SANTO DOMINGO.- The Presidency’s ethics and drugs adviser on Monday said there’s a need to conduct a census to determines what the more than 4,000 Colombians who live in Dominican Republic do.
Marino Vinicio (Vincho) Castillo, interviewed in his National Palace office, said the Colombian Mafia is involved in the most recent case where the authorities seized 4.6 million dollars, vehicles, articles and guns in an apartment in Santo Domingo’s exclusive Esperilla sector.
He said it’s a mistake for the authorities not to demand a visa from the Colombians who own United States visa to enter the country, a situation he affirms has led to the entry to Dominican territory of some nationals from that nation with forged American visas.
Castillo affirmed that more than 25,000 Colombians live in Haiti, who sometimes cross Dominican Republic’s border illegally.
Written by: BASTA, 7 Sep 2009 4:16 PM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
Well so keep my stash full.
Written by: THINK, 7 Sep 2009 4:21 PM
From: United States, Santo Domingo -- Mia --NY
Mr. Castillo:
Because so many high public figures also involved the "EASY MONEY BUSINESS." period.
Written by: Cacique, 7 Sep 2009 4:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I figure half that figure is making a living at night...
Written by: NYCDR, 7 Sep 2009 4:29 PM
From: United States
Since we are questioning what are 4000 Colombians doing living in DR. We might as well ask what are the other immigrants doing here? example: what are the people from Venezuela, Ecuador, Canada, Spain, other European Countries, Haiti, etc.,
There needs to be a control and or a census as to what is the purpose of their stay, are these people abiding citizens or are they in deviant activities,and if so, just like the American government prosecute and send them back. Its only fair, we have more than we can handle.
From: United States
What do 4000 Colombians do in the DR? They're pilots, flight schedulars, freight handlers,logisticians and accountants. Others work in the warehouse.... shipping, receiving, delivery, distribution, wholesale, and retail sales. Then there's corporate security and private banking......it's the same thing they do in Haiti, NY, Miami.....
Written by: Gringo_1, 7 Sep 2009 5:54 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Maimon (Bonao)
What is "Paya Fudge"?
Written by: NYCDR, 7 Sep 2009 6:21 PM
From: United States
DoggPound, LOL let them provide these services to their home countries.. : )
From: Haiti
Colombians in Haiti have a shady reputation by the locals mostly due to the fact that a lot of drug trafficking takes place due to their presence and connections. Drug money has been used to fuel the construction of several high profile mansions in the hills above Port-au-Prince and Aristide was reported to have close ties to Colombian drug dealers. Not all Colombians in Haiti are drug dealers and criminals however. A lot live normal daily lives and considered part of Haiti's very small middle class. Although I like Colombians and I don't disagree to them living in my country (and DR) I do believe they should be closely and strictly monitored seeing as the vast majority of drug related incidents involving nonwhite foreigners are Colombians themselves.
Written by: antonioj, 7 Sep 2009 6:48 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: NYCDR, 7 Sep 2009 4:29 PM
From: United States
Since we are questioning what are 4000 Colombians doing living in DR. We might as well ask what are the other immigrants doing here? example: what are the people from Venezuela, Ecuador, Canada, Spain, other European Countries, Haiti, etc.,
"
Your point above is excellent, however how can there be 25,000 Colombians in Haiti and only 20,000 Dominicans when they are just next door something is very fishy here. I bet if the trend continue 20 years from now the island will be dominated by narco, we will have to fight a costly war like Colombia did and the Mexican are figthing now.
From: United States
I'd like to point that Mr. Marino Vinicio (Vincho) Castillo is wrong about the number of colombian living in Haiti. Dominican is you must admit a booming country with opportunities so 4000 colombian should not be a problem don't you have more than 15000 american I will not touch the Haitian situation because most of them just croos the border and some for the acces to better life some for other reason but The DR will see a lot of people coming its way when succes is on your door step I love you
Written by: Letmic, 7 Sep 2009 8:03 PM
From: Australia
25,000 Colombians living in Haiti - I think Castillion should stop sampling the confiscated product just before his press confrences. I have been in Haiti on and off for the last 4 years and the only Colombians I have seen are the sexy chicas dancing around poles at night in Petion Ville? I wish there were 25,000 of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Written by: antonioj, 7 Sep 2009 8:12 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"
25,000 Colombians living in Haiti - I think Castillion should stop sampling the confiscated product just before his press confrences
"
lol, you think someone would have care to check the numbers first.
From: United States
antonioj, just being sacarstic of just plain naive ?
you know damn well what Haitians do in the Dominican Republic :lubricating the economic bearings of the country.
Remember to keep your comments relevant to the article ; What do more than 4000 Colombians do in the Dominican Republic
Written by: antonioj, 7 Sep 2009 9:22 PM
From: Canada, home safe
Thank you etienn, I just could not help it but to take a shot at the innacuracy posted above, with respect to the 4000 colombians in DR we all know they are there to work in the bateys and the construction industries you get my drift, any suggestions about drugs are high ly speculatives.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Kill them... The Colombians are here with the consent from the CIA... selling drugs killing our people...
From: Dominican Republic
NYCDR...I see you conveniently left off the list....Americans! Am I to assume that their presence here is not a concern????
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Punta cana MIke I thought you where a U.S. citizen ????
are you DOminican?
From: United States
Any country that is developping at this rate will attract investors ,hard working people looking for work, vagabonds , lazy and unskilled expatriates, criminals and what have you.
Some people (posters included ) are being paid(they know who they are) to keep the pressure on Haitians and blame them for all the ills of the country while ignoring the activities of other groups.
Finally, someone has the courage to question the activities of 4000 Colombians in his country
I will venture to ask what they so called white European expatriates are also doing in the country.
How do they manage to survive without working?
Written by: NYCDR, 8 Sep 2009 7:46 AM
From: United States
ANTONIO J., you wrote:
You point above is excellent, however how can there be 25,000 Colombians in Haiti and only 20,000 Dominicans when they are just next door something is very fishy here. I bet if the trend continue 20 years from now the island will be dominated by narco, we will have to fight a costly war like Colombia did and the Mexican are fighting now
The Dominican Republic is a tourist country, in which they are welcome, but the tourist should go home. Since Haiti is allowing Colombian to installs permanent residence and deviant behavior, and according to Leonel Haitians are our neighbors and we should help them, then we should remove all of our help (something the US uses to force any country so that the US can get their way). If any outside country feels that we are being bullies then PLEASE TAKE ALL THE HAITIANS AND COLOMBIANS WITH YOU.... Please.
Written by: pelaut, 8 Sep 2009 8:52 AM
From: United States
How many Dominicans are there in Columbia?
What do they do?
You know the answer to the second question. Maybe if the DR provided education as good as the Columbians they could come back and be flight controllers, etc......
From: United States
Once we get Haitiansor Haiti involved we will be able to be fair and objective . We will not be able to to discuss the problem intelligently.
We will do what we do best in this forum : trading insults.
Written by: juanb, 8 Sep 2009 9:25 AM
From: Dominican Republic
I'd rather find out what our 4000 legislators are doing here.
From: United States
Government corruption works its magic in many ways. When everyone is on the take drug cartels and all criminals in general are able to freely operate since their right to do what they want is easily bought off from our own officials. When you can transport drugs freely in the country with a police escort you need to start questioning your own people before worrying about the illegal visitors travelling with them. Getting rid of the criminals won't ever happen since all they have to do is pay off your corrupt officials and they can continue doing business your wasting your time.
Written by: josean, 8 Sep 2009 12:50 PM
From: United States
Mr. Castillo has a way with numbers ala Joe McCarthy. Just make them up and worry about the facts later.
Never let real facts get in the way of sensationalists scare tactics, eh Vincho!
Written by: NYCDR, 8 Sep 2009 1:50 PM
From: United States
Santeria, sorry to say this but you are a flake....
From: United States
looks like the dominican goverement wants to blame someone for the drug problem....of course NOT the dominicans, NOT the crooked politicians, police, DNCD, traffikers....etc....lets pin it on the columbians....everyone knows if you're columbian you were born into drugs!!
stereotyping/generalizing is a grey area
and whats paya fudge?
Written by: danny00, 8 Sep 2009 3:43 PM
From: United States
what a joke From: Dominican Republic, PLD : El Partido de la Liquidación Dominicana!
Kill them... The Colombians are here with the consent from the CIA... selling drugs killing our people... , again the c.i.a. EVERY THING IS THE UNTIED STATES ....... WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE C.I.A.?.... you know why they are here?... DOES A BEAR SHIT IN THE WOODS?..
COME ON GIVE ME A BREAK... ITS THE EASY MONEY AND THE DRUGS FOR MOST... who the heel wpold work for pesos when they can make dollars in the states or other countries.... come PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,
Written by: danny00, 8 Sep 2009 4:02 PM
From: United States
GUESS the c.a.i is also involved with DUGS and DOMINICANS IN wash heights in new york city... RIGHT?. must think about 500,000 dominicans are selling drugs in new york city... so i who GUESS the C.I.A. is behind this also.....BLAME EVERY ONE BUT THE DOMINICAN GOVERNMENT AND THEIR POLICE FORCES. THANK YOU JUNGLEMONKEY.... FOR YOUR THOUGHTS...
Written by: danny00, 8 Sep 2009 4:04 PM
From: United States
every young guy i know in the dominican republic their dream is to get one visa and go to new york and sell drugs who put this in their head?
Written by: danny00, 8 Sep 2009 4:05 PM
From: United States
oh! i forgot its the c.i.a. what a fool... think straight one time before you talk...
Written by: xwill7, 8 Sep 2009 4:06 PM
From: United States, Chicago
deport them
Written by: danny00, 8 Sep 2009 4:08 PM
From: United States
tons of c.ia. agents working the streets of santo domingo and pop, santiago telling the young to sell drugs this is the way to go... yes i have seen this myself..... now you are happy with your thoughts on the c.i.a...., 1,000's of agents they are in the schools, in the campos, in the rivers,,, they are all over they are...what a joke some of the "stupid comments on this site", its all payoffs to very greedy people on the island.....and end of story...
Written by: danny00, 8 Sep 2009 4:10 PM
From: United States
deport them... this i like........but are the government going to do this and miss out on the big payoffs? mi dont think so....
Written by: lovingit, 8 Sep 2009 4:34 PM
From: United States, Delaware
I believe PuntaCanaMike is Canadian
As for the 4000 Colombians in DR, is that figure correct?
There was once an article posted right here on DT that it said 33% of the 15,000 Colombians in DR are thought to be involved in drug trafficking. That 33% more closely matches the 4000 mentioned here, so my guess is that they are singling out these 4000 from the whole population that they don't know what the heck they do in the country.
???
From: United States
What I'm wondering is what are 25,000 Colombians doing in Haiti??this is news to me.
From: Canada, montreal
the 25.000 colombians are in haiti to build the economy,they is no welfare overthere,anyway ,they
have to survive,eat , housing,pay taxes,they can all and seek for refugee and will be granted
dear freinds,they are there to run things.is it a problem
Written by: NYCDR, 8 Sep 2009 10:54 PM
From: United States
PuntaCanaMike, 7 Sep 2009 10:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic
NYCDR...I see you conveniently left off the list....Americans! Am I to assume that their presence here is not a concern????
Dude, I didn't, its just that whenever you hear someone got caught for drugs its someone from Europe if US citizens unfortunately of Dominican descent.
Written by: kmnupe, 9 Sep 2009 3:35 AM
From: United States, NYC
25,000 Colombians in Haiti? LOL! The crap that gets printed here is hilarious.
From: United States
I think is the other way around theres 25,000 colombians in dominican republic, and 4,000 in haiti and what are they doing there,they are trafficking drugs kidnapping people murdering people chopping heads off and making money. if iwas running the govenment I would round up everry colombian in the dominican republic and deport all the illegals and the ones that got papers i would have them supevised cause you could never trust a colombian
Written by: Camano, 9 Sep 2009 2:41 PM
From: United States
Previously Quoted By DogPound (They're pilots, flight schedulers, freight handlers,logistics and accountants. Others work in the warehouse.... shipping, receiving, delivery, distribution, wholesale,
Also Drugs wholesalers, Kidnappers, murderers on top of that don't like caribenos....
Written by: itsme, 12 Sep 2009 9:11 PM
From: Colombia
"on top of that don't like caribenos".... LOL!!
Camano... do you anything about geography? Check a map of Colombia before you write, please...
Written by: Camano, 12 Sep 2009 10:57 PM
From: United States
Previously Quoted By itsme ("on top of that don't like caribenos".... LOL!!
Camano... do you know anything about geography? Check a map of Colombia before you write, please..)
well i got news for you, i weren't talking about the costenos of Colombia we're talking about the majorities of Colombianos. Per Ejemplos los paisas, las gentes the Cali, Bogota, Tolimas etc. on top of that i graduated with a minor in Latin American studies and, my wife is Colombian. Colombia is located within the latitud and longitud of 04degree00north 72degree00west. Colombia is situated on the northwestern corner of South America.
Written by: itsme, 13 Sep 2009 10:22 PM
From: Colombia
What did they teach at your school that Caribeños were, then? Anyway... that could be up for debate.
Your wife is Colombian... huh, so based on what you said your wife is either costeña or she hates you... is that it? If not, then don't generalize and learn how to express yourself when you write, otherwise you're opening yourself up for misunderstanding. Furthermore, which type of work does your wife do since you're quoting those jobs that Colombians supposedly do?
And by the way, I am Paisa and I don't hate neither costeños nor what you call caribeños.
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Mr. Castillo:
Because so many high public figures also involved the "EASY MONEY BUSINESS." period.
There needs to be a control and or a census as to what is the purpose of their stay, are these people abiding citizens or are they in deviant activities,and if so, just like the American government prosecute and send them back. Its only fair, we have more than we can handle.
From: United States
Since we are questioning what are 4000 Colombians doing living in DR. We might as well ask what are the other immigrants doing here? example: what are the people from Venezuela, Ecuador, Canada, Spain, other European Countries, Haiti, etc.,
"
Your point above is excellent, however how can there be 25,000 Colombians in Haiti and only 20,000 Dominicans when they are just next door something is very fishy here. I bet if the trend continue 20 years from now the island will be dominated by narco, we will have to fight a costly war like Colombia did and the Mexican are figthing now.
25,000 Colombians living in Haiti - I think Castillion should stop sampling the confiscated product just before his press confrences
"
lol, you think someone would have care to check the numbers first.
you know damn well what Haitians do in the Dominican Republic :lubricating the economic bearings of the country.
Remember to keep your comments relevant to the article ; What do more than 4000 Colombians do in the Dominican Republic
are you DOminican?
Some people (posters included ) are being paid(they know who they are) to keep the pressure on Haitians and blame them for all the ills of the country while ignoring the activities of other groups.
Finally, someone has the courage to question the activities of 4000 Colombians in his country
I will venture to ask what they so called white European expatriates are also doing in the country.
How do they manage to survive without working?
You point above is excellent, however how can there be 25,000 Colombians in Haiti and only 20,000 Dominicans when they are just next door something is very fishy here. I bet if the trend continue 20 years from now the island will be dominated by narco, we will have to fight a costly war like Colombia did and the Mexican are fighting now
The Dominican Republic is a tourist country, in which they are welcome, but the tourist should go home. Since Haiti is allowing Colombian to installs permanent residence and deviant behavior, and according to Leonel Haitians are our neighbors and we should help them, then we should remove all of our help (something the US uses to force any country so that the US can get their way). If any outside country feels that we are being bullies then PLEASE TAKE ALL THE HAITIANS AND COLOMBIANS WITH YOU.... Please.
What do they do?
You know the answer to the second question. Maybe if the DR provided education as good as the Columbians they could come back and be flight controllers, etc......
We will do what we do best in this forum : trading insults.
Never let real facts get in the way of sensationalists scare tactics, eh Vincho!
stereotyping/generalizing is a grey area
and whats paya fudge?
Kill them... The Colombians are here with the consent from the CIA... selling drugs killing our people... , again the c.i.a. EVERY THING IS THE UNTIED STATES ....... WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE C.I.A.?.... you know why they are here?... DOES A BEAR SHIT IN THE WOODS?..
COME ON GIVE ME A BREAK... ITS THE EASY MONEY AND THE DRUGS FOR MOST... who the heel wpold work for pesos when they can make dollars in the states or other countries.... come PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,
As for the 4000 Colombians in DR, is that figure correct?
There was once an article posted right here on DT that it said 33% of the 15,000 Colombians in DR are thought to be involved in drug trafficking. That 33% more closely matches the 4000 mentioned here, so my guess is that they are singling out these 4000 from the whole population that they don't know what the heck they do in the country.
???
have to survive,eat , housing,pay taxes,they can all and seek for refugee and will be granted
dear freinds,they are there to run things.is it a problem
From: Dominican Republic
NYCDR...I see you conveniently left off the list....Americans! Am I to assume that their presence here is not a concern????
Dude, I didn't, its just that whenever you hear someone got caught for drugs its someone from Europe if US citizens unfortunately of Dominican descent.
Also Drugs wholesalers, Kidnappers, murderers on top of that don't like caribenos....
Camano... do you anything about geography? Check a map of Colombia before you write, please...
Camano... do you know anything about geography? Check a map of Colombia before you write, please..)
well i got news for you, i weren't talking about the costenos of Colombia we're talking about the majorities of Colombianos. Per Ejemplos los paisas, las gentes the Cali, Bogota, Tolimas etc. on top of that i graduated with a minor in Latin American studies and, my wife is Colombian. Colombia is located within the latitud and longitud of 04degree00north 72degree00west. Colombia is situated on the northwestern corner of South America.
Your wife is Colombian... huh, so based on what you said your wife is either costeña or she hates you... is that it? If not, then don't generalize and learn how to express yourself when you write, otherwise you're opening yourself up for misunderstanding. Furthermore, which type of work does your wife do since you're quoting those jobs that Colombians supposedly do?
And by the way, I am Paisa and I don't hate neither costeños nor what you call caribeños.