Common decency and human sensibility must be taught to the Dominican police. By filing a complaint, the Jesuit mission is leading the way in exposing the lack of professionalism characteristic of the Dominican police.

Deport them all.

Razon,

I doubt that DR's police force and other government officials are not in need of more training and better management. However, when the Legal authority, in this case the police, have someone in custody it is not the case that lawyers or other people can interfere and deny the policy action on the spot. These lawyers must first have legal authority as in a writ of suspension of deportation signed by a magistrate of the the court. If people are allowed to prevent the policy or other officials from performing their duties, no matter how contested, the society will reign in terror. Of course, there is a political contest going on with some people wanting to legalize as many illegals as possible, and others with the opposite position. It's happening here in the States, in Europe, and recently in Argentina. Paraguayans, Bolivians, Ecuadorians have moved into private lands to set up a shanty town. Argentinians responded and violence has ensued.

Anybody that has seen a Migra operation in the US will agree there is no pampering for illegals, and meddlers will be roughed up and arrested.

Say no to ñoñería!

Those Haitians need to concentrate on taking a bath. Just deport them.

oh look more people with low I.Q levels coming in who would then later turn the country into being more corrupt. , thanks to this idiots and the pathetic gov't. sad.

matador culando

I would like you to sign my new book
" Matador Culando or
The Audacity Of living illegaly in the United States and trumpet the deportation of illegal Haitian living in DR"

Hey, look who came out the woodwork el Haitianito etienn. LOL.

I don't miss you but Im glad you're still alive. I thought the cholera outbreak got the best of you petit garcon.

How is the family back in Haiti? oh I forgot they live in DR, they can't risk living there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cehkSxOLNA
Que lindo es ser DOMINICANO!
...and wake up next to a beautiful woman like the one on this video.

don't be silent
You know that YIN and YANG must coexist
I am yin and you are yang
I am not surpised that you are still alive

Talking about pretty girl ,they don't know about trini posse , It would have been unfair to compare any Dougla with the best of Dominican girl they have . I met that girl in Arima , OOOO GOD , . The best girls in the Caribbean are Trinis.

The Jesuit are a bunch of hypocritical blasphemers who go around the world breaking every paedophilia and immigration law known to mankind, while getting away unpunished for the crimes they commit because their intentions are supposed to be good.

Deport every illegal, and get rid of the jesuits. They want to hand over our country to the foreigners.

the" PLUS BRIGADE" were here

MATADOR and DON'T BE SILENT, it seems to me that the very intelligent Dominicans that run this country dont really LOVE Haitians however, they have accepted the facts that Dominicans in general don't like to cut sugar cane or work on construction sites for minimal wages therefore Haitians provide slavelike workforce to help the economy just like Israel cannot live without palestinians, USA cannot live without Mexicans, Dubai cannot live without Philipinos and so on. So, you may not like Haitians, that is your right, but before you get on a forum and let the whole wide world know that you may not have had decent schooling by writing stupidity, you should check yourselves. I'd rather be an Intelligent Racist than a Stupid Racist. :)

I really don't give a rat ass buddy, you are IRRELEVANT!

DON'T BE SILENT, you see that's what I mean when i say you should THINK before writing anything. You should give a RATS ASS because it's our country. Anybody with descent intellect know that DRUGS and CORRUPT Government Officials pose a bigger threat than people escaping poverty looking for a JOB to sweep streets, work construction, work on the finca and cut sugar cane. :)

i feel you patchuko, "a day without haitian in dominican republic "

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Listen guys, it is not a racial issue on my part but a social issue. The truth is that this country cannot hold so much illegal immigration. It is no lie that illegal immigration benefits the owners of construction companies and sugarcane, coffee, crops growing in general and many other industry owners but on another note it affects the vast majority of Dominicans with less money to spend on our public healthcare system(which already sucks), and Public Education, housing, roads and employment for our poor. We have tons of homeless/beggers on the streets (which many are Dominican but many more are Haitian) and we do not have enough shelters for our own kind and just when we think we might be able to have the situation under control in a year or two another few thousand homeless show up after they crossed the border. This is a huge problem and enough is enough. Let's get our home straightened out because no one else is going to do it for us.

ojedamaggiolo80, I agree with everything you said hermano, my point is until the Government at the very least raises minimum wage no Dominican wants to come and clean my Mom's backyard. We as a nation have relied on this cheap labor force to the point of getting spoiled. I do agree that it's mainly a social issue, i seldom write anything, however, when you have some people use this forum to show how ugly their insides are we must show them that they are a minority. When the earthquake happened we were one of the first nations to reach out and help the Haitian people, my son's school collected food to send to the needy, so the vast majority of Dominicans understand that we need to start by getting rid of corruption, create jobs, educate our young people that playing domino and drinking cerveza is not a job, put our people to work, then we can talk about immigration. For now we can only do a Band Aid Job because we allow these people to cross the border (the guards let them in for a

Patchuko,

Here's some food for thought: Haitian Immigration neutralizes development

"French political scientist Aymeric Chauprade said that the Dominican Republic would not be able to implement a development strategy to improve the lot of millions of its poor citizens as long as it continues to tolerate uncontrolled Haitian migration. He added that issues surrounding this problem are also generating negative publicity in the European Union. He said that, "all policies that try to get the poorest class into the middle class are going to be affected by this migration, and President Fernandez understands this perfectly."

Accompanied by Rosanna Pons, the Coordinator of Geopolitical Studies at the Global Democracy and Development Foundation (Funglode), Chauprade, a critic of United States foreign policy and a defender of the move towards the left currently under way in Latin America,

said that the solution to the Haitian problem is not in the hands of the Dominican Republic or the United States, or even France.

He said that "the problem in Haiti is one of identity... and they won't find their political stability until they find their identity."

So even if DR wanted to be as accommodating as possible, DR's own situation would be pulled down by the unending waves of cheap Haitian labor. Young and poor Dominicans of all ages would naturally be displaced by the far cheaper labor pool from Haiti. An inconvenient truth but a fact nevertheless. Haiti needs to find her Identity and for that to happen her own people have to engage and produce it; No other nation or people can do this for Haiti. I don't endorse racist talk and have at times expressed myself on this matter, we Dominicans do ourselves poorly by engaging in these un-winnable exchanges. These are not the 1800s and today's Haiti has the sentiment of the world Community on her side. We are looked

upon as being the malcontents. And yes, we have people that have taken advantage of Haitians to produce goods and services cheaper. Also engaged in illegal trades and services of all kind. However, as the saying goes: It takes two to tango. The Haitians are not innocent bystanders. Their lack of institutional and societal fortitude has allowed this situation to happen. Many are the mothers and Fathers that in desperation SELL THEIR CHILDREN! No Dominican puts a gun to their head and forces them to do such an inhumane act. Again, I don't mean to say that those who take advantage aren't guilty and shouldn't be punished. The cancer lies inside Haiti. And again, these people that engage are some people NOT the bulk of the Dominican population. And therein lies a big difference. Many ill thought idiots want to pin these abuses on the entire Dominican populace and that's as stupid and idiotic as anything hurled at Haitians by some Dominicans.

Atabey and Trini, As I am reading your comments I cannot help but have a smile on my face. Two days ago this post was very negative and personal and my thought was there has to be people reading this stuff that wants to engage in a different direction. I salute you both for your positive views and insight into this very sensitive but important issue facing the DR. While I don't agree with everything that you both posted, however, I've learned you can disagree but respect one another and move the discussion forward.

The flaw in trinihaitian's position is to compare the situation between the DR and Haiti with that of the USA and Mexico. There's such a huge difference between the two, and the main one has to do with the enormous resources at the beck and call of the USA. Simply put, the DR has no self sustaining or independent basis for seeing through such an enormous policy without the negative consequences for its own poor and indigenous destitute population. Yes both nations can and should come to some kind of mutual understanding regarding labor policy, but the DR can not absorb the numbers coming out of Haiti without these human waves impacting the DR's social fabric and institutional stability. The plight of tens of thousand displaced workers and meager wage increase salaried workers creates a dangerous internal situation for the DR. Combine that with a very high GINI score, something like .50, and a societal time bomb is in the making. Again, Haiti needs to get their situation

going in the right direction and the billions of dollars pledged for this coming year started. If the political disorder continues into 2011, God help us because then we might witness a total collapse and perhaps even a significant pull back of international support for Haiti. This would have very dire consequences for DR. Let's hope that the Haitian elites and governing class understand the dire situation they stand on and don't resort to the ill suited positions that have made Haiti such a basket case with its huge problems affecting its neighbors own developmental model. As I've stated before, the Dominican Republic could not have a better outcome than to see Haiti blossom into a stable and well managed nation-state. A Nation-state where its citizens were well fed, housed and educated. Where opportunities for all her children resonated with the managers and elites of that border country. This must come from within; it cannot be produced via the current negative model.

I believe the migration of Haitians into the DR is

a complex situation at best, instead of looking for one particular reason it encompass many different ones. If Haiti had political stability it would help somewhat, but we would continue to see people cross the border, of course those who flee insecurity would go back, however, those seeking Jobs would continue to come until conditions for a better life improve back home. Most Humans if given the choice will always choose to go home if conditions permit. Atabey, I thought our GINI score was into the .40s (not that much better) that said, in order to improve ones GINI score it would take all of DR's society to move our score lower. As for Haitian IDENTITY, i believe Haitians lack quite a lot in order to put their house in order, however, IDENTITY is not one of them. Haitians need Young Educated Leaders to take their Country away from the Status Quo and start a new relationship with the Elite by which a Quid Pro Quo is not at the top of the list.

The GINI score is from the latest "RESULTADOS PRELIMINARES
Gobernador Banco Central informa resultados de economía superan expectativas
CERRARÁ CON UN CRECIMIENTO DE 7.8% DEL PIB"

"...que ha ido acompañado de una mejoría en el coeficiente GINI, el cual ha disminuido de 0.542 en octubre 2004 a 0.505 en abril 2010, siendo la disminución más acentuada en los últimos dos años (2009-2010)."

Of course, there are difficult reasons in bring the score down within a modernization process. In any attempt at market opening and Globalization those in society with the better skill-sets will naturally reap the greatest fruits. The government by way of taxation needs to promote policies, e.g. education and sanitation, that are neutral or stand to better the overall capacity of the society to generate future value. These expenditures are not Welfare or set asides that do harm to some while making winners of other undeserving sectors of the society. all Dominicans gain when the society

has more education. It's far easier and more remunerative to capitalist to have workers that know how to read and write. They can make more sophisticated goods and services! More value and higher wages. But when a society such as that of the DR has to in effect provide for close to 20 million people, well things are far more challenging. It's true that even if Haiti were to begin her long desired resuscitation as a State and Nation the labor flows will still be from west to east. But the pace could be significantly reduced. And that makes a big difference in the equation. Plus, a modern and efficient system to provide Haitians with correct and legal documentation will go a long way to help ameliorate the situation we find our else in. DR needs to help its people reach a modern standard of living and do so while helping, where it can, its neighbor Haiti. Forcing Dominicans away from the nation and basically substituting cheaper Haitian labor will cause more problems.

Let's hope and wish that this coming 2011 will FINALLY be the start of your wish list above. Haitians need better outcomes NOW!!

The Cholera epidemic will peak during this coming year. I can only hope that somehow its spread is contained, but expect the worse in terms of island wide extension. No winners and lots of pain. But the future as always will not stand still and march on one must.

In DR the same thing with any illegal aliens and in your country the same thing and your father should not hire illegal aliens in the first place. That is where the problem stems from here in DR, many large corporations only seek their own benefits and dont think about the harm they a

Trini I get your point and yes every single island nation in the Caribbean has all the right to deport illegal immigrants from their land. Whether the immigrants come from my country, yours haiti, jamaica whatever! My stand is the same for any nationality. I am talking about Haitian immigration now because that is what the article is about but if you look up a past article on a group of Dominicans who were caught by the Puerto Rican authorities and trialed because PR established a law that all second time illegal aliens were to be prosecuted for breaking the law I commented possitively towards The Puerto Rican authorities stand! They have their laws and must be obeyed even if it affects my own kind.