Teeming Capotillo again at the center of tragedy.
SANTO DOMINGO.- Inhabitants of the sprawling barrio Capotillo threatened to continue their protests on Friday and demanded the arrest of those responsible for the deaths two youngsters in that locality Thursday afternoon.
Since early Friday morning, police units patrol the slum’s streets to avert new incidents, as community leaders warn of retaliation on the part of the residents.
“We’re going to be here peacefully accompanying the relatives of the two victims and continue with the permanent struggle until the two people who shot the Capotillo residents are caught,” said Raymundo Ferreras, a teacher.
Meanwhile the community leader Ana Gertrudis asked the chief of Police for justice and to investigate the killings, “because it is now that Capotillo is standing up and the women are ready to go out at any moment necessary, because that’s our right and it’s the Government’s duty to respond for those deaths.”
The residents say the mobilizations will continue until the electric and other basic services return to normal.
Written by: josean, 17 Jul 2009 12:08 PM
From: United States
Lie-onel Fernadez you wouldn't be able to pass this buck!
From: Dominican Republic
I came up to one of these protest the other day we just jumped out and moved one of the burning logs. People were yelling and mad that we had done this but we were trying to get to Santo Domingo for an emergency. I had no idea how serious they were taking these protests.
I do know i pay for my electric bill here in Samana twice the amount what i paid in the states and the power is off half the day. Its so hot in the day that to have at least one fan would make you feel you were not a caveman. But i couldnt imagine the crime you would have at night with no electricity.
Why do they shut the power off? Seems it would be better for the economy if shops could have power on all day. What do i know. Not much i guess
Written by: xwill7, 17 Jul 2009 12:25 PM
From: United States, Chicago
undertaker,
at least Samana feels cooler in the day. Imagine being in SD or Santiago with no AC! The heat bouncing off the concrete is brutal
Written by: juanb, 17 Jul 2009 12:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic
There is no power because we have imbeciles and thieves in charge. You new around here?
From: Dominican Republic
Juanb, Si been there done that. And we still have august,Sept. I think its funny when my company sends people down here they get to stay in nice hotels and always say you are so lucky to get to live here. They have NO idea of the hardships of living here.
Written by: josean, 17 Jul 2009 12:56 PM
From: United States
"They have NO idea of the hardships of living here."
undertaker,
You are so right; and a significant number of wealthy Dominicans don't either because the turn a blind eye and despise the poor masses of the Dominican Republic.
Written by: xwill7, 17 Jul 2009 1:11 PM
From: United States, Chicago
when you have money to spend in DR, life is good. But when you have no money life is ruff
Written by: Patricia, 17 Jul 2009 1:39 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Show me one, "only one" meter in this whole barrio.
This Parasitic thieves never paid one cent for electricity in their life and have tho balls
to turn the streets on fire. What do you think why their is not enough energy in this Country ?
57% of the generated electricity in this Country are stolen.
Show me one place on earth where the government has to provide free electricity to the poor !?
From: Dominican Republic
These sprawling barrios show up illegaly and growth our proportion (from internal migration leaving the country side abandoned) and then they demand free energy, water, jobs, and waste removal.
This is the type of illegality that is killing DR. it is brought about by the intense localized investment in STO DGO/Santiago that leads to geographical polarization. That attracts more people to the cities leaving behind an open country for the illegal aliens.
Like Patricia said, these interlopers never comply with the simple responsibility of paying for what you consumed. Instead these interlopers push for socialized (mandatory) social services so they can prosper without paying their dues. This parasitic behavior should not be fed anymore. So they use violence to extort the dominican society. WE SHOULD NOT PAY SYMPATHY TO THESE HOLES!
Written by: BASTA, 17 Jul 2009 3:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
Patricia, Yo donkey I have a meter and do not have elect. 8 hours a day in fact the other week it was off for 2 days and I say anyone who backs this government is a stupid ass or on crack!
Written by: josean, 17 Jul 2009 3:25 PM
From: United States
You see what I mean undertaker capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich.
People are more incensed about the helpless poor rioting than the putrid rich and their cronies mismanaging and ripping off the country.
Written by: josean, 17 Jul 2009 3:36 PM
From: United States
This is how bad the electrical company is in DR.
I have a friend who just moved into a rented house. She went to the electrical company to establish her contract. They told they could not issue a new contract until the former tenant paid their bill. My friend said I have nothing to do with the former tenant I just want to assume my responsibility for the service I am using as of the first of July. They refused and said if the former tenant (who is unknown to my friend) does not pay the will come out and shut the service.
Now this is the modernity Lie-onel Fernandez and his cronies have bought to DR!
Written by: danny00, 17 Jul 2009 4:13 PM
From: United States
PATRICIA your RIGHT, or almost right in your thoughts..... just came from santiago my sister lives in a good area pays her bills on the 1st day of the month, ok in her building they rented one apt to a family for rds$14,000 a month..... well when they move in the other day they went to steal the elec., "why pay".... they killed the elec. for the whole building not knowing how to do do this the correct way i guess, so no one in the building had elec for almost two days.
Written by: danny00, 17 Jul 2009 4:18 PM
From: United States
so every one that lives in this nice building with nice people where really upset.
if they can pay this much rent why steal the elec?...and i lived in chetmual mexico for 2 years..... not one day did i not have elec power, i live in belize 3 years not one day with out power....
what the hell is going on in the dr?....its all bullsh--.....years ago they had general elec. the biggest company in the world in the dr to make power the government ask them to live.
well the drug dealers need some where to clean and wash their dirty money right?
Written by: danny00, 17 Jul 2009 4:24 PM
From: United States
josean.... i also and family members had the SAME problem, not only with the elec company with the cable company.... we show them the contract that was signed with the owner of the building, the date it was signed.... shit they dont want to know any thing, only that the people before did not pay them..... it took some song and dance and many days to fix this problem......sought of a nitemare......
Written by: danny00, 17 Jul 2009 4:51 PM
From: United States
corruption corruption, corruption
daily news new york city today... headlines front page
councilmen miguel martinez { washington heights}..
councilmen faces 57 months in jail for stealing $106,000us from the poor to give to himself.
thank god this could never happen in the dr. i mean to steal from the poor to give to them selfs.... never would this happen in the dr.....never, never, never, never, thank good for the people in office now in santo domingo.... thank god,
Written by: danny00, 17 Jul 2009 4:59 PM
From: United States
some of the money was to go to washington heights art center
the deal from the feds is 57-71 months jail time.... hes out on $250,000us bond...said in federal yesterday that he stoled the first day he went to work as a councilmen in the bronx....like the politicians in the dr.... they cant wait to get into office... so they can rape the country...
Written by: danny00, 17 Jul 2009 5:02 PM
From: United States
wealthy Dominicans ONLY HELP THEM SELFS AS THEY TREAT THEIR OWN PEOPLE LIKE SLAVES..... wake up!
Written by: josean, 17 Jul 2009 5:26 PM
From: United States
Written by: danny00, 17 Jul 2009 5:02 PM
From: United States
wealthy Dominicans ONLY HELP THEM SELFS AS THEY TREAT THEIR OWN PEOPLE LIKE SLAVES..... wake up!
Unfortunately most do Danny!
Written by: antonio1, 17 Jul 2009 8:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
Protects only run from Monday to Friday.
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
danny0 and josean I am not a native Dominican although I am a resident here and love my adopted country ..One of the saddest things is exactly what you have written ..once a Dominican becomes wealthy they have no respect for other Dominicans who have not achieved their income level . That has been told to me by so many people working for wealthy Dominican families and I see it every day here in la Romana and in the capital. Sure it is a generalisation but it seems to be very much the case .
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Patricia & Allum,
Very well stated; nothing left to add. Additional statements likely superfluous.
Written by: Juango, 17 Jul 2009 9:50 PM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Ricardo, I too have the same experiences and concur totally with your statement above. I have no "Latin Blood" nor any roots in the DR or any other Latin country. I do however have many fond memories of the time I spent in the DR and also considered it my adoptive home for years. The BS became too much for this Gringo, so I moved back to my real home, the USA. The way many wealthy Dominican live and treat their fellow countrymen and hired hands, is beyond me. There are also many Dominicans, that pretend to be wealthy (and are not) and have exhibited this same attitude. Perhaps Greedy Superiority , are the words that best fit.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Juango,
I read the evolving commentaries in this forum with greatest sadness, as I am a throwback to another era, when integrity and a man's word were worth everything.
Even though I was born in DR, we were always considered foreigners because of our French heritage and fact I was second generation dominican.
Still I look at my adolescent years in DR with great fondness and hoped one day I could return to the lush green country with deep azure beaches. We still own appreciable property there, even though the Balaguer govt confiscated our most valuable beach-front property.
I have not traveled to DR since 1981. Was planning to travel there this year to relocate parents, but they are scared to go back. Plans are on hold and we might sell off property. Situation too chaotic and crime too high, and prices on par with US-not to mention electricity situation.
All in all, we are not encouraged to return.
Sad. Very sad indeed!
Written by: anthonyC, 17 Jul 2009 11:08 PM
From: United States
"The residents say the mobilizations will continue until the electric and other basic services return to normal."
if it was up to me I would be more than happy too...once they pay their bills.
From: United States
Segura should be held responsible for the deaths.
He has created a nationwide catastrophe.
Written by: Vivacuba, 19 Jul 2009 2:35 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Josean,...Yes, I see what you arie saying ...but then again, look who the incensed ones are blaming the poor people with no power here...the gringo yankees with their blinders on well used to being fed mairda from their own twisted govt controlled media in the north relaxing on their sofa with their A/C running 24/7. Easy for them to criticize the wrong responsible parties.
Written by: mrios, 19 Jul 2009 1:09 PM
From: United States
Glomarexplorer,
I hear what your saying.....I'm also 2nd generation Dominican from a PR / Spanish ancestry. Like you I'm from the old School when a Man's word was his Honor.
If and when I ever relocate to the DR.......THINK GREEN, I'm investing in a Solar/wind for power, Rain water collection with filtration & pump system, plant my on fruits with life stock [reminiscing of years and a life style gone, but not forgotten]. Not to forget the one most single important item that will never fail me..........A firearm with plenty of ammo for the protection of my Family and myself. Wishing you the best of luck on your future plans Brother.
Take care
Written by: Grosero, 20 Jul 2009 7:29 AM
From: United States
Burning Down the House
From: Dominican Republic
The poor always will be with us......just get used to it...if not go to INDIA, and you'll faint once you land
Written by: mrios, 21 Jul 2009 12:02 PM
From: United States
POWER THIEF BEING SUCH A PROBLEM !...WITH NO END IN SIGHT.
It seems to me People in the DR are always looking for ways to become dependent on the Gov. instead of finding solutions to there own created problems, and as always Government falls short, thus forming excuses that the Government has the obligation and responsibility to fulfill their personal wants and needs.
One would think, People after seeing time and time again the Governments short comings...One would think it would open one up to self reliance and dependency. The money spent and wasted on failed systems over and over again. Individuals or group of Individual home owners should privately invest there monies on alternative power sources like solar/wind.
Example: Most private Communities in the DR realizing this already have private alternative power sources, security, water etc..etc..thus avoiding the Gov. B&^% S#$@ and becoming self reliant.
Wake up DR "NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION"
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I do know i pay for my electric bill here in Samana twice the amount what i paid in the states and the power is off half the day. Its so hot in the day that to have at least one fan would make you feel you were not a caveman. But i couldnt imagine the crime you would have at night with no electricity.
Why do they shut the power off? Seems it would be better for the economy if shops could have power on all day. What do i know. Not much i guess
at least Samana feels cooler in the day. Imagine being in SD or Santiago with no AC! The heat bouncing off the concrete is brutal
undertaker,
You are so right; and a significant number of wealthy Dominicans don't either because the turn a blind eye and despise the poor masses of the Dominican Republic.
This Parasitic thieves never paid one cent for electricity in their life and have tho balls
to turn the streets on fire. What do you think why their is not enough energy in this Country ?
57% of the generated electricity in this Country are stolen.
Show me one place on earth where the government has to provide free electricity to the poor !?
This is the type of illegality that is killing DR. it is brought about by the intense localized investment in STO DGO/Santiago that leads to geographical polarization. That attracts more people to the cities leaving behind an open country for the illegal aliens.
Like Patricia said, these interlopers never comply with the simple responsibility of paying for what you consumed. Instead these interlopers push for socialized (mandatory) social services so they can prosper without paying their dues. This parasitic behavior should not be fed anymore. So they use violence to extort the dominican society. WE SHOULD NOT PAY SYMPATHY TO THESE HOLES!
People are more incensed about the helpless poor rioting than the putrid rich and their cronies mismanaging and ripping off the country.
I have a friend who just moved into a rented house. She went to the electrical company to establish her contract. They told they could not issue a new contract until the former tenant paid their bill. My friend said I have nothing to do with the former tenant I just want to assume my responsibility for the service I am using as of the first of July. They refused and said if the former tenant (who is unknown to my friend) does not pay the will come out and shut the service.
Now this is the modernity Lie-onel Fernandez and his cronies have bought to DR!
if they can pay this much rent why steal the elec?...and i lived in chetmual mexico for 2 years..... not one day did i not have elec power, i live in belize 3 years not one day with out power....
what the hell is going on in the dr?....its all bullsh--.....years ago they had general elec. the biggest company in the world in the dr to make power the government ask them to live.
well the drug dealers need some where to clean and wash their dirty money right?
daily news new york city today... headlines front page
councilmen miguel martinez { washington heights}..
councilmen faces 57 months in jail for stealing $106,000us from the poor to give to himself.
thank god this could never happen in the dr. i mean to steal from the poor to give to them selfs.... never would this happen in the dr.....never, never, never, never, thank good for the people in office now in santo domingo.... thank god,
the deal from the feds is 57-71 months jail time.... hes out on $250,000us bond...said in federal yesterday that he stoled the first day he went to work as a councilmen in the bronx....like the politicians in the dr.... they cant wait to get into office... so they can rape the country...
From: United States
wealthy Dominicans ONLY HELP THEM SELFS AS THEY TREAT THEIR OWN PEOPLE LIKE SLAVES..... wake up!
Unfortunately most do Danny!
Very well stated; nothing left to add. Additional statements likely superfluous.
I read the evolving commentaries in this forum with greatest sadness, as I am a throwback to another era, when integrity and a man's word were worth everything.
Even though I was born in DR, we were always considered foreigners because of our French heritage and fact I was second generation dominican.
Still I look at my adolescent years in DR with great fondness and hoped one day I could return to the lush green country with deep azure beaches. We still own appreciable property there, even though the Balaguer govt confiscated our most valuable beach-front property.
I have not traveled to DR since 1981. Was planning to travel there this year to relocate parents, but they are scared to go back. Plans are on hold and we might sell off property. Situation too chaotic and crime too high, and prices on par with US-not to mention electricity situation.
All in all, we are not encouraged to return.
Sad. Very sad indeed!
if it was up to me I would be more than happy too...once they pay their bills.
Segura should be held responsible for the deaths.
He has created a nationwide catastrophe.
I hear what your saying.....I'm also 2nd generation Dominican from a PR / Spanish ancestry. Like you I'm from the old School when a Man's word was his Honor.
If and when I ever relocate to the DR.......THINK GREEN, I'm investing in a Solar/wind for power, Rain water collection with filtration & pump system, plant my on fruits with life stock [reminiscing of years and a life style gone, but not forgotten]. Not to forget the one most single important item that will never fail me..........A firearm with plenty of ammo for the protection of my Family and myself. Wishing you the best of luck on your future plans Brother.
Take care
It seems to me People in the DR are always looking for ways to become dependent on the Gov. instead of finding solutions to there own created problems, and as always Government falls short, thus forming excuses that the Government has the obligation and responsibility to fulfill their personal wants and needs.
One would think, People after seeing time and time again the Governments short comings...One would think it would open one up to self reliance and dependency. The money spent and wasted on failed systems over and over again. Individuals or group of Individual home owners should privately invest there monies on alternative power sources like solar/wind.
Example: Most private Communities in the DR realizing this already have private alternative power sources, security, water etc..etc..thus avoiding the Gov. B&^% S#$@ and becoming self reliant.
Wake up DR "NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION"