what a shame Bosch would have been a great president if it wasn't for Wessin and the US backing. and yet this guy get merit in DR. Wessin was a criminal lets not forget it. Bosch was looking out for the masses or i should said for the better of the country.

Now that I think about it Mr. President , I have a better idea as to what you can do with all those disgruntled , misunderstood Bronx tale Dominican gangstas that are getting so much press this week...!.

Bosch was certainly a great mind and a great teacher. Reading some of his histories I get the sense of a balanced mind and not of an ideologue, but then again who knows fully his intentions. In any case I admire Mr. Bosch and all the patriots who stood up for democracy in '65.

I have some Bosch brand equipment, everytime I use them it reminds me of him. LOL

Now DR can remember the Wessin coup like a crime against democracy.Juan Bosh survived so long after and his ideas are very important in dominican political life.Bosh is immortal .

agibus very true ... a erfect example of the pen being mightier than the sword. As we saw on this site Gen. Wessin died quietly and wil soon b e just another general in the long list of DR's history. Bosch's historical and political writings however continue informing my generation and those to follow on our heritage, where we've been, and where we may dare to dream we can go.

The only thing we got from the 1965 war is a military elite that to this date owns and run the country like a finca.

mass murderes in the Dominican Navy and Air force who dropped bombs on a civilian population back them, now make millions of dollars on drug trafficking and Human trafficking, also have total control over Dominican air space and air fields in order to help international drugs cartels run wild on Dominican soil.

Juan Bosch was a great writer but he was not a leader nor had any guts to really stand up. Trujillo had the guts but didn't have the mind. If we were to mix this 2 we would had a whole different country today.

"As we saw on this site Gen. Wessin died quietly and wil soon b e just another general in the long list of DR's history. Bosch's historical and political writings however continue informing my generation and those to follow on our heritage, where we've been, and where we may dare to dream we can go. "

Indeed, men like Wessin end up in the trash heap of history. Mark my words, when balaguer's psycophants begin to wane in years and Balaguer is judged on just his writings and the historical record history will not be kind to him (yes, even as a writer he was garbage and I'm not saying that because I despise him. Very few Latin American intellectuals outside of DR are familiar with Balaguer's writings for the obvious reasons. Not so the case with Bosch).

cib agreed! Belly I'm still learning so haven't formed a solid opinion of his leadership skills, but as far as that goes we can't forget his role in the formation of both living political parties in DR.

Cibaeno

I agree with that. As we all know Balaguer was as crook as they get. He was a the head of the plan to kill Orlando Martinez and i can almost guarantee he had something to do with the murder of Prof. Narciso. because he didn't want the Dominican people to be educated because it would blow-off everything he wanted to do, instead he gave people Fundas de INESPRE to keep them on their side. I remember that in 1980s in San Francisco there was a plot to kill him back them after that he refused to campaign there because people figured out what he was doing to the general public. later they asked him why he didn't campaign there and he said that we were too rebelious and didn't deserve to be part of the Dominican republic.

The U.S. government called them "rebels," ironically, because they wanted to restore the first democratically elected president that the Republic had since before Trujillo. The U.S. policy of military invasions, exploitation and support of despots, as long as they were avowed anti-Communists, has left a bitter taste throughout Latin America and has created a backlash reflected by the rise of Chavez and others who have felt the pain. Venceremos.

Somebody said to me that Elias Wessin (son), is working at Leonel Fernandez Administration, is that true, my question PLD does not have people who can do the same as the general son.

"Somebody said to me that Elias Wessin (son), is working at Leonel Fernandez Administration, is that true, my question PLD does not have people who can do the same as the general son."

The son is also the head of a political party that only he and his grandmother have heard off. I believe that one is not responsible for their parent's actions but Elias Wessin's son's attempt to salvage his father's legacy as of late earns him the middle finger. Conosca su padre por lo que era, un traidor y un enemigo total del pueblo Dominicano.

And let's not forget a bunch of other traitors, notably Donald Reid Cabral who along with Wessin formed part of the ruling coalition that was formed after Boisch's overthrow in 63. When Cabral passed away a few years ago he recieved a state funeral that was attended by President Fernandez. I though that the whole ceremony was a slap on the face to all those Dominicans that sacrficied life and limb to restore democracy in 65.

A while ago my grandfather told me the story.. Juan Bosch was visiting Navarrete after he won the election.. after so many things he promised. My grandpa was waiting in line to shake the presidents hand.. and infront of him were three graduated female friends chatting. "Sr. Presidente, nos graduamos y no hemos podido encontrar trabajo todavia" JB"vallen y busquen una libra de azucar, 5 botellas de leche y palo de canela, hagan un dulce de leche y vendalo en la calle".. my granpa, left the line.. never voted morao.. funny.. I got the chance to meet Professor Bosch.. and when I met him.. I just rememered the story about the college graduated girls and the dulce de leche..

julio that's an interesting anecdote, there are many different ways I could take it. I guess a politician is a politician is a politician, and I have to remember that as I praise his academic accomplishments.

Interesting just yesterday i had a conversation with a relative that knows plenty of what happened in that era, if only people knew the truth they wouldn't be backing up this commie stooge. The fact is before the election results they put this guy in power. And yes he was a communist, and the scenario for D.R. would of been another Cuba how terrible. http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/163....ages/_1632974_011101bosch300a.jpg

Gizmo when and if we get access to the secret papers of the Castro Government it will be finally cleared up and many people will have egg on their face just as in Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs no one on the left wanted to believe they were guilty. They were guilty it was proved beyond doubt and no one can defend them now.When that rotten nest of swine collapses in Havana we will know the truth one way or the other

"The fact is before the election results they put this guy in power. "

So you're insinuating that the election in 63 was rigged. Prove it.

please do not tell me that Cuba will be like China and Viet nam just ask Jackie Chan about the Confucian personality which Cubans are not

GC, you know nothing about DR, Juan Bosch, or about the events of 65. Stick to drinking your piña coladas on the malecon while squinting your eyes in your vain attempt to feel as if you're still in Havana.

ciby I do not know who you refer to but I have spent many happy and rewarding hours with his son Leon do not doubt me He has been to my home on many occasions also you may come to the Colonial Zone I will show you the bullet holes

"ciby I do not know who you refer to but I have spent many happy and rewarding hours with his son Leon do not doubt me He has been to my home on many occasions"

Interesting. GC also referred to my person as "ciby" and I even recall him mentioning that he personally knew Leon Bosch. Give it up old man. The jig is up.

that is if you could ever tear yourself away from the big apple

what a coincidence

gouletcolonial, Jan 1 2009:

"We are sorry as well And I am not so young and know his son Leon very well when you see him ask him how many glasses of wine he has enjoyed from my balcony in the Zona Colonial "

Tsk-tsk.

WooooHoooooo!!!!

Lets all celebrate the day the Commies tried to take over and led to 1000's of deaths!!!!!

some things are in bad taste and inappropriate

every body that know about Juan Bosch know he was a coward who wouldn't stand up for nothing. I give him credit as a great writer because he was. Bosch and Leonel are both kind of like the same good speakers but afraid to comfront corruption and i don't blame them directly for it but allowing it to happen is just as bad as doing it your self. Leonel has done good things but has not filled his promises because of being a coward. Bosch was not the kind of president i would wish to have at that time nor now. I want a president who will stand up and make the law be respected and applied to everybody but we won't see that from Leonel or even is Bosch was still alive.

"some things are in bad taste and inappropriate "

indeed. Like passing a stupid comment as Mr. C did on a day when we Dominicans are remembering our martyrs and the sacrifices made in the past.

In Loving Memory of My Father Ruben Brache

They called my dad a rebel. The same guy who always took the high road, stood and acted for what he believed in and stuck to his principles under the toughest situations, they called a rebel. It was 44 years ago that he was called on by his childhood friend Juan Bosch to represent the constitutionalist, legal government of the Republic at the United Nations during the height of these events.

My father was permitted to speak before the Security Council where he told the truth, like he always did. He was noble and dignified, like he always was. Sought peace, like he always had.

When he wasn't speaking at the U.N., my father was leaving the house for work at 7:30 and returning at 10:45 every night. If he were here today, he would ask us to rally round our Quisquella La Bella and to do right by ourselves -- even if it means giving the Wessins un abrazo de paz.

Can anybody tell me where I could get a copy of the battle cry of the revolution song. I heard it every day as a child, and I remember very few words and some of the melody. We would sing it all the time, even while being bombed by
Elias Wessin y Wessin boys. Heck, we use to run around collecting falling shells from P51 and Mosquito aircrafts.

I would really like to to get a recorded copy to cheer up an old man and bring back some great memories.

I would really appreciate input from anyone who could help direct me to a copy of this great piece of work.

Thank you.

The april 24 th. revolution was at the same time a glorious and a unfortunate event. It was the time while the positive forces react agains the most obscure grup of people who stole the power from the dominican people. It was unfortunate because it made the way for the occupation of ower territory by a foreign army and all of those that came after.
I want to express my respect for the colonels Franciss Caamano, Fernandez Dominguez, Lora Fernandez and all those solders and civillians who fought with dignity in defence of the most noble principle of ower nation.

glomy put it in the forum I am sure some one knows where to find it and then humm a few bars for us

Gloma

I think i know the song you are talking about my father used to played a lot is by Cuco Valoy and is call Paginas Gloriosas and i happen to have in computer and yes y a great song and reminds me of my dad. if you want it let me know

Bingo ! but you still gotta humm a few bars for us glomy

Did anyone see the new <documentary about Bosh¿

Wessin was a murderer even after the batlles they where killing innocent people.

Right Now I am in DR and sorrounded by the several poeple the fought in the Revolution.

Belly,

"I think i know the song you are talking about my father used to played a lot is by Cuco Valoy and is call Paginas Gloriosas and i happen to have in computer and yes y a great song and reminds me of my dad. if you want it let me know"

I'll love to have a copy of this work.

I'll send you my e-mail via DT mail.

Thank you.

Fred,

"Bingo ! but you still gotta humm a few bars for us glomy"

I'll do it! Heck, I can't get the melody out of my mind.

BTW, your style of writing seems very familiar to me, but not under same moniker.

Are you reincarnated?

I am an alien and I come in peace

Bosch was a great story teller and writer but lousy president. He felt lost around military and did not trust them. He was a coward and he blinked and did not return to DR in the first days of the revolution
when his presence was required.
He did not campaign after the revolution and conceded the election to Balaguer by staying home.
He double crossed Francis Caamaño and did not rise to the occasion, contributing to the death of
hundreds of Dominicans before and after, by his ambivalence and lack of leadership.

i see so many people speaking about bosch and the civil revolution without know what really happened. so if you want to know more about i recommend youa to see a documentary of Rene Fortunato named Boch- president in the imperial boundary(Bosch presidente en la frontera imperial). you see then you speak. and something else how can be people happy about the american intervention and don´t let the dominican continuing it´s constitution.

we see Cuba with pity but the true is that even with the american support our countries are so weak in their economies that we have to go to the US looking for better opportunities, and in Cuba to their success the US started the ¨embargo¨ even though they are better in education, health and food

Why didn´t Bosch campaign? that´s easy there was still US presence they didn´t retire their troops until Balaguer took the power althought the revolution had ended. if you read the Dominican History after that you´ll see that Balaguer headed one of the bloodiest goverment in DR and however he spent 12 years in power ´cause he had the US approval.

en america latina detras de cada dictador y por ende de los abusos contra el pueblo esta estados unidos y cada vez que han querido mancillar nuestra patria para proteger sus ¨intereses¨ lo han hecho.

para que vean que eso es asi lean que fue la ENMIENDA PLATT y veran

Written by: anthonyC, 24 Apr 2009 3:03 PM
From: United States
WooooHoooooo!!!!

Lets all celebrate the day the Commies tried to take over and led to 1000's of deaths!!!!!

Funny, I celebrate the day of pigs invasion the same

chill the day of pigs invasion is when all your X girlfriends come over to your house to beat on you