Santo Domingo.– Today, a national holiday, hundreds of Dominican organizations will pay tribute to Founding Father
Juan Pablo Duarte in the 197th anniversary of his birth, with wreaths,
parades, masses and other activities.
Dominicnas will visit the remains of Juan Pablo Duarte,
Francisco del Rosario Sanchez and of Ramon Matias Mella in the National
Altar today, taking flowers to deposit in the park located at
Independencia and Bolivar avenues.
January 26 marks the birthday of Juan Pablo Duarte. During his early years he studied in Spain (1828-1833). Upon his
return to the Dominican Republic, he found that young Dominicans were
resentful of Haitian rule.
In response to this unrest, he and several
other patriots organized a secret society, La Trinitaria, to work
toward independence and to stimulate liberalism. His first attempt to oust the Haitians in 1843 collapsed, and he
fled the country; but his followers succeeded in overthrowing the
Haitians the next year.
In February 1844 Duarte returned, and the Dominican Republic proclaimed its independence.
Written by: Belly, 25 Jan 2010 1:21 AM
From: United States, Seattle, W.A.
Happy early Birthday Juan Pablo Durte. Duarte was born in January 26th so either DT is early or celebrating double like good Ole Dominicans do. Anyways I wish they were still here with us. RIP.No words can describe what they did for us as Dominicans.
Written by: BASTA, 25 Jan 2010 4:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
RIP.No words can describe what they did for us as Dominicans.and no words can describe what our Dominicans have done. God protect us from the PLD/PRD
Hmmmm how history repeats itself Duarte /Zelaya
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Dont drink and drive
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
come come Dag quit poking your stick in the bears cage
Written by: telemeco, 25 Jan 2010 8:38 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
Happy Birthday old man, thank for the gift,
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 8:45 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Thank you Juan Pablo Duarte for uniting all sections of Dominican society against those who sought to wipe out our language our culture and our institutions .The great difference between you and those who opposed us was that they based their nationhood on a racist ideal while you provided a unifying force for Dominicans of all shades!
Please forgive those who would for the sake of a perverse ideal called multiculturalism erase the achievements that you and others paid for with blood sweat and tears ,for the most insidious threat is the one that creeps in silently and the worst of people are those who would aid such destruction of the nation especially when they have forgotten what it means to be Dominican!
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 8:47 AM
From: Dominican Republic
"Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera"
Juan Pablo Duarte
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
RIP dear forefather that give us our freedom and allows to speak our language, follow our culture and do whatever We want with our freedom from the Haitians !
Long live your memory Juan Pablo Duarte ! We will never bend our backs to please foreing nations to stump in our Dominican pride !
From: United States
Over a hundred years later and his ideals are being trampled. Sold out by our leaders and passively invaded by those he repelled.
Dios, Patria, y Libertad.
Written by: generoso, 25 Jan 2010 9:58 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Juan Pablo Duarte, born in Santo Domingo from a Dominican mother from El Seybo, and (mainland) Spanish father from Cadiz, Spain said these words:
"Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera".
Which still rings true today.
Written by: juanb, 25 Jan 2010 10:04 AM
From: Dominican Republic
How sad it is that today we have no leaders.
All we have today are a bunch of crooks, united in their desire to get rich at the expense of the pueblo.
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 10:16 AM
From: Dominican Republic
"Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera"
This rings as true today as it did then for we still have people who would sell the country for financial or ideological reasons abound .Duarte did not have problems calling these people traitors and enemies of the nation and neither should we.
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 10:16 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Duarte was a great man ,but he did not live through the REPEATED Haitian attempts to destroy our nation for they never truly accepted our independence though they were practically newly arrived interloper while we had been here for over 200 years!
Dominican Republic has always been on the receiving end of Haitian "affection" with the one exception being the tyrant Trujillo's massacre. In general Dominicans have demonstrated that we have accepted the nation of Haiti as a reality while the same cannot be said from the other side.
True peace can only be arrived at through respect and not by positioning yourself on all fours and letting yourself be fuc..ed!
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
juanb
We in DR have many leaders that step up to the plate in times of crisis, and in times of peace.
We are very lucky in DR to have been spared this immense natural tragedy, that affected our neighbors, and which puts all our other ills in perspective. Yes, we have corruption maybe as high as 30%, but not like some other countries that are run by kleptocrats, with a corruption rate of 95%.
We must not be so critical when we have attained so much democracy and progress. Freedom of expression is taken for granted in the DR, the electoral process has progressed immensely, and the judicial system needs improvement, but our institutions are strong, and getting stronger.
Corruption is still high and will reduce slowly to maybe 15-20% of GNP which will be quite an accomplishment in the near future.
Coup de etats and dictators are a thing of the past, and democratic changes of government are the norm. The DR is an example to the rest of the Caribbean and keeps going forward.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
If we could just get josean to stop whining and complaining
From: United States
"True peace can only be arrived at through respect and not by positioning yourself on all fours and letting yourself be fuc..ed!"
Y sin vacelina.....Ouched..........!!!!
Hey........Pepe.... Right on the Bull's eyes..U Right!!!!
Or is it the Bull's Ass...
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
Is sad but true, nowdays JPD teachings are lost, very few celebrate his legacy and dedication to our country and our values.
His birthday will come and go without much celebration or proper remembrance of his sacrifice, nevertheless his work cannot be undone as we enjoy his greatest gift , The one thing nobody can't take away from US
FREEDOM BABY!!!!
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
Himno a Juan Pablo Duarte/ The Hymn to Juan Pablo Duarte
En la fragua de la escuela nuestra paria fue forjada, y al calor de tu enseñanza le infundió vida sagrada.
La gloriosa trinitaria que fundara tu heroísmo fue la cátedra primera de moral y de civismo.
Fuerza era que un maestro preparara la conciencia donde habría de nacer la soñada independencia
Y es así como cantamos tus virtudes allá el estro, junto al padre de la patria la figura del maestro
En la escuela se te honra por tus hechos sacrosantos en las letras y las notas encendidas de sus cantos
Y al honrarte recordamos tu patriótico heroísmo, es el prócer y el maestro que los dos son uno mismo
La Bandera dice Patria y al decirlo se revela que el alma del maestro señalándonos la escuela
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
El amo a la patria no hizo contraer compromisos sagrados para con la generación venidera; necesario es cumplirlos, o renunciar a la idear de aparecer ante e tribunal de la Historia con el honor de hombre libres, fieles y perseverantes.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
Sed justos lo primero, si queréis ser felices. Ese es el primer deber del hombre; sed unidos, así apagaréis la tea de la discordia y venceréis a vuestros enemigos, y la patria será libre y salva. Yo obtendré la mayo recompensa, la única a que aspiro, al veros libres, felices, independientes y tranquilos.
From: United States, NJ (M_ S Cibaeno 100%)
"Nuesta patria sera libre de toda potencia extranjera" JPD.
PLD, PRD, and everybody else, you can put them all together and won't get a DUARTE'S finger out of all of them.
Viva el patricio en nuestra memoria por siempre, sin olvidar lo que hizo por nosotros.
01/26/1813 to 01/26/2010.
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 11:43 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Watch out Trinitario the PC and leftist members don't want to see the Father of the country wrote in Castillian Spanish and all those UN PC terms like enemies!
Some sickos even compare him to a KKK member!
Written by: generoso, 25 Jan 2010 12:02 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Another famous Duarte saying, which seems to still have relevancy today:
"MIENTRAS NO SE ESCARMIENTE A LOS TRAIDORES COMO SE DEBE, LOS BUENOS Y VERDADEROS DOMINICANOS SERAN SIEMPRE VICTIMAS DE SUS MAQUINACIONES"
Juan Pablo Duarte
From: United States
Back then JPD found that young Dominicans were resentful of Haitian rule, however today younf Dominicans are resentful of their own government and leaders. Our forefather , if alive today, would be ashamed of what has become of our beloved nation.
Mi amor por la patria esta todo alborotado...
to say the least..
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 12:34 PM
From: United States
I guess that I am having difficulties with my postings, but anyways, I just wanted to invite all of you that live in NYC or those of you who live in the tri-state area to come to Duarte's square in Chinatown for a little dedication.
You'll see all the Dominican political futures and many of us that are part of the Dominican professional community. Some times, the city mayor will show, but I heard nothing about him this time.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
PEPE
just two week ago invoking JPD legacy on this website meant you're a dominican ultranotionalist racist and xenophobic.
The Afro-Lambones can't participate on this thread since they don't have dominicanidad, they don't love the land and can't understand the meaning of been part of this great country.
Written by: juanb, 25 Jan 2010 1:01 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Step up to the plate in times of crisis? Our politicians are the cause of all crises, with the exception of natural disasters such as earthquakes and hurricanes.
Q.) Who is to blame for the dismal education system?
A.) Corrupt leaders who take money that should be spent on improving education.
Q.) Who is to blame for the corrupt Military and Police officials?
A.) Corrupt leaders who take money that should be used to pay these people a living wage so they don't have to steal to put food on their tables.
Q.) Who is to blame for our failing electrical system?
A.) Corrupt leaders who allow their fellow thieves to run amok, hiring thousands of unneeded, overpaid friends and fellow party member for no show jobs.
Q.) Who is to blame for the crumbling infrastructure ( roads, bridges, etc.)
A.) Corrupt leaders who take the money for themselves.
Q.) Who is to blame for the growing drug traffic?
A.) Corrupt leaders who allow dishonest judges to continue to allow these crimes
Written by: juanb, 25 Jan 2010 1:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The list of questions is endless.
The answers are always the same.
From: Dominican Republic
In unison Companeros....Now that is a leader and a hero that a country can be truly be proud of and IM SURE HE WOULD BE JUST AS PROUD OF LEO AS ALL OF YOU ARE AS HE CONTINUES TO SELL OUT AND SELL OFF EVERYTHING THAT THIS ''TRUE WILLIAM WALLACE'' WAS WILLING TO SACRIFICE, BLEED AND DIE FOR .
Unfortunatly , I think this re-exposes Leos tan lines A LITTLE BIT and casts a VERY sobering light on his little glee club this morning as they re-fill thier latees . Where is Leo anyway ? He needs to see what true balls and patriotism are INSTEAD OF DREAMING ABOUT THE DAY HE GETS A STATUE FOR SENDING 150 SECURITY GUARDS OVER THE FENCE WHILE CATERING TO EXILED LEFTIST LOOSERS IN 5 STAR HOTELS . Oh barista, may I have a muffin with that expresso as well ?
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 1:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Very true Trinitario ,to some the word nationalism is a bad word as is Patriotism,they are like Miss Universe contestants who all remark "I want world peace..." .I am sure the vast majority of people everywhere want peace but when there is no respect there will never be peace and they can say anything they want to me but I will not move from what I know is right!
All the Afro lambones should abstain from sullying this date because according to them Haitians where doing us a favour and the rapes, wholesale genocide and forced marches they subjected our people to were their way of showing their love for Dominican brothers!
Most of these people though are far away physically and even further away emotionally from DR and those who gained our independence who most likely would have hung the scoundrels in the town square.
Viva Juan Pablo Duarte
Written by: generoso, 25 Jan 2010 2:01 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
juanb
old school
pepe32
Right on, truer words have not been spoken, without any waste.
From: Dominican Republic
''patriotism is a bad word''
Juan
oldschool
pepe32
AND NOW THE PROFESSOR,!
How can you 4 waffling traitors sleep at night ??? Barista. another round of latees for our knights at the round coffee table please.
From: United States
locals comments and expatriates comments !
Written by: generoso, 25 Jan 2010 2:31 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
dominicanheartbeat
Will you like your latte with or without cream? With your starbucks-oralfixation? LOL.
From: Dominican Republic
Prof,
I drink my coffee black with sugar bro lol , but I only drink at Starbucks when one of my yuppee friends with a Starbucks card treats me to a cup lol.
From: Dominican Republic
Who farted ? Pepelapew is here.
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 2:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Guys,I wouldn't trust the coffee served by Josean clone heartbeat and definitely not the cream!
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 2:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Funny thing is Etiennc01 is Haitian yet he makes a better Dominican than many of our far flung compatriots!
From: Dominican Republic
Etennic1,
I thought Martha was taking her Marthateers wind surfing in Caberete today ???
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 2:57 PM
From: United States
There is no need to go around waving flags in order to show your patriotism. I have always found that these are the first to run or have zero influence when it is time to get in the gutter and do the dirty behind the scene work for the betterment of the people.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
dag are you referring to your experiences with death squads you worked on
From: Dominican Republic
But Joel,
on my first post , Am I right or am I not ? Mr . Beck seems to think so lol ....
From: Dominican Republic
Easy BLU,
Joel just had his teeth whitened and hes trying to drink his latte through a straw this morning so he doesnt stain them.
From: Dominican Republic
Hey Leo,
This man freed them, the least you can do is feed them.
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 3:48 PM
From: United States
Blu, LOL. I like you even better now than before under the GC banner. At times I wish I worked for such organization, because trust me that it gets tiring seeing all the waving and the no action behind it.
Written by: josean, 25 Jan 2010 4:02 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"Written by: rodrigito, 25 Jan 2010 12:06 PM
From: United States
Back then JPD found that young Dominicans were resentful of Haitian rule, however today younf Dominicans are resentful of their own government and leaders. Our forefather , if alive today, would be ashamed of what has become of our beloved nation. "
Excellent!
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel: Samuel Johnson
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
Next thing you know, there won’t be a thinking-like Dominican standing. See, not one bullet shot - simply Multiculturalism bullshit. The hell with PLD, PRD, and whatever full of shit political party, we need to form “Los Trinitarios II” and take over our country.
We are DOMINICANS, socially, culturally, intellectually, spiritually, and morally different from them. I know some of you don’t feel that way ‘cause probably you are already compromised, however it doesn’t take a lot thought to digest my words.
Simply look at Rome, English Empire, Persian Empire, etc. All dissolved ‘cause of corrupt politicians who believed in MULTICULTURALISM.
DIOS, PATRIA, y LIBERTAD - JPD
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
Here we go...
Some referring to very important historical events and others simply kidding around unreal things.
History lapses in a circle, therefore - Haitians one day will rise and try to take over what they think is theirs?
For those who believe we are racist, it's not about that. It's about the fact there are men who cannot see beyond their past and present. As a result, one have countries such as Guatemala, Haiti, etc, etc, etc. My point is, if we keep feeling complaisant about the situation in the DR with Haitians, one day not so soon we won’t probably be Dominicans anymore. They don’t need to attack us with sticks and machetes. All they need to do is make babies and more babies, breed amongst ourselves, and we’re finished.
Written by: josean, 25 Jan 2010 4:18 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"however it doesn’t take a lot thought to digest my words. "
I can agree to that!
From: Dominican Republic
AHHHH, nice to hear that Trinity ..
Its a subtle but peaceful re-occupation and the Dominicans cant see the forest through the trees and there are many Haitians that probably feel that by rights ,'' this land is my land''. Ive always maintained the same position to a degree , but the island will be unified .
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 4:31 PM
From: United States
JPD said:
"Simply look at Rome, English Empire, Persian Empire, etc. All dissolved ‘cause of corrupt politicians who believed in MULTICULTURALISM"
JPD with all due respect but could have not been further from the truth. First, the main reason why these empire failed is because of the total opposite. They became old inflexible empire that had exhausted all their human capital and for fear of recruiting from conquered lands, fell to the hands of the barbarians and decay. Take a look at the Roman Empire, if Hadrian would had absorved the people of GAUL (today's) France and the people of the Iberian Peninsula (Spain) there will be no need to move the empire to east. The fact that they wanted to stay pure to their Etruscan ways limited their ability to support the republic.
English Empire often bragged about the "THE SUN NEVER SETS ON THE BRITISH EMPIRE" meaning that that they had so muc territory around the globe that the sun was laways shining in one of their possessions.
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 4:36 PM
From: United States
However, they never worried about intergrating those territories and allowing those people to make contributions to the Empire in turns of culture and skills acquired via their interaction with the land. If the crown would have given its American colony representation and a place in their society, then these people would have no need to break away, hence, "NO TAX WITHOUT REPRESENTATION."
Finally, the Persian Empire, the problem with XER II, was that every subject to his empire hated him and the persians for the control and lack of affection for these people. Therefore, as soon as Alexander the Great hit the land, most of the foreign soldiers simply retreated and allowed Alexander to destroy the evil Persians as they saw it.
Finally, the reason why the American Superpower has been able to survive for such a long time is due to its enbracement of multiculturalism and taking advantage of all those skills coming together under one country.
Written by: josean, 25 Jan 2010 4:39 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"Finally, the reason why the American Superpower has been able to survive for such a long time is due to its enbracement of multiculturalism and taking advantage of all those skills coming together under one country."
D, please easy, you’re dealing with child like simple minds, comments like that may constitute a form of child abuse!
From: United States, NJ (M_ S Cibaeno 100%)
There's a lot of people with baseless talk , what JPD has to do with race?
He did what he had to do, he gave us a free nation, a nacionality; today we live in a different era
with a global economy, people with different personal values, and upbringing, people with no moral, I can not expect anything less than a mere Sonia.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
" Very true Trinitario ,to some the word nationalism is a bad word as is Patriotism,they are like Miss Universe contestants who all remark "I want world peace..." .I am sure the vast majority of people everywhere want peace but when there is no respect there will never be peace and they can say anything they want to me but I will not move from what I know is right! "
Also the same skirt wearing hippies that are always complaining and crying about world peace are the first ones to hide under the bed when is time to fight for the greater good of the nation.
In regards of some of the comments posted here by our regulars lambones, you have to consider the source, this lambones are always expecting the government to do everything their parents are supposed to do, they are not able to understand that the patria is bigger than any political leader we have, and that thanks to people like JPD we're a free nation that celebrates democracy every four years.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
MSJERSEY
The people you see here posting pupu and twisting the topic to fit their frustrated agenda are the same people under a diferent name, sometimes talking to themselves to try to fool people, but this idiot is just fooling herself, you can change your name but you can't change your moronic rants.
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2010 6:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic
What I don't understand Trinitario is how these people can have multiple users ,don't they have a life or work to do??
I mean Brazil is one ,Josean has multiple personalities though he thinks he can fool people but when a "new" user comes in and has the same stupid MO and instantly supports their creator name and immediately attack the opponents of said creator with an eerie familiarity we all know what is up!
From: Dominican Republic
Father Lambone himself has arrived.
Is there any more room at the round table ? The very things that you are raising your flag and your nose in the air about are the very things that are being trampled on and destroyed if it has not already been sold . La patria is only as STRONG and credible as its leadership which is why 5 million of your people are not going to eat today my friend , so unless you yourself along with YOUR BANDWAGON OF MARTHATEERS are going to remove your skirts, pick up a shovel and open the soup kitchen , I suggest that you keep enjoying the botox rush and the trip down the waterslide.
From: Dominican Republic
Pepelapew,
People like yourself who lack the credibility ,creativity, conviction ,or stones to actually be willing to stand up or stand alone for what you dont even know if you actually believe( let alone being able to explain why you believe it) are the order of the day on this forum . So ,in order to save face and keep the waffle iron from dripping , you and your alliance of hippy lambones hide under each others skirts while touting your generic breed of patriotism and coffee shop political aspirations as you cry to the editors to pull the plug on those of us that do possess those qualites and are a threat to your inferiority complex . Get a life my friend . Some of us are actually on the clock getting paid while we ''have fun'' playing with the likes of yourself.
From: Dominican Republic
Twice I say,
When the term ''tin roof sundae'' causes a Dominican to think of ice cream instead of reminding him of the leak in the cieling that needs to be fixed this weekend and when the board of education has finally put the letter S back in the Dominican alphabet and every Dominicano can read ,understand and pronounce it while standing only 2 feet away from the chart during thier next eye exam ,then you will have a captive audience that is willing to listen to one who believes the patria is greater than its leader .
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 7:20 PM
From: United States
josean wrote:
""Finally, the reason why the American Superpower has been able to survive for such a long time is due to its enbracement of multiculturalism and taking advantage of all those skills coming together under one country."
D, please easy, you’re dealing with child like simple minds, comments like that may constitute a form of child abuse"!
You have no idea my brother, it is indeed painful some times. I need to have an intelligent exchange soon or i am going have to go get me some cafe negro y fuerte pronto.
From: United States, Florida
I know that the last years of Duarte's life were spent in Venezuela, . I believe either hearing or reading that he died a pauper in Venezuela. Is that true? Does any one of you know more details about that like was he recognized by Venezuela as one of the founding fathers of the DR? Was he given any recognition as a hero? anything.
From: Dominican Republic, San Carlos, barrio de matatanes, aqui no invente
Tu no eres solamente un LAMBON, tu eres un AFRO-LAMBOM
both of you
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 9:46 PM
From: United States
rjmathome, I have no idea who you are, since I have not seen you around. However, I will not resort to any insults, instead I am going to provide a few facts so you can then connect the dots and find out more about our founding father.
In reality we have three founding father, but of all three Duarte was the most outspoken and determined to liberate the country from Haitian's occupation. Duarte was a visionary and a man of liberal thinking, therefore, at an early age he came under the pressure of local leaders who wanted to return things back to Spain's domination.
In 1821, Mr. Nunez de Caceres became the first head of state of what was called Spanish Haiti, with the overthrow of the Spanish Crown. At this time Mr. Caceres asked for help from Mr. Bolivar of Venezuela, hence the connection of Duarte to this country. Bolivar denied any help to the people of Spanish Haiti, therefore, opening the door for Mr. Boyer leader of the Republic of Haiti to come in and take over the,
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 9:52 PM
From: United States
eastern side of the island.
Now pay attention here, since things get a little messy at this point in our history. In 1843, after fighting for the better part of his youth to liberate the eastern side, Mr. Duarte is exiled to Venezuela by the Boyer's occupation for being a trouble maker. During this time he continue with the pressure, until 1844 when the haitian finally left and he returned triumphantly back to his home land. The trouble were only starting for Mr. Duarte at this point, remember i said that he was a visionary and liberal thinker, well this did not go well with the loyalist.
The loyalist led by Gen. Santana a powerful landowner under the Spanish crown did not allowed Mr. Duarte to assume a post on the Island, instead he was shipped to Venezuela as a Dominican council by the Santana government.
He was never allowed to return to his beloved land and died in Venezuela nobly in 1876. Mr. Duarte never received the pension nor payments promised by the Santana gover
Written by: dagtan, 25 Jan 2010 9:58 PM
From: United States
government.
Now the most interesting part is that Mr. Duarte's remains were taken back to the Dominican republic by the first president of haitian decent, his name was Ulises Heraux (edit please). This president i believe in 1884 or 1885 buried Duarte along side his two most trusted friends and founding fathers, Sanchez and Mella in La Puerta del Conde, were they still rest today.
So no he did not died a pauper, but a man who because he was not wiling to give up his visions and liberal thinking for the favor of the Spanish, decided to stay and not be part of that rotten empire. This guy was a true hero, he gave all of his fortunes and energy to the cause of our land being free not only of haitian's occupation, but also from the influence of the rotten empire as he though of spain during his last days.
From: United States, Florida
Dagtan, thank you, thank you very much for a most extensive trivia of Dominican history. I really appreciate it. A bit about myself. I am a Dominican national living in the US for 53 years. My first return after departure since the 50s was in 1987-1993. I bought a house in which I plan to retire in a few years there. I am working towards the purchase of an apartment building in the capital city for extra income during my retirtement. The little Dominican history I know is what I have managed to pick up while in college about my country here in the US, so it is quite limited. In addition, I am not quite sure of its veracity. I have many more questions and concerns I would like to address, but I am rather conservative. For example, I have a problem with the name of our country, Dominican Republic. I would rather it be called "Quisqueya."
From: United States, Florida
...or "Republica de Quisqueya."
From: United States
Poor ignorants posted Duarte thoughts........ brazing "Better to be head of the Mouse than a tail of the Lion".
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
Written by: Pepe32, 27 Jan 2010 5:21 PM
From: Dominican Republic
No te preocupes Trinity que eso lo vamos a resolver y estos babosos afrolambones no tiene ni voz ni voto en nuestra querida Patria así es que déjalos ladrar que es señal que cabalgamos!
Pobre la niña dag tendrá que dedicar tiempo a descifrar eso ya que los afrolambones no saben nada de la cultura hispana excepto lo que dicen sus fuentes afronazi y la de la izquierda enferma y podrida!
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
This unification issue is something that only people who are very poorly informed seem to think is possible for I cannot imagine many Haitians or many Dominicans wanting any part of it ....The amount of paranoia is frightening ....This is something that cannot be imposed by outsiders ....Stop beating the war drums The moment anyone with a brain makes themselves aware of the complexity of the issue they realize it was not such a good idea no matter what they thought from afar......STOP THE WAR DRUMS...........................STOP THE WAR DRUMS
Written by: josean, 27 Jan 2010 5:47 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
From: United States
Our country is being negotiated with behind our backs.
0000
For one vote at the US congress we didn't bought the Island with the people on it for the little sum of 1 million dollars then, your Spanish owner we're very dissapointed !!!!
LOL
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
This is not about WAR DRUMS, this is about national pride, identity, and power strugle.
In 500+ years, what have they created and put together? Nothing, right!!!
Is that what you want? 500+ years of nothing. We already got plenty of our own ppl that do not understand what the past, present, and much less their future looks like?
And the fact, someone even thinks of uniting these two parts is an abomination to us DOMINICANS.
This is not about WAR DRUMS, this is about what's right? Dominicans for Dominicans, and for only those who are willing to bring positivism.
I know it's hard for some to understand, however after 500+ years we are this far, and if we keep working for a better future we'll get it.
Therefore, we should eliminate any threat at whatever cost!!
DIOS, PATRIA, y LIBERTAD - FPDD.
FUERA LA DESTRUCCION DE LA RD. ARRIBA EL DOMINICANISMO.
Written by: Pepe32, 28 Jan 2010 6:33 PM
From: Dominican Republic
JPD ,all fine except for one thing,they have only been there 200 plus years. You see that is a serious bit of misinformation they try to pull somehow starting their history when Columbus arrived when the people known today as Haitians did not arrive until the late 1700's ,before that they were in West Africa unaware that this island even existed. They used the name Haiti to somehow lend some depth to their shallow presence on the island. We then spent a good part of the 19th century fighting off the Haitians who did not accept our right as a free nation and who in many cases wanted to annihilate us (see Faustin Soulouque) yet somehow due to the twisted media and the Afrolambon movement ,Trujillo's one action gets all the press while the continuous and persistent Haitian actions are virtually unknown .
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Hmmmm how history repeats itself Duarte /Zelaya
Please forgive those who would for the sake of a perverse ideal called multiculturalism erase the achievements that you and others paid for with blood sweat and tears ,for the most insidious threat is the one that creeps in silently and the worst of people are those who would aid such destruction of the nation especially when they have forgotten what it means to be Dominican!
Juan Pablo Duarte
Long live your memory Juan Pablo Duarte ! We will never bend our backs to please foreing nations to stump in our Dominican pride !
Dios, Patria, y Libertad.
"Los enemigos de la Patria, por consiguiente nuestros, están todos muy acordes en estas ideas; destruir la nacionalidad aunque para ello sea preciso aniquilar a la Nación entera".
Which still rings true today.
All we have today are a bunch of crooks, united in their desire to get rich at the expense of the pueblo.
This rings as true today as it did then for we still have people who would sell the country for financial or ideological reasons abound .Duarte did not have problems calling these people traitors and enemies of the nation and neither should we.
Dominican Republic has always been on the receiving end of Haitian "affection" with the one exception being the tyrant Trujillo's massacre. In general Dominicans have demonstrated that we have accepted the nation of Haiti as a reality while the same cannot be said from the other side.
True peace can only be arrived at through respect and not by positioning yourself on all fours and letting yourself be fuc..ed!
We in DR have many leaders that step up to the plate in times of crisis, and in times of peace.
We are very lucky in DR to have been spared this immense natural tragedy, that affected our neighbors, and which puts all our other ills in perspective. Yes, we have corruption maybe as high as 30%, but not like some other countries that are run by kleptocrats, with a corruption rate of 95%.
We must not be so critical when we have attained so much democracy and progress. Freedom of expression is taken for granted in the DR, the electoral process has progressed immensely, and the judicial system needs improvement, but our institutions are strong, and getting stronger.
Corruption is still high and will reduce slowly to maybe 15-20% of GNP which will be quite an accomplishment in the near future.
Coup de etats and dictators are a thing of the past, and democratic changes of government are the norm. The DR is an example to the rest of the Caribbean and keeps going forward.
Y sin vacelina.....Ouched..........!!!!
Hey........Pepe.... Right on the Bull's eyes..U Right!!!!
Or is it the Bull's Ass...
Is sad but true, nowdays JPD teachings are lost, very few celebrate his legacy and dedication to our country and our values.
His birthday will come and go without much celebration or proper remembrance of his sacrifice, nevertheless his work cannot be undone as we enjoy his greatest gift , The one thing nobody can't take away from US
FREEDOM BABY!!!!
En la fragua de la escuela nuestra paria fue forjada, y al calor de tu enseñanza le infundió vida sagrada.
La gloriosa trinitaria que fundara tu heroísmo fue la cátedra primera de moral y de civismo.
Fuerza era que un maestro preparara la conciencia donde habría de nacer la soñada independencia
Y es así como cantamos tus virtudes allá el estro, junto al padre de la patria la figura del maestro
En la escuela se te honra por tus hechos sacrosantos en las letras y las notas encendidas de sus cantos
Y al honrarte recordamos tu patriótico heroísmo, es el prócer y el maestro que los dos son uno mismo
La Bandera dice Patria y al decirlo se revela que el alma del maestro señalándonos la escuela
El amo a la patria no hizo contraer compromisos sagrados para con la generación venidera; necesario es cumplirlos, o renunciar a la idear de aparecer ante e tribunal de la Historia con el honor de hombre libres, fieles y perseverantes.
PLD, PRD, and everybody else, you can put them all together and won't get a DUARTE'S finger out of all of them.
Viva el patricio en nuestra memoria por siempre, sin olvidar lo que hizo por nosotros.
01/26/1813 to 01/26/2010.
Some sickos even compare him to a KKK member!
Another famous Duarte saying, which seems to still have relevancy today:
"MIENTRAS NO SE ESCARMIENTE A LOS TRAIDORES COMO SE DEBE, LOS BUENOS Y VERDADEROS DOMINICANOS SERAN SIEMPRE VICTIMAS DE SUS MAQUINACIONES"
Juan Pablo Duarte
Mi amor por la patria esta todo alborotado...
to say the least..
You'll see all the Dominican political futures and many of us that are part of the Dominican professional community. Some times, the city mayor will show, but I heard nothing about him this time.
PEPE
just two week ago invoking JPD legacy on this website meant you're a dominican ultranotionalist racist and xenophobic.
The Afro-Lambones can't participate on this thread since they don't have dominicanidad, they don't love the land and can't understand the meaning of been part of this great country.
Q.) Who is to blame for the dismal education system?
A.) Corrupt leaders who take money that should be spent on improving education.
Q.) Who is to blame for the corrupt Military and Police officials?
A.) Corrupt leaders who take money that should be used to pay these people a living wage so they don't have to steal to put food on their tables.
Q.) Who is to blame for our failing electrical system?
A.) Corrupt leaders who allow their fellow thieves to run amok, hiring thousands of unneeded, overpaid friends and fellow party member for no show jobs.
Q.) Who is to blame for the crumbling infrastructure ( roads, bridges, etc.)
A.) Corrupt leaders who take the money for themselves.
Q.) Who is to blame for the growing drug traffic?
A.) Corrupt leaders who allow dishonest judges to continue to allow these crimes
The answers are always the same.
Unfortunatly , I think this re-exposes Leos tan lines A LITTLE BIT and casts a VERY sobering light on his little glee club this morning as they re-fill thier latees . Where is Leo anyway ? He needs to see what true balls and patriotism are INSTEAD OF DREAMING ABOUT THE DAY HE GETS A STATUE FOR SENDING 150 SECURITY GUARDS OVER THE FENCE WHILE CATERING TO EXILED LEFTIST LOOSERS IN 5 STAR HOTELS . Oh barista, may I have a muffin with that expresso as well ?
All the Afro lambones should abstain from sullying this date because according to them Haitians where doing us a favour and the rapes, wholesale genocide and forced marches they subjected our people to were their way of showing their love for Dominican brothers!
Most of these people though are far away physically and even further away emotionally from DR and those who gained our independence who most likely would have hung the scoundrels in the town square.
Viva Juan Pablo Duarte
old school
pepe32
Right on, truer words have not been spoken, without any waste.
Juan
oldschool
pepe32
AND NOW THE PROFESSOR,!
How can you 4 waffling traitors sleep at night ??? Barista. another round of latees for our knights at the round coffee table please.
Will you like your latte with or without cream? With your starbucks-oralfixation? LOL.
I drink my coffee black with sugar bro lol , but I only drink at Starbucks when one of my yuppee friends with a Starbucks card treats me to a cup lol.
I thought Martha was taking her Marthateers wind surfing in Caberete today ???
on my first post , Am I right or am I not ? Mr . Beck seems to think so lol ....
Joel just had his teeth whitened and hes trying to drink his latte through a straw this morning so he doesnt stain them.
This man freed them, the least you can do is feed them.
From: United States
Back then JPD found that young Dominicans were resentful of Haitian rule, however today younf Dominicans are resentful of their own government and leaders. Our forefather , if alive today, would be ashamed of what has become of our beloved nation. "
Excellent!
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel: Samuel Johnson
We are DOMINICANS, socially, culturally, intellectually, spiritually, and morally different from them. I know some of you don’t feel that way ‘cause probably you are already compromised, however it doesn’t take a lot thought to digest my words.
Simply look at Rome, English Empire, Persian Empire, etc. All dissolved ‘cause of corrupt politicians who believed in MULTICULTURALISM.
DIOS, PATRIA, y LIBERTAD - JPD
Some referring to very important historical events and others simply kidding around unreal things.
History lapses in a circle, therefore - Haitians one day will rise and try to take over what they think is theirs?
For those who believe we are racist, it's not about that. It's about the fact there are men who cannot see beyond their past and present. As a result, one have countries such as Guatemala, Haiti, etc, etc, etc. My point is, if we keep feeling complaisant about the situation in the DR with Haitians, one day not so soon we won’t probably be Dominicans anymore. They don’t need to attack us with sticks and machetes. All they need to do is make babies and more babies, breed amongst ourselves, and we’re finished.
I can agree to that!
Its a subtle but peaceful re-occupation and the Dominicans cant see the forest through the trees and there are many Haitians that probably feel that by rights ,'' this land is my land''. Ive always maintained the same position to a degree , but the island will be unified .
"Simply look at Rome, English Empire, Persian Empire, etc. All dissolved ‘cause of corrupt politicians who believed in MULTICULTURALISM"
JPD with all due respect but could have not been further from the truth. First, the main reason why these empire failed is because of the total opposite. They became old inflexible empire that had exhausted all their human capital and for fear of recruiting from conquered lands, fell to the hands of the barbarians and decay. Take a look at the Roman Empire, if Hadrian would had absorved the people of GAUL (today's) France and the people of the Iberian Peninsula (Spain) there will be no need to move the empire to east. The fact that they wanted to stay pure to their Etruscan ways limited their ability to support the republic.
English Empire often bragged about the "THE SUN NEVER SETS ON THE BRITISH EMPIRE" meaning that that they had so muc territory around the globe that the sun was laways shining in one of their possessions.
Finally, the Persian Empire, the problem with XER II, was that every subject to his empire hated him and the persians for the control and lack of affection for these people. Therefore, as soon as Alexander the Great hit the land, most of the foreign soldiers simply retreated and allowed Alexander to destroy the evil Persians as they saw it.
Finally, the reason why the American Superpower has been able to survive for such a long time is due to its enbracement of multiculturalism and taking advantage of all those skills coming together under one country.
"Finally, the reason why the American Superpower has been able to survive for such a long time is due to its enbracement of multiculturalism and taking advantage of all those skills coming together under one country."
D, please easy, you’re dealing with child like simple minds, comments like that may constitute a form of child abuse!
He did what he had to do, he gave us a free nation, a nacionality; today we live in a different era
with a global economy, people with different personal values, and upbringing, people with no moral, I can not expect anything less than a mere Sonia.
" Very true Trinitario ,to some the word nationalism is a bad word as is Patriotism,they are like Miss Universe contestants who all remark "I want world peace..." .I am sure the vast majority of people everywhere want peace but when there is no respect there will never be peace and they can say anything they want to me but I will not move from what I know is right! "
Also the same skirt wearing hippies that are always complaining and crying about world peace are the first ones to hide under the bed when is time to fight for the greater good of the nation.
In regards of some of the comments posted here by our regulars lambones, you have to consider the source, this lambones are always expecting the government to do everything their parents are supposed to do, they are not able to understand that the patria is bigger than any political leader we have, and that thanks to people like JPD we're a free nation that celebrates democracy every four years.
MSJERSEY
The people you see here posting pupu and twisting the topic to fit their frustrated agenda are the same people under a diferent name, sometimes talking to themselves to try to fool people, but this idiot is just fooling herself, you can change your name but you can't change your moronic rants.
I mean Brazil is one ,Josean has multiple personalities though he thinks he can fool people but when a "new" user comes in and has the same stupid MO and instantly supports their creator name and immediately attack the opponents of said creator with an eerie familiarity we all know what is up!
Is there any more room at the round table ? The very things that you are raising your flag and your nose in the air about are the very things that are being trampled on and destroyed if it has not already been sold . La patria is only as STRONG and credible as its leadership which is why 5 million of your people are not going to eat today my friend , so unless you yourself along with YOUR BANDWAGON OF MARTHATEERS are going to remove your skirts, pick up a shovel and open the soup kitchen , I suggest that you keep enjoying the botox rush and the trip down the waterslide.
People like yourself who lack the credibility ,creativity, conviction ,or stones to actually be willing to stand up or stand alone for what you dont even know if you actually believe( let alone being able to explain why you believe it) are the order of the day on this forum . So ,in order to save face and keep the waffle iron from dripping , you and your alliance of hippy lambones hide under each others skirts while touting your generic breed of patriotism and coffee shop political aspirations as you cry to the editors to pull the plug on those of us that do possess those qualites and are a threat to your inferiority complex . Get a life my friend . Some of us are actually on the clock getting paid while we ''have fun'' playing with the likes of yourself.
When the term ''tin roof sundae'' causes a Dominican to think of ice cream instead of reminding him of the leak in the cieling that needs to be fixed this weekend and when the board of education has finally put the letter S back in the Dominican alphabet and every Dominicano can read ,understand and pronounce it while standing only 2 feet away from the chart during thier next eye exam ,then you will have a captive audience that is willing to listen to one who believes the patria is greater than its leader .
""Finally, the reason why the American Superpower has been able to survive for such a long time is due to its enbracement of multiculturalism and taking advantage of all those skills coming together under one country."
D, please easy, you’re dealing with child like simple minds, comments like that may constitute a form of child abuse"!
You have no idea my brother, it is indeed painful some times. I need to have an intelligent exchange soon or i am going have to go get me some cafe negro y fuerte pronto.
both of you
In reality we have three founding father, but of all three Duarte was the most outspoken and determined to liberate the country from Haitian's occupation. Duarte was a visionary and a man of liberal thinking, therefore, at an early age he came under the pressure of local leaders who wanted to return things back to Spain's domination.
In 1821, Mr. Nunez de Caceres became the first head of state of what was called Spanish Haiti, with the overthrow of the Spanish Crown. At this time Mr. Caceres asked for help from Mr. Bolivar of Venezuela, hence the connection of Duarte to this country. Bolivar denied any help to the people of Spanish Haiti, therefore, opening the door for Mr. Boyer leader of the Republic of Haiti to come in and take over the,
Now pay attention here, since things get a little messy at this point in our history. In 1843, after fighting for the better part of his youth to liberate the eastern side, Mr. Duarte is exiled to Venezuela by the Boyer's occupation for being a trouble maker. During this time he continue with the pressure, until 1844 when the haitian finally left and he returned triumphantly back to his home land. The trouble were only starting for Mr. Duarte at this point, remember i said that he was a visionary and liberal thinker, well this did not go well with the loyalist.
The loyalist led by Gen. Santana a powerful landowner under the Spanish crown did not allowed Mr. Duarte to assume a post on the Island, instead he was shipped to Venezuela as a Dominican council by the Santana government.
He was never allowed to return to his beloved land and died in Venezuela nobly in 1876. Mr. Duarte never received the pension nor payments promised by the Santana gover
Now the most interesting part is that Mr. Duarte's remains were taken back to the Dominican republic by the first president of haitian decent, his name was Ulises Heraux (edit please). This president i believe in 1884 or 1885 buried Duarte along side his two most trusted friends and founding fathers, Sanchez and Mella in La Puerta del Conde, were they still rest today.
So no he did not died a pauper, but a man who because he was not wiling to give up his visions and liberal thinking for the favor of the Spanish, decided to stay and not be part of that rotten empire. This guy was a true hero, he gave all of his fortunes and energy to the cause of our land being free not only of haitian's occupation, but also from the influence of the rotten empire as he though of spain during his last days.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/20....-haiti-dominican-republic-merge/#
Our country is being negotiated with behind our backs.
WAKE UP DOMINICANS....WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR WHAT"S OURS?
The earthquake is over. It's time to send them all back.
Pobre la niña dag tendrá que dedicar tiempo a descifrar eso ya que los afrolambones no saben nada de la cultura hispana excepto lo que dicen sus fuentes afronazi y la de la izquierda enferma y podrida!
The Conflict Between Haiti and the Dominican Republic
By Jalisco Lancer
http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=conflict_haiti_dominican
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For one vote at the US congress we didn't bought the Island with the people on it for the little sum of 1 million dollars then, your Spanish owner we're very dissapointed !!!!
LOL
In 500+ years, what have they created and put together? Nothing, right!!!
Is that what you want? 500+ years of nothing. We already got plenty of our own ppl that do not understand what the past, present, and much less their future looks like?
And the fact, someone even thinks of uniting these two parts is an abomination to us DOMINICANS.
This is not about WAR DRUMS, this is about what's right? Dominicans for Dominicans, and for only those who are willing to bring positivism.
I know it's hard for some to understand, however after 500+ years we are this far, and if we keep working for a better future we'll get it.
Therefore, we should eliminate any threat at whatever cost!!
DIOS, PATRIA, y LIBERTAD - FPDD.
FUERA LA DESTRUCCION DE LA RD. ARRIBA EL DOMINICANISMO.