.............and 3,000,000 illegals!

Josean said: "Prove it!"

Just take a trip to Santo Domingo and walk through the main avenues (27 de febrero, Winston Churchill et al.) at rush hour. You'd be shocked at the amount of haitian beggars (mainly women and children) that you will find here. In Santiago the situation is much worse.

If you're a beach fan, go to Sosua. It has become apparent in recent weeks the insurge of hatian refugees showing up on the streets over there. Dressed poorly, most without any form of footwear and ripped clothes, I see locals and tourists concerned for their own safety by avoiding popular areas such as Pedro Clisante and indeed the main street near to Banco Popular.

(cont..)

(cont...)

I believe that by encouraging them to beg or by giving them "hand-outs" this will do nothing to solve the problem of having them on the streets and indeed encourage their relatives and friends to join them in the town.

It's only a matter of time before mugging and burglary start to increase at a time when Sosua needs all the good publicity it can get following recent incidents that include kidnapping.
What's the solution, genius?

No, you stop the PC drivel for once. You haven't exactly answered my question, what's the solution, genius? And no, those "best families" don't speak for the rest of us, the citizens on foot, which are importuned every day by those famine stricken mobs. A touristic country can't allow itself the luxury of having throngs of beggars pursuing everyone on sight without suffering some serious setbacks in the process, or dying a slow but painful economic death if nothing is done to solve the issue.

Lautoro,

Thanks, even the town where my mother grew up in Santiago where there was not black people around is now invaded by illegals alliens from Haiti.

this from Ms Jersey

Thanks, even the town where my mother grew up in Santiago where there was not black people around is now invaded by illegals alliens from Haiti.

can someone medicate this primitive, please?

By your name I can figure who you are Mr/Ms Dread afro buddy!

Keep fighting the good fight with the rest of your afro crew.

MS Jersey, you really should take time to pause before posting some of the rubbish you do. one suggestion is that you should not post under time constraints. should you have a fear of the boss catching you blogging on the job, then wait till you get home. haste makes waste. in your case, a waste of broadband. think before you hit the ¨post comment ¨key. get some intelligent friend, if you have any, to edit your comments. but please, do not make yourself look so asinine before the world. try to keep your ignorance a more closely guarded secret.

Buddy,

Whatever I say, I do without fear, Im sick of people like you, calling others ignorant just because I disagree with your kind, Mr/Ms intellectual, if you can take punches, don't say anything, and start calling names, grow some balls if you don't have any, this is not for wimps, or go back to everythinghaitian.com perhaps they would agree with your posting on that site.

i do not call you ignorant because you disagree with me. i call you ignorant because you are. i have posted extensively on the undesirable consequences of unfettered Haitian incursion into the DR, both the economic and social displacements which will result. i have also laid some of the blame where it belongs, upon disgraceful businessmen here, who seek to enrich themselves from the benefits of virtual slave labor. i have tried to do this in a purely social scientific fashion, commenting only on the realities. therefore, when medievals such as yourself make counterintuitive and neanderthal remarks, i feel a compulsion to excoriate their nonsense. instead of suggesting that i go to haitians .com, maybe you should go seek out some kindergarten website where your commentary would be more befitting of the 8 to 10 age group.

besides, MS Jersey, there are no punches coming from you, at least, not at me. if anything, you are inflicting all damages upon yourself. you are the one who ends up looking silly, resorting to sixth grade tirades to make a point. try school sometime. it helps.

Hey,

You so smart, you can't figure out that Haitians come to DR on their on free will, perhaps you should advocate for them back home where the whole problem takes roots, you so smart you can figure that out? Hypothetically speaking, if you own a company, and a position for a job with two applicant, one Hatian, one Dominican, and the Haitian is gonna cost you half for the same job, same result, you hire the Dominican, right? I don't think so.
You too smart for this forum, leave it to dumb Dominicans like me and the rest of the 5th grader.

actually,l just about everyone who moves from one country to another does it on their own free will, since a country generally does not deport its own citizens. so, you get no brownie points for that revelation. secondly, they generally move to other countries or regions for economic reasons. some have other motivations, such as climate, but that is more insignificant. finally, gratefully, the forum also boasts several highly intelligent Dominicans, who make comments i learn from on a daily basis. the fact that YOU are dumb is peripheral to the issue.

Count the Haitians to give us the true figures

Carlos, as a bright guy, maybe you can tell me how you can conduct a census in two days. or, even in a week.

time to get ready for mass deportation!!!

Thanks, go on now boy.

All Black people in the Dominican Republic are NOT Haitians, you guys disgust me. Jesus, what do you think happened to all of the slaves in the Dominican Republic? That they just dissappeared?

Bonao,

That's a great point, but according to the Haitian crew, there was not african slaves in DR, they just disappear, and that every dark-skin Dominican is a Haitian.
I made a comment about the town where my mother grew up, where there was not people of color, which by the way is a fact, and I took a beating from the afro crew, as a matter of fact, I was there in 2007 and the only people of color in this town are the Haitian that work the field, the rest are Dominican families that know each other and have been there since their ancestors came from Spain.
I don't have a problem with people of color, or Haitians for that matter, but if they have a anti-Dominican agenda then that's a problem. One thing is human right, the other is a propaganda to discredit a whole nation, that's where 2 and 2 don't add up.
We have an open border, we provide free medical care for the Haitians, they get jobs without the proper documents, and all we get is a beating from everybody.
Back to my 5th.

Dread... I wouldn't know what to say, I don't remember the census in the DR... At least we can get a sound estimate; with the tragedy of that nation next to ours, I don't believe the current estimation that there are only 1,000,000 Haitians in the country... I have been hearing that for 10 years now and those numbers have not fluctuated, which is why I don’t believe what the government says, since they aren’t ready or unwilling to take action against the problem!

Maybe I missed the point of your question...

I agree with lautaro, there are to many illegal haitians in teh Dominican republic and they are eevry where begging you for money especially women children and sometimes they make thier children beg so that we can have simpathy and give them donations. i know we all people, no matter black or white or asian but i feel as if the haitians should stay in their side of hispaniola becuase they are just invading the country and multiplying like rabbits in a breeding cage and the yhave this mentality that the Dominican republic is thiers. The yare always bad talking Dominicans and teh Dominican republic but yet the ystill enter the country by the thousands. Honestly the Dominican government needs to do something about the haitian population in d.r.

Jersey - Black people have always been in El Cibao, look at the big cities like Santiago, La Vega, Bonao etc. whites are only in the campos. the only reason el cibao is getting blacker is because the white and light skinned mulatto cibaenos are mixing with the dark skinned mulattos.

Im from the campo boddy.

I'm Just sick n tired of people defending this ilegals invaders. Just keep letting things happen as the way it is right now and few years from now this website will change the name to (hatianstoday.com) I don't understand why the goverment don't deport all this freaking people they not belong to this country!!...

Dee82, the gov't is being hypnotize by foreign money specially the American imperialist. We need to keep protesting to the government until they change immigration policies and secure the border in a better way.

hahahah u right Dee82, few years from now we will be calling thsi site haitian today not dominican today

Come on now back to class 5th graders, before the Professor beats you up, don't say stuff like that you gonna get the Haitians mad, ssshhh! quiet children let them take over don't say anything, if you say something is racism, quiet!

"even the town where my mother grew up in Santiago where there was not black people around is now invaded by illegals alliens from Haiti."

Once in a while the racist TRUTH comes out; ‘there was not black people around!”

The issue is about the Haitians being BLACK if we were being “silently invaded” by Norwegians you would be washing their feet!

10,000,000 =9,500,000 undereducated, in dilapidated housing, lousy hospitals, who can't enjoy there own beaches; while 500,000 live more or less parasitically of the majority.

Lautario

Reading your post the problem of illegal Haitian migration in DR seems to be getting really out of control ,now tell me.Why is that your government seems to be def to this issue. Judging by your post it should not be a problem for your equivalent of ICE in America to do like their American counterparts do some times in LA and Miami just round up the wet backs.You are a sovereign nation and clearly have the right to defend your territory against illegal migration. clearly they should be as visible to the authorities as their are to you?

Thing is, Pat, is that like in the case of those american vigilante novels, the "authorities" are also a part of the problem. I fear that it will all come down to the people taking the authorities' role into their own hands, which in underdeveloped countries like ours traduces itself in mob justice. It seems that everything will end up in tears for all the parties involved.

My eyesight seems to be bothering me tonight!

Written by: etiennc01, 13 Mar 2010 11:05 AM
From: United States

ms-jersey por favor,
Take sometime off !

Las baterias del inversor estan viejas!

Written by: josean, 13 Mar 2010 7:11 PM
From: United States

10,000,000 =9,500,000 undereducated, in dilapidated housing, lousy hospitals, who can't enjoy there own beaches; while 500,000 live more or less parasitically of the majority.

Anybody got a flashlight!

Written by: josean, 13 Mar 2010 11:22 AM
From: United States

No immigrants are allowed in ANY country of the world, LEGAL or Illegal, without the host country benefiting!

So please stop the victim rhetoric! Cheap Mexican labor has made many in the United States rich, just as Super Cheap Haitian Labor is responsible for the wealth of many, many Dominicans of the “best families!”

When this census is published:


Will anybody believe it?

I wonder who the cowards are who are marking the comments down ?

Take a wild guess!

Those who can't DEBATE, so they rather ELIMINATE!

For those who love to suppress freedom of expression by marking down:

http://www.beaconforfreedom.org/about_project/history.html

A shorter article to match their level of short tolerance for different points of view!

A BRIEF AND IDIOSYNCRATIC HISTORY OF CENSORSHIP

http://www.thefileroom.org/publication/atkinshistory.html

Just take a trip to Santo Domingo and walk through the main avenues (27 de febrero, Winston Churchill et al.) at rush hour. You'd be shocked at the amount of haitian beggars (mainly women and children) that you will find here. In Santiago the situation is much worse.

If you're a beach fan, go to Sosua. It has become apparent in recent weeks the insurge of hatian refugees showing up on the streets over there. Dressed poorly, most without any form of footwear and ripped clothes, I see locals and tourists concerned for their own safety by avoiding popular areas such as Pedro Clisante and indeed the main street near to Banco Popular.

0000

Come to Puerto Rico, Washington Height, Florida .......... about 4,000,000 of them in the same situation. Especially in PR when they jump from the Yola, wet and battered !!!!!!!!

Perception said: "Come to Puerto Rico, Washington Height, Florida .......... about 4,000,000 of them in the same situation. Especially in PR when they jump from the Yola, wet and battered !!!!!!!!"

Dominicans aren't a 20% of the US population as the haitians are on this country, and I'm being pretty conservative on my estimates. Also, the US is the world's sole superpower, despite the crisis, while the DR is a third world country. Why is it that you bleeding heart liberals always like to compare both countries, when the difference between them is like the one between the ant and the elephant? Don't you have neurons enough to realize how retarded the comparison looks?

I always remember My Grand Fathers Said



"El Ladron juzga por su Condicion"

There's another one that my Grand Mothers used to said,

"El que de su falda corta de su nalga ensen'a"

Don't you have neurons enough to realize how retarded the comparison looks?


0000

Yes I have "Arian" neurons.

Y quien dijo que Los bones retardados podian hablar aqui... A tought this was Dominicantoday. No bumstoday. I don't understand the #1 parasite of the U.S talking nonsense here..

PatDiamond,
"should not be a problem for your equivalent of ICE in America to do like their American counterparts do some times in LA and Miami just round up the wet backs"
When are you going to learn that California; Utah; Nevada & Texas is land that the US stole from Mexico?

Percepcion,
"Come to Puerto Rico, Washington Height, Florida .......... about 4,000,000 of them in the same situation."

When did you run the census?
Can you answer this question for me, How many illegal Dominicans live in the US?
Do ou think the percentage of illegal Dominicans in the US is comparable to Illegal Haitians in the DR?

shelinoF

are you from TNT?

No ignoranceisbliss, i"m from teh Turks and Caicos Islands, thats' like 30 miles south east of the Bahamas and 35 miles north of teh dominican republic

Why is it a buch of immigrants doing the menial jobs in america trashing another group of immigrants. People move because of economic opportunities. MS Jersey spare us. Your own words shows the world what kind of person you are.

Illegal immigration is wrong but everyone knows who benefits from slave labor. Ms jersey are you in the us legally?

LOL. your writing style looks very familiar. Let me rephrase my question. Are you originally from TNT and moved to Turks and Caicos.

No i am not from TNT but i have visted TNT before, in 2004, port of spain but im origanally from the Turks and caicos Islands, my mother is from the Dominican Republic and my father is from the Turks and Caicos islands.

When are you going to learn that California; Utah; Nevada & Texas is land that the US stole from Mexico?

0000

Same as you "Mulato" from the native Tainos of la Hispaniola.

Did I miss something, the article was about the " Getting ready for the Census Count" not a problem with a particular group (Haitians) of people. Haitian people are part of the Dominican Republic population just like some Americans, Europeans and etc.

And tho many of you may not like it. Haitian people are married into lots of Dominican families and they do lots of hard work in and around the island that lazy Dominicans refuse to do.

I have also observed in my 4 year stay, THERE ARE MANY MORE POOR DOMINICAN BEGGARS ON THE STREETS OF D.R, THAN HAITIANS. I just don't think its a good thing when one race of people singles out another because of who they are. I wish we could stay on track WITH THE TOPIC MORE, when having an open discussion. Thanks

Josean said: ""10,000,000 =9,500,000 undereducated, in dilapidated housing, lousy hospitals, who can't enjoy there own beaches; while 500,000 live more or less parasitically of the majority.""

Yea, Haiti is F...!

Ms Jersey. You are a single cell troglodyte. We need to support the haitians, make them equal give them education and you can see how that problem of illegal immigrations will be solve. Maybe you think that you are white like more of the light skins in DR think, when you have a mix in your dominican blood. Or you family never link with a single person in Dr and you come from a pure Blue, Blond and white skin. If not not please shut that mouth before posting hating comment among people with dark skin and blackafro hair.

Celso when will the lights be restored:

Written by: josean, 13 Mar 2010 6:55 PM
From: United States
"And no, those "best families" don't speak for the rest of us,"


Oh really!


You now what Mr. MENSA, your right they don't, but their overwhelming wealth does!

That's why they will not allow the illegal immigration issue to be resolved!

It is not in their economic interest NOT to solve the problem!

We don't have to be Rocket Scientists like YOU to understand this simple economic model!

My cataracts seem to be getting worse!

Written by: josean, 13 Mar 2010 6:59 PM
From: United States

"even the town where my mother grew up in Santiago where there was not black people around is now invaded by illegals alliens from Haiti."

Once in a while the racist TRUTH comes out; ‘there was not black people around!”

The issue is about the Haitians being BLACK if we were being “silently invaded” by Norwegians you would be washing their feet!

MitaR, thanks for sparing me the effort searching for an appelation for MS Jersey. one poster even requested that he share his drugs. as my latin teacher used to remind ¨he who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool¨. so, in your eyes, he is a single cell troglodyte. to me , merely a fool.

You think the Census takers will vist NARCO TOWERS:

Dueño Torre Atiemar, esposa e hijos poseen cédulas dominicanas

Escrito por Noticias Telemicro

Domingo, 14 de Marzo de 2010 09:01

Uno de los propietarios de la Torre Atiemar, Arturo Del Tiempo Márques, quien está siendo investigado en su país natal por un alijo de 1,200 kilos de cocaína, obtuvo una cédula de identidad de la República Dominicana, al igual que varios miembros de su familia, entre ellos, su hijo, Arturo Del Tiempo Manzarbeitia, segundo dueño del proyecto.

Del Tiempo Márques posee el número de identidad 001-1749180-3, su hija Isabel del tiempo, posee la cédula dominicana 001-1842717-8, su esposa Isabel Mazarbeitia Jalon, el numeral 001-1749167-0 y su hijo, el segundo dueño de la edificación, Arturo del Tiempo Mazarbeitia, es portador de la cédula dominicana 001-1859579-2.

Continued:

Esta información fue revelada en un reportaje realizado por la periodista María Cristina Rodríguez en el programa Zona 5, que se transmite por Telemicro, canal 5.

De acuerdo a las declaraciones emitidas por un ciudadano que iba a adquirir uno de los apartamentos de la Torre Atiemar, y que se negó a revelar su nombre al ser entrevistado por Zona 5, entre los adquirientes de buena fe o no, que se sintieron atraídos por uno de los lujosos apartamentos se encuentran el cirujano plástico Héctor Cabral, Janet Rivera, del grupo Pedro A. Rivera, Jangle Marco Antonio Vásquez Rodríguez, propietario de las empresas Nativa y Credigás, quien pagó en dólares y al contado, Héctor Rodríguez Pimentel, actual director Instituto Agrario Dominicano y el periodista Guillermo Gómez, quien adquirió uno de los penthouse.

Supuestamente varios coroneles y otras figuras ligadas a la farándula y la comunicación, entre ellos un bachatero y un pelotero, obtuvieron también apartamentos.

Continued:

El segundo dueño de la Torre Atiemar, Marques Mazarbeitia daba fe de que la inversión era segura y confiable y mencionaba frecuentemente que el jefe de la policía, el general Rafael Guillermo Guzmán Fermín, había comprado uno de los apartamentos.

Los representantes del Banreservas llamaban con insistencia a los potenciales compradores, y el administrador del banco, Daniel Toribio, también aseguraba que los adquirientes no corrían riesgos al invertir su dinero en el proyecto.

El banco del Reservas financiaba el 85% a los adquirientes, de acuerdo a una de las copias de los contratos que fue obtenido por Zona 5.

Solo el pago por mantenimiento de uno de los apartamentos era de 30 mil pesos mensuales y los costos oscilaban entre un millón 300 mil y un millón 700 mil dólares.

continued:

De acuerdo al reportaje presentado por la comunicadora, María Cristina Rodríguez, Arturo del Tiempo Mazarbeitia, vástago del inversionista español, se paseaba por las calles de Santo Domingo en una Hummer negra, y promovía el proyecto visitando potenciales compradores junto al director de banca hipotecaria del Banco Banreseras, Ramón Minaya Báez, y a la gerente de préstamos hipotecarios de la misma entidad, Isabel Arias de Moquete.

Arturo Del Tiempo Márques además de un préstamo con el Banreservas por 13 millones 312 mil 721 dólares, también posee otras cuentas tanto en dólares como en pesos, en la entidad comercial.

Los préstamos y varias cuentas tanto en dólares como en peso de Arturo del Tiempo Márques con el Banreservas también están a nombre de las empresas Picasso Corporate Holdings LTD, Prado Universal Corporation y Picasso Investments S.A.

Según supo Zona 5, la cuenta del posible narcotraficante, fue eliminada de los registros informáticos de ese banco.

Continued:

Arturo del Tiempo Marques también tiene cuentas activas en dólares y pesos en el Banco Popular Dominicano y en el BDI y fue cliente del Banco del Progreso, de acuerdo a la investigación realizada por la periodista María Cristina Rodríguez de Zona 5.

El principal dueño de la Torre Atiemar también posee dos villas de lujo en Casa de Campo, La Romana y un yate.

Dentro del catálogo de venta de las Torres Atiemar, como atractivo, sus dueños refieren que su ubicación está cerca de varias embajadas.

Zona 5 obtuvo varios ejemplares de los catálogos que era presentados a los compradores de buena fe o no.

De acuerdo a documentos obtenidos por Zona 5, el Banreservas financió 43 apartamentos de las Torres Atiemar Sur y Norte.

continued:

Cuando Arturo del Tiempo Marques solicitaba un préstamo bancario o un producto daba como dirección de su residencia la calle Pedro A. Lluberes no. 9, Gazcue, Santo Domingo, donde funciona el buffete de abogados Vega Read y Asociados, y donde una empleada reveló a la periodista María Cristina Rodríguez del programa Zona 5, que el inversionista español, investigado por presuntos nexos con el narcotráfico, es cliente de esa oficina.

¿Vinculado a negocios artísticos en la República Dominicana?

Arturo del Tiempo hijo, promueve a través de su página de Facebook el concierto de Joaquín Sabina en Santo Domingo y Santiago , y pone los precios tanto en pesos dominicanos como en dólares.

http://noticiastelemicro.com/inde....mp;catid=1:principal&Itemid=4

OHH lol , i thought this haitian guy josean had already shut-up his big lips, he talks like a perico loco!!!

ateo, i have a bet that you can help me win. i say that between yourself and MS Jersey, there will be no intelligent remark forthcoming in the foreseeable future.so far, my money looks safe. now please just continue in your accustomed fashion, and secure the win for me. i oftentimes tend to be a really sore loser.

@dreadlocks, tank you for deliberately giving me the honor to enter into this glorious battle. I didn't want to waist my time anymore with josean and his mud-cookie clan. Buuuut I don't bother giving up a punch.

@Josean
wtf is wrong with you, is that you don't have a life and a job??
If you have so much times to post all your BS then you can do it in Haitixchange (AKA pedophilia exchange) ...............................

keep it up, ateo. i am ahead, and, by all appearances, my money is safe.

ateo,

You too could contribute semi-articulate postings like me, if you ever decide to get your GED and stop surfing the free porn websites!

Joseano wrote "So please stop the victim rhetoric! Cheap Mexican labor has made many in the United States rich, just as Super Cheap Haitian Labor is responsible for the wealth of many, many Dominicans of the “best families!”

The major and LONELY and ONLY difference is that in USA, the Mexican immigrants represent a minute percentage number of USA population, and there are immigrants coming from all over the world. Compared to the Haitians in DR who are the overwhelmingly , disastrous, alarming monstrous number OF IMMIGRANTS COMING FROM ONE SINGLE COUNTRY AND WHO ARE coming from the financially and intelligently poorest country in this hemisphere.

Nothing will stop the exodus, just a wall.

Percepcion,
"Same as you "Mulato" from the native Tainos of la Hispaniola"

I have never heard of a Taino trying cross the DR/Haiti border.
Have you seen an illegal Taino in DR?

I have a friend who like most people not living in the east coast, do not know much about the Caribbean nations, so she told me a friend living in the upper northwest went to DR in a cruise and got really depressed to see so many African looking kids and young women with small kids in rags and without shoes begging in the streets.

How embarrassed I was. At that moment I did not show my mad feelings but explained to her the situation with the Haitians AND EXPLAIN THESE VERY DARK AFRICAN LOOKING KIDS WERE NOT DOMINICANS BUT HAITIANS.

We need to stop this! WE can not afford to loose tourist clients who paid their money to see paradise but instead are presented with the worst and calamity.

poponlaburra,

The point is not the "quality" of the immigrant or the ability of the "host" country to absorb them.

The fundamental principle as in most social interaction is Economic. Simply there is a real need or manufactured by keeping the salaries low thus, providing a disincentive to the nationals for taking these jobs

If the Dominican government is serous about controlling its borders it should penalize those who higher this cheap labor with both crippling financial fines and devastating years of incarceration.

But guess what this activity is very lucrative to the very wealth and just like the own every thing else in the country, they own the government, so it isn’t going happen boys and girls!

Only when it is not profitable to hire Haitians will we stop hiring Haitians it’s a simple fact of life.

continued:

By the way, your point that US is larger so the proportion of illegal immigration is more manageable then begs the point as to why the richest most powerful nation in the world has not been able to stop it.

Because one of the most powerful forces in the world is the force of markets and the law of supply and demand rules them. So if you have demand for cheap labor they will come over, under or around any walls you build real or virtual.

Look at the so-called DRUG WAR with all the vigilance, penalties and risk to life and people still every day become involved because of the extraordinary profitability the demand generates.

So illegal immigration is the symptom; the disease is the unscrupulous businessmen and women that create the market for this labor with the support of their cohorts in the government.

"EXPLAIN THESE VERY DARK AFRICAN LOOKING KIDS WERE NOT DOMINICANS"

So Johnny Ventura, Joseito Mateo, Sammy Sosa (well Sammy is a bad example he is white but you get the point) are not Dominicans?

Black denial

Nearly all Dominican women straighten their hair, which experts say is a direct result of a historical learned rejection of all things black



Hoc est verum et nihili nisi verum .............

papo!!

Dominicanos han creado una miríada de nombres - morena (marrón), india (India), blanca oscura (blanco oscuro), trigueño (color de trigo) - para evitar referirse a sí mismos como negro.

WaoooW!!!!

Hoc est verum et nihili nisi verum .............

Ponponlaburra - They are most likely Dominicans you idiot. What happened to all of the slaves sent to the Dominican Republic? How about the many slaves smuggled in from Curazao that weren't even counted on the censuses? Dominicans are a majority dark skinned mulatto people and always have been, Haitians mostly live along the borders.

Exactly Josean. It's sad how some Dominicans will automatically assume their compatriots are Haitians just by their skin color. Most of those black people that you assume are Haitians are Dominicans with spanish surnames, you're just mad that you're (light skinned people) a minority in your own country. Get out of the campo and see the real Dominican Republic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izfX5gkh1nw

Bonaoense, look these are all DOMINICANS.

they are dominicans who are wrongfully labeled as Haitians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc8jZaAeXvg&NR=1
More Dominican people.

comment from another video:

"i cant tell whos Haitian or Dominican? "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCCFY5QBCc&NR=1
They don't even speak spanish well, Dominican too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBVR1q6Q5u4&feature=related
This government don't care about our country, these people are so different from us.
Learn from this woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z_yl7PUh2s&feature=related
More Dominican people

voodoo satan people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvpotvirwrs&feature=related

The Haitian propaganda machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzKCzX129p4
Sonia pierre.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrNLBqD0y9w&feature=related

These are DOMINICAN TOO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLLgQAaaW7A&feature=related

This says it all!

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it shouldn't be 10 millions, it should be 20 millions! its one island, one country, one nation! we will be the strongest caribbean island and the most populated!stronger,economy,tourism, exportation, more investment and more jobs, just like united states of america " no color' ... which caribbean island has 20 millions people? dominican republic baby.

pitibacoa,go f yourself .Move to Haiti if you want and leave us alone ! Hijo de P!

I have never heard of a Taino trying cross the DR/Haiti border.
Have you seen an illegal Taino in DR?

0000

Your ancestor vanish "La Hispaniola" Indians, to be more explicit !!!!!

I'm not "Rascist" but I despite Dominicans and they Piss me-off because you have to constantly remind them to wash harder behind the ear.

: C

DONT_BE_SILENT,

0000


Trujillo was the greatest not because he ordered the slaughter of Haitians peasent that refused to returned to Haiti after being "Exploited" in the sugar cane fields. In Fact, Trujillo was the greatest because he screw and terrorized every single soul of the east side of "The Hispaniola" into "submission".

So Keep your Facts "Raton de Callejon"

Haitians aren't Satanists you idiot

Defeated ALWAYS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T6Rh8vlKus&feature=related

DONT_BE_SILENT!!
"Raton de Callejon"

Just_another_bozo.
Are you still stuck in 1822???
call a tow truck.
Clown!!!

¿Todavía estás atrapado en 1822???
Llame a una grúa.
Payaso!

DONT_BE_SILENT,
thanks for those links im going to kick some dirty haitian ass on youtube.

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ms-jersey
ateo
carlos franco
lautoro
pepe32
ponponlabura
shelinof5

You are great Dominicans and I am proud of you.
Keep the good work !
You call Haitians ugly,
they have fat lips
they are ,black likecharcoal,
so black they look purple.
they breed like rabbits.
they should deported .back to haiti or to Africa
they should be killed

Oh I am so proud you !

People always speak about the bright ,the good,the decent ,the tolererant, the charming side of the Dominican Republic, no one never dare express the ugly,the pessistic,the fearful,the ignorant, the lunatic side of the country.
You have the courage to do it.
In this time when the Dominican Republic is regarded as a developped country, when its leader is regarded as a stateman in the region called to solve conflicts and sove problems.
you come out spitting childish and ignorant garbages to take the country back to when it used to be a banana republic ruled by lunatics terrorizing its people
Bravo

The Dominicans leaving to USA and Euro are being replaced by illegal Haitian

pepe 32, open your eyes and tell me who are the dominicans ? those that dies each day trying to get to puerto rico,spain,usa? the land its god^s not ours! why is so hard for you to accept haitians as your brothers, but we die to be called americans etc? mira la paja de tu ojo y despues mira la demas! trujillo and the war againts haitians no longer exist! if you cant beat them, join them! 1+1 its better than 1_

pepe 32, open your eyes and tell me who are the dominicans ? those that dies each day trying to get to puerto rico,spain,usa? the land its god^s not ours! why is so hard for you to accept haitians as your brothers, but we die to be called americans etc? mira la paja de tu ojo y despues mira la demas! trujillo and the war againts haitians no longer exist! if you cant beat them, join them! 1+1 its better than 1-1.

etiennec, i must say that i fail to understand how you could accuse Mr Lautaro of making any insensitive remarks againt Haitians. i stand ready to be corrected if you can point out one such posting which proves me wrong. you must be confused with Gizmo and Vacanos.

Dread,
Let me know if you need any help spending your "bet winnings". I mean there is no such thing as a sure thing but you have a "surer" thing going than death and taxes.

This guy dread sounds as if he was superior than everybody
Come down here to Pueblo Nuevo I make you my B I A T C H, bitch.
Haitiano del diablo.

dreadloks , thanks for your correction !

dreadloks , thanks for your correction !

I always drive with my windows up when I pass through pueblo nuevo in Santiago

Pitibacoa you are not Dominican and unification is treason for any real Dominican (and probably for Haitians too)

Again if you want to unify with Haiti go to Haiti and unify your own self!!

I truly hope you are not Dominican because if you are you are a stain on the country and even more so on a decent place like Jarabacoa where you would be lynched if you said in person the garbage you write here!

I don't think words have been invented that can describe the contempt I feel for someone like you.

pepe 32, i come from a black and white family, you cant understand that specially if your white... im more dominican than any of you, why? i love dominican republic so much that i will unify just to make it bigger without just on the other side... dominicans are leaving their land cause there aint nothing and you are worry about haitians, but who is doing the jod you wont do in dr? haitians. stop been racist and grow up...i live the present and you still in the past.

To pepe32, from the Catholics he loves so dearly!

Jesuitas proponen reconstruir Haití con visión de isla

http://www.clavedigital.com/App_P....s/Noticias.aspx?id_Articulo=28076

jarabacaoa you AND the f u*** Jesuitas de perra should burn!!....

Actually pitibacoa the blacks were the last group to come to the island..

First the Tainos
Then the Spaniards
Finally the Africans

and if you are Haitians ,most of them were in Africa until the 1700´s so PLEASE edumacate yourself you piece of watered down crap!

Thanks Josean ,as if I didn´t have enough reasons to despise the jesuits!

If only they would leave DR take all the Haitians with them and leave us alone they might redeem themselves!

I paid my bill and it seems I am still not getting enough light!

Written by: jarabacoa, 15 Mar 2010 2:30 PM
From: United States

pepe 32, i come from a black and white family, you cant understand that specially if your white... im more dominican than any of you, why? i love dominican republic so much that i will unify just to make it bigger without just on the other side... dominicans are leaving their land cause there aint nothing and you are worry about haitians, but who is doing the jod you wont do in dr? haitians. stop been racist and grow up...i live the present and you still in the past.

Ahole quote of the month!!

"im more dominican than any of you,"

So this ahole thinks that because he has AFRICAN blood somehow that makes him more DOMINICAN which by the way is in the Americas .The Africans were the last group to arrive but that is besides the point because any Dominican born of parents legally in the country is a Dominican whether his parents are Chinese,Japanese,Arab,European,West Indian and even LEGAL Haitians!!

Of course afronazis would not understand this and somehow think that Africans have more of a right to this island than others even though they were not even first or second on this island !

Again pitibacoa f you and your whole tribe if you want to destroy what Dominicans fought and died for which was to be free and independent and you and anyone who wants to unify with Haiti can renounce your citizenship immediately and join the paradise called Haiti which would be a dream a African pride!!

im mulato and proud of it! you just a sick person with a racist mentality! dominican aint white, never was never will...

pepe, trujillo troed to make dr white and he couldnt...now, its up to leonel fernandez^ mulato^ to unify the island. im dominican, but to me 20 millions dominicans are bigger than 10!

Sorry pitibacoa ,I don't speak ebonics...
You are a racist and you are a traitor ti DR if you even are Dominican (I doubt it)

I dare you to go to a meeting with plenty of people in Jarabacoa and state our loud that you want unification...I hope you have a fast horse because they will chase you out of town and if they catch you they may just tar and feather you!

You are pond scum who doesn't deserve the title Dominican and who probably lives in some ghetto in the US and has "discovered" his afrocentricity while having no clue what being Dominican is.

Thank God most real Dominicans would slap you silly if you mentioned your idiotic "ideas" in person but that is why you are in Dominican Today because you probably can barely write in Spanish and view DR through your US ghetto racist prism yet you have the nerve to call people racists because we want our nation to be independent and because we don't ever want to be unified with the lowest of the low . That is Patriotism you ahol

BTW those people on the other side have never been nor do they want to be Dominicans,in their view it is we (Dominicans) who are Haitians in denial so please just say you are Haitian and unify your disgusting self to Haiti but stay the f away from my country where an overwhelming majority would never want to unify with anyone else but especially with the Haitians!

God bless your little Brain. Josean

If we made the 1/4 of our land strong it will share the wealth, is not for your family pocket of course.
Is evolution could take a wild but it works.

God bless your little Brain. Josean

If we made the 1/4 of our land strong it will share the wealth, is not for your family pocket of course.
Is evolution could take a wild but it works.

“Every age, every culture, every custom and tradition has its own character, its own weakness and its own strength, its beauties and cruelties; it accepts certain sufferings as matters of course, puts up patiently with certain evils. Human life is reduced to real suffering, to hell, only when two ages, two cultures and religions overlap.” Hermann Hesse

MitaR,

Apparently evolution passed you by!

Dear dreadlocks

Josean is all canon but not balls

By the way genius its spelled cannon, 1/16th of a Brain!


It’s the CANNON that makes the girls happy, they could care less about the spheres!