy is born out of a mistake, an error, inability to understand a concept.. or somebody’s existing state of failure that evokes sympathy.

no coja la vida tan en serio my friend, don't be so uptight, is not good 4 your heart.

here is a good one for you devin11
hope you like it.

My psychiatrist told me I'm going crazy. I told him, "If you don't mind, I'd like a second opinion." He said, "All right. You're ugly too!"

devin-"Perhaps her daughter is sick and she cannot afford the medicine. Perhaps her mother is dying and she is risking her life to provide the financial resources to send her to a private clinic. Perhaps she wishes for her son to get an education and is risking her life so that he may get what she never could." Now you tell me devin, do you really, really, really think that taking a yola is the best solution for the sick daughter that needs a private clinic or for the son that needs an education? How much better off would they be if the yola capsized and the mother drowns or is eaten by sharks? "Just weight the risks," you might say, life is far more important and outweighs any life threatening risks anyone would take, and you better believe that.

Old School Trinitario,

I regret that you consider my statements "fake or hypocritical" and more so that my personal feelings with regards to comedic effect for human tragedy makes me an uptight moralist in your eyes, I though it made me human. Cracking a joke at "someone misfortune", as you stated is hardly on parallel with joking about someone struggling for their life at sea while being violently eaten alive by a fierce and unforgiving predator. I'm not any better morally than you or in any other way, I just don't find the appeal or comedic value of such callous rhetoric. No "fake or hypocrisy" intended.

P.S. I liked your last joke, thank you.

old_school_trinitario, so you are the comedian/entertainer/cheerleader here. We should never take you seriously. right?

ref::: devin11, 4 Feb 2009 9:06 AM
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Devin I understand your concern for these people however do the stats report what is the real economic condition of these rater individuals? Devin, the captain has to be paid, and he is not going to do it for 2000 pesos. May 2000 dollars at the least, and a person who makes 2USD does not have the means of paying his way.

I beg to differ that it is, this 20% or greater boarding these yolas. These people on yolas are not impoverished or destitute people, they are opportunist. I will concede however to the reality of the immense poverty, as I have seen it and I have family that lives it, just the same I have family members that live quite comfortable. But this is the reality, “Too many Dominicans don’t want to learn how to fish they just want “you” to give them the fish.”

Don’t be fooled by the warmth and apparent genuine characteristics of our people. Too often numbers don’t give the complete story. Naiveté can be a weakness.

Guillermone, I don't know what situation exists in this ladies life that made her risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss. My point is that just as your assumption of want and greed may have been a contributing factor, the assumption that I made could have been just as valid. Because a picture cannot be used as an assessment tool as you first attempted. I personally don't feel that risking your life in the high seas is prudent or expedient but I don't live like this lady or am affected by her economic and social conditions. That is why I don't feel comfortable in judgement or ridicule of her and others in her plight, not because I'm a false moralist or hypocrite as old-school-trinitario would suggest.

Ladronaso, I can give you a daily account of people who would disagree with your assessment of my naivete or weakness, while on their way to lengthy prison sentences. I will ask you and trust the complete sincerity of your response, if a plane load of Dominicans were to fall at sea (god forbid) and those Dominicans were privaledged, although illegal and not coming due to any economic duress or hardship, would people be so quick to judge or ridicule them? Even if by your assessment that the yoleros would be coming for the same "want" and not "need" as the people on the plane. Is it easier to judge and ridicule the less fortunate and voiceless, for wanting the same things as the more affluent? I'm not trying to discount the merits of air travel versus a rickity and unworthy seacraft but I know the ease by which the downtrodden are comparatively viewed in a negative vein.

cruz,
no don't you ever take me seriously. you my friend are everything but Dominican and serious.

at least i'm honest with my views, i don't have a hidden agenda like you nor i pretend to be Dominican and understand dominian issues. I'm 100% Dominicano and I know how this yola bussiness work ( i have family members that lives in higuey)

some of this people that take the risk of getting on this yolas they know well what are the risks involved in this trip, first of all with the amount of money they pay to get in the yola anyone of this losers can start up a small business in D.R ( the average price tag for a yola trip gravitate between 35,000 and 45,000 pesos some goes as high as 75,000 depending on the promises the Yolero makes, example, safety, safe landing in P.R, amount of overboard motors etc, etc)

and Ladronaso is right when he states that most of this people that take this risk are nothing but vagos and opportunist people i will say 45%.

Some people have their illegal trip financed by relatives in the states that borrow the money from "prestamistas" and have to pay exhorbitant interest rates. Some others may have to accrue the money through the sacrifices of other local family members, for a piece of that future hope that may some day have them next in line for their illegal crossing. There must be a million sad stories of how people tried to get their "illegal trip" financed. Many more sad stories of how they ended up, I fail to see the humor, only the sadness. I am genuinely compelled by the collective sorrow and duress of any people who face these realities and for the sorrow they leave behind. Insert joke here.

Some people have their illegal trip financed by relatives in the states that borrow the money from "prestamistas" and have to pay exhorbitant interest rates. Some others may have to accrue the money through the sacrifices of other local family members, for a piece of that future hope that may some day have them next in line for their illegal crossing. There must be a million sad stories of how people tried to get their "illegal trip" financed. Many more sad stories of how they ended up, I fail to see the humor, only the sadness. I am genuinely compelled by the collective sorrow and duress of any people who face these realities and for the sorrow they leave behind. Insert joke here.( YOU should write a book, call it " Lo que la Yola se llevo " by devin11
a.k.a El LLORON.)

you are so sad you would make a fish cry.

On a lighter note, I have a very interesting anecdote to share with my fellow posters concerning yoleros. I have an acquaintance who came by yola in the early 90s. The guy told me the trip was hell and wouldn't recomment it to anyone. But here's where it deviates from similiar stories: My associate is a European looking Dominican with blond hair and blue eyes to boot. He related to me that when they landed on a puerto rican beach the coast guard were already on their tail so everyone scattered to the winds upon landing. My associate actually stayed calm as if he was just hanging out on the beach and in all the confusion and the authorities actually ran right passed him and left him alone! LOL Obviously preconceptions about what Dominicans are supposed to look like worked in my associate's favor.

Old school, your ignorance would make anyone cry, including fish, crustaceans, mammals and most plant life.
a.k.a. Failed_school_trinitario

devin-I agree with the comment that the point you made is just as valid as the one I made, however I do have a problem with how you glorified their actions to make them look like some kind of hero, "God bless them and their courage." Please understand, the bottom line, what they are doing is illegal, a disservice to themselves and to their own; It is a family-destructive behavior. Illegal crossings is an act of insanity, denial and ignorance. I feel sorry for them because an illegal crossing is just plain stupid. And what you should be doing devin is instead of being an enabler to the" yola people"and looking for justifications to your arguments and their actions, you should rather argue against it. Your words may convince and encourage them to continue with this destructive and maladaptive behavior. I have plenty of stories of people, who barely made it alive, were sent back and today are successful because they finally realized, the best option is to stay home and work hard.

devin11 you making progress my man, that was actually funny.

I'm glad you getting over your sadness, you're not going to change the world by crying dude.
don't worry be happy.

and another thing nowdays is not even dominicanz traveling by yola to P.R is a bunch of cubans and chinese people doing it. which makes a more diverse menu for the sharks.

devin11 check this one out:


My sex life is terrible, my wife put a mirror over the dogs bed. Actually she did put a mirror over our bed. She says she likes to watch herself laugh.


Went to a bar for a few drinks. The bartender asked what I wanted, "surprise me" I said, so he
showed me a naked picture of my wife.

I told my dentist my teeth are going yellow. he told me to wear a brown tie.


I'm at the age where I want two girls. In case I fall asleep they will have someone to talk to.

"I'm at the age where I want two girls. In case I fall asleep they will have someone to talk to. "

LOLOL...I think you got that one from goulet!..LOL

We really need to curtail the name calling. The thread was going quite well before the mud slinging. And though I stated Niavete It was not intended to insult anyone. Naiveté can also be an appreciable human quality.

i hope no insult was taken.

Ladronaso, No insult taken, I know that you and Guillermone are genuine people who desperately want the best for their island and it's people. We can agree to disagree and I thank you for your always respectful approach. Make no interpretation of ill will between myself and old school, I'm confident that I can speak for him as well as myself to say there is no resentment, just a little bit of back and forth, no harm, no foul. Thanks again.

devin::

This can easily become a sempiternal discussion and in the end we may still object to each others viewpoint, however. Notwithstanding this fact, I can only articulate the reasoning behind the compelling decision for someone to embark on such a journey with death blanketing the sky. It equates to a dangerous but “Convenient Gamble” , vis-à-vis, the alternative, A long bitter hardship on the island coupled with poverty and perhaps relative uncertainty.

same here
there is no ill will on this side of the CRT

besides i've been call worst names than that.

like when i was a teenager my friends called me cara de guira for all the pimples, I had plenty of pimples as a kid. One day I fell asleep in the library. When I woke up, a blind man was reading my face.

Ladronaso, I can see the validity of your position, with complete clarity. However, can you see that since we are not in the same situation as those facing these hardships and constrained prospects, we cannot quantify or surmise the desperation of commiting such desperate acts?

Hey great ending, we started out with a fat lady joke and now the thread is ending with a some good one liners. Anyway, It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings. If you got more keep going "old school trini" -

I see we have our very own Henny Youngman on this site...

Just wait until GC finds out that some people are out to take his day job...

"Getting on a plane, I told the ticket lady, "Send one of my bags to New York, send one to Los Angeles, and send one to Miami." She said, "We can't do that!" I told her, "You did it last week!" "

"The doctor says to the patient, "Take your clothes off and stick your tongue out the window". "What will that do?" asks the patient. The doctor says, "I'm mad at my neighbor!" "

"A man goes to a psychiatrist. The doctor says, "You're crazy" The man says, "I want a second opinion!" "Okay, you're ugly too!" "

Two drink minimum folks, two drink minimum!!

"A bum asked me, "Give me $10 till payday." I asked, "When's payday?" He said, "I don't know, you're the one who is working!" "

"Another bum told me, "I haven't tasted food all week." I told him, "Don't worry, it still tastes the same!" "

We need to laugh more and seek stress reducing humor in our everyday lives. Laughter is the human gift for coping and for survival. Laughter ringing, laughter pealing, laughter roaring, laughter bubbling. Chuckling. Giggling. Snickering. Snorting. These are the sounds of soul saving laughter which springs from our emotional core and helps us feel better, see things more clearly, and creatively weigh and use our options. Laughter helps us roll with the punches that inevitably come our way. The power of laughter is unleashed every time we laugh. In today's stressful world, we need to laugh much more.

LOL

good one cibao75, bum are a neverending source of jokes.

These two starving bums are walking through an alley when one of them sees a dead cat.

He runs over, sits down and starts to eat the cat, tearing the meat from its limbs.

He says to the other bum, "Hey, I know you're hungry, too. Why don't you eat some of this cat?"

"Hell no!!!" replies the second bum, "That cat's been dead for days, he's all stiff and cold and smelly!"

The first bum says, "Okay, suit yourself," and continues to eat everything, skin, muscle, guts, all but the skeleton.

A few hours later as they are walking down the street the first bum says, "Oh, I don't feel so good. I think there might have been something wrong with that cat."

And just then, he pukes up a huge puddle of rotten cat flesh and guts with stomach bile mixed in, all half digested and looking like mush.

The second bum sits down next to the puddle and says, "Now you're talkin'! It's been months since I had a WARM meal!!!"

"LOL

good one cibao75, bum are a neverending source of jokes."

As much as I would like to take credit I can't. Those jokes belong to the late Henny Youngman.

Disgusting trini...lol...tu no sirve hermano...lol

oh my god trini, that last one was too much, man !!! LOL

How do you make love to a fat girl?Roll her in flour and go for the wet spot.

A fat lady went into a jewelers shop and approached the glass counter to check out the merchandise and on bending down she broke wind,(farted) she was humiliated as all the other customers were staring at her.so she asked the assistant how much the watch was and he replied,madam if you fart when you were looking at it you will schitt yourself when I tell you the price

jajajajajajajaja

lol :}

I got my fill of jokes today
needless to say my job productivity hit a new low.

old_school_trinitario, I can guarantee you if you had a sister or brother in the boat, you would have never made fun of the Dominicans trying to escape poverty in search of a better life.

To be frank with you, you are disgusting.

I have a sense of humor too, but there is a limit to everything and a time for everything.

"The Voice of Reason"

Cruz if one of my brothers were on that yola he will be the one getting paid to transport suckers like you to PR.

Let me explain:

You would never understand what goes on with these yola trips, you know why?
Is on your DNA my friend, losers like you don’t understand what it means to take responsibilities for your own actions, feeling sorry for yourself is embedded deep inside your ethnic background.
If you think dying is better than the situation you’re living right now, so let the good lord have mercy on your soul.

There are plenty of fools where you come from.

i got one just for you.

Two morons stand on a cliff with their arms outstretched. One has some budgies lined up on each arm, the other has parrots lined up on his arms.

After a couple of minutes, they both leap off the cliff and fall to the ground.

Laying next to each other in intensive care at the hospital, one moron says to the other, "I don't think much of this budgie jumping."

The other moron replies, "Yeah, I'm not too keen on this paragliding either."


If you were orphaned when you were a child, I feel sorry for you, but not for your parents.

""""How do you make love to a fat girl?Roll her in flour and go for the wet spot.""""
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I chuckled on that one for a while.

"I chuckled on that one for a while."

As did I...you just had to..LOL

Refrence::: devin11, 4 Feb 2009 2:23 PM
Ladronaso, I can see the validity of your position, with complete clarity. However, can you see that since we are not in the same situation as those facing these hardships and constrained prospects, we cannot quantify or surmise the desperation of committing such desperate acts
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I agree, so therefore what would be the best barometer? I could say experience maybe. Though my comments may seem biased I am a very objective and a well balanced individual. I have been to many corners of this Globe. I have shoes that have more mileage than most of family and friends and god knows they have done much walking. Finally I would say that my statements are not solely based on my experiences but they are concoction of everything experienced including other peoples experiences. This is not to say that my statements have more legitimacy than yours. But then again, things aren't always what they appear to be.

ladronaso forget about "how you make love to a fat girl" HOW YOU DO MAKE LOVE TO ANY GIRL?

Carmen evidently you must have a bone to pick, a moronic epiphany or juts a simple Idiot Attack. I'd prefer to believe it is the first. I normally don't make it an agenda to get involved in vitriolic debates with females so I will ask, why attack me for agreeing with joke? If anything you should be attacking the originator.

Having said, if you have a bone to pick, state your argument or your issues and be done with it. If not, then I will accept that you had a simple idiot attack and I will disregard your impulsive extraneous statement.

old_school_trinitario, Those Dominicans who took their chance in high sea are not coward like you. You are stuck and you'll be stuck where you are for the rest of your life. At least these Domincans take charge of their lives and they take a risk. There is a level of risk in everything in life.

If you happen to see a yola by the coast, just give it a try. You never know. You might be successful. Have a nice trip & good luck!

"The Voice of Reason"

instead of the
" Voice of reason "

try

" The Blow Horn of Futility "

http://www.listindiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=90118

Thanks for the article. But take your chance anyway. You never know.

"Voice of Reason"

to all my people out their that have forgotten that overeating is not the only reason why people can be overweight. it is really upsetting to see that compassion is not something we dominicans have when we are legally in the united states. immediately you have a way to ridicule and give uneeded opinion about a persons weight or about their reasons for coming illegaly in to us territory. let me tell you that diseases like emphisema and thyroid diseases can cause a person to have weight problems for the rest of their lives. in the rd medicine is extremely expensive.

they dont have affordable health insurance. this makes it almost impossible for people who dont have family in the us that help them economically to be able to buy prescriptions that come so easy and cheap to some of us. some of the people that come here illegaly come because they dont even know what they are going to feed their children the next day in rd. ive witnessed how some mothers in rd have to beg to provide a 3 peos piece of bread to their children because places like the zona franca only pays 1000 pesos a week . and that has to cover the 2000 pesos they pay for the property they rent , 600 pesos for water bills, 500 pesos in light bills for light the hardly receive anyways 500 pesos in transportation 400 pesos for diapers if they have small children and 200 pesos a doctor visit for those that could afford it. im proud of my dominican people who dont care what they have to go through to provide for the ones they love. god bless my country were we never give up.

and let me tell you i am a citizen of the united states. but i wish some americans can go through one week of what dominicans go through on a daily basis. maybe some of us would think before we speak or write such unecessary comments about one of the most hardworking and loving people i know.