There are some ONG criticizing the D.R. in europe, saying that we don't want to open our border to prevent aid to get to the haitian people; go figure that one out, I CAN'T.
http://www.listindiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=128277

I saw this one coming, The ONG's and the Jesuits are expecting the DR to lower our guard, and let the country be invaded by desperate Haitians including 5,000 of the most violent murderers that where let loose, by the cowardice of the prison guards that abandoned their posts.
As a sovereign and independent country the DR is not supposed to screen any foreigner coming in, and just let anyone in. I bet they also "forgot" to mention the fact that the injured are let in without any controls, which that by itself is a very generous policy.
If Mexico has an earthquake will the US remove all border restrictions on Mexicans fleeing the country?
If there is an earthquake in Morocco, will Spain lift all the restrictions as well as France, and let all refugees in?

f**!!
this people piss me off, thanks we have guns in our home in case the violence erupts!.

Ignore the haters in the press, AND THE HATEFUL POSTERS, but keep our borders secure.

Ask the same stupid, dumbass, retarded, annoying, mother .......S in europe whta They
think about this:

http://www.remolacha.net/2010/01/....o-paulo-escandaliza-a-brasil.html

We have to be compasionate for the Haitians but not mentally weak not to control our borders
and protect our population.

This world is so complicated!

Target and write to these NGOs and the Press, I have. Challenge their assessments and opinions.

But be polite and well spoken,because if you lose your cool, they will jump at you and use what you

say against the DR. Be clear and to the point. Show that you care about the plight of the Haitians

and that you have helped in some way in ameliorating their needs, even if your contributions have

been donations for other organizations, to help out as have been mine. Remember, show

compassion and be graceful in your writing because the worst thing you can do is show

callousness in the current situation. as one of our fellow posters, CarlosFranco, did recently.

Comments like his do enormous damage for the image of the DR and are used to unjustly criticize

and demean our rightful compassion for the people of Haiti.

Santo Domingo.- El embajador César Medina denunció que tradicionales enemigos del gobierno, del pueblo dominicano y, en especial, algunas ONG de dudosa composición y origen han iniciado una campaña de descrédito contra la República Dominicana, a través de medios de comunicación de Madrid, París, Londres, Berlín y otras capitales europeas.

El diplomático dijo que está alertando a los principales medios de comunicación de Europa y en especial de España para que no se dejen sorprender de esas estidades fantasmas que ahora quieren aprovechar la crisis provocada por el terremoto del pasado martes en Haití, para atribuir responsabilidades de los problemas a los dominicanos.

Particularmente se refirió a una información aparecida ayer en el diario ABC de Madrid, atribuyéndole denunciar a una ONG que el gobierno de República Dominicana había cerrado la frontera para evitar el cruce de ayuda y provocar que haitianos se desesperaran a cruzar la frontera en estampida.

Shameful ABC.

Medina dirigió ayer una carta al director de ese diario, Ángel Expósito Mora, aclarando la situación.

Resumen de la carta:
Hemos leído sorprendidos una publicación de esta fecha aparecida en el diario que Usted dirige relativa al supuesto cierre de la frontera dominico-haitiana a propósito del devastador terremoto que en la tarde del martes 12 recién pasado afectó nuestra isla provocando desolación y muerte en Puerto Príncipe, capital de la República de Haití.

Sepa Usted, Señor Director, que el mundo aún no había reaccionado ante los devastadores efectos del sismo, cuando ya el Presidente de la República Dominicana convocaba a su Consejo de Ministros y a todas las instituciones de socorro de nuestro país para acudir en ayuda del hermano pueblo haitiano. En las primeras horas del miércoles 13 ya estaban llegando a Puerto Príncipe los primeros convoyes cargados de alimentos, medicinas, personal especializado en labores de rescate de sobrevivientes, miembros de los Cuerpos de Bomb

En las primeras horas del miércoles 13 ya estaban llegando a Puerto Príncipe los primeros convoyes cargados de alimentos, medicinas, personal especializado en labores de rescate de sobrevivientes, miembros de los Cuerpos de Bomberos, de la Defensa Civil y personal médico y paramédico de las Fuerzas Armadas y la Policía Nacional.

A las 6:OO de la mañana del miércoles 13, apenas comenzando a clarear el día y cuando los propios ciudadanos haitianos empezaban a apreciar la magnitud de aquel desastre, ya estaban llegando a Puerto Príncipe helicópteros de la Fuerza Aérea Dominicana, y el Estado Mayor completo de las Fuerzas Armadas asumía personalmente las labores de rescate y traslado de heridos a los hospitales dominicanos por las vías aérea y terrestre...


Well said by César Medina.

Atabey
At a boy, agree with you 100%. Don't give them ammunition they can use against us, that is exactly what they want.
With increasing overpopulation, (the greatest problem), and the dwindling food and water resources, the world is a desperate jungle right now, and everybody must struggle and fight for their own sweet turf, remember that.
We must never lay silent and just take it, we must fight back, but in a compassionate way, and always "speak softly but carry a big stick", just in case, as Theodore Roosevelt once said.

Generoso,

Where is Josean? He should be manning his position in these difficult times. I understand that

Leonel is having a field day as the Great Provider of Access to the Haitian cause; but there are so

many other areas Josean could contribute. Wake him up.

josean
Sometimes goes into the reclusive periods of self reflection and introspection, more so after he had a "close call" recently.
I hope he does return, as he is missed and his contribution is valuable.

I agree, let's have him have his space and hope he comes back and makes his contributions to the debate.

On another topic, what do you think about my suggestions that if Leonel plays his cards right the DR stands to make great headway in its modernization program. As the most logical point of territorial access, the DR is positioned to meet the enormous needs that our sister republic requires at this time, and for the foreseeable future. I think that the International Community and the leading nations will make significant contributions to the infrastructure of the DR in order to facilitate their assistance into Haiti, and that this will directly help DR's modernization drive. No one should wish others harm, but certainly if help needs to be provided and you can help the cause of your own lifting-up in the process, I say it's a win-win situation for all involved. Que piensas de eso?

I hope jose-ano is okay; I haven't heard from his mouth lately.
Could it be Sonia Pie BEHIND this allegations?

http://www.abc.es/20100116/intern....ar-toda-costa-ayuda-20100116.html

«Hay que evitar a toda costa que la ayuda precipite otra tragedia humana»
Escritor e intelectual de referencia del drama haitiano, Jean Métellus alerta sobre la corrupción rampante en su país. Pide a la comunidad internacional que tome medidas de garantía, cuando la ayuda financiera empieza a llegar a la isla: «En caso contrario, políticos y policías se entregarán al pillaje»

JUAN PEDRO QUIÑONERO | PARÍS
Jean Métellus, patriarca de la cultura haitiana, en el destierro, teme que gobernantes, ministros, prefectos, militares y policías roben masivamente buena parte de la ayuda internacional a Haití, precipitando una tragedia humana todavía más pavorosa.
Métellus (Jacmel, 1939) es el escritor haitiano más importante de nuestro tiempo, autor de una docena de novelas, una veintena de libros de poesía, seis dramas y varios ensayos, comenzando por su legendario, «Haití, una nación patética» (2

Of course the countrys elite will get first priority while the little girl loosing her leg in the rubble as well as the sick and needy Dominicans will have to wait a month or travel to the local clinic 3 hours away .

We must help Haiti with everything we can but they must NOT confuse immigration issues with Humanitarian help they are 2 different subject and must be dealt with at it's own space and time. Right now we have to help Haiti get up and running but less not forget that they need medical help not immigration talk. I saw another report where a priest was trying to inject the talk of immigration issue while talking about Donation coming from DR to Haiti luckily Huchi Lora in the interview caught it instantly and switch the subject by saying we can talk about that issue later. Anyways where in the world is Mr. Preval and a little speech for his people, I'm sure would serve as words of hope. Remember that not everybody is strong and words of hope could cause people to calm down a bit and especially when coming from the president.

Preval suffer from Posttraumatic stress disorder CNN say it 2 days ago.

We do need to help Haiti according to our means, and we as a poor country have done greatly.

It is so infuriating so see the games this NGOs play. Who the hell these NGOs think they are?

It's going to take a while for us to recuperate what we have invested by helping Haiti at the present time. Now we financially can not absorbe more illegals.

We MUST get these NGOs names and their members names MAKE A BLACK LIST like USA is doing with terrorist, and not allow these NGOs members to come to DR at any costs.

THESE NGOS MEMEBERS MUST NOT BE ALOWED TO COME TO OUR DR AT ANY COST!

I told you that josean was a Haitian Fernandez hater disguised as Dominican
he was killed

For your info Josean was banned for some reason, I wish the editor of the DT would comment on why. We want all points of view wether extreeme riight or left. Thats what makes for a free blog.

El embajador César Medina, thats like having Rush Limbaugh as a US Embassador !!!!!

For your info Josean was banned for some reason, I wish the editor of the DT would comment on why. We want all points of view wether extreeme riight or left. Thats what makes for a free blog.

0000

Thats not fair DT !!!!!!!!

Maybe Josean was commenting on the fact that 2 non-functional presidents make frontpage news, just to be the "first" to help a poor neighbour, while humaritan help had to circle around for hours over the P-au-P airport, leonnie managed to get a front row position and was able to land, just for a F$^$#%$%ng picture shaking hands, while others could really do some good, but had no chance.
I know a lot of people like the nice pictures and not the cruel reality, it is just business.

Now the DR as poor neighbour is helping while they have no funding for this (except for another shitty metro) , so this is a very good opportunity to get some much appriciated $$$ into the DR politicians hands

What i personal cant find in the Haitian coverage is, what happend to those local gangs who were controlling P-au-P before the quacke
Don't tell me that they just disappeared ....

The DR doesn't have to provide answers to anyone. There are a lot of things Leonel does wrong (imo), but he did good with his response to this crisis. He provided aid to Haiti, allowed many of its people access to Dominican hospitals (at the expense of his own citizens), and also providing a "base of operations" for many other countries to push their aid to Puerto Principe. Now because the DR has the audacity to protect its borders a few NGOs want to get mad....let them kick rocks. I actually would have gone further and temporarily placed Dominican military units on the Haitian side of the border to control the refugee rush. It's a tragedy....yes. But the DR has no obligation to care for another country's citizens. The NGOs need to take a good hard look at themselves before they start accusing others of ill treatment. If they really want to start pointing fingers, ask the Haitian government why it hasn't attempted to care for its people......

........Puerto Principe, the capital of Haiti, had no first responders at all prior to this earthquake. Not one....not even a fire department. This is simply criminal..... Why aren't the NGOs asking these questions? How many lives could have been saved with adequate first responders, earth moving equipment, properly staffed hospitals with trained personnel, and emergency stockpiles of food and water? I saw an editorial the other day that says the U.S. has provided over 3 billion dollars to Haiti since the mid '90s. 3 billion! Right now that money can't be accounted for. And that money is just what the U.S. has provided. The rest of the world has provided billions more. For a country the size of Maryland, 3 billion dollars can go far. However, what's being said now is that money is unaccounted for. Ridiculo!

Negrodelabachata:

Excellent points of views and unbiased comments !

NegroDeLaBachata

I agree 100%.

Negro,
Leonel may have done good in scoring points for himself in the eyes of the majority of the world that are just realizing Hispanola is not just a fictionary place after all , but in the eyes of 5 million Dominican people that cant find a job or a pineapple to feed a family of five under his presidency, Fernendez is a traitor trying to make a super hero out of his basterdized image and reputation . As Ive already alluded to, the man cant pay his own electric bills and has done squat for the Dominican people and thier poverty and now he wants to be the second coming of Christ to the Haitians while the CNN cameras tell him to smile and say cheese Obama . I am all for the Humaitarian aid that the the D.R is trying to give , but are the Dominicans ready to deal with the unprecedented and chaotic mass exodus that will take place in the months to come ? I suppose Leonel was the first to bring Hugo a case of water to Venezuala after that 5.6 hit ?

Josean was temporarily banned, but the ban was removed after reconsideration of the mods.
He shall return, like a good trooper, to the delight and the amusement of the reading public, with his never ending metro rants.LOL
Again Josean ban has been lifted, I am glad to inform.

"but in the eyes of 5 million Dominican people that cant find a job or a pineapple to feed a family of five under his presidency, Fernendez is a traitor trying to make a super hero out of his basterdized image and reputation."

This statement shows why we Dominicans will have a very difficult time in finding our place among developed nations. The "pie-is-falling from the sky" and the antagonistic nature of so many of our country folk make governing and establishing modernity almost impossible. Everything has to be now, not later; everything is as I say it, or you be damned. Guy, this moment our nation and our president are leading a valiant effort to assist a devastated sister republic and all you seem to want to engage in is political theater. Give it a break. And remember you can vote for someone else, next time.

If Fernandez plays his cards right with this crisis, the DR stands to make an incredible amount of progress in meeting the needs of Dominicans of all classes.

Having always enjoyed reading Joseans comments could anyone tell me what comment he posted that got him temporarily banned ?
Wouldn't like to think there were Thought Police masquerading as DT moderators.

dominicanheartbeat, Atabey is 100% correct, i think our country can't prosper with such a pessimistic people like yourself!. Be honest and tell me how many times you had changed your mind back and forward on what LF should do. Leave him alone his a great president!. At least better than the corrupt ignorant PRDiestas of the past!.

Exactly Atabey,
'' if he plays his cards right '' he can use this crisis to to his own advantage as he always does . Your comment suggests that you also are more concerned about the future prosperity of the D.R than the Haitians stuck under the rubble . Theres a guy named Bill Clinton that thinks the same way . One mans tragedy is Americas opportunity . Im sure that Leo and Obama are in some way genuinely saddened by this event , but dont sell me this B.S about not trying to further political agendas amigo . Leo has to do nothing except allow his foriegn sugar daddys to keep pulling his strings . In the long run, Do you really think that the possibility of 2 million more Haitians coming across the line is going to do anything to further the best intrests of the poor Dominicans and Haitians that will always remain poor ? Please explain if you can ? In case you havent noticed, thier not building any more land these days .

Ateo,
if the blind lead the blind they will all fall in the ditch ! Start the presses please , We need 100,000,00 '' Go leonel'' tees by sun up lol. oooooooh how quickly the tide has turned ! You hypocrites lol. Our readers have annointed thier new Che lol.

dominicanheartbeat,

No, you see that's where you miss it. I don't wish harm on another nation or person, but if an opportunity arises where helping another helps me or in this case a nation, why not? It's called reality. If the Dominican Republic doesn't help Haiti develop, do you think that Costa Rica, Brazil, Mexico, or any other nation is not going to offer their services and products in the rebuilding efforts? Guy get real. South Korea partially industrialized by way of the Vietnam War.

Well anyways I'm happy my whole famly's okay thank god! But are you guys arguing or somethin just because they ask you to hold a couple of sick people in your hospitals now is that really a problem? I'm just askin btw so yall dont get all mad at me just curiouse

Wow...lots of controversy! I will be coming to the DR in a week for vacation (Punta Cana) and was there a year ago in Sosua. I chose to come again with 12 friends because I loved the people and country so much. I have true mixed emotions about going to live in luxury for a week while people not so far away are suffering so much...it is truly heart-wrenching and even while I say that I feel silly...as if the pain I feel can compare to those in Haiti! The comments I see here are not so different than those of any other country when faced with tragedy and while help is needed next door, it will get there and you (and everyone else in the world) should do what you can do to help. That said, the DR has its own problems and must also protect itself as well. Haiti will need to be rebuilt and the DR has the human resources. Governments are governments, not much difference around the world be we must help our neighbours, always

Wow...lots of controversy! I will be coming to the DR in a week for vacation (Punta Cana) and was there a year ago in Sosua. I chose to come again with 12 friends because I loved the people and country so much. I have true mixed emotions about going to live in luxury for a week while people not so far away are suffering so much...it is truly heart-wrenching and even while I say that I feel silly...as if the pain I feel can compare to those in Haiti! The comments I see here are not so different than those of any other country when faced with tragedy and while help is needed next door, it will get there and you (and everyone else in the world) should do what you can do to help. That said, the DR has its own problems and must also protect itself as well. Haiti will need to be rebuilt and the DR has the human resources. Governments are governments, not much difference around the world be we must help our neighbours, always God Bless!

LoveDR,

Most welcomed and I share your thoughts as well. But life goes on and all we can do is try and help the best we can. Hope you and friends have a pleasant time. The DR will continue to offer what it can to her neighbor Haiti in these most pressing of times. There's a big donors Conference scheduled for Monday in Santo Domingo. Hopefully the Big Nations get their act together for the sake of Haiti and her people.

Guys you're not going to believe this. BBC

Senegal offers land to Haitians


Abdoulaye Wade said Haitians could "return to their origin"

Senegal's president says he will offer free land and "repatriation" to people affected by the earthquake in Haiti.

President Abdoulaye Wade said Haitians were sons and daughters of Africa since Haiti was founded by slaves, including some thought to be from Senegal.

"The president is offering voluntary repatriation to any Haitian that wants to return to their origin," said Mr Wade's spokesman, Mamadou Bemba Ndiaye.


"Senegal is ready to offer them parcels of land - even an entire region. It all depends on how many Haitians come," Mr Bemba Ndiaye said.

"If it's just a few individuals, then we will likely offer them housing or small pieces of land. If they come en masse we are ready to give them a region."

The spokesman emphasised that if a region was given, it would be in a fertile part of the country rather than in its parche

Negro de la bachata as your name implies !!!!!

US$3,000,000,000 AID / 5,000,000 Population = US 600.00 Per Capita / 5 yrs (Min) = US$120.00 Per Capita/Yr / 365 days = 0.328767123288 Per Day and you have to subtract, bribes, salaries, UN wages, food, etc etc etc,

My daily smoke habits US$10.00

Screw Preval!

He might as well stay where he is at right now. He is not needed in Haiti as far as the Haitian population are concerned.

Anyways on to better suggestion. Makeshift eatery line points need to be set up rather/instead of dropping food to the Haitian people like dogs for media sensational stigmatized news.

Sure Atabey,
and by this time next week , you and all your friends will have taken LEOS face off of your tee shirts and put him back on his cross while you bitch about how little he does to keep them damn Haitians from hopping the fence . I am not pessimistic but I am realistic my friend ..

As usual Power and money always rule, while these government officials are flown out for state of the art medical treatment in Santiago the poor and the helpless remain behind to deal with the crisis.... yes money buys power and power buys everything else in life

"Written by: dominicanheartbeat, 17 Jan 2010 12:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Sure Atabey,
and by this time next week , you and all your friends will have taken LEOS face off of your tee shirts and put him back on his cross while you bitch about how little he does to keep them damn Haitians from hopping the fence . I am not pessimistic but I am realistic my friend .."


You're one twisted leftist recalcitrant who hasn't gotten the message yet that socialism is not the answer to the wide-spread poverty in nations such as the DR and Haiti. Read up on what Carlito Marx said about Capitalism.

It appears that Preval have resigned

http://www.haitian-truth.org/flas....-step-down-as-president-of-haiti/

Your right about the left side brother Atabey. Food and water donations may supply these poor and displaced people for a few days , but only the love and grace of God can change hearts, lives and corrupt political systems that fail on every level . Is not the heart of our problems as human beings the problem of our wicked hearts ?

So noone is mad? I'm confused I get what the article says I'm not that dumb but why was that guy mad?

misshaiti

you're right and wrong!

right, you're always confused and wrong, you're really that dumb.

Guy please I know I am very smart. And I will be a pediatirision and alot of other things. I got a 92% in math akay that is very good for a 7th grader. I'm not confused at this saying that there is haitian government officials in dominican hospitals. Duhh! Anyways it's not like I'm suppost to understand every political thingamiggigy that this site says. Anyways god bless you have a nice day! :)

belly is completey right humanitarian and immigration issues should not be confused. I think the NGO's are over zealous and seeing so much suffering in Haiti they can only think of the present not the future ramifications of a relaxed border. While their presence is welcome and they do an overwhelming amount of good they cannot be involved in immigration issues. It is completely true that if Mexico suffered a major catastrophe that the U.S is not going to open their borders and i very much doubt if the NGO would make any comments about it.