MADRID.- Impoverished Dominican Republic was the first nation to arrive, and is among the leading countries in providing aid to its stricken neighbor Haiti, shipping supplies and trained personnel to Port-au-Prince.
In the wake of the tragedy several foreign media are tallying the cost of the humanitarian aid and of sending teams of first responders, but have mostly ignored the help which president Leonel Fernandez channeled during the first hours of the catastrophe.
The oversight wasn’t ignored by Dominican ambassador in Spain Cesar Medina, whose letter to the leading Spanish newspaper El Pais protests its oversight of not including the Caribbean nation among its list of countries which have come to the aid of its neighbor on Hispaniola Island.
Medina complained of what he calls an “unjust and discriminatory treatment” against the Dominican Republic by a sector of the European press, when assigning responsibilities to the international community in material support and the rescue effort in Haiti’s devastated capital.
In a letter to newspaper El Pais editor in chief Javier Moreno, the Dominican journalist and diplomat says in material contribution to Port-au-Prince Dominican Republic is second only to the United States. “The Dominican government hasn’t scrimped in effort to take all the possible material and human aid to Haiti and the Dominican people have taken the bread from their mouths – literally- to take it to their Haitian brothers in this time of calamity and distress.”
Written by: telemeco, 19 Jan 2010 11:13 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
Well say CoÑoooo
Written by: bernies, 19 Jan 2010 11:18 AM
From: United States, key west fl
How about the Italian news writer who wrote some bad mouth s't about the people here in this side of the island playing golf while the other side of the island is in ruin. IF we were to compare the amount of aid's and effort that our country has given to Haiti in the past week it will surpass some develop countries. IF you take in count the income per capit.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
as it should Bernie ...The DR has the most to lose after Haiti .....This is not only compassionate but it is important for the security and prosperity and future image of the Dominican Republic ....We are heavily invested in this tragedy in many ways
From: United States, NJ (M_ S Cibaeno 100%)
Tell us something we don't know.
From: United States
The whole world knows Italy is the most corrupted nation in the world, not to mention it is among the world's greatest debtors...
The Dominican Republic , despite its short-comings, has enjoyed economic development largely in part due to its natural resources (magnificent scenic beauty) that attracts tourism. Yes, golf is played there and a whole host of other sports. But one thing the DR is not capable of doing is nation-building. It simply does not have the resource to do so. However it's most certainly capable of lending a helping hand as we have seen recently.
In the case of Haiti, an economic development plan was put in place by the UN (effort spearheaded by Bill Clinton) well before the quake. The former president has vowed continue this plan once the nation has been rebuilt. It will be a long road to recovery indeed, and with the DR as its neighbor this process will be much easier for Haiti. Case in point, the DR has acted as a HUB for emergency response crews.
From: United States
BASTA,
There is always a group of persons in government who steal from public coffers. Therefore every nation in the world is capable of stealing in one way or another.
From: United States, NJ (M_ S Cibaeno 100%)
Rodri,
this person is being sarcastic, welcome to this forum!
Written by: Atabey, 19 Jan 2010 12:02 PM
From: United States, NYC
It's interesting how this has developed, and one wonders how much the international campaign against the DR for it's treatments in the Bateys has given ammo to this discrediting nature. I truly was taken aback by the sheer lack of coverage given DR's opening drive to assist her neighbor. I've written letters to PBS, the NYT, and other magazines expressing my outrage that this small nation's contributions have largely been kept under the radar of the international Relief Effort campaign. Again, we should all make it a regular part of our lives to write and express our views in a well mannered and mature nature, because otherwise the vacuum of public opinion will quickly fill-up with not so friendly views of the DR. Ambassador Cesar Medina, well done Sir.
Written by: Atabey, 19 Jan 2010 12:04 PM
From: United States, NYC
hey Josean,
How about some props for DR's efforts?
Written by: Gringo_1, 19 Jan 2010 12:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Maimon (Bonao)
I was at Las Sirenas on Luperon last Saturday and there was a line of people donating canned goods and water to special container marked for Haiti. I can tell you it wasn't just people driving Beamers. It was everyone. Somehow, this missed the news too. Sad/
Written by: Atabey, 19 Jan 2010 12:12 PM
From: United States, NYC
Not even a little: yes, my country has done good helping out Haiti?
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
Who the hellz cares about other countries say about DR, as far as i'm concerned france, italy and spain can lineup and take turns kissing my excessively hairy azz.
As long as the haitian people recognize our good gesture and assistance during this sad chapter of their history, that dominicans of all walks of life put their hands together to help Haiti, everybody from Junta de vecinos to all the wayup to the executive branch went above and beyond efforts to provide a helping hand, some even pay the ultimate price for their good deed, as i found out that one of the dominican men that got shot at in puerto pricipe while giving food to survivers die of his wounds.
I don't want to see some haitian senator asking for a minute of silence for the Haitian nationals murdered in DR at the hands of xenophobic dominicans or Sonia Pierre showing her fat face on TV crying and telling the world how racist we are.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
only fools could not take this position Josean ......if we get a black eye because of our behavior it will take a long long time to go away ....Besides by helping our fellow man we are helping ourselves Amen
Written by: Atabey, 19 Jan 2010 12:22 PM
From: United States, NYC
Not even a small gesture of support?
From: Germany, Stuttgart
To hell with what the Black Shirts say. Italy is a minority voice in major global conversations anyway.
As far a coverage goes, I think the coverage of the RD by CNN Espanol has been fair. I've only seen the RD and Mexico featured, however. I saw from the late night news that the Peruanos have at least one search and rescue team on the ground in Puerto Principe. I don't know about the rest of the Americas. I haven't been reading online RD publications, but I'm sure they're covering RD's contributions.
The RD has a right to expect due recognition, but I don't it's time for ambassadors to start "chest pounding" as josean put it. There will be time for that....maybe. But for the citizens of Quisqueya to ask those questions of media outlets....why not? I think that's appropriate. The Dominican gov't opened up its hospitals to wounded Haitianos at the expense of its own citizens, and provided medical care to Haitian gov't officials. I think its only fair to highlight all of this.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
la verdad que esta lacra no tiene madre.
was up lacra, you got tired of posting under your alter ego- dominicanheartbeat.
not even when your people are going through such a difficult time are you able to show compassion and put down you moronic ranting about politics and conspiracy theories.
Only un gusano like you will come up with that kind of garbage that you just posted.
I guess that those two dominican men that got shot were in haiti making a quick buck and profiting from haitian suffering. I hope you only represent a minority of haitians with that kind of gratitude.
Yo se hace tiempo sabia que tu eres una lacra, lo que no sabia era la clase de lacra que eras.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
I thein that the rapidity with which the DR responded to the holocost of aftermath in Haiti is indicitive of the changes that have taken place in philosophy by the DR Government.
In the past, responses of an emergency nature have been much slower and less pronounced. That is to say, the responses have been half-hearted, althjough done even in the light of overwhelming need for social responses within the DR itself (ie., Flood relief, Medical attention, civil unrest, other significant relief activities, etc.).
The response by letter to the Editors of the Spanish Media is well placed, both in time and circumstance. There has been virtually NO mention of the efforts by the DR Government to mitigate the need for immediate aid and comfort to Haiti.
I personally think such a lack of coverage is criminal, prima facia. There can be NO EXCUSE for such a disregaqrd for the efforts of the DR in the scenario presented.
TexasBil
Written by: jonbonz, 19 Jan 2010 1:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
The ther night in the Capital I saw a Costa Rica urbal rescue untin awaiting tranasport into Haiti the next day. So yes many many nations in Latin America are helping.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
I listen exclusively to English US media [also BBC, when it is available], and I've seen a lot of positive comments on Dominican nation’s involvement in aiding and facilitating rescue in Haiti.
I believe that giving is a most noble act, and one that should be executed without the least expectation for acknowledgement. Being first or last matters little to me. Being there and making a difference and bringing a smile to a wounded child is way, way more important to me. I neither expect nor want acknowledgement for my financial contribution to Haiti. I did it out of kinship with my fellow man and compassion, and expression of gratitude is absolutely unnecessary.
MJEV.
From: Dominican Republic
duuuuuuuuuhhhhh !
From: Germany, Stuttgart
Oh Heartbeat Heartbeat. Where would this story be without a perfectly timed negative comment from you. Congrats! Pat yourself on the back.
From: Dominican Republic, Cabarete
I can see why this site would want tobe quick and post this article...Wow, still trying to keep score so that later they could say "Oh, we contributed." Yeah we get the idea DT (lol). Golly, even in Haiti's predicament I see signs of exploit and reproachable tab keeping. Where is the decency, really?
Written by: josean, 19 Jan 2010 4:24 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
It got too light to read!
Written by: josean, 19 Jan 2010 12:02 PM
From: United States
But one thing the DR is not capable of doing is nation-building.
Your right rodrigito! Including our OWN!
Written by: josean, 19 Jan 2010 4:26 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Remember censors are only second to pedophiles!
Written by: josean, 19 Jan 2010 12:13 PM
From: United States
Banistan,
I have to take my Sombreo off to you!
LIE-onel Fernandez's altruism is not so altruistic!
It’s about resorting DR second largest business partner as soon as possible before we feel the effect of the lack of consumption of our exports to Haiti to the tune of about three quarters of a Billion US dollars!
We are helping ourselves as much as we are helping them!
So, lets stop all this chest pounding Mr. Medina, like you are the second coming of Gandhi!
Soon many Dominican businesses will begin to speak Creole like LIE-onel, it’s in their economic interest and to some their very survival!
Written by: josean, 19 Jan 2010 5:21 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
And now the real opportunistic truth of LIE-onel Fernandez’s "Good Intentions" emerges:
Drop DR debt
Last July the Paris Club countries agreed to cancel Haiti's foreign debt burden. This debt was unlikely to be repaid. This decision was reconfirmed during the Santo Domingo summit for Haiti, but President Leonel Fernandez took it a step further by proposing that dropping the Dominican debt could help develop Haiti.
Former Central Bank governor Guillermo Caram concurs. In an op-ed piece in Hoy newspaper, he writes that the United States, Spain, Venezuela, Japan and Brazil should cancel the Dominican Republic's bilateral foreign debt. Instead of paying the debt, the fund would be available for Dominican companies to work on the reconstruction of Haiti based on a master plan. Caram proposes the consolidation of all business energies into converting the DR into a platform for the reconstruction of Haiti for the Haitians.
Continued:
Written by: josean, 19 Jan 2010 5:23 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"We have the human and business infrastructure, the professionals and companies, especially the builders, including the materials," he said. He explained the construction sector could handle the extra activity, because it has suffered a 14% slump. Caram says that the solution is not for the DR to open its doors to all the Haitians in need. What is being suffered today is magnified by the previous calamities that are the consequence of environmental mismanagement that has devastated the 28,000 km2 of Haitian territory, he writes. He concludes that an increase in migration means the entire 76,000km2 of the island would run the risk of becoming a desert.
Source DR1
From: Dominican Republic
Neg, Its time for the conak amigo !
From: United States
i sense trouble, the americans and the french will fight over haiti, the dominican republic and haiti should unite and call the island "the island of hispaniola" once again. language should not be a barrier. the bigger fish should lead. nothing personal! this is a blessing in disguise for all of us from that beautiful island. we have suffered too much to let slave holding countries and the french who have done nothing for haiti take over. may god reward all our suffering and may he also protect cuba.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
the dominican republic is doing what it can to help, but it will take alot more then food clothes and shelter to help the haitians , the only people that could truly help the haitians are the haitians themselves
From: United States
i sense trouble, the americans and the french will fight over haiti, the dominican republic and haiti should unite and call the island "the island of hispaniola" once again. language should not be a barrier. the bigger fish should lead. nothing personal! this is a blessing in disguise for all of us from that beautiful island. we have suffered too much to let slave holding countries and the french who have done nothing for haiti take over. may god reward all our suffering and may he also protect cuba.
From: United States
the only owner that the island of hispaniola has, has been dead and buried in this beautiful island of hispaniola. cristobal colon. not the americans or the french.
From: United States
the only owner that the island of hispaniola has, has been dead and buried in this beautiful island of hispaniola. cristobal colon. not the americans or the french.
Written by: FelixRD, 19 Jan 2010 10:20 PM
From: United States
ANTES DE QUE EL POLVO SE ASENTARA
Un capcioso parte del periódico español ABC que ignominiosamente acusa a nuestro país de cerrar la frontera a los hermanos damnificados haitianos, ha desembalsado mi copa y he decidido verter mi indignación a través de la telaraña mundial (WWW).
Aunque el momento no es el más idóneo, creo que algún hijo de Quisqueya tiene el deber de responder a los Christopher Hartley, Solange Pie y Pedro Ruquoy del mundo.
¿Cómo es posible que este instante apocalíptico se aproveche para descrédito de nuestro país por algunas personas que viven del pago de interesadas ONGS?
En el momento que esto escribo, Sábado 16 de enero de 2010, 2:00 PM (hora de República Dominicana) no conozco una persona, un barrio (rico o pobre), un hospital o clínica privada, canal de televisión o programa radial de nuestro país que no esté volcado en la recolección de ayuda para Haití; se organizan puestos de acopio de medicinas, vacunas (se acabaron las de tétanos que teníamos
Written by: FelixRD, 19 Jan 2010 10:21 PM
From: United States
Cont>
Precisamente hoy transmitían la alegre noticia de que una niña de un año y medio fue sacada de los escombros por un flaco joven de un barrio de Quisqueya que arrastró su vida por un pequeño hueco y media hora más tarde emergía con la criatura viva.
Ya para la madrugada siguiente al terremoto se habían trasladado diez cocinas móviles en las que se sirven 100 mil raciones diarias. También vimos como soldados cascos azules repartían unos "moros con pollo" que salían de unos camiones amarillos con letreros que ponían: "Gobierno Dominicano Comedores Económicos". Y es que hasta nuestro gobierno, tradicionalmente desorganizado e indolente, ha mostrado una efectividad y solidaridad desconocidas incluso para nosotros mismos. CONT>
Written by: FelixRD, 19 Jan 2010 10:21 PM
From: United States
Cont>
Esta febricitante actividad ha sido puesta en marcha desde el mismo instante en que a nosotros también se nos movió la tierra y aún no se había levantado la alerta de tsunami para nuestras costas.
Antes de que el polvo se asentara el fatídico martes 12 de enero, eran Dominicanos los que estaban llevando ayuda y tratando de salvar vidas entre los escombros de Puerto Príncipe; fueron cámaras dominicanas las que generaron las primeras imágenes del " fin del mundo Haitiano", eran los morenitos dominicanos junto a los sobrevivientes haitianos que con picos, palas, patas de cabra, manos, uñas y dientes, rescataban a quien podían y observaban cómo las televisoras extranjeras desplegaban toda su tecnología millonaria para transmitir "LIVE" las infernales imágenes. Pero ni agua ni comida que supiera a superpotencia.
Written by: FelixRD, 19 Jan 2010 10:22 PM
From: United States
Cont>
De repente Haití existe para la comunidad internacional, tenían que morirse por cientos de miles para que les hicieran caso; pero nosotros lo sabemos desde hace muchas décadas, porque sufrimos su desgracia que no es de este presente de "flat panel" en la sala de nuestra casa, porque hemos absorbido el 10% de su población con las manos extendidas en nuestras esquinas, campos y camas de hospitales, porque cavan zanjas en nuestras avenidas y se caen de andamios de nuestros rascacielos en construcción, porque estamos aquí y nos duele.
Pero esto no es de noticiarios y días de emergencia, esta tragedia tiene siglos y solo nosotros los habitantes de la Hispaniola lo hemos sabido desde siempre. Haití se escribe con H de horror, históricamente Haití siempre ha desubicado a América, históricamente huele a abandono y muerte. Cont>
Written by: FelixRD, 19 Jan 2010 10:22 PM
From: United States
Cont>
El presidente de la República, Secretario de Salud, Obras Públicas, Fuerzas Armadas... se encontraban allí antes de que el polvo se asentara. Además de aportar la cifra equivalente a 15 millones de Dólares, honrando la característica forma de vida dominicana de solidaria repartición de la pobreza.
Los hospitales de todas las ciudades están colapsados, pues a nadie se le ha negado la asistencia. Todos nuestros puertos y terminales aéreas están habilitadas para que la ayuda entre a través de nuestro país.
Tal ha sido la demostración de este pueblo que el embajador haitiano en Santo Domingo al empezar a agradecer a los dominicanos por su solidaridad no pudo contener las lágrimas y tuvo que ausentarse. CONT>
Written by: FelixRD, 19 Jan 2010 10:23 PM
From: United States
Cont>
Todavía me pregunto por qué la naturaleza liberó sus trágicas ondas y concentro su vaho de muerte durante un minuto y en veinticinco kilómetros cuadrados de ira como para descamarse a Puerto Príncipe de su epidermis; probablemente nunca tendré repuesta.
Exhorto a todos los dominicanos que tengan videos que evidencien la ayuda y solidaridad de nuestro pueblo que los envíen a Youtube, que las imágenes asesinen a los escritos arteros en contra de nuestra nación.
Por último seriamente propongo que los habitantes de Hispaniola por su ejemplo de convivencia sean nominados para el premio Nobel de la paz.
Escrito por el
Dr. Carlos H. García Lithgow
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
akay so god bless everyone!!!!
Written by: mjsd82, 20 Jan 2010 12:36 AM
From: United States
im new to this blog but i have a question, is josean dominican oor haitian cause he only talks bad about DR all the damn time.
From: Canada
glomaexplorer
Thank you for your down to earth, logical way of seeing and saying things. Indeed, the importance is not to be the first there, but to be there with only ONE COMMON goal : help those who are in such need. The importance is not the amount that one gives but the act of giving in a true spirit of humanity.
In newspapers (even here...) we read about what the DR is doing on a daily basis. Having done MANY phone calls to DR in the last week, it's the same message even from non Dominicans. Obviously, there are always people who complain everywhere. There have been quite a few examples of this over the last week. It's easy to complain and not do anything!
* A ray of sunshine : just heard on CNN - they collected over 8 million last night...
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
WELL DONE DR !!! The best givers never need publicity for the generosity but a thank you is always welcome .
Written by: fba73, 20 Jan 2010 10:53 AM
From: United States
to: dominicana
Tell me and all of us what benefit are we gonna have by uniting the island. We are so different in culture, Language, custom. What would you callled it the Island of Hispanioa or saint Domingue. What language will Dominate Spanish or French. What Flag will fly over goverment buildings, Which sport will be th National sport, which will the nationa religion. Are u kidding me? Juan Pablo Duarte , sanchez y Mella will Cry from the Grave. NOOOOOOOOOO
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
MJS82
josean is a sick individual with a deep seated hatred for DR, he's a haitian national that is having trouble dealing with past frustrations, maybe because he was descriminated against as a child and never recover. he also uses several handles in this site at the same time to agree with himself. Many time he's been ask to come clean and accept his haitianhood, but refuses everytime, not even on the eve of this tragedy the man stops spewing venom towards supposedly his own country.
Many times he sided with people and campaigns to discredit and damage the reputation of our country acusing DR of racism and xenophibia towards haitians, now that he's the one been discredited by the true nature of my people his garbage post are even worst than before.
Por suerte este tipo de parasitos tienden a tener una vida muy corta, eventualmente estos lambones pasaran a ser historia devido a su falta de conciencia y dominicanidad.
Dominicanidad que el quiere pero no puede tener.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
Josean what are you for real. Now I'm actually curiouse. Cause I thought Josean was a blck name and then all of a sudden some indian guy has it. That is so unfair anywho im goin 2 scool pce!
Written by: josean, 20 Jan 2010 1:38 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
I am 100% Dominican “Hasta la TAMBORA!”
The problem is that some of my compatriots a are SUPER “PATRIOTS” and EXTREME “NATIONALIST” that have an irrational xenophobic fear of unfortunate human beings living in the poorest country in the western hemisphere!
However, the sit on their hands when the REAL enemy of Dominican society are destroying it: the corrupt politicians, generals, police and their NARCO associates.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Canadafriend,
Thank you for your kind words.
Written by: josean, 20 Jan 2010 2:20 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Now can we ALL GET ALONG:
Reembolsarán la ayuda que RD ha dado a Haití
Santo Domingo.- El secretario de Hacienda, Vicente Bengoa, informó que Estados Unidos y la Unión Europea manifestaron al país su interés de reembolsar los gastos asumidos por República Dominicana para ayudar a la recuperación de Haití, mediante apoyo presupuestario.
http://www.listin.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=128655From: Germany, Stuttgart
mjsd82....josean is a PATRIOT.
Written by: Atabey, 20 Jan 2010 3:43 PM
From: United States, NYC
Great idea. Because Leonel and the government of DR did right. So the Big Boys respect that and put some cash. That's how it's done Josean. Good behavior=>good results.
But the real question is: What happens the Day After?
How can Haiti be re-constituted or re-balanced to meet the needs of its people?
Close to 5.461 million Haitians were 18 years or younger in 2007! There are close to 20 million people on the island of Hispaniola. That's more people than Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Martinique, put together!
Corruption is a problem, the impeding population Time Bomb is a Man-made tsunami in the making; and its implications will dwarf any corruption scandal you can think of now or in the future.
Pos Country Population
1 Cuba 11,204,000
2 D R 10,090,000
3 Haiti 10,033,000
4 PR (U S) 3,982,000
5 Jamai
Written by: Atabey, 20 Jan 2010 3:48 PM
From: United States, NYC
Pos Country Population
1 Cuba 11,204,000
2 Dominican Republic 10,090,000
3 Haiti 10,033,000
4 Puerto Rico (United States) 3,982,000
5 Jamaica 2,719,000
6 Trinidad and Tobago 1,339,000
7 Guadeloupe (France) 431,170
8 Martinique (France) 429,510
9 Bahamas 304,837
10 Barbados 275,330
11 Saint Lucia 168,178
12 Curaçao
From: Dominican Republic
In defense , I would like to say that at the heart of a true patriot is a true revolutionary spirit that spits venom over the corruption and exploitation that its leaders subject thier people to while refusing to conform to a spineless suckup and sell out majority that insists on making paper champion heros out of a tissue box .
Written by: Atabey, 20 Jan 2010 3:59 PM
From: United States, NYC
Written by: NegroDeLaBachata, 20 Jan 2010 3:36 PM
From: Germany, Stuttgart
mjsd82....josean is a PATRIOT.
Mjsd82 Josean means well but he does have a tendency to concentrate on corruption and Leonel Fernandez. His pet issues include the Metro which he believe is little more than a White Elephant and also a very strong advocate for EDUCATION. He can appear to think about nothing more. Negativity in all is his hallmark. Seldom will you witness a positive post, and if so it will be given a few notes of comments. He also tries very hard to get under the skin of many posters with sarcastic remarks, some of his fellow posters also engage in similar tactics. The Childish acts go on and on until one or more are removed from participating on DT. After a while, some come back a little less emotional and caustic posts, but you know what they say....
I hope this short review is valuable.
From: Germany, Stuttgart
Dominicana.....I pray that God protects Cuba as well. Because her people need protection indeed. Protection from Raul and the Bearded One. Just ask my girl Yoani Sanchez (
http://www.desdecuba.com/generationy/). She's caught in the everyday struggle of life in Cuba. She's been trying to get a piece of bread and a glass of milk for breakfast for the last few days without success. Apparently there's little to no bread or milk in Cuba at the moment. Although, state run television says there's an overabundance. Go figure. You can never tell with those wacky Cuban Communists....no? As long as you say it on state run (read state controlled) television, then it has to be true, no? The Bearded One never lies.....right? Did I mentioned the Bearded One sent thugs to beat up Yoani a few months back. Put her in jail too. Kicked in her door and confiscated her computer. But....viva la revolucion cubana, no? It's all good on la isla right?
From: Dominican Republic
Negro , are you too falling in love with the bearded one and little brother . They've just takin the Cuban conak away with the lunch rations . Please let your Yoani fetish lie awhile or the Mrs. will think your having an affair .
From: Germany, Stuttgart
Yoani is a cutie.....but there is nothing more beautiful than the women of La Dominicana!
From: Dominican Republic
Thats a tough call . To say that a pair of Dominicanas beats a full house of Cubanas would be inaccurate to say the least . Its a close call from my experience , but lets not invoke the editors lol.
From: United States
Honestly, us as Dominicans shouldnt care if people recognize us for doing anything because at the end of the day we know that we are helping Haiti. If people want to be ignorant and not recognize that we were there first to help and that we have opened our whole country so help them then f**k them!! =)
Written by: josean, 20 Jan 2010 5:35 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Halo, Slick Willie ere tu?
Si, si amigo it’s me. Look jump on the Haiti issue cause that dam BORICUA may have made a video of us and the Venezuelan at CASA de CAMPO. I know, I know you got no trouble with Margarita, but Hillary will cut off my joyas, comprende compadre!
Click!
Coño, Margarita Te dije que no le no le cojas las llamadas al jodio gringo ese!
From: Dominican Republic
Lachula,
you keep adding fuel to our fire friend . The only thing that matters is the image that the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC is portraying to the world . I understand . Its like a Napolean complex . You were the first ones to put a man to work in a rum factory but you couldnt be the first ones to put a man on the moon so now that you live close enough to peek in the window and watch your nieghbors make love every night , heres your chance at redemption and getting your just due. This is one Easter egg hunt you cant afford to loose , right?
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
Shocking discovery! Naw joke anyways bye pplz.
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Personally, I am 100 % opposed to any compensation from anyone for our contribution to the Haitian catastrophe. Our contribution should have been out of heartfelt compassion for human kind and without the expectation of any reward or compensation. This is akin to a sacrifice and, as such, means way, way more than any reward we might get.
Taking any quid pro quo compensation would have opposite effect of our intentions, and would only serve to diminish our reputation and expose us as opportunists.
Leonel, if you have any redeeming values, for the sake of our country, please turn down all offers of compensation for our contribution to Haitian earthquake crisis.
I'll much rather be broke and with dignity than rich without respect and in shame. This is a unique redeeming opportunity. Please don't let greed get in the way of correctness and diminish us as a nation.
Thank you.
Written by: jonbonz, 20 Jan 2010 10:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
did you see on the news where they are saying that Haiti said no thanks to the DRs offer of 800 personell for security?
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Quoted population statistics are shameful and exhibit great lack of self-control and much irresponsibility.
Dominicans must exercise great control and put measures in place to assure a self-sustaining population in harmony with available resources, otherwise they shall follow the Bangladesh model-sadly. No chance of ever emerging from deep, deep 3rd world status-ever!
You may choose to ignore this fact, perhaps out of a perverse sense of patriotism; however, the facts are what they are, and our population/natural resources ratio seems highly imbalanced.
MJEV.
Written by: Atabey, 20 Jan 2010 11:08 PM
From: United States, NYC
glomarexplorer,
It's going to get truly unbalanced if the extrapolations from the known Haitian demographic data are accurate. The youth profile projects to an explosive demographic trajectory for the coming decade or more. Not making this up, you can check out the facts. Young people naturally have most of their offspring from 18-40. So if Haiti's population is 10 million this year, what will it be say in 2020?
Written by: josean, 20 Jan 2010 11:17 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
There hasn’t been one Haitian caught with a box cutter trying to highjack a plane or trying to light up his sneakers or explode his underwear but this guys is worried about their demographic growth.
Look east my friend that is where the real and potential threat lies.
For that matter the Columbian and Boricua NARCOS are doing more damage to DR!
Written by: Atabey, 20 Jan 2010 11:33 PM
From: United States, NYC
Josean,
Do the math. If the stats are accurate Haiti will be pushing close to 15 million people by 2020. Now do you think that's sustainable?
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Abatey,
I see lots of despair and famine in their future, as well as ours. Yola business shall prosper dramatically. Prostitution business, however will suffer, due to unbalanced supply/demand equation, and price shall have to come down. As for education, forget about it-we couldn't build schools fast enough!
On positive side, METRO ridership should be up, which should make LF a belated visionary.
MJEV.
Written by: josean, 20 Jan 2010 11:40 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
I can't right now, I am looking for one of my posts that has mysteriously disappeared!
You wouldn’t happen to have seen it?
Written by: Atabey, 20 Jan 2010 11:43 PM
From: United States, NYC
Argue the facts Josean.
The corruption in DR is a serious problem, and I've never said you are wrong for keeping it alive,but the demographic challenges facing the DR are a seismic event in the making. Truly look at the facts, they may get worse because of the great tragedy unfolding in Haiti.
Written by: Atabey, 20 Jan 2010 11:48 PM
From: United States, NYC
No, but if I had any one to be annoyed with it would be your buddy down in DR who proves again your point about the lack of professionalism-in the DR- at the workplace. Saying veil and puerile things because he lacks good judgment and manners. He's one sick dude.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
Now that I'm actually pay attention. Dominican aid reached Haiti first what the hell. Are you seriouse! What is this suppost to be a proud moment for you or something? And no they didn't well I dont think so cause when they did ask the dominican republican people for help there president said he has to care for his country and stuff and that dominicans had problems to. This is a stupid article no offense.
Written by: jonbonz, 21 Jan 2010 12:16 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
I can remember the TV on all night here and when CNN was showing the different nations saying help was on the way you could see medivac flights already in SDQ and Dominicans bringing injured to Jimani. So yes the DR was first in. And yes it is something to be proud of because it was started with out high scale meetings before action was taken. It was just done on the fly and done well with what they had.
From: United States, Harbor Island (N bay Village, Fl)
I AM DOMINICAN....a young dominican american artist...who's traveled the world...and i've been representing my island of Hispaniola defending and promoting its people since way before this tragedy happened. OUR PEOPLE, this isn't about dominicans' differences or similarities with Haitians, or the fact we share the beautiful island...this is about HUMANITY...The documentary my friend and I have worked on for a couple of years now, directed and produced by my friend Kevin Sharpley (an african american) was about unfair immigration laws towards haitians and the fight against poverty and disaster...WATCH this song/video i composed for i...It will touch many subjects even the continuous racism latinos of color like myself have endured for decades....so when I ran out of words to say... this is what i did, i hope you grasp my contribution....or better yet, the fact I am just a messenger for someone that sent me this gift from above for YOU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HkW7rA39q8J
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
Wait do yall think I'm racist just curiouse? Cause everyone keeps telling me that. And I love everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont care who they are they should all be loved unless they kill themselves! Or are murderers or well I'll just say criminals in general!
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The Dominican Republic , despite its short-comings, has enjoyed economic development largely in part due to its natural resources (magnificent scenic beauty) that attracts tourism. Yes, golf is played there and a whole host of other sports. But one thing the DR is not capable of doing is nation-building. It simply does not have the resource to do so. However it's most certainly capable of lending a helping hand as we have seen recently.
In the case of Haiti, an economic development plan was put in place by the UN (effort spearheaded by Bill Clinton) well before the quake. The former president has vowed continue this plan once the nation has been rebuilt. It will be a long road to recovery indeed, and with the DR as its neighbor this process will be much easier for Haiti. Case in point, the DR has acted as a HUB for emergency response crews.
There is always a group of persons in government who steal from public coffers. Therefore every nation in the world is capable of stealing in one way or another.
this person is being sarcastic, welcome to this forum!
How about some props for DR's efforts?
Who the hellz cares about other countries say about DR, as far as i'm concerned france, italy and spain can lineup and take turns kissing my excessively hairy azz.
As long as the haitian people recognize our good gesture and assistance during this sad chapter of their history, that dominicans of all walks of life put their hands together to help Haiti, everybody from Junta de vecinos to all the wayup to the executive branch went above and beyond efforts to provide a helping hand, some even pay the ultimate price for their good deed, as i found out that one of the dominican men that got shot at in puerto pricipe while giving food to survivers die of his wounds.
I don't want to see some haitian senator asking for a minute of silence for the Haitian nationals murdered in DR at the hands of xenophobic dominicans or Sonia Pierre showing her fat face on TV crying and telling the world how racist we are.
As far a coverage goes, I think the coverage of the RD by CNN Espanol has been fair. I've only seen the RD and Mexico featured, however. I saw from the late night news that the Peruanos have at least one search and rescue team on the ground in Puerto Principe. I don't know about the rest of the Americas. I haven't been reading online RD publications, but I'm sure they're covering RD's contributions.
The RD has a right to expect due recognition, but I don't it's time for ambassadors to start "chest pounding" as josean put it. There will be time for that....maybe. But for the citizens of Quisqueya to ask those questions of media outlets....why not? I think that's appropriate. The Dominican gov't opened up its hospitals to wounded Haitianos at the expense of its own citizens, and provided medical care to Haitian gov't officials. I think its only fair to highlight all of this.
la verdad que esta lacra no tiene madre.
was up lacra, you got tired of posting under your alter ego- dominicanheartbeat.
not even when your people are going through such a difficult time are you able to show compassion and put down you moronic ranting about politics and conspiracy theories.
Only un gusano like you will come up with that kind of garbage that you just posted.
I guess that those two dominican men that got shot were in haiti making a quick buck and profiting from haitian suffering. I hope you only represent a minority of haitians with that kind of gratitude.
Yo se hace tiempo sabia que tu eres una lacra, lo que no sabia era la clase de lacra que eras.
In the past, responses of an emergency nature have been much slower and less pronounced. That is to say, the responses have been half-hearted, althjough done even in the light of overwhelming need for social responses within the DR itself (ie., Flood relief, Medical attention, civil unrest, other significant relief activities, etc.).
The response by letter to the Editors of the Spanish Media is well placed, both in time and circumstance. There has been virtually NO mention of the efforts by the DR Government to mitigate the need for immediate aid and comfort to Haiti.
I personally think such a lack of coverage is criminal, prima facia. There can be NO EXCUSE for such a disregaqrd for the efforts of the DR in the scenario presented.
TexasBil
I listen exclusively to English US media [also BBC, when it is available], and I've seen a lot of positive comments on Dominican nation’s involvement in aiding and facilitating rescue in Haiti.
I believe that giving is a most noble act, and one that should be executed without the least expectation for acknowledgement. Being first or last matters little to me. Being there and making a difference and bringing a smile to a wounded child is way, way more important to me. I neither expect nor want acknowledgement for my financial contribution to Haiti. I did it out of kinship with my fellow man and compassion, and expression of gratitude is absolutely unnecessary.
MJEV.
I can see why this site would want tobe quick and post this article...Wow, still trying to keep score so that later they could say "Oh, we contributed." Yeah we get the idea DT (lol). Golly, even in Haiti's predicament I see signs of exploit and reproachable tab keeping. Where is the decency, really?
Written by: josean, 19 Jan 2010 12:02 PM
From: United States
But one thing the DR is not capable of doing is nation-building.
Your right rodrigito! Including our OWN!
Written by: josean, 19 Jan 2010 12:13 PM
From: United States
Banistan,
I have to take my Sombreo off to you!
LIE-onel Fernandez's altruism is not so altruistic!
It’s about resorting DR second largest business partner as soon as possible before we feel the effect of the lack of consumption of our exports to Haiti to the tune of about three quarters of a Billion US dollars!
We are helping ourselves as much as we are helping them!
So, lets stop all this chest pounding Mr. Medina, like you are the second coming of Gandhi!
Soon many Dominican businesses will begin to speak Creole like LIE-onel, it’s in their economic interest and to some their very survival!
Drop DR debt
Last July the Paris Club countries agreed to cancel Haiti's foreign debt burden. This debt was unlikely to be repaid. This decision was reconfirmed during the Santo Domingo summit for Haiti, but President Leonel Fernandez took it a step further by proposing that dropping the Dominican debt could help develop Haiti.
Former Central Bank governor Guillermo Caram concurs. In an op-ed piece in Hoy newspaper, he writes that the United States, Spain, Venezuela, Japan and Brazil should cancel the Dominican Republic's bilateral foreign debt. Instead of paying the debt, the fund would be available for Dominican companies to work on the reconstruction of Haiti based on a master plan. Caram proposes the consolidation of all business energies into converting the DR into a platform for the reconstruction of Haiti for the Haitians.
Continued:
Source DR1
Un capcioso parte del periódico español ABC que ignominiosamente acusa a nuestro país de cerrar la frontera a los hermanos damnificados haitianos, ha desembalsado mi copa y he decidido verter mi indignación a través de la telaraña mundial (WWW).
Aunque el momento no es el más idóneo, creo que algún hijo de Quisqueya tiene el deber de responder a los Christopher Hartley, Solange Pie y Pedro Ruquoy del mundo.
¿Cómo es posible que este instante apocalíptico se aproveche para descrédito de nuestro país por algunas personas que viven del pago de interesadas ONGS?
En el momento que esto escribo, Sábado 16 de enero de 2010, 2:00 PM (hora de República Dominicana) no conozco una persona, un barrio (rico o pobre), un hospital o clínica privada, canal de televisión o programa radial de nuestro país que no esté volcado en la recolección de ayuda para Haití; se organizan puestos de acopio de medicinas, vacunas (se acabaron las de tétanos que teníamos
Precisamente hoy transmitían la alegre noticia de que una niña de un año y medio fue sacada de los escombros por un flaco joven de un barrio de Quisqueya que arrastró su vida por un pequeño hueco y media hora más tarde emergía con la criatura viva.
Ya para la madrugada siguiente al terremoto se habían trasladado diez cocinas móviles en las que se sirven 100 mil raciones diarias. También vimos como soldados cascos azules repartían unos "moros con pollo" que salían de unos camiones amarillos con letreros que ponían: "Gobierno Dominicano Comedores Económicos". Y es que hasta nuestro gobierno, tradicionalmente desorganizado e indolente, ha mostrado una efectividad y solidaridad desconocidas incluso para nosotros mismos. CONT>
Esta febricitante actividad ha sido puesta en marcha desde el mismo instante en que a nosotros también se nos movió la tierra y aún no se había levantado la alerta de tsunami para nuestras costas.
Antes de que el polvo se asentara el fatídico martes 12 de enero, eran Dominicanos los que estaban llevando ayuda y tratando de salvar vidas entre los escombros de Puerto Príncipe; fueron cámaras dominicanas las que generaron las primeras imágenes del " fin del mundo Haitiano", eran los morenitos dominicanos junto a los sobrevivientes haitianos que con picos, palas, patas de cabra, manos, uñas y dientes, rescataban a quien podían y observaban cómo las televisoras extranjeras desplegaban toda su tecnología millonaria para transmitir "LIVE" las infernales imágenes. Pero ni agua ni comida que supiera a superpotencia.
De repente Haití existe para la comunidad internacional, tenían que morirse por cientos de miles para que les hicieran caso; pero nosotros lo sabemos desde hace muchas décadas, porque sufrimos su desgracia que no es de este presente de "flat panel" en la sala de nuestra casa, porque hemos absorbido el 10% de su población con las manos extendidas en nuestras esquinas, campos y camas de hospitales, porque cavan zanjas en nuestras avenidas y se caen de andamios de nuestros rascacielos en construcción, porque estamos aquí y nos duele.
Pero esto no es de noticiarios y días de emergencia, esta tragedia tiene siglos y solo nosotros los habitantes de la Hispaniola lo hemos sabido desde siempre. Haití se escribe con H de horror, históricamente Haití siempre ha desubicado a América, históricamente huele a abandono y muerte. Cont>
El presidente de la República, Secretario de Salud, Obras Públicas, Fuerzas Armadas... se encontraban allí antes de que el polvo se asentara. Además de aportar la cifra equivalente a 15 millones de Dólares, honrando la característica forma de vida dominicana de solidaria repartición de la pobreza.
Los hospitales de todas las ciudades están colapsados, pues a nadie se le ha negado la asistencia. Todos nuestros puertos y terminales aéreas están habilitadas para que la ayuda entre a través de nuestro país.
Tal ha sido la demostración de este pueblo que el embajador haitiano en Santo Domingo al empezar a agradecer a los dominicanos por su solidaridad no pudo contener las lágrimas y tuvo que ausentarse. CONT>
Todavía me pregunto por qué la naturaleza liberó sus trágicas ondas y concentro su vaho de muerte durante un minuto y en veinticinco kilómetros cuadrados de ira como para descamarse a Puerto Príncipe de su epidermis; probablemente nunca tendré repuesta.
Exhorto a todos los dominicanos que tengan videos que evidencien la ayuda y solidaridad de nuestro pueblo que los envíen a Youtube, que las imágenes asesinen a los escritos arteros en contra de nuestra nación.
Por último seriamente propongo que los habitantes de Hispaniola por su ejemplo de convivencia sean nominados para el premio Nobel de la paz.
Escrito por el
Dr. Carlos H. García Lithgow
Thank you for your down to earth, logical way of seeing and saying things. Indeed, the importance is not to be the first there, but to be there with only ONE COMMON goal : help those who are in such need. The importance is not the amount that one gives but the act of giving in a true spirit of humanity.
In newspapers (even here...) we read about what the DR is doing on a daily basis. Having done MANY phone calls to DR in the last week, it's the same message even from non Dominicans. Obviously, there are always people who complain everywhere. There have been quite a few examples of this over the last week. It's easy to complain and not do anything!
* A ray of sunshine : just heard on CNN - they collected over 8 million last night...
Tell me and all of us what benefit are we gonna have by uniting the island. We are so different in culture, Language, custom. What would you callled it the Island of Hispanioa or saint Domingue. What language will Dominate Spanish or French. What Flag will fly over goverment buildings, Which sport will be th National sport, which will the nationa religion. Are u kidding me? Juan Pablo Duarte , sanchez y Mella will Cry from the Grave. NOOOOOOOOOO
josean is a sick individual with a deep seated hatred for DR, he's a haitian national that is having trouble dealing with past frustrations, maybe because he was descriminated against as a child and never recover. he also uses several handles in this site at the same time to agree with himself. Many time he's been ask to come clean and accept his haitianhood, but refuses everytime, not even on the eve of this tragedy the man stops spewing venom towards supposedly his own country.
Many times he sided with people and campaigns to discredit and damage the reputation of our country acusing DR of racism and xenophibia towards haitians, now that he's the one been discredited by the true nature of my people his garbage post are even worst than before.
Por suerte este tipo de parasitos tienden a tener una vida muy corta, eventualmente estos lambones pasaran a ser historia devido a su falta de conciencia y dominicanidad.
Dominicanidad que el quiere pero no puede tener.
where's the Afro-Lambones crew?
You know who you are
http://www.clavedigital.com/App_P....ion/Firmas.aspx?Id_Articulo=16660
The problem is that some of my compatriots a are SUPER “PATRIOTS” and EXTREME “NATIONALIST” that have an irrational xenophobic fear of unfortunate human beings living in the poorest country in the western hemisphere!
However, the sit on their hands when the REAL enemy of Dominican society are destroying it: the corrupt politicians, generals, police and their NARCO associates.
Canadafriend,
Thank you for your kind words.
Reembolsarán la ayuda que RD ha dado a Haití
Santo Domingo.- El secretario de Hacienda, Vicente Bengoa, informó que Estados Unidos y la Unión Europea manifestaron al país su interés de reembolsar los gastos asumidos por República Dominicana para ayudar a la recuperación de Haití, mediante apoyo presupuestario.
http://www.listin.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=128655
But the real question is: What happens the Day After?
How can Haiti be re-constituted or re-balanced to meet the needs of its people?
Close to 5.461 million Haitians were 18 years or younger in 2007! There are close to 20 million people on the island of Hispaniola. That's more people than Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Martinique, put together!
Corruption is a problem, the impeding population Time Bomb is a Man-made tsunami in the making; and its implications will dwarf any corruption scandal you can think of now or in the future.
Pos Country Population
1 Cuba 11,204,000
2 D R 10,090,000
3 Haiti 10,033,000
4 PR (U S) 3,982,000
5 Jamai
1 Cuba 11,204,000
2 Dominican Republic 10,090,000
3 Haiti 10,033,000
4 Puerto Rico (United States) 3,982,000
5 Jamaica 2,719,000
6 Trinidad and Tobago 1,339,000
7 Guadeloupe (France) 431,170
8 Martinique (France) 429,510
9 Bahamas 304,837
10 Barbados 275,330
11 Saint Lucia 168,178
12 Curaçao
From: Germany, Stuttgart
mjsd82....josean is a PATRIOT.
Mjsd82 Josean means well but he does have a tendency to concentrate on corruption and Leonel Fernandez. His pet issues include the Metro which he believe is little more than a White Elephant and also a very strong advocate for EDUCATION. He can appear to think about nothing more. Negativity in all is his hallmark. Seldom will you witness a positive post, and if so it will be given a few notes of comments. He also tries very hard to get under the skin of many posters with sarcastic remarks, some of his fellow posters also engage in similar tactics. The Childish acts go on and on until one or more are removed from participating on DT. After a while, some come back a little less emotional and caustic posts, but you know what they say....
I hope this short review is valuable.
Si, si amigo it’s me. Look jump on the Haiti issue cause that dam BORICUA may have made a video of us and the Venezuelan at CASA de CAMPO. I know, I know you got no trouble with Margarita, but Hillary will cut off my joyas, comprende compadre!
Click!
Coño, Margarita Te dije que no le no le cojas las llamadas al jodio gringo ese!
you keep adding fuel to our fire friend . The only thing that matters is the image that the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC is portraying to the world . I understand . Its like a Napolean complex . You were the first ones to put a man to work in a rum factory but you couldnt be the first ones to put a man on the moon so now that you live close enough to peek in the window and watch your nieghbors make love every night , heres your chance at redemption and getting your just due. This is one Easter egg hunt you cant afford to loose , right?
Taking any quid pro quo compensation would have opposite effect of our intentions, and would only serve to diminish our reputation and expose us as opportunists.
Leonel, if you have any redeeming values, for the sake of our country, please turn down all offers of compensation for our contribution to Haitian earthquake crisis.
I'll much rather be broke and with dignity than rich without respect and in shame. This is a unique redeeming opportunity. Please don't let greed get in the way of correctness and diminish us as a nation.
Thank you.
Quoted population statistics are shameful and exhibit great lack of self-control and much irresponsibility.
Dominicans must exercise great control and put measures in place to assure a self-sustaining population in harmony with available resources, otherwise they shall follow the Bangladesh model-sadly. No chance of ever emerging from deep, deep 3rd world status-ever!
You may choose to ignore this fact, perhaps out of a perverse sense of patriotism; however, the facts are what they are, and our population/natural resources ratio seems highly imbalanced.
MJEV.
It's going to get truly unbalanced if the extrapolations from the known Haitian demographic data are accurate. The youth profile projects to an explosive demographic trajectory for the coming decade or more. Not making this up, you can check out the facts. Young people naturally have most of their offspring from 18-40. So if Haiti's population is 10 million this year, what will it be say in 2020?
Look east my friend that is where the real and potential threat lies.
For that matter the Columbian and Boricua NARCOS are doing more damage to DR!
Do the math. If the stats are accurate Haiti will be pushing close to 15 million people by 2020. Now do you think that's sustainable?
I see lots of despair and famine in their future, as well as ours. Yola business shall prosper dramatically. Prostitution business, however will suffer, due to unbalanced supply/demand equation, and price shall have to come down. As for education, forget about it-we couldn't build schools fast enough!
On positive side, METRO ridership should be up, which should make LF a belated visionary.
MJEV.
You wouldn’t happen to have seen it?
The corruption in DR is a serious problem, and I've never said you are wrong for keeping it alive,but the demographic challenges facing the DR are a seismic event in the making. Truly look at the facts, they may get worse because of the great tragedy unfolding in Haiti.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HkW7rA39q8
J