Dajabón, Dominican Republic.- At least one Haitian was injured by a bullet to the chest fired by Dominican troops when a group his compatriots attempted to cross into Dominican territory violently near noon today.
The injured was allowed to cross the border and taken to the emergency room in Dajabón’s hospital, while the other Haitians were taken to clinics on the Haiti side. Officials of the Border Guards (CESFRONT) immediately expanded the military border patrols after the incident.
The incident, reportedly in retaliation to the confiscation of garlic from two women who brought it from Haiti, led to the torching of trucks owned by Dominicans after they crossed previously loaded with merchandise , and the smoke on the other side of the Masacre river was visible from Dominican territory.
The confrontation began when amid the market’s din of hundreds of vendors, a group of Haitians violently burst in hurling stones at the soldiers responded with gunfire, sending Haitians scurrying back to their country and the Dominicans fleeing the zone.
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
I wouldn't drive a loaded truck into Haiti in the present situation.
People need to better assess the risks.
Written by: riosm, 29 Nov 2010 2:06 PM
From: United States
When will this end, whats it gonna take ?
When will the Haitians realize "you can't bite the hand that feeds you".
Haitians should spend there time trying to emprove Haiti.
Written by: telemeco, 29 Nov 2010 2:16 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
The army need to get rubber bullets, are paintful and effective
From: Dominican Republic
Good riddance, keep shooting chest level, and the pitis will get
the message quickly.
Written by: lovingit, 29 Nov 2010 3:32 PM
From: United States, Delaware
so, let me get this straight? Once shot, you are allowed to come in and use our tax dollars in our hospitals to treat you?
That makes a lot of sense. (NOT!!!)
telemeco, I agree with you on the rubber bullets stuff, though, I think that's what they use now. I doubt anyone would surivive a real bullet to the chest from an automatic weapon as the one pictured.
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
I hope they get the message. If you try that again, you gonna get hurt. Respect our border or get killed.
Written by: ateo2010 
, 29 Nov 2010 5:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Owning Noobs
matador,, they'll never stop we need to wipe them off ..
Written by: jose_NYC, 29 Nov 2010 7:29 PM
From: United States, Brooklyn, NY - Santo Domingo, DR
Hatian4life I agree that you hatians have the right to defend yourself, but the dominican army did the right thing shooting them.... Haitians need to respect our side of the island, shoot them dead if they dare to cross without permission. We need to set the bar and let them know that we are not responsible for their fcked up situation.
Written by: underpar, 29 Nov 2010 7:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Haitian4life
This is the problem you are just animals and when people try to help you only attack them or run them out!
It time the world went in and cleaned the place up for good and any haitian who is not on board with that should be jailed and put to to work .. these people should be working to clean up there country instead.. they continue to destroy it and live in filth and disease
.
If you gave them all 5ooo - 1oooo dollars per family to clean up that country ...what do you think would happen!
My guess Nothing!
Written by: riosm, 29 Nov 2010 8:24 PM
From: United States
Dtoussaint,
I don't claim to have all the answers, but.....
How much hate does it take to throw rocks with intent to cause injury and burn trucks ?
Millions spent by the DR gov. and the world to help the Haiti.
I take it Haiti is a classic example of recieve recieve recieve......so why even bother, help will come.
One crisis after another when will it stop ?
What ever happened to the saying "were so low, the only way is up"
Haitians are not forced to pay the DR Army to cross illegally, money saved could be put to use in Haiti.
Not all Haitians should be judged by the few, Haitians share the same wants and needs as any other humans on this earth.
I'll repeat.....Haitians must re-build Haiti.
Written by: riosm, 29 Nov 2010 8:34 PM
From: United States
Haitian4life,
Good idea, but Panama and Venezuela are quite a distance away......ever think of the higher prices ?
Written by: Pepe32, 29 Nov 2010 8:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Shoot first to the head ,and please do not bring them to our hospitals ...they may consider the risk of surviving the gunshot acceptable as opposed to living in Hades!
for Dtouusaint keep the money you spend on us but accept EVRY single Haitian in DR and the millions they send ,also find another country to give your pregnant women hospital care for free,all in all we would come out winning in the long run because every Haitian entering my country is a huge step backwards which only benefits a few corrupt businessmen because ANYONE who care about DR knows that Haiti is a curse to our island since the French screwed up and brought you over in the not too distant past!
So Piti4life please openly accept all your compatriots ILLEGALY in my country and take your business elsewhere because Haitians are sooooo stupid that they don´t realise that while we might feel a pinch Haiti will just keel over and die finally ..a failed experiment from start to finish!
Written by: mjsd82, 29 Nov 2010 8:50 PM
From: United States
"The time has come to put an end to the abuse and mistreatment of our Haitian brothers and sisters by the Dominicans. It's time for Haitians to know how the Dominicans despise them with a passion. "
Is this guy serious?
It's called Border Control.
Written by: jose_NYC, 29 Nov 2010 9:07 PM
From: United States, Brooklyn, NY - Santo Domingo, DR
Pepe
Thats not pilitical talk there broo thats hate and is not cool, but I do agree that as much as haitians contribute to the dominican economy they are also the biggest issue we face. Hatians represent missery and im sorry to say it but they are a cancer to DR. we are a small nation and we just cant acomodate 2000000 million haitians, so we should only keep tje legal ones and depord the rest and built a wall to close the border.
From: Haiti
How can Haitians be a cancer to the DR when 4/5th of the structures there are erected by Haitians? The Dominican soldiers need to stop the illegal traffic of children then you won't see them begging on your streets.
Written by: Pepe32, 29 Nov 2010 10:06 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Jose ,spend a few months in here and a year in RD watching our country slip away and then tell me that Haitians understand any other language other than strength or force .It is not even exclusinve to RD because they act the same in Haiti.
I don't hate Haitians ,I just don't want them in my country .As long as they stay on their side of the fence like good neighbours then we are fine but this crowd somehow feels they have a RIGHT to enter OUR side at will and that has to stop .
Plus my post was in response to Haitians THREATENING us with their ECONOMIC MIGHT!!! LOL
Written by: Pepe32, 29 Nov 2010 10:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic
How can Haitians be a cancer to the DR when 4/5th of the structures there are erected by Haitians?
I must remember to thank my mule for helping to lift heavy weights....
You seem to consider brute labour the creative force of society which is all Haiti can produce unless their sick mentality is changed also that labour comes at an terrible political and social cost to my nation ,deflating wages for my people and flooding the nation with a people who have never desired anything good for us.
Take your brute labour and we will somehow still build and farm as we used to before they came and our hospitals and schools will not have to take the burden of a people who make my poor country look wealthy but who are probably the most ungrateful people on earth!
Written by: riosm, 29 Nov 2010 10:23 PM
From: United States
Haitian4life,
I understand most Haitians come to the DR for work, 4/5th of the structures built in the DR were able to hold up during the Haitian quake....just goes to show you, you pay a man a good days pay for a good days work. In all fareness if I were to hire any Human being for work I would pay him his amount due.
Any Dominican army / border guard personal or family member arrested for breaking the law should be fired / fined and jailed. The fines collected could then be used to build the border wall.
Maybe those Haitian Children would rather be begging in the streets of Haiti ? Why not just send them to Sean Penn's camp.
The way the world has turned it's back on Haiti......."out of sight, out of mind".
GOD save the Haitian Children for they are the truely innocent ones and the future of Haiti, heaven knows the adult Haitians screwed it up, maybe a next Haitian generation will have a better chance.
From: United States
Haitian4Life! How ignorant can you be?!?!? Yes Haitians are hard working people, but the thing is that they don't work where they need to. They cross the border and go into our side looking for jobs which I don't think are better then the ones they have in Haiti so why bother crossing in the first place. I think all Haitians are conspiring to not only ruin their own country, but also ours. In Santiago their dozens of them all over the place. Where I'm from on Sundays the Haitians all get together and start playing soccer in our baseball field there more Haitians than Dominicans. It's like were a minority in our own country. I can see why come people want Trujillo to come back from hell.
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
From: Haiti
Chris101, forget about Trujillo, he is getting screwed by Satan in hell where he belongs.
From: United States, Brooklyn
Aim for the head! it's more economical. A man who hurls stones at us should not be given quarters let alone medical attention!
From: United States
@Pepe32
for Dtouusaint keep the money you spend on us but accept EVRY single Haitian in DR and the millions they send ,also find another country to give your pregnant women hospital care for free.
What the hell you're talking about what do you call free. I spent 7 years sutying there, i was working while then, every haitian who was working at the same place had the Medical insurance and guest what i paid and never went to Hospital even once. Do you really think the Dom GOv pay give us something free. you have to face your abuses DOminican man.
But the point is that will one day finish, and ignorant you have to understand it's not Haitian fault if you and your stealer, friend can find work i'm living in the states and i can tell you when i take a look to the news payer to see who in prison and for what 60% are Dominican.
I reapet it again your ignorant is your greatest enemy not haitian. we are the next generation and you wont dead.
From: United States
@ riosm,
<<Maybe those Haitian Children would rather be begging in the streets of Haiti ? Why not just send them to Sean Penn's camp. >>
For your information, This is a Dominican Business well organized, sometime Immigration are arresting people with passport in hand, but leave those illegal children and the women in the street, JEEPETA comes every 12 noon to have an idea of the day. and feed them.
I can give you some places and you can see for yourself, Santiago, Ruta K bajo del puente antes del Hotel Casino Matum, also they are in Ruta M, Ruta U next to where i used to work. Dominican Gov wont send those children back because they aware of the business and they also invest for this.
Come with proof and talk to me, i will share some pics if you want to. i know you can make a particular effort, but it's something natural, most of dominicans are thieves. it's not your fault but when you took prisoners and prostitutes from Europe in order to mixed up your race, This is the re
From: Puerto Rico, United States, HAITI, Puerto Rico
Unbelievable, most of the Haitians out of the 10 million in Haiti in their country but the hundreds that keep trying to cross into DR are starting to get violent especially they are realizing the border is sealed. The Haitian government should move some of its forces to the border to help with security. This is getting out of hand. Another thing, Haitians leave DR and go back to Haiti, Mexicans leave the U.S. and go back to Mexico, and Dominicans leave PR and go back to DR. Everyone go home.
Written by: Yucahu, 30 Nov 2010 1:48 AM
From: United States, Miami
Hooray the news from the border get's better and better!!!!!!
Written by: Atabey, 30 Nov 2010 8:25 AM
From: United States, NYC
ScandiViking,
While some posters have stated harsh and in some cases racist sentiments to attack Haitians, there exist an honest and defensible position for Dominican Sovereignty. Yes, the Dominican Republic has a multi-racial character; and it has many blacks in its mix. However, to state so DOES NOT make the on-going, until recently, massive movement of Haitians into the DR a passive issue. If Norway and Sweden had the great differences in living standards that exist between DR and Haiti, 6:1, or so, do you honestly think that the better off side's people would not object to the growing illegal traffic into their homeland? What people like Pepe32 and others point out is merely to remind people, especially those unfamiliar with the issues, that there are significant and VALID reasons for this growing sentiment on the part of many Dominicans. Racism is NOT the sole engine that drives this process. There are Nationalistic and Cultural characteristics at the core.
Written by: Atabey, 30 Nov 2010 8:35 AM
From: United States, NYC
Some have stated that IF DR were as poor and in such a mess as Haiti, then it would be Dominicans moving towards Haiti. Fine, but the FACTS are that the REALITY of the situation IS NOT and has not been the case HISTORICALLY. The encroachment has always been from West to East, and NEVER from East to West! Go the the history texts. The French created the hugely profitable BUT human consuming Monster Slave society that would become the core of the Haitian State and Nation. The French used the most brutal and calculating schemes to draw the last little morsel of profitability from the massive waves of slaves brought from Africa. The French deforested the Haitian or Western side of the island, and after they were forced out, the ensuring Haitian State and Nation continued this mad process until today we have a Nation devoid of something like 98% of its once forested landmass. The DR had no hand in making this terrible situation in Haiti, and many Dominicans don't feel obligated!
Written by: Atabey, 30 Nov 2010 8:45 AM
From: United States, NYC
Yet, many Dominicans understand that Haiti needs to right her ship IF the island is to ever find an acceptable semblance of peaceful co-existence. And many Dominicans are willing to entertain notions such as migrant working Permits and the like that establish an organized and systematic order of doing business. Not the chaos and disorganized ways thus practiced. So, if this current border arrangement where apparently the terms have shifted to stronger control over illegal transit is codified by actual practice and adherence, a better outcome for all is in place. Hopefully the new President of Haiti will be sworn in next month and the 10 billion dollars will really start to flow into Haiti. Haiti needs to find her Identity and address her core issues; No one can give it to her.
Written by: grincano, 30 Nov 2010 11:09 AM
From: Dominican Republic
I keep hearing comments about the deforestation in Haiti. Nobody ever comments on how to stop it. Having lived in the DR for a long time and having worked some in Haiti and was there for the earthquake I have a comment. It appears to me the problem of burning charcoal to cook was solved in the DR some time ago by subsidizing the price of propane gas. It is now cheaper and easier in Haiti to cook using charcoal. It looks like though after flying from the DR to PP that this may be coming to and end--there are no more trees. But the Haitians are now over in the DR cutting trees----big problem for the DR. If somebody wants to really address the deforestation issue, aid agencies should give away propane cookers and the gov. of Haiti should make propane available and subsidize the price to the point where it is cheaper to use propane. I know this is a cultural thing that would take a long time to solve. I know I should mention the laws here against cutting live trees.
Written by: Pepe32, 30 Nov 2010 11:28 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Anyone cutting our trees should be shot !! Dominican or Haitian .We cannot allow the Haitians to do on our side what they have done in theirs nor do we have the resources to fix Haiti .The only logical solution as far as DR is concerned and in our interests would be to seal the border,deport all the illegals and then....we could analyse our labour needs and issue work permits for those we decide to allow in.!
From: Canada
The DR needs to close the border. End of Story. The Dominican Republic can't afford the effects of cholera or this violence. The country revloves around 64% or more now of tourism. The last thing you need is for European, Canadian, and American countries say do not travel to the DR.
If this happens not only will resorts be empty and workers unemployed but the whole economy will suffer in the DR.
Shut the border.
From: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito"
"But the Haitians are now over in the DR cutting trees"
What makes them think they have the right to do such?
Written by: Pepe32, 1 Dec 2010 12:48 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Atabey,I began optimistic but the more I know about Haiti and Haitians and their obvious reluctance to accept their current situation and their responsability in it makes me certain that their is no way Haiti will ever be fixed which only leaves it one choice which is to swarm over to the green side of the island and continue their predatory habits on our side.
This is an issue of survival and I don't believe it can be stopped without austere and extreme action ,besides even the best selling will not make us look good in front of a leftist international crowd so we must do what we have to do and ideally all at once then like Honduras we must weather the storn and wait for it to subside at least realising that our main impediment and our most culturally retrograde influence is safely behind a border which will will protect by force if necessary.
From: United States
There is SO much hate speech and derogatory comments against Haitians its unbelievable. So many people act as if Haiti has just bumbled along and never been able to do anything good, but seem to forget that Haiti fought for and WON its Independence unlike other Nations where the independence was granted after years of concessions and political swooning. But that independence came with a hefty price - Haiti has been in debt for SOOOO long, then after that other Nations tried to impose their Political influence on Haiti which it also rejected. So Haiti is not in poverty because the people are incapable, or inferior or savages, but rather it is unique in its history as an independent nation. If the shoe was on the other foot the Dominican Republic would be in the EXACT same situation. What Haiti needs now is help. Its not about who is to blame, or whose fault or responsibility. Its simply the decent thing to do to help your fellow man - regardless of 'who' or 'what' they are.
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People need to better assess the risks.
When will the Haitians realize "you can't bite the hand that feeds you".
Haitians should spend there time trying to emprove Haiti.
the message quickly.
That makes a lot of sense. (NOT!!!)
telemeco, I agree with you on the rubber bullets stuff, though, I think that's what they use now. I doubt anyone would surivive a real bullet to the chest from an automatic weapon as the one pictured.
This is the problem you are just animals and when people try to help you only attack them or run them out!
It time the world went in and cleaned the place up for good and any haitian who is not on board with that should be jailed and put to to work .. these people should be working to clean up there country instead.. they continue to destroy it and live in filth and disease
.
If you gave them all 5ooo - 1oooo dollars per family to clean up that country ...what do you think would happen!
My guess Nothing!
I don't claim to have all the answers, but.....
How much hate does it take to throw rocks with intent to cause injury and burn trucks ?
Millions spent by the DR gov. and the world to help the Haiti.
I take it Haiti is a classic example of recieve recieve recieve......so why even bother, help will come.
One crisis after another when will it stop ?
What ever happened to the saying "were so low, the only way is up"
Haitians are not forced to pay the DR Army to cross illegally, money saved could be put to use in Haiti.
Not all Haitians should be judged by the few, Haitians share the same wants and needs as any other humans on this earth.
I'll repeat.....Haitians must re-build Haiti.
Good idea, but Panama and Venezuela are quite a distance away......ever think of the higher prices ?
for Dtouusaint keep the money you spend on us but accept EVRY single Haitian in DR and the millions they send ,also find another country to give your pregnant women hospital care for free,all in all we would come out winning in the long run because every Haitian entering my country is a huge step backwards which only benefits a few corrupt businessmen because ANYONE who care about DR knows that Haiti is a curse to our island since the French screwed up and brought you over in the not too distant past!
So Piti4life please openly accept all your compatriots ILLEGALY in my country and take your business elsewhere because Haitians are sooooo stupid that they don´t realise that while we might feel a pinch Haiti will just keel over and die finally ..a failed experiment from start to finish!
Is this guy serious?
It's called Border Control.
Thats not pilitical talk there broo thats hate and is not cool, but I do agree that as much as haitians contribute to the dominican economy they are also the biggest issue we face. Hatians represent missery and im sorry to say it but they are a cancer to DR. we are a small nation and we just cant acomodate 2000000 million haitians, so we should only keep tje legal ones and depord the rest and built a wall to close the border.
I don't hate Haitians ,I just don't want them in my country .As long as they stay on their side of the fence like good neighbours then we are fine but this crowd somehow feels they have a RIGHT to enter OUR side at will and that has to stop .
Plus my post was in response to Haitians THREATENING us with their ECONOMIC MIGHT!!! LOL
I must remember to thank my mule for helping to lift heavy weights....
You seem to consider brute labour the creative force of society which is all Haiti can produce unless their sick mentality is changed also that labour comes at an terrible political and social cost to my nation ,deflating wages for my people and flooding the nation with a people who have never desired anything good for us.
Take your brute labour and we will somehow still build and farm as we used to before they came and our hospitals and schools will not have to take the burden of a people who make my poor country look wealthy but who are probably the most ungrateful people on earth!
I understand most Haitians come to the DR for work, 4/5th of the structures built in the DR were able to hold up during the Haitian quake....just goes to show you, you pay a man a good days pay for a good days work. In all fareness if I were to hire any Human being for work I would pay him his amount due.
Any Dominican army / border guard personal or family member arrested for breaking the law should be fired / fined and jailed. The fines collected could then be used to build the border wall.
Maybe those Haitian Children would rather be begging in the streets of Haiti ? Why not just send them to Sean Penn's camp.
The way the world has turned it's back on Haiti......."out of sight, out of mind".
GOD save the Haitian Children for they are the truely innocent ones and the future of Haiti, heaven knows the adult Haitians screwed it up, maybe a next Haitian generation will have a better chance.
This is great, this is equal to what Haitians did to whites colonist in the 17th century.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj84Sw1x2po&NR=1
It's called BEE (BLACK ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT) It's this a fair game?
You have the last word.
Aim for the head! it's more economical. A man who hurls stones at us should not be given quarters let alone medical attention!
for Dtouusaint keep the money you spend on us but accept EVRY single Haitian in DR and the millions they send ,also find another country to give your pregnant women hospital care for free.
What the hell you're talking about what do you call free. I spent 7 years sutying there, i was working while then, every haitian who was working at the same place had the Medical insurance and guest what i paid and never went to Hospital even once. Do you really think the Dom GOv pay give us something free. you have to face your abuses DOminican man.
But the point is that will one day finish, and ignorant you have to understand it's not Haitian fault if you and your stealer, friend can find work i'm living in the states and i can tell you when i take a look to the news payer to see who in prison and for what 60% are Dominican.
I reapet it again your ignorant is your greatest enemy not haitian. we are the next generation and you wont dead.
<<Maybe those Haitian Children would rather be begging in the streets of Haiti ? Why not just send them to Sean Penn's camp. >>
For your information, This is a Dominican Business well organized, sometime Immigration are arresting people with passport in hand, but leave those illegal children and the women in the street, JEEPETA comes every 12 noon to have an idea of the day. and feed them.
I can give you some places and you can see for yourself, Santiago, Ruta K bajo del puente antes del Hotel Casino Matum, also they are in Ruta M, Ruta U next to where i used to work. Dominican Gov wont send those children back because they aware of the business and they also invest for this.
Come with proof and talk to me, i will share some pics if you want to. i know you can make a particular effort, but it's something natural, most of dominicans are thieves. it's not your fault but when you took prisoners and prostitutes from Europe in order to mixed up your race, This is the re
While some posters have stated harsh and in some cases racist sentiments to attack Haitians, there exist an honest and defensible position for Dominican Sovereignty. Yes, the Dominican Republic has a multi-racial character; and it has many blacks in its mix. However, to state so DOES NOT make the on-going, until recently, massive movement of Haitians into the DR a passive issue. If Norway and Sweden had the great differences in living standards that exist between DR and Haiti, 6:1, or so, do you honestly think that the better off side's people would not object to the growing illegal traffic into their homeland? What people like Pepe32 and others point out is merely to remind people, especially those unfamiliar with the issues, that there are significant and VALID reasons for this growing sentiment on the part of many Dominicans. Racism is NOT the sole engine that drives this process. There are Nationalistic and Cultural characteristics at the core.
If this happens not only will resorts be empty and workers unemployed but the whole economy will suffer in the DR.
Shut the border.
What makes them think they have the right to do such?
This is an issue of survival and I don't believe it can be stopped without austere and extreme action ,besides even the best selling will not make us look good in front of a leftist international crowd so we must do what we have to do and ideally all at once then like Honduras we must weather the storn and wait for it to subside at least realising that our main impediment and our most culturally retrograde influence is safely behind a border which will will protect by force if necessary.