SANTO DOMINGO.- The Dominican Government heightened security along its border with Haiti, to prevent the entry of a group of more than 2,000 convicts of Haitian and other nationalities, who fled Port-au-Prince jails in the wake of the January 12 quake.
Yesterday Immigration director Sigfrido Pared said the Haiti Government provided the list of names and photos of the inmates who escaped Haiti’s penitentiary, which collapsed during the quake, among them Colombians, Pakistanis, Indians and others, in addition to Haitians.
Perez said the information has prompted bolstered controls in all border crossings, to keep the escapees from entering the country, in coordination with the military and the Border Security Corp (Cesfront). "We already have the photos of all the people who fled the jails in Port-au-Prince, naturally we have no information so far that they’ve crossed into Dominican Republic, at least not officially.”
He said regardless of how dangerous the prisoners who escaped are, nor how many have managed to deceive the Haitian authorities, it’s a topic of concern for the Dominican Government to protect its borders. “We remain alert to prevent being surprised by the entry of the escapees from Haitian jails."
Written by: juanb, 26 Feb 2010 10:54 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Now? Seems a little late.
Does this mean that extra effort will be made to prevent only these people from entering illegaly. The normal 10,000 illegals per day will still be allowed to enter at will, but these 2000 will be prevented from entering? I am not sure I understand what the immigration director is saying, other than, "Hey look at me, I'm making an announcement."
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
They are on their way to your neighborhood as we speak
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
we should put army tanks on the border or maybe some eletric fences , anything to stop the flood of imigrants
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
If they were coming they would be here already! They have had plenty of time to cross the border by now. Another case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
Mhmm so the haitian and other race prisoners are appearently crossing the border? Why do you know think of actually trying to fix this? They might already have some fake id's and changed what they look like and are rapping people!Wait they already have. Anyways I never knew not only haitians were in port au prince's prison. Intresting.
Hellborn aren't immagrants people who go to a country which they were not born in to settle? Dont you mean illegal immigrant? You also spelled it wrong. lol
From: United States
missHaiti what is "Immagrant, intresting, appearently, rapping, anyways,Mhmm"?
Why isn't Haiti spelled with a capital H ?
"changed what they look like" Is that English ?
Great God missHaiti. your grammar, vocabulary, syntax need a lot of fixing .
Write to me at : habie1212@yahoo.ca. I also live in Orlando and I may be able to help out my fellow Orlandoans ( I made up that word just like you did )
From: Dominican Republic
Its going to be a long night boys !
Better send out a red alert to Kellogs ! These mules are going to need all the Cheerios they can get . HEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAW
From: United States
Dominicans should be encouraged to form neighbourhood watch groups to identify and inform the police or appropriate authorities of any new faces in their neighbourhood.
Last time I stayed at my house in Puerto Plata , I was shocked to see so many suspicious Haitians faces loitering in the barrio where there were only a few Haitians before the earthquake.
This had became the talk of concerned families.
A friend informed me that he rented a room to a Haitian familiy of three(wife , husband ,and daughter) just to find out that there were 8 more people sleeping in the house at night.
Althought he felt for them but he could not affort to have 11 people living a room.
Haitian leaders should start acting like grownups and provide for their poeple so they do not become a public nuisance for another country
From: Dominican Republic
And just when you thought it was safe to back in the water !
Written by: Grosero, 26 Feb 2010 12:38 PM
From: United States
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The Colombians have nothing to worry about....Just head to SD
As for the Pakistanis, Indians and others...Steal a Yola and sail S/SE to the BVI's....
From: Dominican Republic
Gitchee gun Paw , hea com dem McCOYS ober dems hills agin ...
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
shoot em Paw revenooer got boots on
From: United States
Typical stupid move. This should have been dealt with weeks ago. Any who have some money stashed are already safely hiding in the DR. Maybe that was the plan all along.
From: United States, Brooklyn
DAMN ETIENNE... That last comment was mind blowing... I am starting to like you... hmmm... nah!
GOOD JOB BUDDY!
From: United States, Brooklyn
Increase CESFRONT by 10,000 men... to properly guard our border... Take them from the Army, whom have no enemies to fight and are just there collecting a check.... If done so it would help the DR in the following ways
1. The army would be put to good use [not abusing the populance]
2. Haitians would stop coming in to use our resources and facilities
3. Lower income Dominican wages will increase due to the lack of Haitians presence
4. Domincans will no longer will need to go abroad for a liveable wage
5. The pissed off haitians who wont be able to immigrate to the DR will start a revolution that would get that nation moving forward to job creation or the elite will die beaten by an angry mob of hungry zombies...
Written by: cantave, 26 Feb 2010 6:01 PM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
"I was shocked to see so many suspicious Haitians faces loitering in the barrio where there were only a few Haitians before the earthquake".
DAMN ETIENNE...
You are against your own people now????
Remember These names????
Nicolas ovando, Benedict Arnold,Alonso De Ojeda .
Do they sound familiar to you?????
Get a grip on yourself my friend.
Written by: cantave, 26 Feb 2010 6:12 PM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
"The pissed off haitians who wont be able to immigrate to the DR will start a revolution that would get that nation moving forward to job creation or the elite will die beaten by an angry mob of hungry zombies... "
CarlosFranco!!!
Here we go.
You are spewing some
racist,stereotypical,xenophobic rethorics again .
Be careful now!
Written by: riosm, 26 Feb 2010 6:14 PM
From: United States
As always........a little to late.
Written by: cantave, 26 Feb 2010 6:24 PM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
misshaiti!!!
Do not feel bad for your sintax errors.
I got a video for you.
Watch this!!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjYI9hxwD_4
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
Mr EtienneC
Sir are you familiar with the fable about the little ducklin who thought he was a chick. If not no need to research it,just look in the mirror.
PS how is that bleaching cream working for you. If only you could get rid of that Cap Haitian accent. At least you could claim ( ou pa on neg morn, ou pa on habitant).
Written by: cantave, 26 Feb 2010 7:48 PM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
Etienne c
That little ducklin got itself beaked around my friend.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
Oh wow I forgot how to spell that word okay point takin. I didn't make up a word either? If so where? And cantave I'm just gonna ignore you. Peace people!
Written by: riosm, 26 Feb 2010 9:49 PM
From: United States
MissHaiti,
Criminals are criminals period, they pray on the weak, confused, destitute, hungry, hopeless and helpless, like they do in Cuba & Venezuela just ask Belial an expert on such matters.
Just think if Haiti is to have a future all criminals must be re-arrested and jailed at all cost, like they do in Cuba & Venezuela minus the fare trials.
While just this morning I read a report of an Haitian-American who was shot numerous times in the back by a Haitian all while protecting his property in Haiti.
From: United States
missHaiti, you are a good sport ,you handled it better than most of these maniaticos mamaguevos here.
cantave, cantave, cantave THE PRAGMATIC IRAK WORRIOR
I can see that you have not read my prior posts, I have established myself as someone who feels that the Dominican Republic IS an independent country with its own constitution, immigration laws and quotas.
I beg to disagree with you and many of the other Haitians who think the DR is an estern province of Haiti and Haitians can enter the country whenever they please,settle down in a whatever barrios , loiter in public paks, crowd the hospitals, kill and harrass Dominicans,settle up business alongside Dominicans, speak Creole loudly.
When they are reminded that they are not in their country, the spit the name of Nicolas Ovando and what have you,one of the tactics of blackmailers (magouye)
On Frebruary the 27th, Dominicans will celebrate their independence from Haiti and the birth of their nation.
From: United States
cantave
February 27. 1844 Dominican Republic gains independence from Haiti.
Yes you read me well.
Independence is the self - government of a nation by its residents and population generally exercising sovereignty.
Written by: cantave, 26 Feb 2010 10:41 PM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
Etienne!!!!
Do not demonised haiti
They have help the Dominican also.
Look!!
In 1861, after imprisoning, silencing, exiling, and executing many of his opponents and due to political and economic reasons, Santana signed a pact with the Spanish Crown and reverted the Dominican nation to colonial status, the only Latin American country to do so. His ostensible aim was to protect the nation from another Haitian annexation. But opponents launched the War of the Restoration in 1863, led by Santiago Rodríguez, Benito Monción, and Gregorio Luperón, among others. Haiti, fearful of the re-establishment of Spain as colonial power on its border, gave refuge and supplies to the revolutionaries. After two years of fighting, Spain abandoned the island in 1865.
See!!
From: United States
cantave, what I have been trying to say is that the Dominican Republic is not an estern province of Haiti.
Haitians need to apply and obtain a visa to stay the country,
They should leave when their visa expires
Written by: cantave, 27 Feb 2010 1:01 AM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
Etienne!
I agree 100%
But we need not to promote a perpetual hatred among Haitians and Dominicans.
This got to stop.
We intellectuals Knows that genocide comes from simple xenophobic rethorics.
Yes my friend!!
If you Doubt it
look!!
Germans and Jews,Hutus and Tutsys,Suni and Shiites and so on.
Us insland Hoppers do not want to go that route.
Let us tone down the rethorics.
The sky is not falling and will never fall.
You are a little weak but I like you Etienne.
There was too much greed in the past, and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
That is Haiti's main problem.
From: Germany, Stuttgart
A little late for this, no?
From: United States
cantave,
the love, care, and the compassion that Dominicans have demonstraded for the past month toward Haitans must force tthem to be objectice and unlearn their historical passion to hate Dominicans.
The pragmatic , mature leadership and adult supersvision that Leonel Fernadez has demonstrated during the tragedy that had rocked Haiti must inspire Haitians to understand the well founded concerns of regular Dominicans
They can not feed themselves and Haitians at the same time .This is what creates the historical conflicts and frictions
The DR can not be an escape route for Haitians when the turbulent , greedy, selfish teenagers that are running Haiti team up to destroy the country and make it unliveable for Haitians
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
I know there suppost to be arrested. I am not that dumb. Anywho just because someone's the same nationality as me I dont think they shouldn't go to jail. If you did the crime you have to do the time. Someday i'll be the president of Haiti and i'll make everything better again hopefully. Unlike that president they have now who has issues god bless you guys have a good night.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
I never knew DR got its independance today? Wow how nice. Wait while haitians were in charge of dominicans they didn't harm them. Or do anything mean. What do you people think?
Written by: kmnupe, 28 Feb 2010 12:21 AM
From: United States, NYC
Although I understand where PatDiamond and Cantave are coming from, I don't totally disagree with Etienne.
What he says may not be politically correct, but, his views are not necessarily incorrect.
From: United States
missHaiti,
"make things better again '
make things better again, you said ?
The present situation is the result of the accumulation of things that have never been good.
Sister , you must be reading the wrong history book, Haiti has always been just the way it is now,
mismanaged, abused,taumatized, dilapidated,misused,and abandonned.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
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From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
My bad my labtop had some issues. Okay I do realize the only good thing that happened to Haiti was its independance. I just want to make it a better way better place than it already is. As soon as I'm old enough I will be president! Hopefully. Have a nice day people.
Written by: kreyol, 1 Mar 2010 1:13 PM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
Hellborn25, did the United States put army tanks and electric fences to stop you or your parents entered the US.
Yes we need to catch the criminals, but we need to help the people that need help.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
Preach it my brotha!! And you in Texas?
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
Hellborn25, did the United States put army tanks and electric fences to stop you or your parents entered the US.
Yes we need to catch the criminals, but we need to help the people that need help.
No my parents did it the legal way they boarded a plane and when to america, they like it so much they decided to stay so they when to imigration and follow the proper procedures to get a green card and then they became us citizens. unlike you bleeding liberals who support illegal imigrants, welfare and socialist views. I believe in doing things the right way without breaking laws . if haitians want to come to the dominican republic for a better life , then do it the right way dont break the law dont migrate illegaly and by the way you guys sound like idiots supporting 2,000 haitian criminals to illegaly cross the border ?
Written by: riosm, 2 Mar 2010 12:39 AM
From: United States
HellBorn25,
Thank you, very well put.......
You spoke for myself and Millions living in America today.
Kreyol,
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HELPING THOSE TO HELP THEM SELVES ! in others words being self dependent..........never mind who got them there in the first place.
I'll let Belial answer that one.......
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
By the way why's your name hellborn?
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
But hellborn 25 you never said illegal. You just said immagrants if you had put illegal immagrants infront of it, it would make a little more sense. Haitians dont always enter places illegally. The ones who do that are the desperate ones who really need to think before they act. My mamma didnt come to america illegally. Neither did anyone I know for that matter.
Written by: kreyol, 2 Mar 2010 11:22 AM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
Hellborn25,
You are the one that sounded like an idiot, an uneducated pig. No one said anything about letting 2,000 criminals cross the border into DR.
What do you know about Liberals??? I am pretty sure welfare and socialist views did well for your parents and especially for you.
If you want to have an intelligent discussion about what’s going on feel free to come back at me.
Written by: kreyol, 2 Mar 2010 11:55 AM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
Yes misshaiti, I am in Dallas, TX.
Written by: kreyol, 2 Mar 2010 11:55 AM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
Riosm, are you talking about as a country or person?
Either or, If all of us were saying “WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HELPING THOSE TO HELP THEMSELVES” our world would not be what it is today my friend. You think the Haitian people don’t help themselves? They do my friend, they just have been unfortunate. DR never was self dependent and still not is.
You and I might be self dependent now, but we were not always self dependent. At a point in our lives we needed someone help. That is where the Haitians are right now. They don’t need hand outs like they have always been giving, they need real help.
Written by: riosm, 2 Mar 2010 12:55 PM
From: United States
Kreyol,
As far as the Haitians being unfortunate.....YES ! we can both agree the Haitian Gov has dealt the Haitian People a raw deal.
But consider, a large % of skilled Haitian workers jumped the border into the DR post quake which could have a negative economic impact on the DR.
Other then GIVING Haitian aide where's the incentive to help the Haitians re-build there own Country ?
Haitians could start by planting there own food [now that a large % of forest have cleared, perfect for farming] Haiti has many skilled laborers in construction, are you kidding me ! what ever happened to "Where there's a will, there's a way", "Necessity is the Mother of invention".
As far as being "self dependent"......You and I are living examples, if we were helped we took advantage. The Haitians have been DEPENDENT for how many years ?
I'll repeat....."Give a Man fish he'll eat for a day becoming DEPENDENT, Teach a Man to fish he'll eat everyday thus becoming SELF DEPENDENT"
Written by: riosm, 2 Mar 2010 1:09 PM
From: United States
Kreyol,
part -2
Haiti has plenty of natural resources at it's disposal.
Haiti has a large working force.
Haiti has been low for so long the way out, is UP !
Haitians needs a mass douse of NATIONAL PRIDE, that can only come from within.
Haitians must show the world Haiti they can do it, FOR THEM SELVES !
The world can pump BILLIONS $$ more, but in the end it's up to the Haitian People to choose their OWN DESTINY.
Maybe what the Haitians really NEED and LACK is GANAS.
I TRULY BELIEVE THE HAITIANS CAN !
Take care Brother.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
ms haiti did you even bother to read the article or are you so blinded by your liberal agenda . It says
dominican Government heightened security along its border with Haiti, to prevent the entry of a group of more than 2,000 convicts of Haitian and other nationalities, who fled Port-au-Prince jails in the wake of the January 12 quake ms haiti i dont think think runaway convicts are gonna have a passport in hands when they cross the border , theere runaway criminals remember ? whats up with this kreyol crayola guy calling me a pig? welfare and socilist views did well for my parents you say , speak for yourself my family does not believe in handouts unlike you rev al sharpton . Iam glad to say i have never been on welfare or session eight housing like problably yourself . you are a haitian with and agenda by the way we gotta alot of them here so welcome my socialist commie bastard friend.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
thanks comrade riosm glad to see there still some people that stand for conservative values
Written by: riosm, 2 Mar 2010 6:22 PM
From: United States
Hellborn25,
Why thank you, I my self or any one in my Family members has never been on any Social program.
My Father and Mother came to America from the DR believing in the American dream, they worked hard and earned it, I'll be darn if any body who thinks of the idea of spreading the wealth and leveling the playing field by taking away from those who earned it......They should do like the rest.......WORK HARD & EARN IT !
Most liberals believe the Gov. has the right and responsibility to take care of it's citizens.........that's because most Liberals can't think or take care of them selves, LIBERALS ARE ALWAYS THE CRUSADERS ON THE WRONG SIDE.
I say Bull Sh**. I am as CONSERVATIVE as they come, I believe in the free market where anybody threw hard work can make it......Work, WORKS.
Real change comes in 2012, the America-Latinos will swing the vote, they need to fall back on there Principles and Family Values.
I'm also a 9-12'er.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
No my mom hates when people take care of her instead of her doing it for herself. Which is why we were never on welfare, and also why she got a job 2 weeks after she entered the united states which was in 1995.Please don't critisize me or my family without knowing facts about us. We dont enter places illegally and we dont count on other peoples money to survive.
Written by: riosm, 2 Mar 2010 9:35 PM
From: United States
MissHaiti,
With every input you make on this site you make me realize what a fine Human being your becoming. Stay strong and I hope you overcome any obstacles put in your way / path.
Remember.......when faced with an obstacle on your road to your destiny do what I was taught as a Child years go.......go around, go over, and if need be go under and continue your path.
Ever notice a 100 yard hurdler........he anticipates the hurdle and paces himself and at the right slit second before encountering the hurdle he slows down and leaps, but once he clears the hurdle and lands he gains much more speed..........so is life.
Haiti needs YOU know more then ever ! who knows one day you might be known be as President MissHaiti.
Best of luck on your future endeavors.
DON'T LET OTHERS DO FOR YOU, WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOURSELF.
Take care and GOD bless.
Written by: kreyol, 2 Mar 2010 9:41 PM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
riosm my friend,
I understand your point about the skilled Haitians workers that left and went to DR. If you take a look at the situation within, you cannot really blame them. I truly believe if these folks have the support and help they need from the Haitian GOV, the country would be better. They have done it before.
Haitian people have the will to be self dependent, but I believe that chance was taking away from them by corrupt Gov.
You can be skilled and have the will to work, but if you don’t have your own GOV support you are not going to succeed...................
Written by: kreyol, 2 Mar 2010 9:42 PM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
@ Riosm,
You said “Haitians could start by planting their own food and now that a large % of forest have cleared, perfect for farming”
I wish that was a reality my friend. Haiti’s agriculture has been destroyed since the 1980 my friend by a number of actions supported by the Haitian Government for their own benefit.
Yes we have the land, but not the means for production. YOU are right, farming could sustain most of the country, but give the peasants the chance to do it is another story. The peasants are in needed water, seed, fertilizer, insecticide……… Instead the international community gave them food aid which destroyed the AGRICULTURE MORE.
I am not trying to point fingers at any other nations, but Haiti is where it is today is not because of the Haitian folks are lazy and they do not want to be self dependent. The advantage you and I are talking has never been given to the Haitian folks. Maybe the Haitian GOV, but not the people.
.........
Written by: kreyol, 2 Mar 2010 9:46 PM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
@ Riosm,
I believe the Haitian people can also, but we need to keep the Gov under the microscope. If we don’t, they are going to take all these money and run.
Written by: kreyol, 2 Mar 2010 10:00 PM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
Hellborn25,
The name is Kreyol. That’s Creole in Haitian Creole. Yes, I am Haitian. An educated Haitian-American who stands on the wall to protect the American Dream and the freedom you are enjoying.
Again, if you want to have intelligent debates and talk about the facts I am well open for that. If you have your petty talk please address them to someone else.
Written by: kreyol, 2 Mar 2010 10:21 PM
From: United States, Dallas, TX
Oh by the way Hellborn25, I am also half Dominican.
Written by: riosm, 2 Mar 2010 11:05 PM
From: United States
Kreyol,
THANK YOU, You nailed it......maybe with a newly FREE elected Government for the future of HAITI.
Take care my fiend.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
Kreyol you half dominican too? Wow I'm not even going to say whats all up in my mind right now.
From: Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
By the way I just emailed you. Haha! I do keep my word.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
Again, if you want to have intelligent debates and talk about the facts I am well open for that. If you have your petty talk please address them to someone else.
kreyol having and intelligent conversation with you thats imposible when your gonna play the race card with me all the time. dumb asses like you I wouldt even bother debating with you and ms haiti are two baffons who are not worth my time. You are just gonna make it a haiti vrs dominican republic debate all the time, your argument is that the haitians need food clothes and shelter instead of being deported or treated bad ? first of all the haitians problems are not the problems of the dominican republic, let the haitian government handle that . oh forgot the haitian government never does anything to help there own people, they rather robbed them blind . You problably want a large a mass exodus of haitians to come the dominican republic typical liberal mentality always finding the coward ways out.
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Does this mean that extra effort will be made to prevent only these people from entering illegaly. The normal 10,000 illegals per day will still be allowed to enter at will, but these 2000 will be prevented from entering? I am not sure I understand what the immigration director is saying, other than, "Hey look at me, I'm making an announcement."
Hellborn aren't immagrants people who go to a country which they were not born in to settle? Dont you mean illegal immigrant? You also spelled it wrong. lol
Why isn't Haiti spelled with a capital H ?
"changed what they look like" Is that English ?
Great God missHaiti. your grammar, vocabulary, syntax need a lot of fixing .
Write to me at : habie1212@yahoo.ca. I also live in Orlando and I may be able to help out my fellow Orlandoans ( I made up that word just like you did )
Better send out a red alert to Kellogs ! These mules are going to need all the Cheerios they can get . HEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAW
Last time I stayed at my house in Puerto Plata , I was shocked to see so many suspicious Haitians faces loitering in the barrio where there were only a few Haitians before the earthquake.
This had became the talk of concerned families.
A friend informed me that he rented a room to a Haitian familiy of three(wife , husband ,and daughter) just to find out that there were 8 more people sleeping in the house at night.
Althought he felt for them but he could not affort to have 11 people living a room.
Haitian leaders should start acting like grownups and provide for their poeple so they do not become a public nuisance for another country
The Colombians have nothing to worry about....Just head to SD
As for the Pakistanis, Indians and others...Steal a Yola and sail S/SE to the BVI's....
DAMN ETIENNE... That last comment was mind blowing... I am starting to like you... hmmm... nah!
GOOD JOB BUDDY!
Increase CESFRONT by 10,000 men... to properly guard our border... Take them from the Army, whom have no enemies to fight and are just there collecting a check.... If done so it would help the DR in the following ways
1. The army would be put to good use [not abusing the populance]
2. Haitians would stop coming in to use our resources and facilities
3. Lower income Dominican wages will increase due to the lack of Haitians presence
4. Domincans will no longer will need to go abroad for a liveable wage
5. The pissed off haitians who wont be able to immigrate to the DR will start a revolution that would get that nation moving forward to job creation or the elite will die beaten by an angry mob of hungry zombies...
"I was shocked to see so many suspicious Haitians faces loitering in the barrio where there were only a few Haitians before the earthquake".
DAMN ETIENNE...
You are against your own people now????
Remember These names????
Nicolas ovando, Benedict Arnold,Alonso De Ojeda .
Do they sound familiar to you?????
Get a grip on yourself my friend.
CarlosFranco!!!
Here we go.
You are spewing some
racist,stereotypical,xenophobic rethorics again .
Be careful now!
Do not feel bad for your sintax errors.
I got a video for you.
Watch this!!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjYI9hxwD_4
Sir are you familiar with the fable about the little ducklin who thought he was a chick. If not no need to research it,just look in the mirror.
PS how is that bleaching cream working for you. If only you could get rid of that Cap Haitian accent. At least you could claim ( ou pa on neg morn, ou pa on habitant).
Etienne c
That little ducklin got itself beaked around my friend.
Criminals are criminals period, they pray on the weak, confused, destitute, hungry, hopeless and helpless, like they do in Cuba & Venezuela just ask Belial an expert on such matters.
Just think if Haiti is to have a future all criminals must be re-arrested and jailed at all cost, like they do in Cuba & Venezuela minus the fare trials.
While just this morning I read a report of an Haitian-American who was shot numerous times in the back by a Haitian all while protecting his property in Haiti.
cantave, cantave, cantave THE PRAGMATIC IRAK WORRIOR
I can see that you have not read my prior posts, I have established myself as someone who feels that the Dominican Republic IS an independent country with its own constitution, immigration laws and quotas.
I beg to disagree with you and many of the other Haitians who think the DR is an estern province of Haiti and Haitians can enter the country whenever they please,settle down in a whatever barrios , loiter in public paks, crowd the hospitals, kill and harrass Dominicans,settle up business alongside Dominicans, speak Creole loudly.
When they are reminded that they are not in their country, the spit the name of Nicolas Ovando and what have you,one of the tactics of blackmailers (magouye)
On Frebruary the 27th, Dominicans will celebrate their independence from Haiti and the birth of their nation.
February 27. 1844 Dominican Republic gains independence from Haiti.
Yes you read me well.
Independence is the self - government of a nation by its residents and population generally exercising sovereignty.
Do not demonised haiti
They have help the Dominican also.
Look!!
In 1861, after imprisoning, silencing, exiling, and executing many of his opponents and due to political and economic reasons, Santana signed a pact with the Spanish Crown and reverted the Dominican nation to colonial status, the only Latin American country to do so. His ostensible aim was to protect the nation from another Haitian annexation. But opponents launched the War of the Restoration in 1863, led by Santiago Rodríguez, Benito Monción, and Gregorio Luperón, among others. Haiti, fearful of the re-establishment of Spain as colonial power on its border, gave refuge and supplies to the revolutionaries. After two years of fighting, Spain abandoned the island in 1865.
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Haitians need to apply and obtain a visa to stay the country,
They should leave when their visa expires
I agree 100%
But we need not to promote a perpetual hatred among Haitians and Dominicans.
This got to stop.
We intellectuals Knows that genocide comes from simple xenophobic rethorics.
Yes my friend!!
If you Doubt it
look!!
Germans and Jews,Hutus and Tutsys,Suni and Shiites and so on.
Us insland Hoppers do not want to go that route.
Let us tone down the rethorics.
The sky is not falling and will never fall.
You are a little weak but I like you Etienne.
There was too much greed in the past, and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
That is Haiti's main problem.
the love, care, and the compassion that Dominicans have demonstraded for the past month toward Haitans must force tthem to be objectice and unlearn their historical passion to hate Dominicans.
The pragmatic , mature leadership and adult supersvision that Leonel Fernadez has demonstrated during the tragedy that had rocked Haiti must inspire Haitians to understand the well founded concerns of regular Dominicans
They can not feed themselves and Haitians at the same time .This is what creates the historical conflicts and frictions
The DR can not be an escape route for Haitians when the turbulent , greedy, selfish teenagers that are running Haiti team up to destroy the country and make it unliveable for Haitians
What he says may not be politically correct, but, his views are not necessarily incorrect.
"make things better again '
make things better again, you said ?
The present situation is the result of the accumulation of things that have never been good.
Sister , you must be reading the wrong history book, Haiti has always been just the way it is now,
mismanaged, abused,taumatized, dilapidated,misused,and abandonned.
Yes we need to catch the criminals, but we need to help the people that need help.
Yes we need to catch the criminals, but we need to help the people that need help.
No my parents did it the legal way they boarded a plane and when to america, they like it so much they decided to stay so they when to imigration and follow the proper procedures to get a green card and then they became us citizens. unlike you bleeding liberals who support illegal imigrants, welfare and socialist views. I believe in doing things the right way without breaking laws . if haitians want to come to the dominican republic for a better life , then do it the right way dont break the law dont migrate illegaly and by the way you guys sound like idiots supporting 2,000 haitian criminals to illegaly cross the border ?
Thank you, very well put.......
You spoke for myself and Millions living in America today.
Kreyol,
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HELPING THOSE TO HELP THEM SELVES ! in others words being self dependent..........never mind who got them there in the first place.
I'll let Belial answer that one.......
You are the one that sounded like an idiot, an uneducated pig. No one said anything about letting 2,000 criminals cross the border into DR.
What do you know about Liberals??? I am pretty sure welfare and socialist views did well for your parents and especially for you.
If you want to have an intelligent discussion about what’s going on feel free to come back at me.
Either or, If all of us were saying “WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HELPING THOSE TO HELP THEMSELVES” our world would not be what it is today my friend. You think the Haitian people don’t help themselves? They do my friend, they just have been unfortunate. DR never was self dependent and still not is.
You and I might be self dependent now, but we were not always self dependent. At a point in our lives we needed someone help. That is where the Haitians are right now. They don’t need hand outs like they have always been giving, they need real help.
As far as the Haitians being unfortunate.....YES ! we can both agree the Haitian Gov has dealt the Haitian People a raw deal.
But consider, a large % of skilled Haitian workers jumped the border into the DR post quake which could have a negative economic impact on the DR.
Other then GIVING Haitian aide where's the incentive to help the Haitians re-build there own Country ?
Haitians could start by planting there own food [now that a large % of forest have cleared, perfect for farming] Haiti has many skilled laborers in construction, are you kidding me ! what ever happened to "Where there's a will, there's a way", "Necessity is the Mother of invention".
As far as being "self dependent"......You and I are living examples, if we were helped we took advantage. The Haitians have been DEPENDENT for how many years ?
I'll repeat....."Give a Man fish he'll eat for a day becoming DEPENDENT, Teach a Man to fish he'll eat everyday thus becoming SELF DEPENDENT"
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Haiti has plenty of natural resources at it's disposal.
Haiti has a large working force.
Haiti has been low for so long the way out, is UP !
Haitians needs a mass douse of NATIONAL PRIDE, that can only come from within.
Haitians must show the world Haiti they can do it, FOR THEM SELVES !
The world can pump BILLIONS $$ more, but in the end it's up to the Haitian People to choose their OWN DESTINY.
Maybe what the Haitians really NEED and LACK is GANAS.
I TRULY BELIEVE THE HAITIANS CAN !
Take care Brother.
dominican Government heightened security along its border with Haiti, to prevent the entry of a group of more than 2,000 convicts of Haitian and other nationalities, who fled Port-au-Prince jails in the wake of the January 12 quake ms haiti i dont think think runaway convicts are gonna have a passport in hands when they cross the border , theere runaway criminals remember ? whats up with this kreyol crayola guy calling me a pig? welfare and socilist views did well for my parents you say , speak for yourself my family does not believe in handouts unlike you rev al sharpton . Iam glad to say i have never been on welfare or session eight housing like problably yourself . you are a haitian with and agenda by the way we gotta alot of them here so welcome my socialist commie bastard friend.
Why thank you, I my self or any one in my Family members has never been on any Social program.
My Father and Mother came to America from the DR believing in the American dream, they worked hard and earned it, I'll be darn if any body who thinks of the idea of spreading the wealth and leveling the playing field by taking away from those who earned it......They should do like the rest.......WORK HARD & EARN IT !
Most liberals believe the Gov. has the right and responsibility to take care of it's citizens.........that's because most Liberals can't think or take care of them selves, LIBERALS ARE ALWAYS THE CRUSADERS ON THE WRONG SIDE.
I say Bull Sh**. I am as CONSERVATIVE as they come, I believe in the free market where anybody threw hard work can make it......Work, WORKS.
Real change comes in 2012, the America-Latinos will swing the vote, they need to fall back on there Principles and Family Values.
I'm also a 9-12'er.
With every input you make on this site you make me realize what a fine Human being your becoming. Stay strong and I hope you overcome any obstacles put in your way / path.
Remember.......when faced with an obstacle on your road to your destiny do what I was taught as a Child years go.......go around, go over, and if need be go under and continue your path.
Ever notice a 100 yard hurdler........he anticipates the hurdle and paces himself and at the right slit second before encountering the hurdle he slows down and leaps, but once he clears the hurdle and lands he gains much more speed..........so is life.
Haiti needs YOU know more then ever ! who knows one day you might be known be as President MissHaiti.
Best of luck on your future endeavors.
DON'T LET OTHERS DO FOR YOU, WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOURSELF.
Take care and GOD bless.
I understand your point about the skilled Haitians workers that left and went to DR. If you take a look at the situation within, you cannot really blame them. I truly believe if these folks have the support and help they need from the Haitian GOV, the country would be better. They have done it before.
Haitian people have the will to be self dependent, but I believe that chance was taking away from them by corrupt Gov.
You can be skilled and have the will to work, but if you don’t have your own GOV support you are not going to succeed...................
You said “Haitians could start by planting their own food and now that a large % of forest have cleared, perfect for farming”
I wish that was a reality my friend. Haiti’s agriculture has been destroyed since the 1980 my friend by a number of actions supported by the Haitian Government for their own benefit.
Yes we have the land, but not the means for production. YOU are right, farming could sustain most of the country, but give the peasants the chance to do it is another story. The peasants are in needed water, seed, fertilizer, insecticide……… Instead the international community gave them food aid which destroyed the AGRICULTURE MORE.
I am not trying to point fingers at any other nations, but Haiti is where it is today is not because of the Haitian folks are lazy and they do not want to be self dependent. The advantage you and I are talking has never been given to the Haitian folks. Maybe the Haitian GOV, but not the people.
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I believe the Haitian people can also, but we need to keep the Gov under the microscope. If we don’t, they are going to take all these money and run.
The name is Kreyol. That’s Creole in Haitian Creole. Yes, I am Haitian. An educated Haitian-American who stands on the wall to protect the American Dream and the freedom you are enjoying.
Again, if you want to have intelligent debates and talk about the facts I am well open for that. If you have your petty talk please address them to someone else.
THANK YOU, You nailed it......maybe with a newly FREE elected Government for the future of HAITI.
Take care my fiend.
kreyol having and intelligent conversation with you thats imposible when your gonna play the race card with me all the time. dumb asses like you I wouldt even bother debating with you and ms haiti are two baffons who are not worth my time. You are just gonna make it a haiti vrs dominican republic debate all the time, your argument is that the haitians need food clothes and shelter instead of being deported or treated bad ? first of all the haitians problems are not the problems of the dominican republic, let the haitian government handle that . oh forgot the haitian government never does anything to help there own people, they rather robbed them blind . You problably want a large a mass exodus of haitians to come the dominican republic typical liberal mentality always finding the coward ways out.