The Haytians should have a right of return!

@basta you don't understand they can't go back they are a pple with out a country. They were born in haiti and we don't have dual citizenship. So their family would have to aplied for them but if they are 3 generation. No one can applied for them. If they had money to start with they would applied for legal paper in dr. It cost about $ 2000 us or $76000dr

Hillary should be deported to Haiti and stripped of her Ciudadania to live in peace and harmony away from the American people.

@vivacuba How can you deport her when she owns so much iproperty in dr

Why are the Haitian want to stay in DR anyway, they know we dont wanted them....i dont go to place where i am not invite it.

Exactly. Most people would not go to places they are not invited nor welcomed. The despicable US envoy is the exception. These bacteria infiltrate every nation on earth with their hostile takeovers. Go Go Go

i said it before and i will say it again, until laws are enacted and enforced in both countries nothing will change, It doesn't matter how many diplomats and political figures from the international community keep sticking their noses where it doesn't belong the situation will just keep getting worse. This is a two nation deal, why do they look at us as the ones to bare all the responsibility on the matter when in reality Haiti is to blame. I mean how many thousands of Haitian children are born and at the same time they don’t exist because their government fails to issue birth certificates. The Haitian government is screwing up in every possible way and somehow we are suffering the consequences. I understand the human aspect, the tragedy of the earthquake happened and illegal immigration increased as was expected, but it’s been years and I think is time the government takes action and restores order.

We have to try and enforce our laws as the constitution dictates regardless of what the international community might say or do.

Look Haiti needs these people more than we do. Almost 300,000 slots opened up after the earthquake and the Haitian government needs more taxpayers, right? Right? Im sure if all the dumb Haitians who live in DR went to Haiti and protested like they do here the Haitian government would give em there papers right away.

Dominicans of Haitian descent should not be deprived of their rights because of retroactive laws that target them. The immigration issue has to be done with human rights in mind. The Haitians Government has to do something to provide something for it's people. But the Dominican government is also partly responsible for allowing the massive population of Haitians to arrive in order to fulfill it's cheap labor needs. You made your bed, now lay in it.

@the_haitian

The Haitian constitution does not have dual citizenship but it provides for children whose parents are born in Haiti. 2nd generation haitians need to go back to Haiti and claim their true citizenship and then the 3rd generation will benefit as well. If by chance a 2nd generation haitian is already dead and the 3rd generation children are stateless, it is still not the DR's fault, as our constitution only recognizes descendants by blood or those born in DR whose parents are legally in the country.

Instead of pushing for the DR to modify its constitution to provide for these children of haitian descent, it should be Haiti that needs to modify its constitution to provide for its descendants and end the "let somebody else deal with it mentality". The DR is already doing a lot by providing health, education and other services to all these people at taxpayer's expense.

I mean how many thousands of Haitian children= And Dominicans. Blame that on the RCC. Be Green get an abortion!

Are we still talking about this nightmare? Take break people, this thing don't put money in your pocket, and now some of them are saying that we only went and help because we were gonna get paid after the quake. WHERE'S THE MONEY, YOU BUNCH OF FREELOADERS? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BACKSTABBERS.

@ basta you know you should be the poster child for abortion and why men should not have sex with out a condom. @ tomito the dominican constitution was change to target haitian. first you ever notice that imigracion never goes to the batey you ever wonder why? my mother was born in dr she had a dominican birth certificate. she was born in higuey.but she was born there by accident because my grand mother went there for the virgin. but my grand mother went back to haiti and applied for the haitian certificate. i am a us citizen if i go to dr and have a kid you think i would have a problem getting my kid a birth certificate. you have to admit your consti is racist lack of a better word

This should keep Hillary busy and stop meddling in sovereign affairs. Covers her ugly face up too

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Add a little waterboarding for the tortuous fascist government too

@The_Haitian, can you bring up the paragraph Where " the Dominican Constitution was changed to target Haitian" ?

And please, bring both the Old and the New One ! We are Waiting !!!!

@telemeco,

Why are you in the US, so you think you are wanted here?

@tomito,

I gree on the constitution point. However, you are wrong about the DR providing education to the Haitians.

@tscho you have to look @ the history of the contit and why was it retroactive. My spanish is not good enough to able to translate late it but you could read it and explain to me after you look @ the history of it . If I am wrong I will apologize

@the_haitian,
The 2010 constitution (amendment) was needed in order to erase any confusion about its meaning. The previous constitution stated that Dominicans were:

"People born in the national territory, except the sons and daughters of foreigners that
are members of diplomatic and consular missions or foreigners who are in-transit "

The argument then, became that, because the final destination/intention of illegal Haitian immigrants was Dominican Republic, then they were not really "in-transit". Basically, that the exception to the constitution article was not applicable to them. Back then, the meaning and intention of the word "in-transit" was taken out of context. "In-transit" meant those people that were not authorized, by the Dominican Government, to stay or reside in its territory. For this reason, the article was change to read:

"... members of diplomatic and consular missions, foreigners
who are in transit or residing illegally in Dominican territory."

Thank you @Arcangel96, excellent explanation (!)

@ arcangel I understand your explanation. I am not saying that dr is not right orn does not have the right. But those who are living in the batey if they are illegal why does imigracion not go in and if they and if they have working paper then they in the country legaly then they off spring should have the righr to citizenship

@the_haitian,
To be honest, I don't know if all the Haitians in the "bateyes" are all illegal or not. I can only speculate that some have work permits and some don't . The reasons why immigration agents don't venture into the "bateyes" could be, because of the political and economic influence of the owners of the sugar cane plantations. In other words, someone is getting paid to look away. (These are mostly private businesses today.) Plus, most of the work permits that are given to Haitians are for working in the "bateyes."

To your last question, you are correct, If they are residing legally in Dominican territory, then their children are Dominican.

@ arcangel trust me you know they are illegal. As you know when a person is illegal in a country they will take what ever job they can get that is what ever job that the native don't want. But once they have there papers hell no they will not do those jobs. Like in the state they say mexicans are taking there jobs away from them .you ever see an american picking lettuce. When he get his papers you he's going to be on that farm. The us needs illegal just like dr. The economy depends more on the illegal then you think or want to admit. Check out the state who are trying to enforce they own laws , you will how much money they have lost

@the_haitian,
I agree that, in general, illegal immigrants tend to perform those low paying jobs that everyone else don't. The problem, in DR, is that the number of low paying jobs in agriculture, construction and other formal sectors of the economy, are not sufficient to accommodate the increasing number of illegal Haitian immigrants and our own unemployed labor force.

It is estimated that Haiti has a labor force of 3.6 million. Out of those, approximately 50% are unemployed (or underemployed). Since the earthquake, the numbers of illegal Haitian immigrants have quickly saturated the supply of cheap labor. Now, what you see is many Haitians trying to make a living by other means, that in some cases, have created friction with the local population.

I think that some Haitian labor is needed. But it has to be done properly and according to the law.

@ Arcangel96
On a serious note, you should run for office.

@ELPAPA999,
Thanks... I'll take it as a compliment. :)