The Dominican Health authorities should pass out free chlorine to the people.

All it takes is one crazy Haitian to bring back a gallon of contamananted water form Haiti and pour it in one of our rivers and then we are screwed for sure.

All it takes is one crazy Haitian to= Naw our water ways are already polluted by us Dominicans.

Here we go, thats what happens when you don't get things seriously, consecuency after the fact. Leonel fault.

Go say this to the nepaleese, they rought the decease in the island

If the UN really wants to help, or any other nation for that matter, perhaps paying for enough vaccine to go around would be a good start, especially in the areas where the disease is spreading rapidly.

Well finally the DR istaking my advice seriously. The rivers contain fecal coliform and this bacteria promotes the growth of the baccilum cholera and also provides a breeding ground.

Also what is desperately needed is a decent sewage system to prevent any progression of the disease.

WHO would be silly enough to drink water from the river without boiling it ..not one death in the DR yet 2000 plus in Haiti ,,maybe that says something .

The DR has better medical capabilities than Haiti for sure Our pockets of extreme poverty all over the island are the perfect hiding place for cholera. Waste water contaminated with fecal matter combined with water being used as clean water. I am surprised along the Haitian border there are not many more cases. I will give the DR credit for that and not one death yet so they are dealing with the cases coming up very well so far. Lets hope they keep it up and can prevent this from spreading anymore.

Doctors Urge Cholera Vaccine For Haiti, Neighbors [The Dominican Republic]
There's a 4:51 minute chip if anyone wants to listen on NPR.

December 10, 2010

http://www.npr.org/2010/12/10/131....olera-vaccine-for-haiti-neighbors

Leading public health officials and researchers are calling for a crash vaccination campaign against cholera in Haiti and neighboring countries.

A vaccine is needed, they say, to control what researchers say is a more lethal strain of cholera circulating widely in Haiti and starting to affect the Dominican Republic.

Until now, experts felt that there wasn't enough vaccine to be effective and that a vaccination campaign would distract from efforts to treat the thousands with the disease.

Written by: JimHarrington, 11 Dec 2010 12:04 PM
"Well finally the DR istaking my advice seriously."


This nonsensical hateful cretin is a legend in his own mind, and its becoming very clear to all non-believers that his intentions are to undermine everything in relation to the Dominican Republic.

Atabey ..so as there have now been cases in the USA, are we to vaccinate everyone there ??

your a first class idiot suavecito.

I feel sorry for this poor bastard who they are testing it on.

Ricardolito
are you really comparing a couple cases in a country with good sanitation and clean water to a country where 2000 people have already died because they have very poor sanitation and no access to clean water?

And the water supply and sanitation in the DR isn't too much better, especially in the compos.

Vaccinations would spare lives here.

no I am not ..I am just commenting on the question of vaccination in neighbouring countries ,,the two countries where Haitians go to are the DR and the USA , neither of which have recorded a single death from cholera ...as this disease is so easy to treat and is so easy to avoid that I question whether it is worthwhile inocculating an entire nation .

The problem is that Atabey has been cutting and pasting every comment he finds on cholera in Haiti ,whether it is accredited or not , and he seems to believe that anyone who writes MD after his name is,in fact, a doctor ,,,rather than an internet fraud .

Dr Ricardolito,

Sorry I didn't catch you earlier but family matters have first calls. As to your point that I use suspect sources, How's this list:

1. the New England Journal of Medicine
2. Center for Disease Control or CDC
3. The Lancet

Perhaps in your idiotic haste to "control the message' attempt you haven't kept pace with the developments concerning this epidemic. Certainly, you would have noticed that;

1. The island of Hispaniola has not had a Cholera outbreak for close to a century. Thus the populations, Haitian and Dominican, of the island have no immunity.
2. The type of Cholera is an aggressive type and according to The Lancet:
"Further, cholera is unlikely to disappear from Haiti any time soon. The El Tor strain will probably become endemic in Haiti. Bangladesh is now in its fifth decade of an El Tor epidemic; epidemics caused by other strains have trailed off within 20 years.9"

Take your head out of your arse Caballero; you just might catch somethi

I forgot to add Dr. Paul Farmer a medical anthropologist and physician who has provided medical care to some of the poorest populations in the world. He is chairman of Harvard Medical School’s Department of Global Health and Social Medicine.

Ricardolito, you should read and comprehend the material before engaging in your idiotic posts. The true friends and admirers of the DR are ill served by buffoons like yourself. Go and read what these CREDIBLE and ESTEEMED MEDICAL SOURCES state concerning the epidemic of Cholera. You made some silly attack against my statement that the Cholera epidemic was probably 99% certain to have been introduced by the Nepalese troops stationed in Haiti. And what exactly has happened? My statement has been substantiated by the EXPERTS.

"No other hypothesis could be found to explain the outbreak of a cholera epidemic in this village… not affected by the earthquake earlier this year and located dozens of kilometers from the coast and tent camps," he wrote in a confidential report obtained by the Associated Press.

U.N. spokesman, Martin Nesirky, responded by saying there was no hard evidence that the base was the source. In fact, Piarroux could not prove that any of the U.N. soldiers had the disease nor that there was any cholera inside of the base.

However, according to the Associated Press, his reports said that possible evidence of the disease had been removed from the base.

When he visited, septic tanks and pipes that would prove the presence of the bacteria were no longer there.

"It can not be ruled out that steps have been taken to remove the suspected fecal matter and to erase the traces of an epidemic of cholera among the soldiers," Piarroux's report said.

In October, the U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention reported that the cholera strain found in Haiti matched one present in South Asia.

Troops from Nepal, a country in the South Asian region that suffered from cholera outbreaks this summer, admitted that they had to replace a leaking pipe inside the base, and that the pipe contained a foul-smelling material.

The Associated Press discovered that a contractor dumped the material into an overflowing pool located close to a hillside that drains into the Artibonite river.

According to Piarroux, the first cholera patients drank water from the tributary of that river."

Atabey ..I am a defender of the Dominican Republic when a the corruption practices of some people is expended by people here to mean all Dominicans are corrupt ,I can also see that when you post good cuttings along side ridiculuous cuttings it gives the ridiculuous postings some form of legitimicay...Now I hope by now everyone knows that a person gets cholera by drinking contaminated water or,much less often, eating food that has been contaminated by dirty water and that cholera is very easy to avoid and very easy to cure .
It is not caused by rubbing up against clothes of an infected person nor is it caused by breathing the same air as a contaminated person so you should be more discriminative when you do your postings so people can have faith in the accredited postings .

Call in the U.N. Where is the U.N.?

Ricardolito,

And when have I stated that you can get Cholera from the air? You see that's why your disagreements are hollow. For I've NEVER stated such nonsense. Nor have I stated that mosquitoes are the carriers! What I've posted is a rebuttal to Dready's statement that Cholera does not travel with people. Dready said that the mere travel or movement of Haitians into DR would not have any consequences for the DR. I posted a VIDEO with a REAL DOCTOR discussing the virulent type of Cholera being experienced in Haiti and the degree of protection needed by those close to the pathogen. The REAL DOCTOR stated candidly that indeed IF ONE CAME INTO CONTACT with such a person, merely brushing sides COULD make you exposed to the Cholera. I guess you don't recall how susceptible we, our children, all are to the daily ins and outs. That we still have significant pockets of dreadfully poor inhabitants and that potable water and sanitation are not a given in many areas of our country.

Written by: Vivacuba, 12 Dec 2010 9:04 AM
From: Dominican Republic

Call in the U.N. Where is the U.N.?

VIVACUBA, I wouldn't be too cheerful over this matter. Cuba happens to be part of the Caribbean, too. And while it does have a militaristic regimen and better systems of organization than Haiti and DR that should allow for better containment of outbreaks, there are no certainties here. Remember, this pathogen type has been going strong for 5 decades in Asia!! That's 50 years and counting. So even if Cuba is not currently affected, it might be down the road. Nothing too cheerful in that, no?

With all the resources that are being deployed, I seriously doubt there would only be 28 cases.

More like 2,800 or 28,000...

Only, the fear of tourism boycot will make the poitikeros say anything.

Cuba, the UN is worthless in reaching consensus in this type of crisis ..... what we really need, and I believe they are already on site, is the CDC.

Atabey ...here you go again ....this pathogen type has been going strong for 5 decades in Asia ..can you tell us in your own words what is a pathogen type,how many deaths have there been in, say ,Malaysia, Thailand , Vietnam and Cambodia and are the populations given vaccines ??
Let me tell you that in Thailand there are spasmodic outbreaks and in 25 years , 13 people have died ..and NO , the population is not given mass vaccinations and NO, tourists are not advised to have a vaccination ..Compare that to deaths from other diseases such as the common Asian flu which is so easy to transmit and I am wondering why you have this fixation with cholera .
But as Dreadlocks has advised me before ..I am wasting my words.

Ay Ricardolito!

Oye, let's try small parts. First, the problems facing our neighbor to the west are well known: lack of potable water, severe lack of waste water treatment facilities, severe lack of sewage link-ups, etc., and the on-going disorganization just doesn't appear to end. Have you checked out the news lately? How much are you willing to bet that things go off smoothly and with any efficiency in Haiti? That my friend is our first and most disturbing variable. The instability and lack of organizational momentum will allow the the strain of cholera a hybrid strain of the "classic" type, which is associated with more severe illness, and the "El Tor" biotype, which is associated with staying in the environment longer, according to the CDC report, to become endemic island wide!!

And the people advocating vaccination are REAL DOCTORS, some of the leading experts in their field. Why don't you read their recommendations before you post?