Official press agency reports on the meeting
Santo Domingo.- President Fernandez met with the Cuban leader Fidel Castro in Havana on Monday, and spoke on various topics, including the effects of the global economic crisis on Latin America.
“I had the privilege to speak with Fidel on and diverse topics yesterday, such as on the Dominican (Republic) and the crisis in Latin America," Fernandez said today, after laying a wreath in the monument to Cuban independence leader Jose Martí, according to the official press agency, Prensa Latina.
FILE.- President Leonel Fernandez will meet with Cuban leader Fidel Castro Tuesday afternoon, according to reports in the Dominican capital, although there’s no indication as to when he would see the convalescent Cuban leader.
Upon arriving in Havana yesterday, Fernandez stated his desire to meet with Castro, but clarified he didn’t know if it would take place because it depends on the Cuban protocol.
The chief executive is slated to meet with Cuba’s president Raul Castro at 5 p.m., when he’s expected to sign several bilateral agreements.
Fernandez is in Cuba on an official five day visit to participate in an international gathering of economists, who’ll dictate the conference Problems of Globalization and Development, in the University of Havana.
From: Afghanistan, BAF
I'd like 5 minutes alone with the old commie bastard myself....But Lionel will probably give him a hummer instead :(
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 4:14 PM
From: United States
The exact quote was Lie-onel Fernandez said he would be honored to meet with El Comandante Fidel Castro Ruz!
Written by: antonioj, 3 Mar 2009 4:31 PM
From: Canada, home safe
what is the point of going ?.... can he send his economic advisors---? there are better thing to do at home.
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 4:43 PM
From: United States
Leonel Fernández conversó con Fidel Castro sobre crisis en América Latina
"Tuve el privilegio de conversar ayer con Fidel sobre República Dominicana y diversos temas, como la crisis en América Latina", señaló Fernández este martes, tras depositar una ofrenda floral en el monumento al prócer independentista cubano José Martí.
Sobre el embargo comercial y financiero que aplica Estados Unidos a Cuba desde 1962, Fernández indicó que esa política "equivocada y fracasada" necesita una reflexión del Gobierno norteamericano y del nuevo presidente de EE.UU., Barack Obama.
http://www.noticiassin.com/www/in....ay_article&aid=2025&tid=5From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
The Mummy Returns
a film by leo productions
staring :
Leonel Fernandez as the treasure hunter
Raul Castro as the crazy medicine man
and Fidel Castro as THE MUMMY.
HOPLAAAAAA
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 5:18 PM
From: United States
Lie-onel Fernandez better not go to Miami, anthony c is organizing a protest as we post!
Written by: Edward, 3 Mar 2009 5:29 PM
From: United States, Faux News: Unfair Imbalance
Fidel Castro is one of my heroes!
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 5:33 PM
From: United States
Oh boy Eddie, your in deep doo doo know!
Written by: vacanos, 3 Mar 2009 6:15 PM
From: United States
hahaha fidel talking about economy global effect. what good can come out that parasite mouth. the faile state of cuba had been on economy crisis since 1959. sorry fidel the world cant spare any more bones to cuba failed state.
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 6:24 PM
From: United States
Why would Lie-onel Fernandez go to a conference in a failed state? Oh that’s right, he presides over one!
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Fidel this, Fidel that. Why can't someone call him what he is?
It reminds me of the Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale;
I question where's the little boy in Castro's story?
Who will boldly say: “But the emperor has no clothes!”
He is a depot, a narcisistic authoritarian egocentric tyrant that has opressed his people for way too long, and how many condone by giving him lip service. Someday they will all pay for stiffeling the freedoms and wishes of a whole island of captive people; Yet, calling good that which is represhensible.
Where's their sense of morality?
"No man is an island". Yet, Fidel thinks he's Cuba.....
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Let me simplify matters for some of his admirers:
If a dictator like Castro had happenend in our country after Trujillo was assassinated;
*There would never had been a Juan Bosch presidency, a triumvirate, a Civil War, a Joaquin Balaguer, a Jorge Blanco or Antonio Guzman, Hipolito Mejia, or Leonel Fernandez...
All these accomplices ( limpia saco, tumba polvo) who cotinually 'stroke" the beast of the Caribbean should seriously consider: What if this wise-guy would have been in power in my country? Would I applaud him? Would I be standing here feasting while the 'whole country" is on an imposed meager diet?
Caballeros, por favor re-capaciten! 50 years of me, me, me,me,me,me.....
Written by: anthonyC, 3 Mar 2009 6:51 PM
From: United States
Boy is the D.R. screwed now.
Your president is going to Cuba for economic advice?
Written by: Username, 3 Mar 2009 6:52 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Where are the people who are saying now for months that Fidel is dead? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiing!
From: United States, San Diego, California
What Fidel can do? Nothing. It has no power and his government is weak and unable to solve their own problems.
Written by: abc200, 3 Mar 2009 7:19 PM
From: United Kingdom
Great news - a meeting with a true visionary leader who has led his country to tremendous achievements.
S.
Written by: generoso, 3 Mar 2009 8:13 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
UPDATE:
The latest news:
Leonel also asked "El Comandante" to autograph his "Nike" jacket and gave Fidel another jacket in purple, some books, jeans and tooth paste he brought for the occasion as a present.
Mainly they talked about the world economic financial crisis and the World Baseball classic that the
Cuban baseball team poses as strong favorite. Leonel told Fidel that the Dominican team is lacking it's best players and many players did not want to participate.
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 8:14 PM
From: United States
The Lie-onelitas here at DT have failed to give a rational for their jefe's visit to Cuba Linda!
Written by: antonioj, 3 Mar 2009 8:18 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 8:14 PM
From: United States
The Lie-onelitas here at DT have failed to give a rational for their jefe's visit to Cuba Linda!
"
about boosting self ego
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
"Great news - a meeting with a true visionary leader who has led his ountry to tremendous achievements."
mr.alphabet could you elaborate a little more about such achievements.
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 8:27 PM
From: United States
Did Vincho Castillo and Cardinal Nicky approve this trip?
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
For me Fidel's greatest achievement was to take Cuba all the way to the brink of nuclear armagedon to satisfy his ideological masters in moscow. what a patriot.
and what did he get in return, a cold tablespoon of perestroika. ummmm que rico.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
the economy ....they should send Dread with the Magic 8 Ball
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Thank god Fidel is still alive, maybe some of what Fidel has will rub of on Leonel, that loser.
From: Dominican Republic
I second that notion
Written by: abc200, 3 Mar 2009 9:58 PM
From: United Kingdom
old Read report
If the whole World copied Cuba there would be no Global climate crisis:
With 0.2% of the world's population, Cuba accounts for 0.1% of global emissions - an average of 2.3 tonnes of CO2 per person. These emission levels are below those of Latin America and the Caribbean (table 4). If all countries in the world were to emit CO2 at levels similar to Cuba's, we would exceed our sustainable carbon budget by approximately 3%.
Only 3%!
http://hdrstats.undp.org/countries/country_fact_sheets/cty_fs_CUB.htmlCuba is a champion and leading the World in sustainablity and re-cycling.
It has turned round the US pillaging.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2000/410/23412S.
From: United States
Castro loves the Haitian people.
Is Leonel a communist?
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 11:02 PM
From: United States
No an opportunist!
Written by: generoso, 3 Mar 2009 11:17 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
josean
i see that you are back in fine form.
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 11:24 PM
From: United States
Thank you Professor!
Written by: josean, 3 Mar 2009 11:24 PM
From: United States
old_school_trinitario,
You have a right to your own opinion but not to your own facts:
"The U.S. will make a statement in the framework of the Security Council in reference to Cuba as follows: It will declare that the United States of America will respect the inviolability of Cuban borders, its sovereignty, that it take the pledge not to interfere in internal affairs, not to intrude themselves and not to permit our territory to be used as a bridgehead for the invasion of Cuba, and will restrain those who would plan to carry an aggression against Cuba, either from U.S. territory or from the territory of other countries neighboring to Cuba."
John Fitzgerald Kennedy the 35th President of the United States of America!
Written by: vacanos, 3 Mar 2009 11:38 PM
From: United States
"Thank god Fidel is still alive, maybe some of what Fidel has will rub of on Leonel, that loser. "
"I second that notion "
dont you love our commies living in capitalist country having all kind of privilege so they can bent their frustrated feeling against the system that is feeding them and giving then all kind of luxury. and those poor cuban having to clean their behind with tusa if they can find can only envy these commies throwing rock from the stand.
i really love these commies audacity.
From: Dominican Republic
You know whether you like it of not, we can learn a lot form Cuba. Look at the two forums I have posted.
No one can deny the facts, but as they come, they are going to spread the revolution.
I am planning a trip to Cuba to see what is what.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
dont come back please ....get your ration card and live large
Written by: josean, 4 Mar 2009 12:08 AM
From: United States
An Important Embargo Update!
The Costs of the Embargo
"The 47-year-old blockade now costs the United States far more than it costs Cuba.
Today, U.S. public opinion is turning against the embargo. A majority—52%—wants the embargo to be lifted, with 67% favoring an immediate end to the travel restrictions, according to the Cuba Policy Foundation (CPF), a nonprofit run by a former U.S. ambassador. Recent polls have even shown that a majority of Miami Cubans now support lifting the embargo.
These percentages might be even higher if the U.S. public were aware that the blockade is actually costing them more than the Cubans, something that is finally beginning to dawn on the U.S. business community. Representatives of a dozen leading U.S. business organizations, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, signed a letter in December urging Barack Obama to scrap the embargo. The letter pegs the cost to the U.S. economy at $1.2 billion per year.
Continued:
Written by: josean, 4 Mar 2009 12:09 AM
From: United States
The CPF’s estimates are much higher: up to $4.84 billion annually in lost sales and exports. The Cuban government estimates the loss to Cuba at about $685 million annually. Thus the blockade costs the United States up to $4.155 billion more a year than it costs Cuba."
This is a very interesting article read the full story at the link below:
http://dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0309pepper.htmlWritten by: vacanos, 4 Mar 2009 12:12 AM
From: United States
by gc "dont come back please ....get your ration card and live large"
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Written by: antonioj, 4 Mar 2009 12:23 AM
From: Canada, home safe
where is my ration card at "pelasito de puerco con frijole y 2 huevos" no hay detergente ,nada
al rescate asere, por la yuma vamos
Written by: josean, 4 Mar 2009 12:33 AM
From: United States
From: Dominican Republic
Josean thank you for the article.
Beyond the economic costs, the blockade has deprived U.S. citizens of Cuba’s medical breakthroughs. Cuba has developed the first meningitis B vaccine; cures for the eye disease retinitis pigmentosa; a preservative for un-refrigerated milk; and PPG, a cholesterol-reducing drug gobbled up by foreigners for its side effect: increased sexual potency. And last summer Cuba released CimaVax EGF, the first therapeutic vaccine for lung cancer. The drug triggers an immune response that extends life in lung cancer patients and can ease breathing and restore appetite.
Written by: abc200, 4 Mar 2009 1:10 AM
From: United Kingdom
Who in the sane World thinks Cuba is mad and US sane!
No-one. No-one supports US Cuba embargo - they just send more tourists!
US has gone mad - still is mad over Cuba issue!
Stupid brain dead posters support US over Cuba!
The US is still ruled by a crazy rich non-democractic elite -their current puppy is Obama - even thinks globalisation is good! Indians make toys for US instead of houses for their people!
S.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
Per-capita-wise, Cuba qualifies as the world's biggest debtor nation with a foreign debt of close to $50 billion, a credit rating nudging Somalia's, and an uninterrupted record of defaults.
Written by: josean, 4 Mar 2009 5:39 AM
From: United States
Just "Whistling past the graveyard!"
Written by: antonioj, 4 Mar 2009 5:48 AM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: josean, 4 Mar 2009 5:39 AM
From: United States
Just "Whistling past the graveyard!"
"
about some sleep first
Written by: josean, 4 Mar 2009 5:50 AM
From: United States
Pepe your the man!
"While several Cuban-American members of Congress oppose dismantling the Cuba embargo, Francisco "Pepe" Hernandez, President of the Cuban American National Foundation, a leading Miami-based Cuban exile group, said he favored a new policy.
"We saw a lot of tough talk during the last administration, tough talk and doing nothing, like waiting for snow in Havana," he said."
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reute....RTRIDST_0_USA-CUBA-BROOKINGS.htmlFrom: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
In this years' Index of Economic Freedom, The Heritage Foundation ranks Cuba as more economically repressive under Raul than under Fidel. Under Raul's (nominal) rule, Cuba slipped down 1.1 notches to number 155 where it ranks almost neck to neck with North Korea.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
Pay up if you wanna play ......
During the summer of 1960 Castro's KGB-trained security forces stormed into 5,911 U.S owned businesses in Cuba and stole them all at Russian gunpoint -- $2 billion were heisted from outraged U.S. businessmen and stockholders. Much of this stolen U.S. property was then occupied by Canadian and European companies (many of the same Europeans still waxing indignant about the Nazi looting of some of their their properties, by the way.)......hypocrites and appeasers
Written by: Lautaro, 4 Mar 2009 10:05 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Haitian_Liberator_No1 said: "Castro loves the Haitian people."
He only loves them from a distance (or as some would say "at arms lenght", just as the DR does). Cuz' if he would love them, he would not send them back to Haiti so dilligently every time the haitian boatpeople so much as set foot on the island (more often than not by mistake). He's sending the teachers and medical personnel to that country only to win brownie points with African Americans, which has been always a useful tactic on his war against the US establishment and the cuban exiles if you were to look to his wholesale support of the Black Panthers and other black separatist groups on US soil, despite their never acknowledging themselves as communist or even having a mildly socialist agenda.
Written by: generoso, 4 Mar 2009 10:13 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
I am all for easing the outdated embargo on Cuba which in the opinion of persons inside and outside Cuba, does more harm than good.
Still there has to be some kind of "quid pro quo" from the Cuban government and face and negotiate
the rightful claims of the many businesses and banks that were nationalized, and the many international
financial claims that are pending to be resolved.
The terrible credit history and payment reputation of the Cuban government, is known to many businessmen outside Cuba, who have done business there, and is only the fault of Cuba's leaders.
If Cuba is to come back to the fold, then they should pay up the rightful claims from the confiscation of property and businesses that were unjustly done in the past. If they have no money to do so then they should return the properties and pay just compensation with government bonds or some other form of payment.
Cuba has to understand they must be responsible for their past actions and face the music.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
During the summer of 1960 Castro's KGB-trained security forces stormed into 5,911 U.S owned businesses in Cuba and stole them all at Russian gunpoint -- $2 billion were heisted from outraged U.S. businessmen and stockholders
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
Pay up you bunch of welchers .....its cash and carry
Written by: abc200, 4 Mar 2009 11:06 AM
From: United Kingdom
Cuba should pay nothing. When a new government takes over in a revolution nothing is owed - French Revolution, Russian Revolution, China , Vietnam etc. etc. It is a discontinuity in history and property rights start afresh. A revoluion is one of the risks investors etc. take and they get good reward for taking this risk. A case can be made, as in Vietnam, for small family owned plots to be leased to the family who origionally owned the property at low rent. Settlers wrought revolution on the settled communities of Indians in America. Little or no compensation was paid. So as usual there are brain dead posters .......
S.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
they will pay not to worry wanker they will pay ....why dont you take your @ss over there and start selling commie condos your old contacts when you were a stooge for the STASI should come in handy...get your ration card and get in line for your bowl of rice and if your lucky some spam
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
To proof your ideological loyalty to the Cuban Government you must do as follow.
1-Move from your fully loaded and entirely furniture home in the U.S with all the modern technology at your fingertips to a crumble old Havana apartment.
2-Get a computer (good luck with that)
3-Try to find an unfiltered internet connection (good luck with that)
4-Start your own business.
5-Whenever you feel like eating a stake or a lobster tail go to the market and get one
6-Talk freely to people on the street about politics and your world views, since you coming from the outside you should have a lot to talk about considering that Cubans get their news from the GOV and they don’t know jack shitzz about what’s going on, just don’t deviate from the government line or you’ll find yourself on a mental institution
7-Openly discuss who you think is the best candidate for the job on the incoming elections
And why Fidel appointee is not fit to lead
8-Report back to this forum in two years and share
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
get a ration card and live large
Written by: vacanos, 4 Mar 2009 11:43 AM
From: United States
why will the usa govt set its citizen for failure? i just dont get it with these commies. why will they lift the embargo allow their citizen to invest in cuba and then one day the cuba govt confiscate everything. had the world gone mad?
Written by: abc200, 4 Mar 2009 7:12 PM
From: United Kingdom
Written by: abc200, 4 Mar 2009 7:24 PM
From: United Kingdom
restaurant in London.....
http://www.cubana.co.uk/Part owned by Fidel it is said. So while US government deprives you of good mountain coffee, Cuban rum and cigars - others enjoy...
And try not to be so totally ignorant ...
Against stupidity the very gods Themselves contend in vain
Schiller
S.
Written by: abc200, 4 Mar 2009 9:30 PM
From: United Kingdom
I wold not sell timeshare! I specialize in Eco-Sustainability & Ecological Services Assessment.
My new venture is exciting international interest.
S.
Written by: abc200, 5 Mar 2009 9:14 AM
From: United Kingdom
There are many dramatic opportuntites out threre with huge profit potential in my chosen field I assure you. Now we are in a period of sustained growth in the eco fields..... Thank you for your interest in this exceptional venture. Meanwheile back to the important things . everyone is heeping praise the the gastronomic venture here Mi Curozon.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restau....Peninsula_Dominican_Republic.htmlOne of the premier restaurants of the Caribb and fortunately within a few metres of ......
S.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
premier restaurants of the Caribbean what could you possibly know about that ? a jumbo at the chimi is your speed.....Branson said you did a lousy job washing his Bentley
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
Written by: generoso, 5 Mar 2009 9:35 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
GC2
Very funny clip, that was a great movie. I sent to all my German speaking friends.
From: Canada, Toronto ,Cabbagetown,Parliament and Gerrard
Written by: generoso, 5 Mar 2009 10:02 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
GC2
I saw it and I lived it when I was in the corporate rat race! Very funny and sad at the same time, brought back some memories specially the guy picking his feet.LOL.
From: United States, (on Sabbatical)
Written by: vacanos, 4 Mar 2009 11:43 AM
From: United States
why will the usa govt set its citizen for failure? i just dont get it with these commies. why will they lift the embargo allow their citizen to invest in cuba and then one day the cuba govt confiscate everything. had the world gone mad?
Speaking of nationalization (a commie m.o.);
Commrade Chavez just nationalized a Rice Producing company:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7925174.stmWritten by: abc200, 5 Mar 2009 1:18 PM
From: United Kingdom
I don't think many people got burned in RE - most values are up over a 5 year period and there's alwasy rental income. Certainly land values have risen throughout the Caribb...
S.
Written by: abc200, 5 Mar 2009 6:12 PM
From: United Kingdom
Friends here have just had property re-assessed - propery values up 33 % from two yaras ago.
Hardly suprising a 5 million dollar property in Florda sells for just 1.5 million here. And few taxes!
S.
Written by: abc200, 5 Mar 2009 8:57 PM
From: United Kingdom
Drivel no - way you s...... i.... Prices rise as people escape US!
S.
Written by: josean, 6 Mar 2009 10:25 AM
From: United States
Written by: generoso, 6 Mar 2009 11:47 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
Almost everybody agrees the US should lift the embargo, more so heavy agricultural states like
Idaho who will benefit from the easing of restrictions.
The caveat here is that the Cubans will probably want credit as well in the future and that could be dangerous to suppliers than are not prudent as the Cuban payment history is terrible.
As a leader Leonel gained from his meeting with Fidel as he exploited the fascination that Fidel has for politicians worldwide, mostly because of his long continuation and hold on power.
His dictatorship was passed on to his brother, as a family hereditary legacy, now I ask myself, is there a son
in the shade awaiting to carry on the family business?
Written by: josean, 6 Mar 2009 2:19 PM
From: United States
You mean like Balaguer to Lie-onel?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
U.S. fugitives in Cuba wary of closer ties that could lead to deportation
Thaw in relations with U.S. could open doors for return
March 8, 2009
Havana - Times could be uncertain for the more than 70 American fugitives hiding out in Cuba.
Some have enjoyed lives as celebrity revolutionaries in the tropics. Many paraded around town, telling war stories and being hailed as heroes who stood up to "the Empire." But their fate is unclear after a change in administrations on both sides of the Florida Straits.
"Who knows how untouchable anybody is," said Vicki Huddleston, head of the U.S. Interests Section in Havana from 1999 to 2002. "Raul Castro's government is extremely pragmatic."
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
America sold 710 million in food products last year to Cuba ..Cash and carry ....they stiff everybody else just ask the Canucks
Written by: generoso, 8 Mar 2009 8:39 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
GC
Have a friend that was buying fish products from Cuba and he related some horror stories.
They will never pay you a credit due on a overpayment or a shipment that was short because they "don't have the mechanisms" to do so.
So dealing with Cuba the motto should be "caveat emptor" or let the buyer beware.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
cash and carry ...they are famous welchers
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 8:53 AM
From: United States
Professor,
Other than right wing Miami Gusano Mafia GOSSIP, could you provide a link to an objective source that would verify the CUBANS deadbeat status?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
josean wants to give the Cubans a high credit rating hahaha you dont have to look very far for yourself they are famous welchers ...google it hahahah.....gossip ?....hahahah
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
last year 710 million cash and carry .......this year will be much more ....cash and carry...what embargo ?
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 9:01 AM
From: United States
"Who knows how untouchable anybody is," said Vicki Huddleston, head of the U.S. Interests Section in Havana from 1999 to 2002. "Raul Castro's government is extremely pragmatic."
The US and Cuba could exchange these want fugitives; a good faith gesture would be by returning
Luis Posada Carriles!
"Two of his employees planted C-4 explosives in a tube of toothpaste on a Cuban airliner departing Barbados; the bomb exploded and all 73 people on board were killed."
Read on:
http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/14033....al_Terrorist_Luis_Posada_CarillesFrom: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Under the leadership of Hernandez, Cuba has become the third most important importer of Basque products in Latin America, after Mexico and Brazil.
Representatives of the Basque government tried to travel to Cuba to find out why Hernandez had been arrested, but the Cuban embassy in Spain told them that "this was not a good moment" for them to visit.
Basque authorities then tried to find information about Hernandez by contacting officials of the Cuban government but they have not responded to their inquiries.
This should serve as a warning to all those American companies that are desperate to do business with an unlawful regime, where the law of the land is whatever the dictator decides.
It is equivalent to doing business with the Mafia, and on top of that they do not pay their bills. Read more (In Spanish)
Written by: generoso, 8 Mar 2009 9:11 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
josean
Believe me or ask any Dominican businessmen that has done trade with Cuba either exporting to them or buying from them, and they will all tell you the same story.
They would screw their mother if they could, I mean I had friends that use to go buy cigars right from the factory showrooms and they were sold fakes out of a parking lot outside.
You order a sandwich in a hotel and they have home made sandwiches that they brought to work and sell if you are a cash paying customer.
When you buy container loads of products you might not get everything you ordered and if you make the mistake of extending credit, might as well donate the goods to them, because they have all kinds of foreign currency restrictions and will never pay you, even if they had good intentions.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
surely you are exaggerating these thousands of stories about the Cuban welchers could not all be true ....could they ? ....yes .....cash and carry only
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
cash and carry ....it wont be long down the shoot for the old geezers....VIVA CUBA LIBRE
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Hernandez has been the director in Cuba of SPRI (Association for the Promotion of Industry), since Basque companies began operating in Cuba in 1998.
At the end of 2008, SPRI had been involved in more than 100 projects by Basque companies in Cuba and represented approximately 40 companies currently operating in the island.
Hernandez, who is a Cuban citizen, was a close friend of Carlos Lage the Cuban vice president who was purged this week.
According to sources in the Basque Government, Hernandez was arrested when he tried to leave Cuba for Spain, where he was supposed to attend several conferences with business executives of companies represented by SPRI.
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 9:23 AM
From: United States
Professor,
If it is so horrible and risky to do business with these "horrible" Cubans then why did your friends got there in the first place: Since it is so internationally known that the Cubans are unscrupulous business partners?
Like 2+2 is not = to 4 here, if you know what I mean.
It would seem to me the Cuban government would have collapsed immediately after the Soviet Union especially with these type of business practices.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
nice place to do business .....cash and carry ....710 million trade with US look it up ....what embargo ?
Written by: generoso, 8 Mar 2009 9:31 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
josean
Don't be so naive, my friends went there looking for bargains like everybody else.
Antique furniture was bought for pennies on the dollar but you had to be there and put in the container personally or some items would disappear.
Same with Cuban paintings of renown artists, and art objects.
Cuban fish industries are famous for their high quality and export to many sophisticated markets,
the same with Cuban rum and cigars are still rated the best in the world.
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 9:36 AM
From: United States
OK so in the normal haggle of trade which occurs everywhere else in the world one side was trying to seek advantage over the other.
I understand now!
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
The legislation before us today, would extend credit, through the U.S. banking system to Cuba, a nation that recently disclosed it owes more than $29 billion to the Paris Club - a debt they stopped making payments on back in the 1980s.
In its current financial situation, Cuba ranks second on the list of the world's most indebted nations.
Cuba's appalling credit history and chronic failure to pay its debts also raises serious questions about the effort to extend credits at a time when U.S. taxpayers are being saddled with the price tag of the economic recovery.
It's appalling the U.S. would consider liberalizing trade with Cuba at the same time that we deny better trade relations with some of our strongest allies in the hemisphere.
Written by: abc200, 8 Mar 2009 9:49 AM
From: United Kingdom
The revolution lives on with all the pundits every year expecting its death. The Cubans think they are lucky compared with Hatians and the slum dwellers in Rio, or even US citizens living in tents and eating food stamp food....... There is a small industry of Hacks funded by corrupt US MNC's trying to play down the success of the revolution.
http://www.workers.org/2009/world/cuban_revolution_0115/DR president praises Cuba:
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In Cuba, Fernandez praised the country's educational models, and also proposed that the Enrique Jose Varona Higher Education Institute sign agreements with the Dominican Teachers Association that consists of teachers working at public schools. The proposal was welcomed by center director Alfredo Mateo Diaz Fuentes
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from DR1. today.
Some Cuban educational expertise may be transferred to DR!
S.
Written by: josean, 8 Mar 2009 9:50 AM
From: United States
Source: Alpha 66 (almost comatose) Veterans!
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
the commie wanker posting from his refer box in LT ......leave those tourists alone they dont want to buy any of your timeshare cheeseball condos......and sober up it is the Lords Day....one day of praying and six of drunkenness your odds of getting to heaven 6 to 1
Written by: abc200, 8 Mar 2009 10:11 AM
From: United Kingdom
GC get back to your throne with its distorting mirrors - have a few more halucinations on your lifelong magic mushroom trip. You never know your broken down TV's might get Cuban television - but you prefer the blank screens of Andromeda TV...... civilisation has been dead for 300 years ever since the founding of the US. Fools are without number - Erasmus.
S.
Written by: josean, 9 Mar 2009 12:00 AM
From: United States
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"Tuve el privilegio de conversar ayer con Fidel sobre República Dominicana y diversos temas, como la crisis en América Latina", señaló Fernández este martes, tras depositar una ofrenda floral en el monumento al prócer independentista cubano José Martí.
Sobre el embargo comercial y financiero que aplica Estados Unidos a Cuba desde 1962, Fernández indicó que esa política "equivocada y fracasada" necesita una reflexión del Gobierno norteamericano y del nuevo presidente de EE.UU., Barack Obama.
http://www.noticiassin.com/www/in....ay_article&aid=2025&tid=5
The Mummy Returns
a film by leo productions
staring :
Leonel Fernandez as the treasure hunter
Raul Castro as the crazy medicine man
and Fidel Castro as THE MUMMY.
HOPLAAAAAA
It reminds me of the Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale;
I question where's the little boy in Castro's story?
Who will boldly say: “But the emperor has no clothes!”
He is a depot, a narcisistic authoritarian egocentric tyrant that has opressed his people for way too long, and how many condone by giving him lip service. Someday they will all pay for stiffeling the freedoms and wishes of a whole island of captive people; Yet, calling good that which is represhensible.
Where's their sense of morality?
"No man is an island". Yet, Fidel thinks he's Cuba.....
If a dictator like Castro had happenend in our country after Trujillo was assassinated;
*There would never had been a Juan Bosch presidency, a triumvirate, a Civil War, a Joaquin Balaguer, a Jorge Blanco or Antonio Guzman, Hipolito Mejia, or Leonel Fernandez...
All these accomplices ( limpia saco, tumba polvo) who cotinually 'stroke" the beast of the Caribbean should seriously consider: What if this wise-guy would have been in power in my country? Would I applaud him? Would I be standing here feasting while the 'whole country" is on an imposed meager diet?
Caballeros, por favor re-capaciten! 50 years of me, me, me,me,me,me.....
Your president is going to Cuba for economic advice?
S.
The latest news:
Leonel also asked "El Comandante" to autograph his "Nike" jacket and gave Fidel another jacket in purple, some books, jeans and tooth paste he brought for the occasion as a present.
Mainly they talked about the world economic financial crisis and the World Baseball classic that the
Cuban baseball team poses as strong favorite. Leonel told Fidel that the Dominican team is lacking it's best players and many players did not want to participate.
From: United States
The Lie-onelitas here at DT have failed to give a rational for their jefe's visit to Cuba Linda!
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about boosting self ego
mr.alphabet could you elaborate a little more about such achievements.
and what did he get in return, a cold tablespoon of perestroika. ummmm que rico.
If the whole World copied Cuba there would be no Global climate crisis:
With 0.2% of the world's population, Cuba accounts for 0.1% of global emissions - an average of 2.3 tonnes of CO2 per person. These emission levels are below those of Latin America and the Caribbean (table 4). If all countries in the world were to emit CO2 at levels similar to Cuba's, we would exceed our sustainable carbon budget by approximately 3%.
Only 3%!
http://hdrstats.undp.org/countries/country_fact_sheets/cty_fs_CUB.html
Cuba is a champion and leading the World in sustainablity and re-cycling.
It has turned round the US pillaging.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2000/410/23412
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Is Leonel a communist?
i see that you are back in fine form.
You have a right to your own opinion but not to your own facts:
"The U.S. will make a statement in the framework of the Security Council in reference to Cuba as follows: It will declare that the United States of America will respect the inviolability of Cuban borders, its sovereignty, that it take the pledge not to interfere in internal affairs, not to intrude themselves and not to permit our territory to be used as a bridgehead for the invasion of Cuba, and will restrain those who would plan to carry an aggression against Cuba, either from U.S. territory or from the territory of other countries neighboring to Cuba."
John Fitzgerald Kennedy the 35th President of the United States of America!
"I second that notion "
dont you love our commies living in capitalist country having all kind of privilege so they can bent their frustrated feeling against the system that is feeding them and giving then all kind of luxury. and those poor cuban having to clean their behind with tusa if they can find can only envy these commies throwing rock from the stand.
i really love these commies audacity.
No one can deny the facts, but as they come, they are going to spread the revolution.
I am planning a trip to Cuba to see what is what.
The Costs of the Embargo
"The 47-year-old blockade now costs the United States far more than it costs Cuba.
Today, U.S. public opinion is turning against the embargo. A majority—52%—wants the embargo to be lifted, with 67% favoring an immediate end to the travel restrictions, according to the Cuba Policy Foundation (CPF), a nonprofit run by a former U.S. ambassador. Recent polls have even shown that a majority of Miami Cubans now support lifting the embargo.
These percentages might be even higher if the U.S. public were aware that the blockade is actually costing them more than the Cubans, something that is finally beginning to dawn on the U.S. business community. Representatives of a dozen leading U.S. business organizations, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, signed a letter in December urging Barack Obama to scrap the embargo. The letter pegs the cost to the U.S. economy at $1.2 billion per year.
Continued:
This is a very interesting article read the full story at the link below:
http://dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0309pepper.html
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
al rescate asere, por la yuma vamos
Fascinating report on Cuba's potential for significant oil production!
No wonder Lie-onel Fernandez is in Cuba trying to butter up the Castro brothers!
http://www.usnews.com/articles/ne....-discoveries-might-come-true.html
Beyond the economic costs, the blockade has deprived U.S. citizens of Cuba’s medical breakthroughs. Cuba has developed the first meningitis B vaccine; cures for the eye disease retinitis pigmentosa; a preservative for un-refrigerated milk; and PPG, a cholesterol-reducing drug gobbled up by foreigners for its side effect: increased sexual potency. And last summer Cuba released CimaVax EGF, the first therapeutic vaccine for lung cancer. The drug triggers an immune response that extends life in lung cancer patients and can ease breathing and restore appetite.
No-one. No-one supports US Cuba embargo - they just send more tourists!
US has gone mad - still is mad over Cuba issue!
Stupid brain dead posters support US over Cuba!
The US is still ruled by a crazy rich non-democractic elite -their current puppy is Obama - even thinks globalisation is good! Indians make toys for US instead of houses for their people!
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Per-capita-wise, Cuba qualifies as the world's biggest debtor nation with a foreign debt of close to $50 billion, a credit rating nudging Somalia's, and an uninterrupted record of defaults.
From: United States
Just "Whistling past the graveyard!"
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about some sleep first
"While several Cuban-American members of Congress oppose dismantling the Cuba embargo, Francisco "Pepe" Hernandez, President of the Cuban American National Foundation, a leading Miami-based Cuban exile group, said he favored a new policy.
"We saw a lot of tough talk during the last administration, tough talk and doing nothing, like waiting for snow in Havana," he said."
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reute....RTRIDST_0_USA-CUBA-BROOKINGS.html
In this years' Index of Economic Freedom, The Heritage Foundation ranks Cuba as more economically repressive under Raul than under Fidel. Under Raul's (nominal) rule, Cuba slipped down 1.1 notches to number 155 where it ranks almost neck to neck with North Korea.
During the summer of 1960 Castro's KGB-trained security forces stormed into 5,911 U.S owned businesses in Cuba and stole them all at Russian gunpoint -- $2 billion were heisted from outraged U.S. businessmen and stockholders. Much of this stolen U.S. property was then occupied by Canadian and European companies (many of the same Europeans still waxing indignant about the Nazi looting of some of their their properties, by the way.)......hypocrites and appeasers
He only loves them from a distance (or as some would say "at arms lenght", just as the DR does). Cuz' if he would love them, he would not send them back to Haiti so dilligently every time the haitian boatpeople so much as set foot on the island (more often than not by mistake). He's sending the teachers and medical personnel to that country only to win brownie points with African Americans, which has been always a useful tactic on his war against the US establishment and the cuban exiles if you were to look to his wholesale support of the Black Panthers and other black separatist groups on US soil, despite their never acknowledging themselves as communist or even having a mildly socialist agenda.
Still there has to be some kind of "quid pro quo" from the Cuban government and face and negotiate
the rightful claims of the many businesses and banks that were nationalized, and the many international
financial claims that are pending to be resolved.
The terrible credit history and payment reputation of the Cuban government, is known to many businessmen outside Cuba, who have done business there, and is only the fault of Cuba's leaders.
If Cuba is to come back to the fold, then they should pay up the rightful claims from the confiscation of property and businesses that were unjustly done in the past. If they have no money to do so then they should return the properties and pay just compensation with government bonds or some other form of payment.
Cuba has to understand they must be responsible for their past actions and face the music.
S.
1-Move from your fully loaded and entirely furniture home in the U.S with all the modern technology at your fingertips to a crumble old Havana apartment.
2-Get a computer (good luck with that)
3-Try to find an unfiltered internet connection (good luck with that)
4-Start your own business.
5-Whenever you feel like eating a stake or a lobster tail go to the market and get one
6-Talk freely to people on the street about politics and your world views, since you coming from the outside you should have a lot to talk about considering that Cubans get their news from the GOV and they don’t know jack shitzz about what’s going on, just don’t deviate from the government line or you’ll find yourself on a mental institution
7-Openly discuss who you think is the best candidate for the job on the incoming elections
And why Fidel appointee is not fit to lead
8-Report back to this forum in two years and share
http://www.sherritt.com/doc08/sub....mp;category=operations/metals_moa
So for some the risk is worth taking.
I guess by present business interests could develop in the direction of Cuba - thanks for the suggestion to contribute to the revolution. Perhaps if my bamboo seedlings grow and I can build a house....
Friends tell me Cuba, an advanced country is good to do business with.
Richard Branson, I have personally met, does not share your strange and twisted view of Cuba.
He is - guess - a capitalist.
http://www.virgin.com/News/Articl....ic/2005/27062005(1).aspx?Region=0
Soon Virgin will have the A380 for flights replacing 747 antiquated technology.
Cheers!
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/ge....ondaily&id=news/A38001195.xml
My favourite Cuban restaur
http://www.cubana.co.uk/
Part owned by Fidel it is said. So while US government deprives you of good mountain coffee, Cuban rum and cigars - others enjoy...
And try not to be so totally ignorant ...
Against stupidity the very gods Themselves contend in vain
Schiller
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My new venture is exciting international interest.
S.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restau....Peninsula_Dominican_Republic.html
One of the premier restaurants of the Caribb and fortunately within a few metres of ......
S.
Very funny clip, that was a great movie. I sent to all my German speaking friends.
I saw it and I lived it when I was in the corporate rat race! Very funny and sad at the same time, brought back some memories specially the guy picking his feet.LOL.
From: United States
why will the usa govt set its citizen for failure? i just dont get it with these commies. why will they lift the embargo allow their citizen to invest in cuba and then one day the cuba govt confiscate everything. had the world gone mad?
Speaking of nationalization (a commie m.o.);
Commrade Chavez just nationalized a Rice Producing company:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7925174.stm
S.
Hardly suprising a 5 million dollar property in Florda sells for just 1.5 million here. And few taxes!
S.
S.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/business/story/687780.html
Idaho who will benefit from the easing of restrictions.
The caveat here is that the Cubans will probably want credit as well in the future and that could be dangerous to suppliers than are not prudent as the Cuban payment history is terrible.
As a leader Leonel gained from his meeting with Fidel as he exploited the fascination that Fidel has for politicians worldwide, mostly because of his long continuation and hold on power.
His dictatorship was passed on to his brother, as a family hereditary legacy, now I ask myself, is there a son
in the shade awaiting to carry on the family business?
Thaw in relations with U.S. could open doors for return
March 8, 2009
Havana - Times could be uncertain for the more than 70 American fugitives hiding out in Cuba.
Some have enjoyed lives as celebrity revolutionaries in the tropics. Many paraded around town, telling war stories and being hailed as heroes who stood up to "the Empire." But their fate is unclear after a change in administrations on both sides of the Florida Straits.
"Who knows how untouchable anybody is," said Vicki Huddleston, head of the U.S. Interests Section in Havana from 1999 to 2002. "Raul Castro's government is extremely pragmatic."
Have a friend that was buying fish products from Cuba and he related some horror stories.
They will never pay you a credit due on a overpayment or a shipment that was short because they "don't have the mechanisms" to do so.
So dealing with Cuba the motto should be "caveat emptor" or let the buyer beware.
Other than right wing Miami Gusano Mafia GOSSIP, could you provide a link to an objective source that would verify the CUBANS deadbeat status?
The US and Cuba could exchange these want fugitives; a good faith gesture would be by returning
Luis Posada Carriles!
"Two of his employees planted C-4 explosives in a tube of toothpaste on a Cuban airliner departing Barbados; the bomb exploded and all 73 people on board were killed."
Read on:
http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/14033....al_Terrorist_Luis_Posada_Carilles
Representatives of the Basque government tried to travel to Cuba to find out why Hernandez had been arrested, but the Cuban embassy in Spain told them that "this was not a good moment" for them to visit.
Basque authorities then tried to find information about Hernandez by contacting officials of the Cuban government but they have not responded to their inquiries.
This should serve as a warning to all those American companies that are desperate to do business with an unlawful regime, where the law of the land is whatever the dictator decides.
It is equivalent to doing business with the Mafia, and on top of that they do not pay their bills. Read more (In Spanish)
Believe me or ask any Dominican businessmen that has done trade with Cuba either exporting to them or buying from them, and they will all tell you the same story.
They would screw their mother if they could, I mean I had friends that use to go buy cigars right from the factory showrooms and they were sold fakes out of a parking lot outside.
You order a sandwich in a hotel and they have home made sandwiches that they brought to work and sell if you are a cash paying customer.
When you buy container loads of products you might not get everything you ordered and if you make the mistake of extending credit, might as well donate the goods to them, because they have all kinds of foreign currency restrictions and will never pay you, even if they had good intentions.
Hernandez has been the director in Cuba of SPRI (Association for the Promotion of Industry), since Basque companies began operating in Cuba in 1998.
At the end of 2008, SPRI had been involved in more than 100 projects by Basque companies in Cuba and represented approximately 40 companies currently operating in the island.
Hernandez, who is a Cuban citizen, was a close friend of Carlos Lage the Cuban vice president who was purged this week.
According to sources in the Basque Government, Hernandez was arrested when he tried to leave Cuba for Spain, where he was supposed to attend several conferences with business executives of companies represented by SPRI.
If it is so horrible and risky to do business with these "horrible" Cubans then why did your friends got there in the first place: Since it is so internationally known that the Cubans are unscrupulous business partners?
Like 2+2 is not = to 4 here, if you know what I mean.
It would seem to me the Cuban government would have collapsed immediately after the Soviet Union especially with these type of business practices.
Don't be so naive, my friends went there looking for bargains like everybody else.
Antique furniture was bought for pennies on the dollar but you had to be there and put in the container personally or some items would disappear.
Same with Cuban paintings of renown artists, and art objects.
Cuban fish industries are famous for their high quality and export to many sophisticated markets,
the same with Cuban rum and cigars are still rated the best in the world.
I understand now!
In its current financial situation, Cuba ranks second on the list of the world's most indebted nations.
Cuba's appalling credit history and chronic failure to pay its debts also raises serious questions about the effort to extend credits at a time when U.S. taxpayers are being saddled with the price tag of the economic recovery.
It's appalling the U.S. would consider liberalizing trade with Cuba at the same time that we deny better trade relations with some of our strongest allies in the hemisphere.
http://www.workers.org/2009/world/cuban_revolution_0115/
DR president praises Cuba:
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In Cuba, Fernandez praised the country's educational models, and also proposed that the Enrique Jose Varona Higher Education Institute sign agreements with the Dominican Teachers Association that consists of teachers working at public schools. The proposal was welcomed by center director Alfredo Mateo Diaz Fuentes
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from DR1. today.
Some Cuban educational expertise may be transferred to DR!
S.
S.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/200....cuban-shakeup-as-signal-to-obama/