HIGÜEY. - President Leonel Fernandez instructed the ruling PLD party’s legislators to approve as is the controversial Article 30 of the constitutional reform bill submitted to Congress.
PLD deputy Juan Julio Campos made the revelation Tuesday, and said all of his party’s and allied parties’ lawmakers will support the Head State’s position. “In the last meeting we had with president Leonel Fernandez in the National Palace he said that we had to maintain article 30 as is, which establishes the right to life from conception to death.”
He said although Fernandez “hasn’t dictate policy to them,” that was the expression of the chief executive, who is also the president of the PLD. “Particularly I will accept that position, and I believe it’s the same position of most of the PLD assembly members, to keep the penalty for abortion as the churches are asking, that is to say, that the PLD’s position is for article 30 to remain as is.”
The Altagracia province (east) legislator said the Dominican Republic is “a believing” country, for which it needs to maintain those values that bolster the family. “It’s necessary to penalize abortion constitutionally and to maintain its firmness.”
Different sectors say they opposed to legalizing abortion and the Catholic Church, through cardinal Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez, has labeled those who promote abortion “butchers.”
Written by: belly51, 14 Apr 2009 4:21 PM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco y Houston,TX
Mr Leonel will avoid colliding with anybody just because he doesn't have any guts to say whats right and wrong. Great president but a coward thats letting others decide what happens under his watch. I believe abbortion should be permitted in special cases but not turn it into a option out of being resposible for your actions. it shouldn't be a part of any constitution but up to the locals on a case by case basis.
Written by: xwill7, 14 Apr 2009 5:19 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
They will still practice abortion in the black market...
Written by: Username, 14 Apr 2009 5:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Abortion should be legal, unless the GOV will guarantee the future mother that they will pay all the expenses associated with raising the kid. If a woman/girl for whatever reason does not want the child, how is forcing her to have it good for the child? Stupid Jesus freaks pushing their BS on the rest of the society. First they are against condoms, then when the girl gets pregnant they don't want her to have an abortion. Those church idiots should go back to the 14th century!
Written by: antonio1, 14 Apr 2009 6:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
For crying' out loud guys... how much clearer that the president have to be after he said that he support article 30, which establishes the Right to Life From Conception To Death?
Written by: mrios, 14 Apr 2009 7:06 PM
From: United States
UseRname,
As a so called "Jesus Freak" myself just think for a moment if your Mother believed in Abortion, you would not be here in the first place or you would not be given a chance to join the so called "JESUS FREAKS"..............Better yet lets make Capital Punishment First Degree Premeditated Murder/ Abortion legal and you can be the Executioner, heck we'll even donate the Hoover Vacum cleaner. we'll call it Death threw suction.
Ever wonder why Woman who had Abortions can't stand to be around new Born Babies ? I think it has to do with their Internal Instinct, Mothers are by Nature suppose to care, nurture and protect there Children, Mine did.
JESUS, DON'T BE CAUGHT DEAD WITH OUT HIM.
Written by: Username, 14 Apr 2009 7:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Mr. "Jesus freak" my mother never wanted nor needed an abortion, but if she did i would much rather never being born than being born to a mother who does not want me or can not support me. A mother who would abandon me, abuse me, sell me to the traffickers or who knows what.
What gives you the right to force a woman to have a child if you yourself are not ready to help her raise the child? You Jesus freaks should stay out of other people's lives and focus on your own, if you have any, which is clear you don't given the amount of time you spend on interfering in other's.
Written by: antonio1, 14 Apr 2009 7:22 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
Mrios, you are right on, the goal of our country is not to have one single Dominican aborted; but to be honest I have mist feeling about this guy that goes by username. Good Night.
Written by: mrios, 14 Apr 2009 7:41 PM
From: United States
UseRname,
Good for your Mother & You.
It's called freedom of choice. Life is full of choices, remember.
What ever happened to waiting for that perfect Guy or Gal.
What ever happened to taking Responsibility before it happens, it takes two to tangle or be like "OCTOMOM".
From: United States, Brooklyn
Once again I am embarrassed at my country... For it listening to the religious people who are nothing but at bunch of ignoramus, who can't cope with the modern world... Instead of setting an example, which many countries have, of valuing scientific method and using logic to explain the world around them, my country still a "Catholic Country"
Religion is ONE of the reasons why we can get ahead….
Written by: Edward, 15 Apr 2009 2:15 AM
From: United States, Faux News: Unfair Imbalance
The religious freaks need to mind their own business. A fertilized egg is not a human being!
Written by: FMT1010, 15 Apr 2009 10:03 AM
From: United States
separation between church and state is the way to rule a country. The dominican politicians are all cowards. They are afraid of standing against the Catholic Church. Shame on them!
From: Dominican Republic
What gives a woman a right to kill a human being. 90% of women who have abortions are not making a free choice - they are under great pressure from the men in their lives, as will as mothers etc. Second - 90% have serious emotional issues the rest of their lives - many are in counseling years later - the USA has aborted 40 million of its own, add to that the number of kids these would have had and the USA is DOWN by 80 million - no wonder it is growing only by immigration! In England the last years the most popular boys name has been Mahommad. The DR should remain pro-life!
Written by: FMT1010, 15 Apr 2009 11:18 AM
From: United States
cabaretewilliam i dont know where you got your information, but your comment iswayyyyyyy off. In the US the numbers of abortion has actually decreased due to education and family planning. if the DR wants to remain a Pro-life state then they should start teaching and providing prevention .....oh ,but wait ! that's also against the church.. what a girl to do? No sex? No RAPE? No Incest? No pregnancy complications? Let the WOMAN die because the UNBORN has rights and the woman does not?
Written by: Bailarin 
, 15 Apr 2009 12:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic
'' BEFORE I FORMED YOU IN YOUR MOTHERS WOMB , I KNEW YOU ''.
I LOVE that verse in the bible from the book of Jeramiah that God spoke to the prophet ..??????
Written by: DomVilla, 15 Apr 2009 2:16 PM
From: United States, Maryland
This is kind of fooling around with the aim of distraction or controversial topic we all know nothing about that topic going to change the reality some cash make whatever doctor at DR for a good amount of cash make an abortion, politic and entertainment go parallel that a fact
From: Dominican Republic
FMT1010,
Let the WOMAN die because the UNBORN has rights and the woman does not?
FMT1010 - now why set up that paper tiger? Prolife people have always accepted that the life of the mother should be saved - you know darn well that 99% of the abortions (or even more) do NOT invlive the above. MOST, by FAR, are a terrible form fo birth control, often a women has 2-3!
Written by: FMT1010, 15 Apr 2009 4:18 PM
From: United States
cabaretewilliam: for sure your are not a doctor or you would know the real numbers...and its not one and one ,by the way, is too many. the debate is whether a woman has the right to choice.. not the church and definitely not YOU.
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: FMT1010, 15 Apr 2009 4:18 PM
From: United States
cabaretewilliam: for sure your are not a doctor or you would know the real numbers...and its not one and one ,by the way, is too many. the debate is whether a woman has the right to choice.. not the church and definitely not YOU.
Yes my dear, we as a people can tell others that it is wrong to kill - we put murderers in jail. If a woman kills her child one hour after it is born she goes to jail. If she kills it WHILE it is being born (or has a doctor suck out it's brains while being born) you pro-killing/abortion people give her a medal.....
Any society that turns on it's own young is DOOMED - as is the western world. While we abort 40 million of our young (USA alone) Islam has had 500 million babies!
Written by: mrios, 15 Apr 2009 8:13 PM
From: United States
CabreteWilliam,
Your so right. I look at it this way, Where else can a Woman play God on who lives or Dies. Most Woman I talked to about the subject all agree they made a big mistake. I call Abortion "SELECTIVE BREEDING" HEY PARENTS..... a 15 year old Girl in America can get an Abortion without Her Parents ever knowing and Her Privacy is protected by Law. Besides by the time the Female even knows shes expecting maybe a Month has gone by and by then the developing Child has a Heart beating, truly sad indeed. Bottom line is if a real MAN impregnates a Woman he would be a real Man by HELPING in the raising of that innocent Child. Like my old friend Zoltan Friedmann [survivor of the Nazi Holocaust] used to say "INNOCENCE AT BIRTH IS NON DEBATABLE" The Nazi's were great a Abortion "they improved it". I bet those who support Abortion are the anti-War/Violence folks and most I think would not destroy there Flesh and Blood. A Doctors oath flushed down the Toilet.
Abortion =$$$.
From: Dominican Republic
you summed it up very well. $$$$ and anti-life!
Written by: mrios, 15 Apr 2009 8:27 PM
From: United States
Bailarin,
The Folks who support Abortion never read the Bible in the first place. They probably believe in Darwin's Theory anyway. What if there Wives, Girlfriends were to be impregnated by them and the Woman in there lives decided She wanted a Abortion ?
It's about MORALS and the respect for LIFE, not even your own. I keep having to remind myself it's the ME, MINE and I generation. I just wonder how 10 years from now if they would they have a change of mind.......I mean HEART.
Written by: mrios, 15 Apr 2009 8:29 PM
From: United States
CabareteWilliam,
MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, it's all about the money or the love of money.
Take care Brother.
From: Dominican Republic
There are 5.6 million children in Haiti (out of 9.6 million).
More than 310,000 people are born every year in Haiti (36 in 1000).
More than 248,000 people are born every year in DR.
The island has nearly 20 million people!! One of the highest human density in the world! This is a small island with very finite resources AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS A HUMAN FAILURE DUE TO A SAVAGE DEMOGRAPHIC EXPLOSION!
Where is the water, food, energy, and real estate (for living, putting garbage away, and transport) for 20 million people growing at a rate of 2.8 % a year!!
MANDATORY BIRTH CONTROL NOW!
Written by: mrios, 15 Apr 2009 11:45 PM
From: United States
LetroudeballeGenerroso,
If it were only that simple, until Humans take responsibility for there actions nothing will change, before rather then after the fact. CarlosFranco I am ashamed of the DR where Men treat Woman as a sex objects, so many Woman look to prostitution as a way of life and sex as a way to make it, but it's a mind set that we first have to address. We as a Society place good looks above all and ignore the basic Human elements. Children are born innocent, Children don't have the choice or option to pick there parents. Children should be an end result of both loving and committed Parents not a quick sex act for jollies or profit. Also Men need to act like Men not animals remember we all have Mothers, Sisters, Aunts, Grandmothers and in some cases even Daughters out of Wedlock. The DR is producing its own version of a total OBAMANATION where Abortion is only part of the problem. At least Leonel had the courage to stand for something.
continue....
Written by: mrios, 16 Apr 2009 12:04 AM
From: United States
CarlosFranco,
Mans Laws are a copy of Gods Law, like it or not. The Ten Commandments are a classic example. Just think if Man were to apply these Laws, maybe this World would be a better place after all. You should blame Mans interpretation of Gods Laws not God. Even Atheist get a nice Religious Funeral where they are portrayed as GOOD, LOVING and caring HUMAN BEING while they were alive B*** S***. Reality is how do many want to be remembered ?
OH I got it ! The DR has gone full circle we are now seeing the rotten fruits and pathetic results of our very own home grown O B A M A N A T I O N where becomes GOD.
Written by: Bailarin 
, 16 Apr 2009 9:03 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Of course its murder ..duh ..if Jesus said to hate your brother without cause constitutes murder , how then can a selfish women who doesnt want to be inconvienienced or accept responsibility for her actions by allowing the brains to be sucked out of her babys head not be murder also ? There is nothing new under the sun . Our God hating society is just as evil as the the generation of Israelites that were sacrificing thier children as burnt offerings on the alter to the pagan gods of molech..
From: Dominican Republic
The island has nearly 20 million people!! One of the highest human density in the world! letroudeballeGeneroso
(Totally false statement. Get your facts right. The DR is 57th - get that - 56 countries more dense, Haiti has 40 countries more dense. And this is NOT the issue. It is the value placed on human life. In Canada a woman shot hersefl in the gut and tried to kill her baby. When the baby was born the docs discovered the lead. She was supposed to be charged with attempted murder. Instead the pro- murder the babies people screamed foul play and she was never charged. And some of you actually think this is moral and sane? The West is doomed. God's wheels of justice turn very slow but the grind mighty fine. )
Written by: Username, 16 Apr 2009 10:10 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Let the woman choose! If she does not want or can not support the child why force her to have the child? Is the church gonna help the raise the child? Year right! Let me ask you this; if someone took your sperm and used it to impregnate a woman and after the child is born you know the woman will leave and you will be stuck with the child you did not want in the first place and can not afford to raise would you be against the whole thing or not?
If the men who are forcing this issue on women are the ones who will somehow be obligated to take care of the child 100% of them would say "Uh wait, count me out! I got my own life to deal with".
Written by: Bailarin 
, 16 Apr 2009 10:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic
I guess she was forced to have sex too ? The Devil made her do it so let him raise the baby , right? ISNT JUST LIKE OUR SOSCIETY TO MAKE OUR HOT BEDS OF HELL AND THEN EXPECT OUR GOVERNMENTS OR EVEN OUR CHURCHES TO PICK UP THE TAB .? Adam where are you ? did you eat of the tree I told you not to ? The woman you gave me to me gave me some and i ate ... Yes lord , but the serpent tempted me and i ate ...and so on and so on ,,,
Written by: Username, 16 Apr 2009 10:40 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Let's assume the woman is the biggest whore in the world, why should the child suffer because some Jesus freak forced his/her mother to give birth? And where is that Jesus freak now anyway? Why isn't he helping the mother raise the child since HE wanted the child so much? The church has an agenda that more and more poor uneducated children are born, it just means more "subscribers" to their BS. They don't care about the child one bit, they just see the child as a future costumer and a sheep who will believe the BS. That is the reason they are against the condom use.
Written by: Bailarin 
, 16 Apr 2009 11:25 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Who is They my friend ? and please give me the dominicano definition of Jesus freak ...ID LOVE TO KNOW .. please dont confuse Jesus with His Church ..Sadly, we ( christians ) have dropped the ball as much as the heathen and we are poor representatives of His perfect love , mercy and grace...It also sounds like your alluding to those catholic variety pope puppet PRIESTS that molest little boys in thier spare time and expect the world to accept thier phony pleas for forgiveness when they get busted ...Your right , they dont care. BUT , the issue is never what man ( or the church ) says or thinks , but what does God Almighty say about it in HIs holy word.? IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WE WILL ALL STAND BEFORE GOD , NOT HIS CHURCH , AND GIVE AN ACCOUNT FOR OUR SELFISH , IRRISPONSIBLE ACTIONS. iF YOU HAVE THE GUTS , READ HIS WORD FOR YOURSELF AND DECIDE whats right...
Written by: Username, 16 Apr 2009 11:52 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Get back to the topic. Will YOU support the child since YOU want it so much?
Organized religion is a terrible thing, be it Christianity, Catholic church, Islam... same BS. Close-minded people pushing their agenda on others. In my opinion all organized religion should be banned, if someone wants to find "God" they can read The Bible or Quran or whatever on their own and draw their own conclusions from it, without someone else telling them what to believe in and what to think. People who go to church to be preached to are nothing but the sheep, the followers who need someone else to tell them what is round and what is square.
Written by: Bailarin 
, 16 Apr 2009 12:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I thought so .. I rest my case your honor ...lol ( by the way , True Christianity is not a religion , its a relationship with the true and living God ..and the church is an organism , not an organization ). I would like to think your ignorance is due to a lack of knowledge and not brains , but since you still havent given me the dominican definition to what a Jesus Freak is , the jurys still out to lunch ...God bless. ( p.s- Is this message round or square ??? ) . and keeping with the text , abortion is premeditated murder in the first degree and its still an abominable sin against God ..
Written by: Username, 16 Apr 2009 12:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Jesus freak - a person to whom "God's" word, no matter how absurd in some cases it might be, always makes more sense than reality, common sense and science.
Written by: Bailarin 
, 16 Apr 2009 12:45 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I was right , it is lack of brains ...but abortion is still first degree premeditated murder and a vile , gross , detestable abominable sin against The Lord Jesus Christ ..and even this , God will forgive if a person will humble themselves , admit they are a sinner , confess with thier mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in thier hearts that he died on the cross for thier sins and rose from the dead. Nothing flies in the face of common sense more than Gods unconditional offer of love and forgiveness to any and all that would believe on His name . Do this and you will be saved.. Reject His free gift of salvation and you will perish for all eternity .
Written by: Username, 16 Apr 2009 1:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Then i suppose i will perish since i refuse to believe fairy-tales, no matter who many people around me do.
Written by: Bailarin 
, 16 Apr 2009 1:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic
You are not far from the kingdom of God username .............John 3.3 - but abortion is still an ugly murderous abominational sin against the Most High God .....Know Him while you still have a chance.
Written by: Username, 16 Apr 2009 2:09 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Bailarin, honestly i do respect your passion for God and the strength of your beliefs, but i can not subscribe to the same "channel" since for me it is very hard to believe the whole resurrection thing happened, i find the church to be very arrogant institution with the whole "my way or the hell" attitude, how anti-science they are and at the end of the day anti-freedom.
If i am so wrong please explain to me the logic behind the church being so anti-condom use? Wouldn't it make more sense if they said "If you are not sure you want a child use condoms"?
Written by: Bailarin 
, 16 Apr 2009 2:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The amazing thing is that there even is a way ! Listen , if you were dying of cancer and had 1 week to live and the ''scientists and doctors '' told you that drinking toilet water was the only cure , would you argue about there not being another way ? of course not , you would not even question it and drink .. Get my point ? Again , this is Gods word , not mine or the churchs . GOD WROTE AND INSPIRED IT.
Some one once said to me when I was a smoker that '' if God wanted us to smoke , he would of put chimneys on our heads ...Biblically speaking , the world is only 6000 years old and condoms have only been around for about 50 of those years ...God invented sex my friend , not condoms, and He meant for it to be pleasurable and ''NATURAL'' , but also only between a man and his one wife .. If we did things Gods way to begin with , we wouldnt need condoms and we wouldnt have Stds or abortions ... Gods laws and commandments are meant to give us life , not rob us of it..
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: Username, 16 Apr 2009 10:10 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Let the woman choose! If she does not want or can not support the child why force her to have the child? Is the church gonna help the raise the child?
(Yes, churches do take care of and take in pregant teens. Also, are you not aware that 1000's of couples - having used too much birth control pills or whatever - are now desperate fo babie s- there is a waiting list. If you ended up with a puppy you did not want - would you like it???? NO???? But he human life - sure thing - suck the brains out as it is being born!)
Written by: Username, 16 Apr 2009 6:06 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Bailarin, the church is so anti-sex to them it's almost a punishable sin. They want the people to believe Maria NEVER had sex and somehow got knocked up by an angel. C'mon, if someone didn't know this stuff came from the Bible and they read it for the first time, they would think it's a script of a comedy or a fiction movie. The whole thing is absurd, and laughable.
From: Dominican Republic
The best sex ever is in marriage - there have been many studies.....you fornicators will never know what you are missing....and what you screwed up - literally
As a so called "Jesus Freak" myself just think for a moment if your Mother believed in Abortion, you would not be here in the first place or you would not be given a chance to join the so called "JESUS FREAKS"..............Better yet lets make Capital Punishment First Degree Premeditated Murder/ Abortion legal and you can be the Executioner, heck we'll even donate the Hoover Vacum cleaner. we'll call it Death threw suction.
Ever wonder why Woman who had Abortions can't stand to be around new Born Babies ? I think it has to do with their Internal Instinct, Mothers are by Nature suppose to care, nurture and protect there Children, Mine did.
JESUS, DON'T BE CAUGHT DEAD WITH OUT HIM.
What gives you the right to force a woman to have a child if you yourself are not ready to help her raise the child? You Jesus freaks should stay out of other people's lives and focus on your own, if you have any, which is clear you don't given the amount of time you spend on interfering in other's.
Good for your Mother & You.
It's called freedom of choice. Life is full of choices, remember.
What ever happened to waiting for that perfect Guy or Gal.
What ever happened to taking Responsibility before it happens, it takes two to tangle or be like "OCTOMOM".
Religion is ONE of the reasons why we can get ahead….
I LOVE that verse in the bible from the book of Jeramiah that God spoke to the prophet ..??????
Let the WOMAN die because the UNBORN has rights and the woman does not?
FMT1010 - now why set up that paper tiger? Prolife people have always accepted that the life of the mother should be saved - you know darn well that 99% of the abortions (or even more) do NOT invlive the above. MOST, by FAR, are a terrible form fo birth control, often a women has 2-3!
From: United States
cabaretewilliam: for sure your are not a doctor or you would know the real numbers...and its not one and one ,by the way, is too many. the debate is whether a woman has the right to choice.. not the church and definitely not YOU.
Yes my dear, we as a people can tell others that it is wrong to kill - we put murderers in jail. If a woman kills her child one hour after it is born she goes to jail. If she kills it WHILE it is being born (or has a doctor suck out it's brains while being born) you pro-killing/abortion people give her a medal.....
Any society that turns on it's own young is DOOMED - as is the western world. While we abort 40 million of our young (USA alone) Islam has had 500 million babies!
Your so right. I look at it this way, Where else can a Woman play God on who lives or Dies. Most Woman I talked to about the subject all agree they made a big mistake. I call Abortion "SELECTIVE BREEDING" HEY PARENTS..... a 15 year old Girl in America can get an Abortion without Her Parents ever knowing and Her Privacy is protected by Law. Besides by the time the Female even knows shes expecting maybe a Month has gone by and by then the developing Child has a Heart beating, truly sad indeed. Bottom line is if a real MAN impregnates a Woman he would be a real Man by HELPING in the raising of that innocent Child. Like my old friend Zoltan Friedmann [survivor of the Nazi Holocaust] used to say "INNOCENCE AT BIRTH IS NON DEBATABLE" The Nazi's were great a Abortion "they improved it". I bet those who support Abortion are the anti-War/Violence folks and most I think would not destroy there Flesh and Blood. A Doctors oath flushed down the Toilet.
Abortion =$$$.
The Folks who support Abortion never read the Bible in the first place. They probably believe in Darwin's Theory anyway. What if there Wives, Girlfriends were to be impregnated by them and the Woman in there lives decided She wanted a Abortion ?
It's about MORALS and the respect for LIFE, not even your own. I keep having to remind myself it's the ME, MINE and I generation. I just wonder how 10 years from now if they would they have a change of mind.......I mean HEART.
MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, it's all about the money or the love of money.
Take care Brother.
More than 310,000 people are born every year in Haiti (36 in 1000).
More than 248,000 people are born every year in DR.
The island has nearly 20 million people!! One of the highest human density in the world! This is a small island with very finite resources AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS A HUMAN FAILURE DUE TO A SAVAGE DEMOGRAPHIC EXPLOSION!
Where is the water, food, energy, and real estate (for living, putting garbage away, and transport) for 20 million people growing at a rate of 2.8 % a year!!
MANDATORY BIRTH CONTROL NOW!
If it were only that simple, until Humans take responsibility for there actions nothing will change, before rather then after the fact. CarlosFranco I am ashamed of the DR where Men treat Woman as a sex objects, so many Woman look to prostitution as a way of life and sex as a way to make it, but it's a mind set that we first have to address. We as a Society place good looks above all and ignore the basic Human elements. Children are born innocent, Children don't have the choice or option to pick there parents. Children should be an end result of both loving and committed Parents not a quick sex act for jollies or profit. Also Men need to act like Men not animals remember we all have Mothers, Sisters, Aunts, Grandmothers and in some cases even Daughters out of Wedlock. The DR is producing its own version of a total OBAMANATION where Abortion is only part of the problem. At least Leonel had the courage to stand for something.
continue....
Mans Laws are a copy of Gods Law, like it or not. The Ten Commandments are a classic example. Just think if Man were to apply these Laws, maybe this World would be a better place after all. You should blame Mans interpretation of Gods Laws not God. Even Atheist get a nice Religious Funeral where they are portrayed as GOOD, LOVING and caring HUMAN BEING while they were alive B*** S***. Reality is how do many want to be remembered ?
OH I got it ! The DR has gone full circle we are now seeing the rotten fruits and pathetic results of our very own home grown O B A M A N A T I O N where becomes GOD.
(Totally false statement. Get your facts right. The DR is 57th - get that - 56 countries more dense, Haiti has 40 countries more dense. And this is NOT the issue. It is the value placed on human life. In Canada a woman shot hersefl in the gut and tried to kill her baby. When the baby was born the docs discovered the lead. She was supposed to be charged with attempted murder. Instead the pro- murder the babies people screamed foul play and she was never charged. And some of you actually think this is moral and sane? The West is doomed. God's wheels of justice turn very slow but the grind mighty fine. )
If the men who are forcing this issue on women are the ones who will somehow be obligated to take care of the child 100% of them would say "Uh wait, count me out! I got my own life to deal with".
Organized religion is a terrible thing, be it Christianity, Catholic church, Islam... same BS. Close-minded people pushing their agenda on others. In my opinion all organized religion should be banned, if someone wants to find "God" they can read The Bible or Quran or whatever on their own and draw their own conclusions from it, without someone else telling them what to believe in and what to think. People who go to church to be preached to are nothing but the sheep, the followers who need someone else to tell them what is round and what is square.
Then i suppose i will perish since i refuse to believe fairy-tales, no matter who many people around me do.
If i am so wrong please explain to me the logic behind the church being so anti-condom use? Wouldn't it make more sense if they said "If you are not sure you want a child use condoms"?
Some one once said to me when I was a smoker that '' if God wanted us to smoke , he would of put chimneys on our heads ...Biblically speaking , the world is only 6000 years old and condoms have only been around for about 50 of those years ...God invented sex my friend , not condoms, and He meant for it to be pleasurable and ''NATURAL'' , but also only between a man and his one wife .. If we did things Gods way to begin with , we wouldnt need condoms and we wouldnt have Stds or abortions ... Gods laws and commandments are meant to give us life , not rob us of it..
From: Dominican Republic
Let the woman choose! If she does not want or can not support the child why force her to have the child? Is the church gonna help the raise the child?
(Yes, churches do take care of and take in pregant teens. Also, are you not aware that 1000's of couples - having used too much birth control pills or whatever - are now desperate fo babie s- there is a waiting list. If you ended up with a puppy you did not want - would you like it???? NO???? But he human life - sure thing - suck the brains out as it is being born!)
This is one of the most easily verified event in history.
http://www.christiancrafters.com/sermon_top10.html
http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/josh2.html
I really encourage you to read the 2nd article - this man Josh has debated on univversity campuses for many years - and few can stand up against him....