Santo Domingo.- Retired Police general Andres Julio Alcantara will be buried today, after being shot and killed in a holdup when he left his daughter in a friend’s house in the sector Las Praderas Saturday night.
The retired officer passed away in a clinic in nearby Los Prados, after two thugs on a motorcycle approached him and told him it was a holdu., after resisting, the officer was slain and his sidearm taken by the assailants.
Alcantara, who held senior Police posts, was considered a serious and respectful man. He will be laid to rest at Maximo Gomez cemetery 11am today.
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Coje plata O te damo plomo..... I guess he took PLOMO
Written by: RoyStone, 24 Oct 2011 9:46 AM
From: Australia
This confirms that carrying a gun is no protection and the proliferation of guns in the Dominican Republic is a major contributor to the atrocious murder rate in this country. Most illegal guns start life as legal ones. These crimes are ready, alert, desperate and don't hesitate to kill. innocent victims, even if armed, are not.
Written by: matador, 24 Oct 2011 9:49 AM
From: United States, www.brugal-ron.com/home.php
Find those Criminal and Dont even give the a chance to Breath Put 500 rounds on each and one of them,,,, Malditos asesinos ya estamos Jarto de la Maldita delincuencia.
Written by: walnut, 24 Oct 2011 9:56 AM
From: Bouvet Island, Cayuga lakeside
Arrest the pot sellers....they are the true criminals!
Written by: avi8or55, 24 Oct 2011 10:03 AM
From: United States, Sosua
Fear not, the perps will be hunted down and shot, just like the perps in Puerto Plata that shot the 2 officers in cold blood! Read about it soon!
From: United States, Yonkers, NY
RIP. Looks like those ladrones picked the wrong person to holsd up. Their lives will be over shortly.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
I have had a similar experience in Ave Tiridentes near the Kentucky fried chisken shop when two men on a motor bike came up to my car window when I was stopped at the traffic lights and demanded my money under some silly pretext ..well as they had guns , I was not slow in handing over my money and they sped off . The problem comes in resisting ...and the general made a mistake in his reaction .
I have heard many similar incidents and I think this now becoming too common in the capital
From: United States
all the more reason to enact a death penalty and create a prison system that rivals the black holes of Calcutta. Place the harden criminals in there and toss away the key. Make prison so harsh and uninviting they will think twice, make a chain gang so they can clean up trash or build roads 12 hours a day so everyone sees what happens to criminals. . Street crime is the most horrible thing for it's citizens, my girl friend was robbed as well as her cousin. She was able to pick out one of the robbers in the mug shots and the Police knew him well, no arrests so far I wonder why?
Written by: RoyStone, 24 Oct 2011 11:39 AM
From: Australia
Ricardolito,
What were you driving? If you look wealthy or are white (some Dominicans think all gringos are rich) then you are a magnet for these types.
Written by: RoyStone, 24 Oct 2011 11:45 AM
From: Australia
sweetbabyj,
It does not matter how harsh you make the penalties, they are not a deterrent if the conviction rate is low. The police are under-resourced, under-trained, under-paid and under-respected which makes them very susceptible to bribery and corruption - an acceptible way of life for many here.
From: United States
Unfortunately this problem is becoming to common.
The criminal element believes they can rob and murder anyone.
This problem need to be corrected before it destroy a beautiful country.
Needless to say, with the perceived idea that lawlessness is out of control.
The money flowing into the country will dry up.
Less jobs and capital more desperation and crime.
I know many will disagree with me on this point.
But I believe murders should be hunted down and killed, end of story.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Roy Stone, it was at night and no one could see what colour I was and my colour is light brown now although I have an aristocratic head !!!!!!!!, only joking ..and my car is normally a dirty mid size SUV . The other people I know have all been latinos and of both sexes , I believe these thugs wait in streets with diminished lighting and operate in pairs and sometimes wear a police type uniform .. I have seen them operating in Aves Duarte and Mella in day hours looking for snatch grabs .
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Is this one of those generals retired by leo
Written by: RoyStone, 24 Oct 2011 3:37 PM
From: Australia
Ricardolito, thanks, but I'm not sure if your explanation makes me feel any safer. How can one tell who is a crocked, phony cop, and who is a genuine, crocked cop, and in the end, does it make any difference? Secondly, is the capital any more dangerous than the barrios?
Written by: RoyStone, 24 Oct 2011 3:43 PM
From: Australia
What is known about this general? Perhaps the motive was not robbery, but some kind of payback? Does the fact he was armed suggest he knew he had enemies?
Written by: generoso, 24 Oct 2011 4:51 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Roystone
A little bird told me that he had a lot of enemies and a real murky and abusive career.
Ricardolito
Same thing happened to me recently, I was driving a small rented car, about midnight, and these two guys in a motorbike, in 27 de Febrero, dressed as police told me to pull over, and I replied: What for? I haven't broken any laws, and the driver then said: You have any weapons and are indulging in alcoholic beverages?
and I said NO and NO, and I ain't stopping anywhere, and I closed the window, as the other "cop" said: Let's go this guy is a jefe.
I noticed, as they sped off, that they had a piece of cardboard going over the license plate, and my hunch is that they were not cops, and they wanted to shake me down and rob me.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
What is known about this general? Perhaps the motive was not robbery, but some kind of payback? Does the fact he was armed suggest he knew he had enemies
roy stone your gun theorie makes no sense , just because hes packing does not mean he was in danger in his life , thisis dominican republic where crime is frequent , and robberies happen daily to citizens . Your anti gun crusade is a joke , even if the banned guns history has always proven , that human beings will still kill each other with other weapons .
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Roy Stone as I believe it , the police are not there for traffic policing ,,that is for AMET and so , as generoso has seen and as I now believe, the chances are that people in police uniforms on motor bikes are probably not police when they try to pull you over .But it is a difficult decision to make and especially for you when you do not speak spanish ..my advice to you is to just hand over some money as a life is worth more than a few thousand pesos .
In my view , at night the barrios are definitely out of bounds because of delinquencia and in the main part of the capital the problem now are thes people on bikes and I do not drive between cities at night at all at night .
For you just keep some money in the car to hand over quickly ...and never hand over your licence ,,,you must have a good copy in your car
Written by: RoyStone, 24 Oct 2011 8:49 PM
From: Australia
hellborn25,
1) people are killed much easier and far more frequently with guns than without.
2) murders are far fewer in countries with strict gun controls (like Australia) than countries with easy access to guns (like USA and DR).
3) owning a gun increases rather than reduces your chances of being shot.
These are statistical realities, not theories.
Chances are, unless you are holding your gun, loaded with the safety catch off, in high alert and pointing it in the right direction, your attacker is better prepared than you, and less likely to hesitate before pulling the trigger, especially if he knows you are armed too.
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I have heard many similar incidents and I think this now becoming too common in the capital
What were you driving? If you look wealthy or are white (some Dominicans think all gringos are rich) then you are a magnet for these types.
It does not matter how harsh you make the penalties, they are not a deterrent if the conviction rate is low. The police are under-resourced, under-trained, under-paid and under-respected which makes them very susceptible to bribery and corruption - an acceptible way of life for many here.
The criminal element believes they can rob and murder anyone.
This problem need to be corrected before it destroy a beautiful country.
Needless to say, with the perceived idea that lawlessness is out of control.
The money flowing into the country will dry up.
Less jobs and capital more desperation and crime.
I know many will disagree with me on this point.
But I believe murders should be hunted down and killed, end of story.
A little bird told me that he had a lot of enemies and a real murky and abusive career.
Ricardolito
Same thing happened to me recently, I was driving a small rented car, about midnight, and these two guys in a motorbike, in 27 de Febrero, dressed as police told me to pull over, and I replied: What for? I haven't broken any laws, and the driver then said: You have any weapons and are indulging in alcoholic beverages?
and I said NO and NO, and I ain't stopping anywhere, and I closed the window, as the other "cop" said: Let's go this guy is a jefe.
I noticed, as they sped off, that they had a piece of cardboard going over the license plate, and my hunch is that they were not cops, and they wanted to shake me down and rob me.
roy stone your gun theorie makes no sense , just because hes packing does not mean he was in danger in his life , thisis dominican republic where crime is frequent , and robberies happen daily to citizens . Your anti gun crusade is a joke , even if the banned guns history has always proven , that human beings will still kill each other with other weapons .
In my view , at night the barrios are definitely out of bounds because of delinquencia and in the main part of the capital the problem now are thes people on bikes and I do not drive between cities at night at all at night .
For you just keep some money in the car to hand over quickly ...and never hand over your licence ,,,you must have a good copy in your car
1) people are killed much easier and far more frequently with guns than without.
2) murders are far fewer in countries with strict gun controls (like Australia) than countries with easy access to guns (like USA and DR).
3) owning a gun increases rather than reduces your chances of being shot.
These are statistical realities, not theories.
Chances are, unless you are holding your gun, loaded with the safety catch off, in high alert and pointing it in the right direction, your attacker is better prepared than you, and less likely to hesitate before pulling the trigger, especially if he knows you are armed too.