I believe that a human being has the right to life but in an environment where he/she is wanted, protected, provided for (until college age) and loved.

That is not the case for many people. I respect that. The worst thing is to have a child in the middle of a situation that is not desirable. Public assistance (which exist in DR) does not and should not be the dumping ground for parents that will not provide, care, love and protect their child.

Also, have you seen how these ignorant women who hear cliques and follow these like a true religion due to ignorance "on how to get rid of their unborn"

ex: throw yourself down a staircase, drink a bottle of aspirin, clean with clorox all day and scrub away that should it, go to the witch doctor he has a bottle that should do the trick, get someone to use a wire hanger and let them pull the child out,

Lets not forget the clandestine so called doctors that perform these horrific procedures that may make women steril. Horrible..

Don't get me wrong, I want to be a mother someday soon.

I respect the fact that not everyone wants the things I want.

I am 100% for women's right to choice. We are not in the middle ages any more. Furthermore this debate should not be a constitutional issue.

Generoso I’m with you but let’s hope cabarete don't hear about this article because if he does hold yourself tight. :)

He will come like flies around a t.rd to put his two cents worth.

I hate elective abortions because it demonstrates a fundamental injustice in the world; that a lack of education which is at the base of this, forces women into circumstances where they are used and abused.

If women and men had basic educational opportunities the incidence of unwanted pregnancies would dramatically go down. However educating the masses is very dangerous to the powers that be, because they would lose their domain of the “untutored mob.”

So I support a women’s right to choice although I would strongly counsel them to avoid getting pregnant until they are able to provide for their child a better life than they have had. This counseling must be done with respect for her decision and should not be based on guilt trips, fear, intimidation, and personal degradation or ostracizing in any form.

We will never move forward in DR in any arena, social, economic or political until we have a true educational revolution.

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Our lack of a world class competitive educational system is at the root of ALL our evils. While the development and implementation of a true modern national educational program can help to solve many, many of our problems.

Our very existence as a nationality depends on it period!

josean
From an idealistic point of view, yours is the "perfect world" view. Banning elective abortions just discriminates against the poor women that can not afford one in the first place, as the well to do always find a way.
Overpopulation grows and burdens the food supply of our already stressed to the max planet, and causes hunger, despair, misery and shortened life spans.
The mostly religious fundamentalist stand against contraception, and the right of women to choose, is not only outdated but as cruel as the inquisition at their prime, in it's denial of women's rights, claiming dogma and out of sync superstitious beliefs.

I back women who are prochoice 100%! Let every individual make their own decisions!

No male votes allowed!

De acuerdo contigo BASTA!

Well said Generoso,


I agree totally on that last one.

Yet I still would like to see money put into the system for education, as Josean says.

CIA World FactBook
Education expenditures:
3.6% of GDP (2006)
country comparison to the world: 126 out of 182.

Josean and I may not agree on many things but on education spending I am all in.

Professor,

I did not say or intended to imply banning anything! I was merely saying that any elective abortions are tragic and should be avoided at all cost. And to avoid them we must educate people as to the consequences of their actions and give them real opportunities to make better decisions and choices.

I would never deny a woman her right to choice and frankly us men should support our women not control and manipulate them.

And yes I plead guilty to being an idealist and wanting a perfect world, if not then there is no reason to live in my humble opinion!

Being an idealist is fine, but in the real world with some many different opinions, a good future politician, has to learn the art of compromise and negotiation, and be able to give and take.

WOW ! talk about being X'ed out......... AGAIN. What ever happened to my POST / COMMENT ?
I think some one out there does not want to hear the "VOICE OF CONSCIENCE", Probably a PROabortion survivor. How sad indeed, good thing I still live in America where the fist Amendment as of 9-9-09 still apply's .

MRIOS,

the language you used in your writing got you OUT...


We all respect the fact that you have your views, we just will not tolerate any fowl language no matter what point you are trying to bring across.


I did not major in Psychology MRIOS. But with all due respect , you need to check why you continue to want to play victim...and please no long speeches, do some silent soul searching.

Wishing the best,

NYCDR

NYCDR,
Compared to the what I've read in the past HUH ! playing VICTIM....are kidding me ! ALL at one time in there Life will see the Truth and Admit they were wrong. I post the Truth the way I see it, I view Life from every angle. If one finds fault then correct me I have no problem with that.

I'm MAN enough to Admit and Apologize when I'm wrong. I'm always open to new ideas different prospectives and angles, it's called COMMUNICATION.

"Silent Soul Searching" ALL THE TIME. Every time I post [Personal Soul Searching] it comes from my Faith, Morals, beliefs, Personal experience, Education and up bringing, it's fare to say most on this forum do the same.

In short.....The Truth is the Truth, some will twist / Ignore the Truth in order to strengthen their own Personal beliefs while others when the Truth is presented and it clashes against ones Personal beliefs as they see it FREAK OUT.
Did you read the last X'ed post on this issue ?
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NYCDR,
For many all threw Life going down stream, going with the flow is alright, its easy.....until One changes direction 180 turn then goes up stream against the current or change or alter the flow, that's when Humans object the most.....in my opinion.

You Stated you wish to be a Parent one day GOOD I'm sure you'll be a Excellent Loving, Caring and Responsible Parent, just remember In this day / age and way of thinking many will label you "out of your Mind".....In this World !

Humans Today look and treat Children as a Pain, Problem, Time Consuming and way too expensive.

Is it any wonder why in this World of "Knowing Better Adults" were more messed up then generations ago ?

I wish you the best, take care.

Professor,

"We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give." --Winston

Churchill

MRios, I would never label you out of your mind. Whenever you see adults not wanting children is because they cannot handle and are not willing to handle growing up and lets face it facing facts.


The fact that we age, the fact that once you have a child, you can't think of me you have to think of "the child".
The great part about being a parent as I see thru the eyes of my sister and bother is the joy and happiness a child brings to your life, the fact that you will learn things again. How the genes play such a factor in this new person that comes to your life. Trust me I am baffled at how my niece and nephew have so many of my habits without either one of us knowing. Its a wonderful experience.

But again, just because it is my experience, I know that others aren't as blessed. Other people's situations are not mine.

MRios, its sad how morals and standards have gone down the hill. I know, people tell I must come from the 1800's.
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MRIOS, women go and go thru so much with an unwanted pregnancy. I have seen documentaries that make my skin crawl. Please read my first posting. Its scary.

Its a co-out. I know, but rather this than the crimes doctors commit without having legal punishment for not only malpractice but the death of 2 human beings.

Wishing you the very Best
NYCDR

NYCDR,
You see we do agree on a lot of Human issues. I can tell you speak from the Heart, don't let NOBODY change that ever. Sorry if you misunderstood me. When I speak on this type of issue I also speak from the Heart, as a Father of 4 I can honestly say because of it it made me a better Human, and after my Wife's all 4 C-sections which I was present was a Beautiful experience, since then I look at LIFE a whole lot different.
I'll repeat the DR needs Real MEN not studs. Children are a product of LOVE not some shake the gollies 15 min. past time. Men need to respect Woman period.
I'LL REPEAT....
After All MEN have Mother's, Grandmothers, Wife's, Daughters, Sister's, Aunts and Girlfriends.
Imagine how would they feel if Mr. Stud came by to make a play, Woman are not Sex Toys.
Think of all the STD's, one would think HIV/AIDS is an eye opener like THINK , In my opinion the Condom Company's are banking on the idea their produce is that needed to avoid catching.
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the above deceases just mentioned, I differ on that. Most STD's and HIV/AIDS are passed threw Body Fluids such as Saliva, Blood, Tears, Sweat, Urine and other Sexual Fluids.

Just ask a Male Stud if He knew His next Partner had a STD or was HIV/AIDS active will He still Fornicate, I would think not and hope not.

The idea of passing it on to His Love one or Wife.

We have a long way to go, Man living by His own rules and side stepping God that's the real Problem.

I'm glad I'm Happily Married and have been for over 21 + years and counting.

Almost forgot Tomorrow is 911 I never knew a Victim or the Family of one, but still I Pray GOD brings Healing to the Families of the Victims....I'm Prior Service and have a Son soon to be a U.S Marine Inf.

You can bet My Flag will be posted at 0500 hours until Sunday in Honor of 911.

Take care.

PS. I'm proud I'm a 1800's type Man in 21st Century World, I call it the "Voice of Conscience".

MRIOS, thanks so much for your words.

Pro-choice means we give them the option to find a professional licensed to do the procedure.

You are correct, STDs can be contracted easily. Unfortunately, some people take more time deciding what to buy than who they sleep with. : (

Moral values are taught in the home. Our parents are the ones who teach us thru behavior.
God's word teaches us what happens when we break the rules and how he is there to console and guide us.

Again, we are the blessed ones. Others may not have the opportunity to experience the blessings from God.

Again, thanks for your words.

I am going in to work tomorrow which is nearby. I lost a friend from Church, and a friend from childhood. God will help me make the best of it.

Thanks so much for your prayers.

May God continue to Bless You and Your Family Each and Every Day.

Best to the Best

NYCDR

NYCDR,
PROchoice to me means......... "SELF CONSCIENCE OF THE MIND AND SPIRIT" one can't separate them, then claim to be Human.
We ALL must find that inner Spirit that makes us all Human, that is our only Hope in a World gone totally MAD.
Wishing You the very best, God Bless and take care.

MRIOS, as before, we will agree to disagree. Its been fun. Thanks and You too!!!