From: United States
the last sentance is EPIC!!!!!!
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
this must be part of a very nice nest of thugs and dirt balls working for the government
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Come on ..this is too much.. this guy was deported from the USA for being in possession of crack ..some one has to take responsibility and resign or be dismissed for such a dreadful error . It is not good enough just to have Saviñon dismissed. I simply do not believe that this man was employed in the offices of the President without some checks. It is obvious that the President needs some better people around him in this area .
Written by: LaVerdad, 7 Jan 2010 11:39 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santiago
increibleeeeeee, was he deported after he was dishonorably discharged, or is the army recruiting dpeees?
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
he was in the army and was in New York when they caught him with crack and deported him back here .
Written by: generoso, 7 Jan 2010 11:58 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Latest chapter in the historical novel: José Figueroa Agosto= The DEA trojan horse that infiltrated the DR government and military.
Scrambling and DR government damage control is happening as we speak= Population and spectator eyes from the US are awaiting, jail, sanctions, arrests of big wheels= So far NADA.
Maybe they are waiting to wake up from this PR nightmare and everything to go away and vanish.
One more clue, Figueroa Agosto's handlers were changed after a new MO, faces and policies of spook supervisors occurred a few months after Obama took office.
It is all entertainment, folks.
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
That's why he was paid only 7 to 10,000 pesos.
Had he been a kingpin, he would have had a higher ranking post and earned much more.
From: Canada
If the hiring of this man was a gross error, then it reveals the incompetance so close to the seat of power. If on the other hand he was deliberately hired with knowledge of who he is, then it reveals how corrupt the seat of power is. Either way, we lose.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
TRINITARIO ,,yes I believe that summary is correct and the Dominican people need to know which option is correct
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 12:15 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
" then it reveals the incompetance so close to the seat of power"
I BEG TO DIFFER " the incompetance'" IS THE SEAT OF POWER AND IT HAS A FIRST AND LAST NAME ---------- LIE-onel FERNANDEZ!
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 12:19 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"It is obvious that the President needs some better people around him in this area ."
What is OBVIOUS is that the DR needs a new president immediately!
From: Canada
Josean, first let me say that I appreciate most of your posts for your determination and consistancy. I would ask you to consider one thing and that is, is it reasonable to attribute all the ills of this country to one man, in this case the current president? There aren't enough hours in a day or a month for that matter for one man to deal with all the problems we face. Our history is being repeated over and over so what we face is nothing new. I don't want to come across as an apologist for this administration because I'm not. What we need to do is start from scratch and rebuild our institutions. We are f***ed because the kinds of change that we need can only be brought about by an uprising and that will never happen.
Written by: Lopez31, 7 Jan 2010 12:33 PM
From: United States
Parese mas haitiano que dominicano.
From: United States
WTF does this mean?
"forced to fire the ex Army Major who has been linked to the murder"
When should anyone need to be 'forced' to fire someone who had this kind of background?
Dominicans must be so proud of their ‘leaders’. These are the people running the country. Either way, they are morons and they have no integrity.
They need to ALL be fired.
Written by: dominica, 7 Jan 2010 12:49 PM
From: United States
So now I understand why Josean acts the way he acts. I didn't get it before Josean so I appologize but it all makes sense now. The government is a real comedy show. We have an Army that traffics drugs. We have a drug control agency that is a mafia. We have police that are just a gang. And dominicans live in a place that is ruled by thugs. I always couldn't understand why they line people up in the middle east and just shoot em in front of the young and the public. I'm not sure I agree but it does seem like a pleasant alternative at this time. What is the right of the people if their government is useless? Do the people have a right to overthrow? I am not even sure this government is capable of carrying on the interest of its people any longer. LF really is at fault he should not be elected ever again.
From: United States
LF should be impeached, immediately.
He is supposed to lead by example, but he does nothing.
If he did not know this man was in HIS service he is a flaming moron.
If he did know then he is complicit and should be tried as a traitor to the Dominican Republic and hanged.
80% of HIS people are poor and he has done NOTHING to help.
And any fool out there that says he handed out food baskets for Christmas is just that, a fool.
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 12:57 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Trinitarioplusone,
Normal I would agree with you that it would be unjust to blame one human being for every negative action that occurs in a government when you have solid democratic institutions with oversight and checks and balances.
However, in DR we have a dictatorship masquerading as a DEMOCRACY which gives the president extraordinary powers and resources. LIE-onel Fernandez was supposed to move us away from the this traditional Caudillismo/Trujillismo, but he has done the total opposite and has even expanded it in HIS new constitution.
During the last election he refused to have public one on one debates with the other presidential contenders, because none of them could "conceptualize like him." In fact Danilo Medina his former right-hand man accused him of use the resources of the state like never before to both beat him in the primary and the to win the general election.
continued:
Written by: dominica, 7 Jan 2010 12:57 PM
From: United States
i don't even know why this guy isn't facing life in prison. They should seriously consider a death penalty in DR.
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 12:59 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
So LIE-onel Fernandez is not some country bumpkin way over his head like people project Hipolitio, who also is a fox, or some professorial decent type who is oblivious to the daily realities and is poorly served by his corrupt aides, associates or compadres.
LIE-onel Fernandez is a slick as the come he has developed the Boy Scout image insulated by the Teflon of his apologist in the media, government, the PLD and here on DT.
He has people believing he is the greatest president we have ever had and has brought the most progress to the nation, so if he is so great and has so much power how can he not at least know what’s happening, if not DIRECTLY involved.
That Dog wouldn’t hunt my friend!
This guy is Noriega 2.0!
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 1:05 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
dominica,
No need to apologize my friend but I do thank you for your comment. Believe it or nit it means a lot to me when I am able to humbly share a little light to any other human being.
Hang in theis nightmare, like Trujillos 31 years to shall pass and the Dominican Republic will be a just society for ALL its people.
Written by: juanb, 7 Jan 2010 1:09 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Trini:
There are not enough hours in the day to deal with all of our problems. There are, however, enough hours in the day to deal with a couple of them. If LF were interested in anything other than promoting himself as a world class diplomat, he would take some time from sticking his nose in other country's business, spend a little less time showing up at the in vogue funeral, waste a little less time with his cumbres, commissions, and meetings which are only for show and he would take all that time and try to address AND SOLVE one problem per day: Instead of his pronouncements of "zero tolerance" for dishonesty in government he would actually cause the agency charged with this responsibility to do its job. Don't just talk about a problem, do something.
When there are problems at a big company, the head of the company must make the tough decisions to affect change, not just have his picture taken giving a watch to a retiring employee.
Remember: The fish stinks from the head.
Written by: Lopez31, 7 Jan 2010 1:12 PM
From: United States
There are 3 options on the table to resolve the situation in DR!
1. Socialism
2. Socialism
3. Socialism
Written by: juanb, 7 Jan 2010 1:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Here's what to work on next week:
Solve the education problem, by finding the money you promise to invest in it, every year.
Figure out how to pay our Military and our Police a decent wage.
Investigate the source of wealth of the politicians.
Find out which of our judges are corrupt, AND GET THEM PUNISHED
Stop lieing to us about the economic situation. If you believe what you tell us you are more out of touch with reality than we realized.
Cut government costs instead of constantly putting the country deeper in debt.
Take Sunday off. If you actually start getting some of these problems solved, get back to me, I have another load.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Josean ..the new constitution was a joint party deal ..it was not just Leonel and I do not like the political system here either as I am used to the Westminster system that operates in most Commonwealth countries .In the Presidential system , I believe the risks are greater ,,,but it is the one that is here and I doubt if it will alter .
I doubt if anything will change after the next Presidential election nor is there any will for a change in either party or in the administration.
However at this stage we do not know where this scandal will lead to ..if the President is at all involved with this business then he should resign ..but as is more likely it should be the people who are responsible for the employment of Saviñon who should be dismissed .
The main tragedy here is that it is so hard to change the general culture of any administration no matter who is in power ..maybe the newly elected Dominican mayor in the USA is the sort of person needed
From: United States
juanb, perfect......
From: United States
Josean who do you suggest as your candidate to take over the Presidency? And please be very careful what you wish for, cause you just may get it, in more ways than one. So please entertain me.
Written by: jonbonz, 7 Jan 2010 2:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
The reality is when Monica was the scandel in the White House then the US went to war with Serbia over soemthing that had been ignored and called a European Problem.
In the US now there is a big amount of problems with the economy and such. All is needed is an excuse to find a winable little war for political pourposes.
Narco Terrorism is identified as a threat there.
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 2:11 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
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From: Canada
Anyone here looking to identify one person for president who could change things, doesen't understand the problem. The national septic tank is overflowing and needs to be pumped. Expecting one person to do it is unrealistic. The population at large needs to find the smell intolerable and we are not there yet. They say that a sign of insanity is when one keeps repeating the same act but expecting a different outcome.
From: United States
Surely there are more than enough U.S. Military Retirees who are native to the Dominican Republic and have proved themselves through decades of honorable service to fill government posts. Hiring a convicted deportee is asking for trouble.
U.S. Military Retirees make way more than enough to live comfortably in the D.R. and wouldn't risk their pensions for bribes.
Written by: jonbonz, 7 Jan 2010 3:43 PM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
As a non native US Military retiree I can say that the money is enough to live but if you have the entitlement gene it is still goignto take over. BTW to loose my pension I would have to be basically found guilty in a US court!!!
BTW way I have spent 3 1/2 years out of the last 4 1/2 in Afghanistan Because my pension did not give me as much as I want.
Written by: juanb, 7 Jan 2010 4:01 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Here's another beauty from el jefe:
President presents Quality Bill
President Leonel Fernandez has sent a bill to Congress proposing the creation of the Dominican Quality System (SIDOCAL). The bill sets the basis for the establishment of quality systems that are in line with international quality standards, essential for the export of goods and services. The bill establishes institutions outside of government that would be in charge of determining quality standards in local production of goods and services.
Puhhhhleeeeeeeese
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
I really do not know what is wrong with you juanb This is essential legislation and should have been in place years ago ,,,nearly every country has a quality standards board ,,it is very important when we are competing ,for example , in the fresh fruit market and our produce is exported looking dirty and has to sell against clean products . We should also have a standards board for the construction industry . The biggest problem is that it adds to the size of the bureaucracy .
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
"The bill establishes institutions outside of government that would be in charge of determining quality standards in local production of goods and services. " Why not let the government be responsible.
How much will it cost the Dominican Republic? Its sounds like some one is setting himself up pretty .
Good work Leo.................. you hose bagg.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Normally a standards board needs to be established and the first thing is that the standards are set and then they are publicised in the various industries and finally they have a compliance section . the cost is normally borne by each industry sector . I can see that this established practice in other countries is not well known or appreciated by DT writers
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
I grew up in the food business, I know about quality control. The Dominican Republic doesn't have any. Industry standards are great. It allows everthing to run smoothly and efficiently. The problem is Leo. Everything he says and do you have to take with a grain of salt.
Leo Fux you and throws sand in between for good measure.
Why would DR want anyone else other than the government to supervise the quality of food it EXPORTS and the public consumes. Its like our good old FDA of the US. It picks and chooses what is right for consumption by what company and who has the deepest pockets. The FDA attitude when people get sick of what was given the approval is " Oh well we didn't do enough research, we'll take it of the shelf"
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Well, we disagree .
From: Canada
Ricardolito, I agree with you that these boards are necessary. The problem is that it will be one more botella to fill without achieving the goals. Remember, if all the laws and institutions that we have worked as intended, we would not have the mess that we face. We need outside supervision and a professional public service not subject to political interference. Competing internationally will not be easy with the incompetent people that we have in place. I once tried to get information from the DR embassy here in Canada and couldn't get a straight answer and finally gave up. I could only imagine the lost opportunities for the country because of similar reasons. The EU is an example of what I am talking about when I refer to outside supervision. When some of the weaker countries that have joined the EU don't perform according to the rules that they signed onto, Brussels sends in the experts to force them to comply or else.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
TrinitarioP I agree with your last posting from start to finish ..you live in a wonderful country that has a Westminster system of government and a very honest and respected civil service ,,Before moving here to live in the DR , I also lived in a commonwealth country which like Canada had a wonderful civil service and it is chaos here ...but I have always put it down to lack of funds to pay civil servants ,including the police a proper wage and an unfortunate legacy from the past colonial rulers .
In most commonwealth countries , the minister in charge of this scandal would have resigned immediately because there are proper parliamentary standards and traditions
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 5:31 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Was Figueroa the big fish?
In today's Listin Diario editorial, the writer wonders what could have happened at the National Drug Control Department (DNCD) that led to the replacement of former head Major General Rafael Radhames Ramirez Ferreiras. On 18 August, Ramirez was replaced and sent to direct the Armed Forces medical health plan (ARSFFAA). Ramirez had multiple arrests and drug confiscations to his credit.
Listin Diario recalls that in June 2008, Ramirez declared that all was set for announcing the arrest of a "big fish" with more money and power than Quirino Ernesto Paulino, who was extradited to the US. Ramirez had described the man as someone "with very good ties with politicians and military figures." At the time, he said that the details of the case would be made public in one or two weeks, but he was replaced two months later and the identity of the "big fish" was never revealed.
Continued:
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 5:35 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Listin Diario speculates that it is interesting that a year and three months on, the country has learned about the sheer scale of Puerto Rican drug baron Jose Figueroa Agosto's drug business in the DR. The newspaper editorial says it is pertinent to establish whether Ramirez was indeed referring to Figueroa Agosto, and who his accomplices were, and if that is so, what happened there. "Who put a hold on justice and other instances so that the case did not reach the courts and so that the case would not be made public as Ramirez had promised"?
Source DR1
Yes LIE-onel Fernandez answer WHO?
Or maybe you can delegate that responsibilty to your apologist par excellence, Martha!
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
This is what I'm talking about, we shouldn't have to seek outside help. There is no reason to be told by others, when our president has the experience of living abroad like most of us posting on DT. The Dominican public counted on that, his knowledge of what goes on in other parts of the World was the key for winning the election.
Leo doubled crossed the public. He had a great opportunity to re-create a country, now what he is doing is making a mockery of us all.
Thats why Leo you would always be the number ONE acehole of DR.
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 5:54 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Bobby JOE,
Excellent comment my brother!
From: United States
I'll second that Roberto. I do like Bobby Joe. I will paraphrase and give credit to josean.
Excellent comment my brother!
Written by: danny00, 7 Jan 2010 6:27 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
Trinitarioplusone, GOOD THOUGHTS...... this pres. really has his hands full each day bet u he does not know which way to turn most of the time....., im not standing with him.... in fact i also wish 4 a new pres....
the big PROBLEM is will the next guy in line do worst?......
cant see it getting any better for a while i would say like maybe in about 100years from now..
sick that i have to say this but the future does not look very kind at this time.
Written by: danny00, 7 Jan 2010 6:30 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
freeport l.i. is the capt lou fishing boats still their?.. used to like to fish and eat at the seafood places along the water fron.
must be really chilly over their now.
but at least u have lights every day.
Written by: xwill7, 7 Jan 2010 6:43 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
looks like a concho driver that I know
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
There was absolutely no speculation in the article you quote that the President was the big fish that Ramirez talked about ..as you correctly point out Ramirez was hardly a decent person and for all we know there may never have been a big fish ...Your hatred of the President clouds everything you write .
This article is all about how a disgraced soldier could find a job in the Palace and as yet neither you or anyone else here or the government can give any sort of answer ..if the President was involved in it .I will also say he must step down .
From: Canada
Assuming that the president was involved, do you think that would ever be revealed? Not in this country.
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 7:00 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
I don't hate anyone, but I do despise.
Written by: josean, 7 Jan 2010 7:04 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"if the President was involved in it .I will also say he must step down ."
Martha is starting to hedge her bet!
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
In answer to your question Trinitario ...I would say it is almost impossible that the President could have been involved in any drug business without a whistle blower coming forward already ..too many heads have rolled without a single murmer in that direction (except for Josean) .
I personally think that the President has not given the drug and corruption problems the time and effort they merit nor has he implemented his zero tolerance with much force...But it has been pointed out here before that the problems infiltrate all levels and I imagine that at times he must wonder just whom he can trust and who has a totally clean slate .
The tragedy is that, so many good things are now being overshadowed such as the announcement today to buy modern equipment for the cancer hospital
Written by: juanb, 7 Jan 2010 7:20 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The points that I were making were that A) here goes LF again trying to take the spotlight off the rampant corruption that he has allowed to grow out of control. And that B) he is promoting another do nothing commission to study something that the rest of the world seems to do automatically, namely to try to make things as good as is possible, not just enough to scrape by.
From: Canada
The reality is that even if he was sweaky clean and wanted to clean house, he would be assasinated. Too much money is at stake. Too many people are getting rich and powerful in the middle of this mess. The corrupt oligarchy would never permit a thorough house cleaning. He is in power at their "whim and pleasure" as they say.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Perhaps you are correct but Leonel already has dismissed some very powerful people in the police,in the Drug squad and in the Electricity Industry when it was necessary ..but I am sure he is aware off his personal security if he really gets involved ...that is why it is good to have an independent commission of clean guys to make all the recommendations
From: United States, new england
this guy is mad ugly
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Ricardo,
You are beginning to see the light but not nearly bright enough.
LF and his administration are corrupt and should be impeached.
I don't need any more proof. He gets credit for all of the good things that happen in his administration, and same should be applicable to the bad.
To deny his knowledge and involvement is to deny deny Dominican history.
I don't like this guy. Never have and never will. He is a rat and a smelly rat. He is taking the Dominican populace for a rough and bad ride. Perhaps some day he will pay for it.
As for the corrupt military and police, I am glad those Malecon lamp post are still standing. Perhaps some day we will put them to good use. I hope so. There shall be an inevitable day of reckoning. Yes, there shall be one.
We've been lied to and abused for far too long, and we just can't take it any more. The chips are falling into place, and soon we should converge to point of no return and the masses will be empowered.
MJE
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
To anyone in forum who might know: what were Mr. Savinon's qualifications for rank of Major, to operate at national palace?
Written by: ggmoya, 8 Jan 2010 3:39 AM
From: United States, New York
lie-onel. lol
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
glomarE all you have said about Leonel is only based on a gut feeling ..I do not know if you are right or wrong about him . I try not to comment about people but stick to policies and actions and ,as you know, I think the economy has performed well here with good policies ,
I agree that he should be admonished for bad things though he does not get sufficient recognition for good things and yes, I am sure the appalling culture of self interest is thriving here still. Leonel is probably no different than Presidents before him but at least he has got this country moving.
I have written elsewhere that a total overhaul of government administration is needed .
Written by: eagleye, 8 Jan 2010 7:55 AM
From: United States
the people being arrested like ivano is just a scapegoat . everyone in the dr has a gun and everyone in the dr has an id that says they are police, military or dni. find out who killed gonzalez and stop waisting time with the kids making money from the drug dealer.those kids are just triing to make a few bucks. the real crime here is the murder of gonzalez. who did it . we know ivano didnt have anything to do with it. theres something wrong here. arrest some uniforms. that would really show us that progress is here. im watching this and i dont like it. this guy looks too stupid to know anything. and too much talk and no real results. open up a police line that lets people call in and contribute to this investigation. i believe that this would help. advertise it and you will get the answers you need. these people cant keep there mouths shut. i wish i was working this case. but im american. STOP LOOKING WHERE THE MONEY WENT AND START LOOKING WHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM. GOD BLESS AMERICA
From: Dominican Republic
Generoso, and Josean for once I agree with you. You know what's worst?. the lack of accountability from the Dominican people, the media, the social institutions of DR, are just spectators in the sidelines, nobody demands justice, it's like nobody cares if at the end somebody goes to the slammer. you know why? Because, everyone knows, at the end. it will all settle down this ex-colonel will end up in the border, the other officer will end up serving 3 month of jail, Mary Pelae will be out of jail in 2 month and continue to have sex with high ranking generals (THERE ARE MILLIONS OF THEN IN THE DR, MORE THAN CHINA'S 11 MILLION MEN ARMY). The other guy will end up in some villa in punta cana the money they took from the Boricua will end up in some DNCD's director, the lower ranking officers and Figueroa's hench men will get a slap in the wrist and people will end up asking if they are going lower the prices of Cerveza Grande, Brugal, Motels and complain about colmadones early curfew
From: Dominican Republic
ta-daaaaaaa!!!!!
Written by: generoso, 8 Jan 2010 9:52 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Platanos_pelaos
What it looked like it was an undercover sting operation to expose people connected with drug money laundering and drugs trade, turned out to be a pandora's box, of never ending graft and corruption perps, that went straight to the top bosses, both civilian and military.
My assumption is that IF the US investigators expose everybody that they know for sure is on the take, and heavily involved, then there would be a governmental and military shake up of such great magnitude, that would risk the country falling into ungovernability.
I am speculating that the persons behind this sting operation, had no idea and are awed and amazed at the degree of involvement of the many guilty parties, and at the connection of the dots to the top echelons.
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Gen,
Thats is the American way......... I'm sure that they didn't realize the magnitude of officials involved. Perhaps if this came to a boil a lot sooner Leo would have never been able to borrow so much money from the international community. DR is in jeopardy at the moment, with so much liability the president wouldn't be able to consummate a mortgage. But , then again I now some people at DA BADA BING that will lend to a scumbag trader of the Dominican community.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
The last sentence is correct without much doubt and it is now a wonderful opportunity to clean out the administration and if it is ,indeed, so large that we have to ask for temporary UN assistance in the administration of the country then so be it ...you are all crying out for a clean out here so bring it on and start afresh with a better culture of transparency and honesty ..they did that in Chile and is happening in Peru .
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Richy,
Thats not a bad Idea,
DT,
Check this out:....... The U.N's Particular attention is given to strengthening governance systems and institutions, administrative restructuring, civil service reform, human resources development and public administration training, improving performance of the public sector, increasing public- and private-sector interaction, promoting management innovation, improving the management of development programmes, enhancing government legal capacity, and strengthening the regulatory framework, resource mobilization, revenue administration, financial management, and transparency and accountability through the provision of advisory services, technical assistance and human resources devlopment.
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2010 12:00 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"The tragedy is that, so many good things are now being overshadowed such as the announcement today to buy modern equipment for the cancer hospital "
Yeah via another JUICY loan!
From: United States
all the problems in governance surely cannot be attributed to Leonel. it would be an absurdity to believe this . but the critical ingredient is TONE. THE LEADER SETS THE RULES. these daily scandals eventuate because the bureaucrats , militarios, and security forces are completely aware of Leonel´s indifference to malfeasance. i bet you dollars to donuts that no official in the Cuban government would dare try to sneak some of this behavior under Castro´s nose. no guy would dare hire his drug dealing drinking buddy to a sensitive post, because Fidel would have both their heads. Leo is soft on corruption, and this is what sets the TONE. he is the greatest three card monte artist that operates in current world politics, and is disgraceful, in that one would think that he should know better.
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2010 12:09 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Look how good THIRD GRADERS write now a days!
"Perhaps you are correct but Leonel already has dismissed some very powerful people in the police,in the Drug squad and in the Electricity Industry when it was necessary ..but I am sure he is aware off his personal security if he really gets involved ...that is why it is good to have an independent commission of clean guys to make all the recommendations"
I this wasn't so sad it would be funny!
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2010 12:19 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"I try not to comment about people but stick to policies and actions and ,as you know, I think the economy has performed well here with good policies ,"
Another "GEM" from Martha!
As if polices fall out of thin air.
If the policies are bad, they are bad because the policies in and of themselves are bad, not those that created them. But if the policies are good it’s due to the BRILLANCY of those that created them.
Take about denial of responsibility, this is incredible!
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2010 12:25 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Almost Mangu,
To agree with the Professor can be rewarding; on the other hand to agree with me may be dangerous to your health.
But thank you my brother.
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2010 12:27 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"he is the greatest three card monte artist that operates in current world politics"
Dread,
Another one for the mantle place!
From: United States
why, thank you, sir.
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2010 4:51 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Deportee on Presidency payroll
Former Army major Bienvenido Antonio Savinon Aybar, in whose name the license plate of the SUV from which the shots were fired to kill former Police colonel Jose Amado Gonzalez Gonzalez was registered, was on the Presidency payroll for "intelligence" operations, as reported in El Dia. He received a separate check, known as "specialization" for additional services.
Administrative Secretary of the Presidency Luis Manuel Bonetti said that the former major has now been removed from the payroll. He said that the Army did not inform his department that Savinon had been removed from the force. Savinon was dismissed after he was deported from the United States for drug trafficking. Bonetti confirmed that Savinon received a check for RD$7,000 to RD$10,000 a month, in addition to his normal wage, according to Listin Diario.
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Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2010 4:54 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Diario Libre reports that he was dismissed from his job at the Presidency department as a member of the National Department of Investigations last week.
Bonetti said he was not aware how long Savinon Aybar had been on the Presidency payroll.
Source DR1
LIE-onel Fernandez the plausible deniability is starting to run out!
From: United States, NY/NJ
Noone knows "dique", what happens is one of his buddy got him the job since he works at the palace at told him to keep quiet about certain things and he'd be fine. Had this incident not blown up he would've been working there like nothing is wrong in the world and that he's the man. Talk about instability this is shaking the very foundations of the government. The love of money has corrupted our people to a sad extent. People need to stop loving money and realize that it is only a tool to use in order to get things done. This corruption in the very fabric of our society as dominicans is in essence the very plot to keep us pinned down and not progress as a nation. Those with the real power and money will continue this tactic because it is soo successful. learn to live comfortably but without such an exaggeration of luxuries because in the end all that'll be left are the results of your choices before God. This is part of the agenda and plot we are already buried in IMF debt.
Written by: josean, 8 Jan 2010 6:43 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Josean ,,you find it impossible to talk about a subject at any time in a correct manner with any one who has different views than you ..what kind of intelligence is that and it only belittles you ..maybe you think your pathetic personal attacks are a substitute for a proper discussion but mercifully you are totally different to any of my Dominican friends or acquaintances who conduct themselves with more courtesy and education
Written by: josean, 9 Jan 2010 11:35 AM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
As Jack Nicholson said “You just can't handle the truth!”
I am not here to have polite debate following Roberts’s Rules, while Dominicans are dieing and suffering while we are being run by NARCOS and corrupt politicians!
So excuse me if I am not into tea and crumpets at 4!
Written by: josean, 9 Jan 2010 11:36 AM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
PS
If the attacks are “pathetic” why the compelling OBSSESION to respond!
From: United States
a little proverb to Ricardolito.¨he who condones evil, commands it to be done¨. i intended that for prez, but maybe it applies to you, too.
Written by: ggmoya, 9 Jan 2010 6:01 PM
From: United States, New York
callense toditos!!!!!!
Written by: josean, 9 Jan 2010 6:24 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Another ex-member of our fine paramilitary establishment moonlighting to supplement his income:
Publicada el: 09 de Enero del 2010, 08:32:27 am
Apresan ex teniente PN con 30 libras de marihuana
Enviar a un AmigoJimani, RD.- Unas 30 libras supuestamente de marihuana fueron incautadas a un ex teniente de la Policía al ser revisado su vehículo en el chequeo militar de Duvergé. La Policía identificó al ex segundo teniente como Manuel Novas y Novas, quien reside en el barrio San Carlos en Santo Domingo.
El ex policía fue identificado como Manuel Novas Novas, apodado El Cacha, quien viajaba en un automóvil Honda placa A423073 acompañado de las nombradas Ana Elpidia Lebrón Trinidad y Wendy Elizabeth Heredia Medina, ambas residentes en Jimaní y quienes fueron enviados a la División Sur de la Dirección Nacional de Control de Drogas (DNCD).
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Written by: josean, 9 Jan 2010 6:26 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
El informe de la Policía indica que Novas y Novas y las dos mujeres viajaban en el carro marca Honda, color verde placa A423073. Indica que al requisar el vehiculo en el chequeo de Las Baitoa de Duvergé, en el baúl se encontraron tres paquetes de aproximadamente 30 libras supuestamente de marihuana. Fuente Teuddy A. Sanchez
However, according to Martha everything is just PEACHY in NARCOLANDIA!
http://www.lanaciondominicana.com....cia=14789&sesion_periodico=30Written by: ggmoya, 9 Jan 2010 6:32 PM
From: United States, New York
Busted! For some strange reason weed is seen as worse than crack and crystal meth in Dominican Republic so he's done. Thirty pounds is A LOT OF HERB!!! I wonder what kind of weed it is, Purple Haze it isn't. It's probably dirt weed and for that they should make it 15 pounds instead of 30. LOLZ
Written by: josean, 10 Jan 2010 11:17 AM
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Scrambling and DR government damage control is happening as we speak= Population and spectator eyes from the US are awaiting, jail, sanctions, arrests of big wheels= So far NADA.
Maybe they are waiting to wake up from this PR nightmare and everything to go away and vanish.
One more clue, Figueroa Agosto's handlers were changed after a new MO, faces and policies of spook supervisors occurred a few months after Obama took office.
It is all entertainment, folks.
Had he been a kingpin, he would have had a higher ranking post and earned much more.
I BEG TO DIFFER " the incompetance'" IS THE SEAT OF POWER AND IT HAS A FIRST AND LAST NAME ---------- LIE-onel FERNANDEZ!
What is OBVIOUS is that the DR needs a new president immediately!
"forced to fire the ex Army Major who has been linked to the murder"
When should anyone need to be 'forced' to fire someone who had this kind of background?
Dominicans must be so proud of their ‘leaders’. These are the people running the country. Either way, they are morons and they have no integrity.
They need to ALL be fired.
He is supposed to lead by example, but he does nothing.
If he did not know this man was in HIS service he is a flaming moron.
If he did know then he is complicit and should be tried as a traitor to the Dominican Republic and hanged.
80% of HIS people are poor and he has done NOTHING to help.
And any fool out there that says he handed out food baskets for Christmas is just that, a fool.
Normal I would agree with you that it would be unjust to blame one human being for every negative action that occurs in a government when you have solid democratic institutions with oversight and checks and balances.
However, in DR we have a dictatorship masquerading as a DEMOCRACY which gives the president extraordinary powers and resources. LIE-onel Fernandez was supposed to move us away from the this traditional Caudillismo/Trujillismo, but he has done the total opposite and has even expanded it in HIS new constitution.
During the last election he refused to have public one on one debates with the other presidential contenders, because none of them could "conceptualize like him." In fact Danilo Medina his former right-hand man accused him of use the resources of the state like never before to both beat him in the primary and the to win the general election.
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LIE-onel Fernandez is a slick as the come he has developed the Boy Scout image insulated by the Teflon of his apologist in the media, government, the PLD and here on DT.
He has people believing he is the greatest president we have ever had and has brought the most progress to the nation, so if he is so great and has so much power how can he not at least know what’s happening, if not DIRECTLY involved.
That Dog wouldn’t hunt my friend!
This guy is Noriega 2.0!
No need to apologize my friend but I do thank you for your comment. Believe it or nit it means a lot to me when I am able to humbly share a little light to any other human being.
Hang in theis nightmare, like Trujillos 31 years to shall pass and the Dominican Republic will be a just society for ALL its people.
There are not enough hours in the day to deal with all of our problems. There are, however, enough hours in the day to deal with a couple of them. If LF were interested in anything other than promoting himself as a world class diplomat, he would take some time from sticking his nose in other country's business, spend a little less time showing up at the in vogue funeral, waste a little less time with his cumbres, commissions, and meetings which are only for show and he would take all that time and try to address AND SOLVE one problem per day: Instead of his pronouncements of "zero tolerance" for dishonesty in government he would actually cause the agency charged with this responsibility to do its job. Don't just talk about a problem, do something.
When there are problems at a big company, the head of the company must make the tough decisions to affect change, not just have his picture taken giving a watch to a retiring employee.
Remember: The fish stinks from the head.
1. Socialism
2. Socialism
3. Socialism
Solve the education problem, by finding the money you promise to invest in it, every year.
Figure out how to pay our Military and our Police a decent wage.
Investigate the source of wealth of the politicians.
Find out which of our judges are corrupt, AND GET THEM PUNISHED
Stop lieing to us about the economic situation. If you believe what you tell us you are more out of touch with reality than we realized.
Cut government costs instead of constantly putting the country deeper in debt.
Take Sunday off. If you actually start getting some of these problems solved, get back to me, I have another load.
I doubt if anything will change after the next Presidential election nor is there any will for a change in either party or in the administration.
However at this stage we do not know where this scandal will lead to ..if the President is at all involved with this business then he should resign ..but as is more likely it should be the people who are responsible for the employment of Saviñon who should be dismissed .
The main tragedy here is that it is so hard to change the general culture of any administration no matter who is in power ..maybe the newly elected Dominican mayor in the USA is the sort of person needed
In the US now there is a big amount of problems with the economy and such. All is needed is an excuse to find a winable little war for political pourposes.
Narco Terrorism is identified as a threat there.
U.S. Military Retirees make way more than enough to live comfortably in the D.R. and wouldn't risk their pensions for bribes.
BTW way I have spent 3 1/2 years out of the last 4 1/2 in Afghanistan Because my pension did not give me as much as I want.
President presents Quality Bill
President Leonel Fernandez has sent a bill to Congress proposing the creation of the Dominican Quality System (SIDOCAL). The bill sets the basis for the establishment of quality systems that are in line with international quality standards, essential for the export of goods and services. The bill establishes institutions outside of government that would be in charge of determining quality standards in local production of goods and services.
Puhhhhleeeeeeeese
"The bill establishes institutions outside of government that would be in charge of determining quality standards in local production of goods and services. " Why not let the government be responsible.
How much will it cost the Dominican Republic? Its sounds like some one is setting himself up pretty .
Good work Leo.................. you hose bagg.
Leo Fux you and throws sand in between for good measure.
Why would DR want anyone else other than the government to supervise the quality of food it EXPORTS and the public consumes. Its like our good old FDA of the US. It picks and chooses what is right for consumption by what company and who has the deepest pockets. The FDA attitude when people get sick of what was given the approval is " Oh well we didn't do enough research, we'll take it of the shelf"
In most commonwealth countries , the minister in charge of this scandal would have resigned immediately because there are proper parliamentary standards and traditions
In today's Listin Diario editorial, the writer wonders what could have happened at the National Drug Control Department (DNCD) that led to the replacement of former head Major General Rafael Radhames Ramirez Ferreiras. On 18 August, Ramirez was replaced and sent to direct the Armed Forces medical health plan (ARSFFAA). Ramirez had multiple arrests and drug confiscations to his credit.
Listin Diario recalls that in June 2008, Ramirez declared that all was set for announcing the arrest of a "big fish" with more money and power than Quirino Ernesto Paulino, who was extradited to the US. Ramirez had described the man as someone "with very good ties with politicians and military figures." At the time, he said that the details of the case would be made public in one or two weeks, but he was replaced two months later and the identity of the "big fish" was never revealed.
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Source DR1
Yes LIE-onel Fernandez answer WHO?
Or maybe you can delegate that responsibilty to your apologist par excellence, Martha!
Leo doubled crossed the public. He had a great opportunity to re-create a country, now what he is doing is making a mockery of us all.
Thats why Leo you would always be the number ONE acehole of DR.
Excellent comment my brother!
I'll second that Roberto. I do like Bobby Joe. I will paraphrase and give credit to josean.
Excellent comment my brother!
Trinitarioplusone, GOOD THOUGHTS...... this pres. really has his hands full each day bet u he does not know which way to turn most of the time....., im not standing with him.... in fact i also wish 4 a new pres....
the big PROBLEM is will the next guy in line do worst?......
cant see it getting any better for a while i would say like maybe in about 100years from now..
sick that i have to say this but the future does not look very kind at this time.
must be really chilly over their now.
but at least u have lights every day.
This article is all about how a disgraced soldier could find a job in the Palace and as yet neither you or anyone else here or the government can give any sort of answer ..if the President was involved in it .I will also say he must step down .
Martha is starting to hedge her bet!
I personally think that the President has not given the drug and corruption problems the time and effort they merit nor has he implemented his zero tolerance with much force...But it has been pointed out here before that the problems infiltrate all levels and I imagine that at times he must wonder just whom he can trust and who has a totally clean slate .
The tragedy is that, so many good things are now being overshadowed such as the announcement today to buy modern equipment for the cancer hospital
You are beginning to see the light but not nearly bright enough.
LF and his administration are corrupt and should be impeached.
I don't need any more proof. He gets credit for all of the good things that happen in his administration, and same should be applicable to the bad.
To deny his knowledge and involvement is to deny deny Dominican history.
I don't like this guy. Never have and never will. He is a rat and a smelly rat. He is taking the Dominican populace for a rough and bad ride. Perhaps some day he will pay for it.
As for the corrupt military and police, I am glad those Malecon lamp post are still standing. Perhaps some day we will put them to good use. I hope so. There shall be an inevitable day of reckoning. Yes, there shall be one.
We've been lied to and abused for far too long, and we just can't take it any more. The chips are falling into place, and soon we should converge to point of no return and the masses will be empowered.
MJE
To anyone in forum who might know: what were Mr. Savinon's qualifications for rank of Major, to operate at national palace?
I agree that he should be admonished for bad things though he does not get sufficient recognition for good things and yes, I am sure the appalling culture of self interest is thriving here still. Leonel is probably no different than Presidents before him but at least he has got this country moving.
I have written elsewhere that a total overhaul of government administration is needed .
What it looked like it was an undercover sting operation to expose people connected with drug money laundering and drugs trade, turned out to be a pandora's box, of never ending graft and corruption perps, that went straight to the top bosses, both civilian and military.
My assumption is that IF the US investigators expose everybody that they know for sure is on the take, and heavily involved, then there would be a governmental and military shake up of such great magnitude, that would risk the country falling into ungovernability.
I am speculating that the persons behind this sting operation, had no idea and are awed and amazed at the degree of involvement of the many guilty parties, and at the connection of the dots to the top echelons.
Thats is the American way......... I'm sure that they didn't realize the magnitude of officials involved. Perhaps if this came to a boil a lot sooner Leo would have never been able to borrow so much money from the international community. DR is in jeopardy at the moment, with so much liability the president wouldn't be able to consummate a mortgage. But , then again I now some people at DA BADA BING that will lend to a scumbag trader of the Dominican community.
Thats not a bad Idea,
DT,
Check this out:....... The U.N's Particular attention is given to strengthening governance systems and institutions, administrative restructuring, civil service reform, human resources development and public administration training, improving performance of the public sector, increasing public- and private-sector interaction, promoting management innovation, improving the management of development programmes, enhancing government legal capacity, and strengthening the regulatory framework, resource mobilization, revenue administration, financial management, and transparency and accountability through the provision of advisory services, technical assistance and human resources devlopment.
Yeah via another JUICY loan!
"Perhaps you are correct but Leonel already has dismissed some very powerful people in the police,in the Drug squad and in the Electricity Industry when it was necessary ..but I am sure he is aware off his personal security if he really gets involved ...that is why it is good to have an independent commission of clean guys to make all the recommendations"
I this wasn't so sad it would be funny!
Another "GEM" from Martha!
As if polices fall out of thin air.
If the policies are bad, they are bad because the policies in and of themselves are bad, not those that created them. But if the policies are good it’s due to the BRILLANCY of those that created them.
Take about denial of responsibility, this is incredible!
To agree with the Professor can be rewarding; on the other hand to agree with me may be dangerous to your health.
But thank you my brother.
Dread,
Another one for the mantle place!
Former Army major Bienvenido Antonio Savinon Aybar, in whose name the license plate of the SUV from which the shots were fired to kill former Police colonel Jose Amado Gonzalez Gonzalez was registered, was on the Presidency payroll for "intelligence" operations, as reported in El Dia. He received a separate check, known as "specialization" for additional services.
Administrative Secretary of the Presidency Luis Manuel Bonetti said that the former major has now been removed from the payroll. He said that the Army did not inform his department that Savinon had been removed from the force. Savinon was dismissed after he was deported from the United States for drug trafficking. Bonetti confirmed that Savinon received a check for RD$7,000 to RD$10,000 a month, in addition to his normal wage, according to Listin Diario.
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Bonetti said he was not aware how long Savinon Aybar had been on the Presidency payroll.
Source DR1
LIE-onel Fernandez the plausible deniability is starting to run out!
8 Enero 2010, 12:22 AM
Obispo se queja de que medios solo publican cosas negativas
Its always the medias fault!
http://www.hoy.com.do/el-pais/201....ios-solo-publican-cosas-negativas
I am not here to have polite debate following Roberts’s Rules, while Dominicans are dieing and suffering while we are being run by NARCOS and corrupt politicians!
So excuse me if I am not into tea and crumpets at 4!
If the attacks are “pathetic” why the compelling OBSSESION to respond!
Publicada el: 09 de Enero del 2010, 08:32:27 am
Apresan ex teniente PN con 30 libras de marihuana
Enviar a un AmigoJimani, RD.- Unas 30 libras supuestamente de marihuana fueron incautadas a un ex teniente de la Policía al ser revisado su vehículo en el chequeo militar de Duvergé. La Policía identificó al ex segundo teniente como Manuel Novas y Novas, quien reside en el barrio San Carlos en Santo Domingo.
El ex policía fue identificado como Manuel Novas Novas, apodado El Cacha, quien viajaba en un automóvil Honda placa A423073 acompañado de las nombradas Ana Elpidia Lebrón Trinidad y Wendy Elizabeth Heredia Medina, ambas residentes en Jimaní y quienes fueron enviados a la División Sur de la Dirección Nacional de Control de Drogas (DNCD).
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However, according to Martha everything is just PEACHY in NARCOLANDIA!
http://www.lanaciondominicana.com....cia=14789&sesion_periodico=30
Who is the BIG MANGO?
http://www.listin.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=127582
Go to galleria de Imágenes to see some interesting photos!
http://www.listin.com.do/app/frontpage.aspx
Watch this!
http://www.noticiassin.com/www/?g...._article&aid=12069&tid=20