good, ya keep tapping yourselves in the back, now I dare you to takle immigration. Huh
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Half billion usdollars DRexport to Haiti.during twelve months.Good sign

As i said before this was just a payroll cut and a way to raised the price for the same product and nothing was going to change.

Listen up Guys let'stry something new here.
it has never been tried before,
Let's write positive posts and let's good sense prevail.

read : let good sense prevail


Let fair play prevail


let civility prevail

let respect prevail

let's ingore the first nasty post.

it is going to be hard, but we can do it.
it takes patience and training.

I will park the Fed X truck and close the gift shops Etiennc01.

How Haitians have been treated in the Dominican Republic will not change. The Dominicans have been trained in this direction and it is hoped not much when it comes to the presence of Haitians in the ground nearby. It is up to us to decide the future of our citizens and with whom we want to do business. Investors from all over the world there is a market in Haiti, so you are invited to join us. Enough is enough, this time we mean business.

Keep you stuff!! for every dollar of profit made by Dominican traders much more is spent on educating and health care for Haitians in DR and that does not count the intangibles like the general downgrading of Dominican society which will push us back in terms of culture and education.

Only the wealthy make money from Haitians ,for the general population it is a total loss so I would say good riddance and don't let the door hit you on the way out ,but please take all your compatriots with you to "haiti cherie" and utilize that "global market" interested in Haiti ?¿?¿? (exporting mud cakes maybe?) ,we will replace your market with others that don´t include poison pills to our nation and our companies will have to pay Dominicans fair wages to work for them.

Please.....leave with all your compatriots ,show us how we would collapse without you.

To You DR: This is precisely what I’ve been telling Haitians they have no value in the Dominican Republic. If they think there will be a better treatment along the way, let them stay and dream all they want; it’s a matter of time before they’ll face reality. One day they’ll get kick out or you will have another bloody river. You’ve been raised like that and it’s in your mental; so you can’t help it.

Haiti, entonces ????
What is your Rx ?

My concern is not about the Dominicans; my biff is with the Haitians. What I want to understand is: How come 97% of the nation can’t stand them, they can’t digest them, not only they hate them with passion but they prove it. In return Haitians still remain in the DR, I don’t get it. Maybe I was born on a different planet.

Haiti,

On this, I do not blame the Dominicans if they are outraged by our peasants invasion, because if you want to be honest, it is a gadamn' invasion. A

Sorry for the typing mistake! Yeah! I was saying that I do understand their fed up attitude toward some of our nationals. If it was our country that had been invaded with illeterate and poor peasants who do not know how to behave in a host country and, furthermore is a problem for the country external image, I'd be pissed too, and I'd be the first to round them up and send them back where they came from.
My only problem with the hateros is that they do not use international laws in order to correct the situation, they just want to perpetrate another genocide in order to clean the mess. They do not understand that, if those fellows have invaded their territory, it is because they've been forced into taking that extreme and desperate measure by the fact that their elite and their government do not provide to them enough standard of living in order to stay home.

I

This is what I’ve been telling Haitians we need to get to work and so now. We as a nation have the strength it is required to build up a country, we are hard workers. So, instead of investing their energy in a country where they’ve been treated like garbage, make the sacrifice for your own country. Furthermore, is not going to be easy, but together we can do it. HAITIANS PLEASE COME HOME.

And if we want to be impartial and not acting like the Dominicans in their analysis of the situation, we must admit the fact, that our peasants know very well how to behave when they migrate legally or illegally in North America. They might be the poorest community there, however, overally, they manage to blend with their host society overthere. Why, because they follow the rules of hygiene and all the others that those societies have cast upon them.

The only way I can blame the hateros is the fact they are practicing a racist policy toward anyone who is black in there country (even their own nationals are not spared by their nasty fascism). If they were serious about solving the problem, they would have sat down with us and regulate the human and goods traffic throughout the border line. However, once again, there are too many big fish that will lose their lucrative illegal migration trade from both sides.
They do understand the problem however, they won't solve it.

Oupala07 you've got it right, it is not easy to meet people like you with such understanding.

Oupala07 I don’t know your background but the way you process the information, your level of understanding and your judgement refers me to what I call the classy Haitian. I have a problem whenever I have to discuss with low class people even I am a down to earth person.

Haiti,

It is not the Hateros fault : they've been brainwashed. They don't understand that their economic wellbeing depends tremendously on us. However, their politicians and industry leaders are quick to realize and to understand that if the border is shut down, it's a big chunk of their PIB that would go down the drain. However, like Don Quichotte, they are trying to fight an enemy that isn't there. And if our politicians were not ass kissers fitted with a slavish personality, the tremendous trade imbalance between our two countries would have been solved long time ago.

If you are living in North America, you got to remember the "soft wood" dumping row that burst between the Canadians and the Americans: the americans, in order to correct the dumping of their soft wood industry into their north east market, had slapped that canadian industry a 27% customs fee at their port of entry. The Canadians were swift to correct their shameless behavior.

However, do you think with the kind of underachievers that plundering our nations, the same thing would happen. No, because you have to remember that if in 1939 we have gracefully offered the Cibao to the Dominicans, it is because our negociators were offered hot women and booze, and they signed the documents that deprived us of almost one third of our territory.
If you listen and assess what those incompetent has done in order to solve the Unions war, you can expect that nothing will be solve at all and that the dominicans will still keep enjoying a more than six to one advantage of dollars amount in the transborder trade.
I think the best way to save our country is not to get mad at the dominicans but to shoot our politicians that do not do the job for which the were elected.
As for the Hateros, the round up and the deportation of our nationals on their territory do not really constitute a problem for me : I would have acted the same way.

The only problem I have with them is their racism and arrogance toward us. And every time they venture on that path, I'll be more than happy to square with them, after that, they can bring the rhum and the cigar and the women.

oupala
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appalekaka ?
oupala is still talking s ...t

"Written by: oupala07, 28 May 2009 8:41 PM
From: Canada
However, do you think with the kind of underachievers that plundering our nations, the same thing would happen. No, because you have to remember that if in 1939 we have gracefully offered the Cibao to the Dominican
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Laut ,can someone care to drop some knowledge here, I understand we did not loose territory to the contrary we end up with more

etiennec01,

Your pea soup brain cannot, and I repeat, cannot make the difference between conversation and provocation. I gave my opinion, and I am pretty certain that even Lautaro is puzzled by them. In fact, he did not expect me to be that honest about the problems that are plaguing our two nations.
And yes mister Lautaro, this is the first time that a nation which used to dominate another one ended up giving to that latter a big chunk of territory that supposes to remain its own.
It's like the United States giving back California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada to the Mexicans. If our negotiators were not childish idiots and traitors, the Trujillo genocide would have never be. In fact, it was exactly the reason why that bloody dictator has got rid of the Haitian population living on the Cibao. However, it is the past and we haitians must cope with that historic blunder.

Excuse me for the mistake, instead of Lautaro, i did mean antonioj. Sorry again.

So mister etiennec,

You seem to be those haitians who are so ashamed of their nationality that they are hiding among our foe. I have no problem with that, because we haitian negroes, have freed ourselves from the chains that were restraining our feet and arms, but a lot among us have never got rid of the ones that shut down their brain and are still keeping it under bondage. And later on, when the economic tide will turn in or favor, you'll be as usual, the first to fly the blue and red. Don't worry, I can sniff people like you from miles ahead.
Just put into your little pea soup brain that you might fool the hateros but not me, I've been following your double language for quite a while. What's the matter to you? Can't feel the heat of rejection by our racist cousins? Or did your Dominican girl friend or woman threaten to keep you out of her panty if you dare defend us against her racists pals? You must know that we haitians can't be shaken by you and neither by them.

It's hard to make sense of some of antoine's gibberish but it seems he is implying they GAVE us the CIBAO!!!

In reality according to treaties it is a large chunk of Haiti that belongs to us but as long as it's filled with Haitians we don't want it .

Now if one of these sons of Dessalines would like to show us just how they gave us el Cibao i'm sure my compatriots and I would appreciate it.

Knowing our past with the Dominicans and knowing how they convey their message anti Haitians today. How is it that we get ourselves stock when it comes to basic necessities. We must stop this crap, I'm tired of the situation, I hope some investors with vision and pride will get together in order to solve this problem once for all. Our economy will be flourishing, thousands of jobs will be available and finally Haitians will stop crossing the border. It’s so simple, HAITIANS COME HOME AND INVEST HOME.

Haiti,I support your position 100% please convince all your compatriots to leave !

Mr Pepe32,

Would you convince yours to leave our territory too? Even if they are a few thousands, I think if you don't want us in your country, I don't see why we would want you in ours. Then would you convince the Dominican government to shut down the border and stop trading with us?
My friend, don't you worry, I have become rational and pragmatic, I think you too, one of these days, you will get up one moning and find yourself a complete individual because the devil in you will have decided to live your soul.
And you call yourself a devote catholic. I think you should start reading loud what you write and listen to it after recording it. You'll be amazed how false it sounds.
Let me ask you a question, do you know what a human being's body becomes after two weeks being left exposed on the bare ground? If you knew, I think it would have made you become more compasionate toward your peer, and it would have made you less arrogant.

I admit O, you are quite the intellectual and do manage to display some much needed class on this forum. Please dont stoop to the level of some of these participants who are trying to lure you into a verbal pig sty of ugly mother jokes ,as Im enjoying your comments and insights even if I dont agree with all of them.

Don't you worry Bailaran,

I will stay classy even with moron, however, you must try to make them realize that their semantique is false, by splashing it into their face, you and I and some well intended others, can try to help fascists like that reason out. They are the proof that education is not enough to comprehend the scope of the advantage of being civilized.

I will always fly in your wing as long as I can see you from my cockpit.

In the Kingdom of God , Haitians and Dominicans will sit at the same table and break bread at the feast of Abraham Isaac and Jacob .Come quickly Lord Jesus. I admit , I have a very ( sometimes warped ) sense of humor that offends many at times, but I offer no apologies as I am the first to ridicule and laugh at my own Italian bloodline as I similtaneously bust upon my Dominican and Haitian friends and neighbors . It would seem atleast a little senseless for a white Gringo like me to live in a city where the ratio of Haitians and Dominicans is almost equal and have the hatred or even the predjudice that some have openly displayed on this forum while accusing me of the same . The kind of hatred and ignorance that these individuals sweat out of thier pores is rooted in thier aquired fear of the percieved boogey man under the bed , not factual personal experience.

Amen! That's what people don't understand my friend.