This is a great service that these patients normally would not recieve.

This is a great service that these patients normally would not recieve.

Very much needed here = case in point the brain damaged leonelly President of our failed nation

Shit! I have already seen this pic on the web, but it is a pitty it has to show only black folks. Well, I must admit that DominicanToday is very gutsy to show that kind of pic from the Eastern side. This is what people like me are fighting for. We can't accept to see our countrymen and fellow islanders in those conditions. Should we start a shooting war in order to change things for the better?

So students are coming to the gerbil cage with their own blogger in tow, not doctors.
Bet they have fun.

Ah but the METROs are a priority, right LIEonel Fernandez!

Nice to see actions like this taking place now I would just wish more Dominican become voluntary for our own country.

I would to know what Juan Bosch would think about Leonel?

I had so much higher expectation of Leonel in 1996 but today I just can't find enough reason to not wanting to have a magic stick to fast forward to 2012.

LION=NEL is not Jesus !
How can he reverse years of neglect by other leaders ?
By the way ,vitamin D has been proven to cure depression which makes us post evasive, eluded erratic rants.
Would you like to give up prozac and lithium ?
They do not seem to help your with your deeply pessimistic feeling about our pragmatic and progressive leader DR. LION -NEL FERNANDEZ
Epa'lante que vamos

Etiennc01
How can he reverse years of neglect by other leaders ?

Easily all you have to do is put the laws in place and make sure they apply to ALL including friends and folks.Something Juan Bosch did in his short time in power.Honesty would be another department that he can work on.What kind of message do you think you are sending to the general public when people who commit crimes like stealing public money get a pardon by Mr. Lionel Fernandez, You when Bosch was put in that same position with one of his best friend all he said was is the prove that he committed the crime is there then he must go because nobody was above rule of the law and he did follow up on his promise and fired one of his best friend. Actions like that bring trust back to any president from the people. Trust me we do have enough jail for politicians and if we don't I'm sure most of us here would pitch in to build one to put them in. At least I would.

Belly ,
I have to commend you for the civility, the alacrity and respect that you have demonstrated in debating this question.(something that is ajena aqui en DT )
May I l refer you to the studies made by Ted Bradshaw of Utah.
He suggests that the causes of poverty are culminative (years in the making)
Those who seek single factor approaches by placing the responsability on one leader's lap are being unfair and misguided.
Kennedy understood this and peached "AsK what you can do for your country and if I must add for other countries (Peace Corps).
What about helping just one Domincan child,
Obama in the same line preached community services
What about helping one Dominican child those of us who are lucky to have everything in abundance in the United States
Th US medical students teach us one lesson,
Stop sitting on our derriere and blame Leonel at each corner for not being able to cure all the ills in the country.

etiennc01,

The BUCK/ PESO stops every where but on LIE-onel Fernandez's TEFLON desk!

The guy has had three bites at the apple of power; his supporters have claimed him to be the messiah that could move the country forward, yet he has FAILED to solve one significant problem, but we can't hold him responsible, give me a break!

He can’t even get people to ride the dam METRO with a subsidized fare.

THE guy is an utterly, miserable and corrupt failure. The sooner people realize that, the sooner our country can in fact move forward!

Rather than defend him and show an alleged incensed attitude because me and others rake him over the coals, please show that same incensed attitude at the destruction of the Dominican society and its future that he is presiding over!

The people are beginning to wake up and the nice little campaign jingles like “Eh Pa’Lante Que Vamos” don’t do it for them anymore.

Continued;

Its more like “Where’s the BEEF LIE-onel Fernandez”; Where is The Educational BEEF, The Electricity BEEF, The Health Care BEEF, The Reduced Crime BEEF!

etiennc01,

The problem of poverty in DR is not because people don't want to get out of it is because the government has policies in place today that make people think that right is wrong and wrong is right attitude.i.e. You see a thief who stole a t.v. and he may get up 6 months in jail and then you see politicians who has stolen up RD$20 Million pesos and Leonel even knowing and looking at the number and seeing the money is missing still goes around in circle to start another investigation and then another investigation and once he has no way out of putting his buddy through the justice system then he goes ahead and uses his pardon pen to get him or her out of jail. What kind of attitude is that from a president who has said "zero tolerance against corruption". How do you break the circle of corruption when kids read stuff like this everyday in just about every newspaper in the country.

etiennc01,

I have said it here many time that the people need to stop waiting for the government to bail them out. I'm a big believer in self responsibility but we got to stop applying first world country solutions to this third world country of ours. When I see the news that they wasted RD$1 billion renovating the Palacio de bellas arte and then I go to pedernales where schools have to close when it rains because there is holes in the zinc and don't want kids to get wet while writing in the BASIC education class. He knows all this projects are happening and he does nothing to stop it which we all know he has the power as the president to stop ANY project according to the laws.

Belly,

OUTSTANDING Points!

Belly,

You’re batting a 1000% and spring training hasn't even begun my brother!

Josean

Thank you.

As I said before is only for so long that Leonel can dance around the bushes before everybody figure the guy out. I can point out 100s of example where he could have done the right thing because is the right thing to do.I'm glad that in SFM all the school are in good shape but this same situation has to translate for the whole country above all other projects because education is the fastest way out of poverty. We all know this.

"above all other projects because education is the fastest way out of poverty.'

Belly you got my vote for MVP with the statement above!

If people understood this and demand it, we Dominicans would be light years ahead towards TRUE sustainable progress!

Josean

If people understood this and demand it, we Dominicans would be light years ahead towards TRUE sustainable progress!

The thing that people should do is go around the country and look at the conditions of the schools and then go and then look at the numbers of the poverty rate in those areas and they will easily prove to themselves that the areas where school are in good working conditions happen to be the areas where poverty is lower is that simple to prove it.

Your right Belly!

And especially being from Huston pardon the pun, it’s not rocket science it’s just commonsense!

etiennec,
LION=NEL is not Jesus !
How can he reverse years of neglect by other leaders ?

That is what I have been saying for so long.
I am not a political savvy person but absolutely anyone could observe what is happening in the Dominican society.
I wish one could tell me a president in the last few 100 years who had control the money, power hungry sharks politicians around them.
We are supposed to live in a Democratic Republic, and as such we the population are responsible to accept, bring to power morally ethic individuals to represent the masses.

Nothing gets done until we start teaching our young’s about MORAL ETHICS. WE as A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC HAVE TO ERRADICATE the CORRUPTION FROM OUR GENES! until we as a population do not get together to change the people's mode of thinking and behavior we will not evolucion from the corruption quick sand puddle that DR people are in.
We must raise ethical individuals first, and then expect that from the government.

Any Dominican president’s realm is infected with corrupt individuals, and there are thousands of such individuals waiting in line for a post to open. These individuals are not only in the government realm, but everywhere from a panadero to a concho driver, from a lipiabota to a lawyer.

So it is our, the common people like you and I to influence a young person at a time to become an ethical and moral individual.

A monologue litany of metro complaints does not move a sand pebble.

poponlaburra,

Then why bother to elect a president if he doesn’t have the know how to eradicate the corrupt locust that surrounds him (if that’s a given as you say) or the testicular fortitude to do it?

Your argument is very weak, in that it implies that the presidents are these helpless good guys that get elected but then can’t do anything because the suddenly realize they are working in a cesspool full of parasites. Naive people like that don't get elected president my friend. They are also part of parasitical corrupt class that exist every where in the world. What keeps them in check in some societies as opposed to others is the level of education of the public.

The litany of METRO critiques is just to point out and keep at the forefront the blatant abuse of power and waste of resources and the lack of institutional democracy we suffer from that keeps us in third world status!

The METRO was LIE-onel Fernandez’s Trojan Horse, full of corruption and Narcos!

Con:

Unfortunately many fell for it and continue to see at his contribution to the Dominican Seven Wonders of the world, when in fact it is quite the opposite or as I like to call it a Faro de Colón on Wheels!

Here are other oppions on the state of our society:

SEGURIDAD

Incapacidad de los organismos de seguridad ponen al país al borde del caos, según PC y Finjus

Chamir Isa y Castaños advierten que las fugas de Sobeida y de Figueroa Agosto muestras que no se cumplen las labores de inteligencia

sábado, 9 de enero de 2010, 12:58 p.m.

SANTO DOMINGO, República Dominicana.- El coordinador de Participación Ciudadana, Samir Chami Isa, el vicepresidente ejecutivo de la Fundación Institucionalidad y Justicia (Finjus), Servio Tulio Castaños, advirtieron que el país está al borde de un caos ante la incapacidad de los organismos de inteligencia y de seguridad del Estado.

“Al país hay que darle respuesta de todo lo que está sucediendo, porque de lo contrario nadie va a creer en las autoridades, dijo el representante de Participación Ciudadana”, Chami Isa.

Tanto Chami Isa como Castaños expresaron que el narcotráfico está arropando la sociedad dominicana.

continued:

Ambos expresaron que las fugas de Sobeida Félix Morel y de José Figueroa Agosto es una muestra de que los organismos de inteligencia y de seguridad no están haciendo nada ni están cumpliendo con sus labores de inteligencia.

Dijeron que en ese caso no existe la voluntad por que hay funcionarios involucrados y no quieren que el país sepa cuáles son los altos funcionarios.

Castaños Guzmán y Chami Isa se pronunciaron en esos términos al participar en el programa “Tras las Huella”, que conducen los periodistas José Cuevas y Celina Suriel y que se transmite en vivo de 8:00 a 9:00 de la noche por el canal 24 de Santo Domingo TV por el sistema de cable y 69 UHF.

Puntualizaron que es increíble que las autoridades no tengan la capacidad para vigilar a una persona a la que se le está llevando un proceso judicial como ha sido el caso de Sobeida Félix y José Figueroa Agosto.

continued:

Asimismo, Chami Isa mostró su inconformidad por los indultos otorgados por el presidente Leonel Fernández a dos ciudadanas francesas que cumplían en el país una condena de ocho años por narcotráfico.

“Yo estoy totalmente en desacuerdo con que a una persona acusada de narcotráfico se le otorgue una fianza, mucho menos, se le dé una gracia de un indulto”, agregó el representante de la sociedad civil.


http://www.clavedigital.com/App_P....s/Noticias.aspx?id_Articulo=27162

And hear the very pragmatic commentaries of people on the article above:

(4)

4 - Y Peor aún, el acuerdo con Francia era que ellas pagarían su pena en Francia en lugar de indultarlas. Si a Hipólito lo consideraban un burro, tendré que buscar una categaría por debajo del paramesio para colocar a Leonel.
Luis Garcia


3 - Hace unos días vi que capturaron y extraditaron a un haitiano, igualmente pasa cuando los prófugos son pobres diablos o no están acuñados en el poder. Para el que todavía no ha entendido: Agosto y Sobeina están protegidos y nos tienen embuchados con los casos periféricos de Mary Peláez y ahora el tal Ivanovich Smester. Si asumimos la realidad de que gran parte del país está corrompido ¿Dónde están las acusaciones de los GRANDES, políticos, policías, y empresarios?
Juan Bobo

continued:

2 - LOS DOMINICANOS SERIOS Y RESPONSABLES ESTAMOS ESPERANDO LA REACCION DE LA CUPULA DE MILITARES SERIOS Y COMPROMETIDOS CON LA SANIDAD DE LA PATRIA, PARA QUE HAGAN LO MISMO DE HONDURAS Y SUSTITUYAN Y LLEVEN A NAJAYO A LOS MILITARES Y FUNCIONARIOS ENVUELTOS E INVOLUCRADOS EN NARCOTRAFICO. SABEMOS QUE HAY MILITARES DE ESE CALIBRE PERO NO SE HAN ATREVIDO A EXPRESARLO A SUS COMPAñEROS DE ARMAS POR TEMOR A QUEDARSE SOLOS EN LA IDEA...LA INICIATIVA ES DURA PERO HAGANLO EL PUEBLO ESTARA DETRAS DE UDS..
FRANKLIN PEREZ


1 - creo que los servicios de seguridad estan infestados del narcotrafico si no miren como responden a las emergencias que se dieron con estos narcos,porque se les fue agosto?porque los servicios de inteligencia se lo soplaron$$$$$$$porque sobeida se fue porque slo soplaron$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$asi que estos servicios de inteligencia solo sirven para atropellar a la poblacion pobre de este pais.
el peje

An admirable and commendable act of focused charity, which should greatly benefit the underprivileged and without access to reasonable medical care.

With mostly an agrarian industry [and not a significant one at that], and a population approaching 10M inhabitants, poverty in this century nor next would be eradicated, no matter how educated the population might get. The only way to make substantive progress toward reduction of poverty would be by effecting a paradigm shift and transforming into an industrial and manufacturing center in the mold of Hong Kong, S. Korea or even China. Based on agrarian-based economy, the numbers simply don't add up.

The other industry is tourism. However, must of that money is transacted and stays overseas. Also, that should be a supplemental and not a primary industry, because it is rather elusive and transitional and can shift with the trade winds. Just look at Puerto Plata, as an example.

MJEV.

Continued:

Education without opportunity my not get us much further from our present position. Without growth and development there would be few jobs, and we clearly understand that most good ones would be allocated for privileged class and connected people, no matter their capacity-which would assure continued incompetence.

I further worry about an idle and well-educated populace and the birth of ideologies it would engender. We might just wind up with a bunch of Che Guevara's. Given present situation, perhaps that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. For one thing, he would bring the "paredon", and many important wrongs would be righted, which could be great for the masses, as the Honorable Generoso articulated in another thread.

Don't get me wrong, I am 100 percent for education. I just, unlike several here, do not believe it is the answer to all that ails us. There are many facets to our predicament, and they must all be corrected before progress is made.

MJEV.

What I have been preaching for so long is that we the concerned and intellectual elite of Dominican Today should offer novel ideas and alternativeson how to eradicate poverty in the Dominica Republic
Brain storming instead of the usual useless rantings

What we have witnessed for the past 50 years or so is the inablity of leaders to cope with the poverty nigthmare facing their own individual country.
Whether they call themselves socialists,communists and what have you , a large segment of their people live in shameful misery
They continue to do their magic tricks: demagoguery to distract the people.
What I am proposing here is for us to become social scientists nd diagnose the causes of poverty in the Dominican Republic.
Refraining from blaming, criticizing that often lead to fanatism, distortions and insults
Overpopulation is one of the causes of poverty.
Environmental degradation,
Inadequate education

Legacy of colonalism and slavery.
Legacy of dictatorships (Concentration of wealth and pover)

Suppose that we are social scientists, what do we propose instead of the pompous exhibition of knowledge?

etienne01 you are correct because at present there is no tradition of looking after people less fortunate than oneself and ,for example ,Dominicans pay much less to their employees than do foreigners living here.. I am told that many times . I think the education that is missing here is not so much lessons in maths and history but the education on what is right and what is wrong ,We are fortunate that here in la Romana we have received many new books in the schools to help with the lessons but the salary for teachers is so low ,that the teachers have limited interest or knowledge of teaching except the basic things ,,except in the private schools ,of course .
There is a huge legacy here of years of corruption that has now been made worse because of the large illegal but wealthy drug market .

ETIENNC01

Poverty in DR can only be end by education and entrepreneurship of the people inside the country with the help of us outside.In my case I'm DR a lot of the time yearly and there is a lot of people that are waiting for somebody to lead them and show them the way out but most just don't have the knowledge and resources to do anything. By concentrating in education in DR i must say that not in every department because we are not industrialized in many of them so training people for non-existing jobs in the local market won't be worth nothing. I have said here the careers that people can be train easily and very inexpensive and find local good paying jobs.The problem most school training in DR is only focus professions that over saturated just look around at the degree most politicians hold and you will quickly realize that 98% are only in 3 fields Doctor,Ingeniero y Abogaducho. nothing else.Which all are very expensive to be reach by the avg Dominican.

Dr. Strangelove,

"I just, unlike several here, do not believe it is the answer to all that ails us.'

I don't think anyone here at DT, certainly not me, believes education is the answer to ALL of our ills, but it is certainly the common lacking denominator that causes most of our problems and holds the key to many of their solutions.

To go to an industrial model, which by the way is not the model for the future, you need a people who are on a world par educational level with industrial competitors at minimum.

I strong suggest that people look into the development model of Singapore, which is a hybrid model of the model that was used by the Puerto Ricans in the 50s and 60s and Singaporeans copied, expanded and modified to their own economic reality and needs, as the basis to develop a sustainable model for 21st century DR.

Friends and foes,

I recommend that you listen to the program in the link below, although it talks about Puerto Rico we can get some ideas that may be useful for DR:

http://www.vozdelcentro.org/?p=348

I also recommend that you look into this book:

http://www.vozdelcentro.org/?page_id=719

BELLY
Entrepreneurship , this is a word that we have never used in our dialectics here .
Thanks !!!!
The Medical students did not ask nor receive any grants from the Obama government.
They assembled resources including innovations, business acumen and finance to undertake this endeavor
Is not that a social form of entrepreneurship activity?
What if Dominican medical students will do the same.

eitennc01

That's what I have been saying here for a very long time already that many people talk about improving education but nobody knows where to improve on. The problem in DR like I said can be solve only Education and Entrepreneurship.As you just pointed out this people who are doing this project in DR didn't wait for Obama to tell them to go they just did it which is what WE lack off because many here will argue all day but once you ask them to put the opinion or words into action then you find yourself screaming in a empty room by yourself.One of the project I'm planning is to provide free education in the skills I posses to those that want it.I can send you more info if you want.From my work background I can point out at least 3 fields where Dominican workers if trained can get well jobs. i.e. HVAC tech in DR now are coming from Florida to fix systems there at a very high cost to Hotel and business that need their services.

Gloma,Belly,josean,etienc very good discusion here among you guys on this topic.
This is what the forum should be like on a regular basis,but sense the internet is a democracy for ideas you can't prevent the dunces and the ignorant ones from posting.Keep up the good work guys

PS. Is there a new Editor on board usually this type of picture with the article is reserve exclusively for coverage of Haiti.

Glo sounds very educated - he can probably in a blind tasting correctly identify 50 different rums. Also possibly well versed ancient Aramaic. Russia of course has many ballet schools. Germany has many opera houses and the UK theatres. It is of course up to the government to employ more people and set up enterprises so the benefits flow back to the people. State restaurants for example.
The government could reduce unnecessary imports by adopting Chavez's policies and make the economy grow by more cultural events which would employ many trained people.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8449721.stm
Government TV and film production like the BBC would also increase employment and educational standards.
e.g. open college and open university.
http://www.ukopencollege.co.uk/
US medicine is bloated and inefficient. Hopefully the students picked up new ideas in the DR.
S.

Belly is in fine form today. and Glomar, i beg to disagree with you about education. everything starts with education. an uninformed populace cannot effect change, as it remains in a state of complacent inertia.

Yes, I definitely thik thate is an advantage in in learning a trade, in many cases necessarily away from the home environment. In the UK the move to help the poorest started with the ragged schools.
http://www.hiddenlives.org.uk/articles/raggedschool.html
In Yugoslavia Tito set up a number of boarding schools to take children away from bad environments and provide a trade, often farming. I visited one such school in Yugoslavia and was very impressed. Large cities such as London in the UK also ran boarding schools till fairly recent times.
In poorer countries shoe shine boys and the like would benefit from trade schooling and gain considerably.
S.

i agree with ABC about trade schooling. that is a facet of Dominican education which is woefully lacking, and causes paralysis in production. what trade schools help with is understanding the THEORY of how things work. it is no good fixing things if you do not have a clue why they broke in the first place. because, you yourself will never be able to build something similar, let alone improve on the current version.

Of course that is correct but why does everyone oppose a Standards Board that would pronounce the accepted level of either work or product ...a technical school is very important and in la Romana is available only at night in one place .

Galileo proved a long time ago that neither the Earth or La Romana are the center of the Universe!

These REAL people have a different view on the REAL Dominican Republic and one of its many social ills. Not a perspective Martha would want you to here.

Santo Domingo.- La desconfianza que existe entre la Policía Nacional y los ciudadanos residentes en los barrios más afectados por la violencia es un elemento que dificulta la eficacia del programa contra la criminalidad lanzado por el gobierno en el 2005, señala un estudio.


El estudio aconseja fortalecer los programas educativos y otras políticas sectoriales para facilitar la adquisición de viviendas, construcción de instalaciones deportivas, formación técnica y vocacional para jóvenes, lo que a su juicio contribuiría a prevenir carreras criminales o ponerles fin a las iniciadas.

Interesting how EDUCATION LEADS as one of the areas that needs to be addressed to begin dealing with the problem!

http://www.listin.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=127353

Robbing from Pedro in La Capital to give Pablo in La Romana!

I hope Martha didn't have anything to do with this;

http://www.noticiassin.com/www/?g....y_article&aid=12050&tid=4

Dread
Belly is in fine form today.

Thank you. What I hope people understand is that everybody here is calling for a 21st century classroom to create scientist out of people who have not been able to finish primary school and I wish for that to become a reality but I'm not going to fool my self into thinking DR can accomplish that in the current environment of talent that exist in the country so we have to reach for what Can be accomplish in the short-term like trade school and other smaller career that will put people to work in the short-term and give the ones who want to advance into higher fields the opportunity one the market(job) become a reality.You and I been through school and you well know that taking a guy from a dominoes/Presidente life style into college level standards is not something we can accomplish in the short-term.So we have to create a bridge or a ladder to higher fields of education.

I'm sure DR can become a world class education center but we know is not something that happens over night and even if the government sets up a 21st century classroom who is going to use it as it stands today. When the 3 main fields in DR where we have talent doctor,lawyers and engineers are still using 1980s practices in 2010.We have to set goals that we know we can accomplish not try to reach for the skies as many people think here.If it was easy to move 10 million people from poverty into richness don't you think every country would have done it by now. Like they say in India there is not silver bullet to poverty. This is going to be a LONG painful process for a way out for DR and the sooner we realize that the sooner we will get it done. And if you can help go ahead DON'T wait for PLD or PRD to one day wake up and realize they want to do it and put all they effort into it because you are in for one big surprise that they simply not going to because they haven't even try yet.

Dr. Dread,

I support your comments on Belly.

I am in agreement with this portion of your rebuttal to my comment above as well: "an uninformed populace cannot effect change, as it remains in a state of complacent inertia."

Dr., I do not believe anything in my statement above is disharmonious with your rebuttal. I precisely alleged to impact of education on complacency and changes it would instigate, when I referred to Che Guevara.

I remain convinced that opportunity is essential for the employment of a well-educated populace; DR lacks these opportunities for forseeable future. As an example, I would cite Russia, which best exemplifies an underemployed and well-educated populace; Iran has similar fate. Both could experience serious political instability as a consequence.

Anyway, Dr. Dread, I always welcome your level-headed and constructive commentary-even if we should occasionally disagree.

Thank you.

Gloma

I totally agree with your last statement. People here need to understand that just focusing on education is not enough.The focus on education should be where jobs are available locally so we don't end up like Russia today or Taiwan in the 80s where they had to much talent but not enough jobs to which Taiwan politicians found a solution by focusing on bringing jobs over but Russia failed. i.e. In Russia the software industry could have been fully developed by now and competing with USA and India but the focus they were teaching their programmers in school was to become the best individually as a programmer while in India and USA they are getting teach to be a team member and is the reason why Russia is getting left behind. That's just one example where education didn't bring the results because it was focus on the right subject but on the wrong path. Don't get me wrong they are individually the best in programming but computer is all about teamwork.

Strange that when i agree with Dreadlocks and point out that the third larget city only has a night school for trade education Josean has to say that la Romana is not the centre of the universe and says there is a perspective that i do not want people to here ,,,note the spelling of here ..where is the sense in any of that !!
Of course education is important for everyone ,no one has an argument with that and it is especially important for the trades because , as Dreadlocks pointed out there is little formal training for trades available here .
I am very sorry that I can not go around the country looking at every school but i can say that in la Romana the problem is not so much with lack of buildings but lack of qualified teachers ,,that much I know so I do not want to generalise about other places that I know little of .

dreadlocks ,
let's examine for a while the word "complacency "that you have injected in our discussion.
Correct me i I am wrong. you seem to suggest that complacency is a permanent state.
Complacency is a learned behavior nourished by years of fatalism teachings
As a leaned behavior , it can be unlearned when the poor realize that :
1-You are born poor but you do not have to die poor
2-God has not made you poor
3-Jesus the son of God is not the friend of the poor.
This used to present long term challenges to those seeking to introduce an existentialism concept to deprogram the mass . They were be labelled communist or socialist.
Now that these words are old , tired and do not pose any danger to the plutocracy ( holding of wealth)status quo,
The mass can be taught that it is ok to be initiative,to be imaginative,to be creative to get out from poverty.

Initiative, imaginative creative seem to suggest look what ever opporuinuties that are being made available to you by your government.
They are a few ,but they are there.
Were not there any opportunities , we will not have this debate about Haitian illegal migration and all these so called expatriates would not invade the country.
Our universities will not attract so many foreign students including a large number of Haitians.
The opportunities are there,Look for them and grab them

Ec,

I agree with your points above on initiative and opportunity. I have alluded similarly in past postings.

It is easy to blame everything on the gov't and everything else. However, there are many things we are empowered to exercise to get out of poverty, better our lives. He who expects much from his gov't to better his life is clearly poor by choice and, possibly, is condemned to remain in that status permanently, and to help elect a succession of gov'ts full of empty promises.

MJEV.

Glo - governemnts in partnership with their people promote better agriculture, the development of the arts, theatre, sports, import substitution enterprises, festivals, health care and a myriad other activities. market economies are a no win situation - who wants 100 different designs of car but no artificial limbs of amputees? Only the idiots at the WTO and in charge of MNC's. Limited competition is good - better crops, better housing for those without housing can result. But within the framework of caring organizations and sustainability .
http://www.housingauthority.gov.hk/en
All aspects of performance are importnant environmental, social and economic.
http://www.housingauthority.gov.h....utus/publication/sr0809/index.htm
http://www.housingauthority.gov.h....publication/sr0809/case-study.htm

It is only government co-ordination that can improve the lives for everyone and provide for a green future.
p.s. Glo should note that Hong Kong Housing

authority is an extreme terrorist green Mauois organization.
S.