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Santo Domingo.– Spain could supply funding for six new prisons in the Dominican Republic though some people consider the real problem is the growing amount of ex convicts arriving each month from U.S. penitentiary facilities.

Despite being recently named the country with the best prison system in Latin America –along with Costa Rica–, the real challange is the numerous ex convicts coming from American prisons which cannot be considered models of rehabilitation but rather centers for hardened prison gangs with many inmates being treated for communicable diseases such as AIDS and Hepatitis C.

Statistics reveal that this year over 1,256 ex convicts have been flown back to the Dominican Republic from U.S. prisons, while nearly 4,000 are about to finish their sentences.


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Written by: FredCDobbs This user is banned, 30 May 2009 11:50 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona
Despite being recently named the country with the best prison system in Latin America by various drug dealers and Baninter Bankers it does not have a spa or coaxial cable service and the beer has been known to be not so cold lately and not up to Bailarins standards for doing time
Written by: Belly, 30 May 2009 12:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas
it would be nice is our school systems had such high rankings as our prison system but that's to much to ask for. How about we use that money to find new programs that are more up to date in school with the real world and later we could use the same cheap engineer that have been doing road construction in Duarte Province to build 6 very cheap prison anyways is not like we are putting them for vacation time at all hey maybe it would remind them not to commit crimes next time they are out. How about we spend more money on primary education and stop worrying about having pretty prison cells.
Written by: CarlosFranco, 30 May 2009 12:48 PM
From: United States, Brooklyn


They should all be given a chance but that chance is not to be abused.

Adopt the 3 strike rule for Dominicans who are deported...

1. Deportation equal first strike...
2. a crime done in the DR after deportation second strike...
3. a second crime done after deportation.... probable cause and justification that the criminal cannot live in a civilize society and should be put to death... by the various means our national police already uses...

Quite simple really!
Written by: ladronaso, 30 May 2009 1:25 PM
From: United States
Put to death is a little harsh. I suggest reserving one of these prisons for those criminals committing the most heinous crimes. Leaving them in mandatory solitary confinement. I dont trust Dominican legal system in any case to administer death sentences. Dominicans inherent nature to be manipulated by his own corrupt interpretation of what is ethical and moral would leave any death sentence questionable and unfair.

I also believe that those who will be staying for extended period of 10-20 years should be submitted to hard labor programs manufacturing supplies and equipment for Government projects. Prisoners sentenced to 21-30 years, Chain gangs in country sides breaking rocks removing litter and debris as well as graffiti from national parks. I do like the tree strikes idea.
Written by: juanb, 30 May 2009 2:53 PM
From: Dominican Republic
As some have just found out, and many have known for a long time, a prison sentence is no longer punishment for those who can afford it.
Written by: etiennc01, 30 May 2009 3:02 PM
From: United States
one of the serious problem facing theDominican Republic, I would like to see how concerned and vocal can we be.
I also would like to read what sensitive solutions can we offer.
Written by: reveontiveros, 30 May 2009 3:05 PM
From: United States Virgin Islands
I cant believe money is being spent to feed these low lifes when kids in bayaguana are dieing of hunger. i cant freaken believe it let them die! i think its a lot more logical to let them die rather then having kids in doom-inican republic die from hunger or medical issues.
Written by: BASTA, 30 May 2009 3:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
Great, for the PLD/PRD members!
Written by: antonioj, 30 May 2009 4:24 PM
From: Canada, home safe
is this is joke "Despite being recently named the country with the best prison system in Latin America "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_xP-MZVb3M

This is the chain gang from the us street, I want to be just like them when I grow up "ya tu sabes mi pana y la baina ra hasta la muerte"
Written by: Vivacuba, 30 May 2009 6:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The money to build these ghoolags should be coming from the U.S. as they have labeled and further hardened them the criminals they are (or are not). Why not do like the U.S. does and contract these prisons out to private companies located in Haiti? Keep the DR land clean and free. The U.S. should also be billed back for the acceptance of these political prisoners. China wouldn't accept a return deportee without torturing them upon their return why should the DR welcome them with new prisons. The US wanted to keep them so bad in prison there, let them keep them there for life if they wanted them so badly. No returned DR citizens allowed back. Period.
Written by: antonioj, 30 May 2009 7:19 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: Vivacuba, 30 May 2009 6:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic
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Well said cubanito, these folks were molded in the us, it's totally unfair to ship them to a system they hardly know sh?t about.
Written by: hvargas, 30 May 2009 7:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic
When people in this forum have a relative or a son or daughter in a D.R. prison perhaps they will have a different view. D.R. prisons are not something to be proud of as far as conditions are concermed and most re treated like animals for the exceptions of those with influence and money. This is also true for U.S. prison as far as for those with influnce and money where they can play golf and eat better than the finest restaurant. Out of the many prisoners in D.R. only a few have such priveliges --- present the real pictures and everyone will agree thats no conditions for a human person to live or to do time ............
Written by: BASTA, 30 May 2009 7:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
These bad ass Dominicans should not have gone to the US anyway.
Written by: DRbabi809, 30 May 2009 8:37 PM
From: United States, MD
what the heck? DR having the BEST prison sysytem in latin america.......i think thats hard to believe.
Written by: ladronaso, 30 May 2009 9:06 PM
From: United States
RE:: hvargas, 30 May 2009 7:28 PM
When people in this forum have a relative or a son or daughter in a D.R. prison perhaps they will have a different view............
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Now put the shoe on the other foot. Consider being a victim of a crime by some low life inconsiderate maggot who steels your possession, inflicts emotional, physical, psychological pain, and harm on your son, daughter, family member; someone who's paucity of deference toward life and personal property; a waste of sperm that's has only one ambition, to get what ever he can from whomever regardless of the cost; being an Innocent victim of some inconsiderate MF. For those who arrive in the U.S. legally/illegally and did not exploit the huge opportunities in the U.S. to advance and are deported after jail time, guess what? "Pal carajo". Let him dwell on the pain he has inflicted while rotting in a sea of maggots in jail. Yea it's easy to demonstrate and exercise pity if your not the victim.
Written by: FredCDobbs This user is banned, 31 May 2009 12:52 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona
ladrone again you impress me by how far you can move from the whiny liberal position of victimhood to who is the real victim and responsibility personal for your actions .We have to stop making the criminal the victim and consider society the victim
Written by: zooma, 31 May 2009 8:07 AM
From: United States
After the horrible fire and resultant deaths at the Higuey jail in 2005 the government embarked on a project to build a new jail. It is now 2009, four years later, there is a partially constructed jail on the other side of the river Duey from central Higuey. The project is on hold and one can rationalize it will stay on hold forever. This culture makes you think the same will happen for the six new prisons, the government will get the funding and do nothing with it.

The convicts returning from the U.S. went to the states legally of illegally with a home grown behavior to pillage from the government and people. They found slim pickings in the D.R. so the agenda is.... go where the money is. They made the decision to go criminal and they got caught. So why should the U.S. foot the bill indefinately for their bad decisions. They paid their debt to society and U.S. sent them back to where they came from.
Written by: FredCDobbs This user is banned, 31 May 2009 8:34 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona
Zooma says ...." the government will get the funding and do nothing with it. ".....Not so zoomy they will buy new Land Cruisers for themselves
Written by: BLANCO, 1 Jun 2009 9:53 AM
From: Dominican Republic
anothr idea....build a prison for the DEPRO clients and have them pay for their stay with the money they stole from the govnment (people)
Written by: FredCDobbs This user is banned, 1 Jun 2009 6:05 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona
Now now dominipapi gc has gone to the big internet in the sky and the jackal is fighting off black flies in Northern Alberta waiting for winter
Written by: hvargas, 1 Jun 2009 7:33 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Ladronaso; I have been and I'm still a victim to crime committed by many people. My life and rights as a human person had been violated, constantly. The problem is that there are certain kinds of crimes and criminals. Those who get caught and those who are not: another problem is proving how a life is violated inside a court room. Most people are criminals but the different is that some give in to temptations while others hold themselves back. Given a situation such as what has taken place in my life and you will choose to do just as all had done. My grandmother was assulted and stab by two people who wanted to enter into her home. The police arrieved at the same time she was being assulted. This costs her to lose her home and a few years later she died. I had seen more criminals wearing their innocents and washing themselves off what they label CRIMINALS. These are people that do not paid for the crimes t they committ upon another. JUST HOW INNOCCENT ARE YOU ??????????
Written by: ladronaso, 2 Jun 2009 9:43 PM
From: United States
Crime: an action or omission that constitutes an offense that may be prosecuted by the state and is punishable by law

Criminal: a person who has committed a crime
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I would argue. I would say we all have the capacity to be criminals, murderers, anything we want. Capacity is not a motivation to crime. Crimes are committed for many reasons some known, unknown. Some are innocent actions that result into crimes. The issue should not be the fact a crime has been committed but the gravity and the degree of the crime and wether or not there has been damages or a violation of ones constitutional, civil rights and liberties. Now I'm am not proposing that someone who had the misfortune of being arrested in NY for minor misdemeanor or infraction and was deported as an illegal alien that he should suffer injustice of protracted perpetual sentence. The quantum of punishment must be appropriate to the crime and it should be administered judiciously.
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