The notorious Puerto Rican drug baron Angel Ayala (Angelo Millones) had deep roots in DR.
Santo Domingo.- Various agencies of the United States have seized substantially higher amounts of dollars of unknown origin in Puerto Rico this year, and reveals that drug trafficking’s skyrocketing profits are flowing through that island and the Caribbean general, into the Dominican Republic.
Officials from both nations quoted by AP say that “for a large part of the money that flows through Puerto Rico, its final destination is the Dominican Republic. Large confiscations of cash, which go from the tens of thousands of dollars to more than one million, have become something routine in Puerto Rico, where dealers take advantage of the frequent air and marine traffic from the USA to transport drugs and money.”
The United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) reported cash confiscations rose 68% to nearly 2.4 million dollars during the 12 months which conclude September 30, whereas the Drugs Enforcement Administration (DEA) said confiscations more than doubled to 18 million dollars.
And despite that it’s barely a fraction of what’s seized along the U.S.-Mexico border, it’s enough for the Department of Justice’s recent report to call Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands an “important money movement center.”
“Mexico continues being the main country for the transport of illicit money, but considering that we’re a small jurisdiction, we aren’t far behind,” said Angel Meléndez, a U.S. federal investigator in Puerto Rico.
The DEA stresses that for a large part of money which flows through Puerto Rico, the final destination is the Dominican Republic.
Written by: josean, 21 Dec 2011 9:31 AM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
We have become the Laundromat for washing worldwide dirty money thanks to Lie-onel and the Narco-PLD!
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Tricky subject ,,,I would prefer no drugs and no dirty money in the DR but definitely would not want the drug trade using our country without the money being used here ,,,,,,dirty money is going to be washed somewhere so why not here.....I can understand that people can say that dirty money being washed will bring bad people ..I am not sure if this correct or not .
From: Dominican Republic
It is not just about dirty money. Drug lords who can afford buying million $ condos in Malecon can also afford having a private army to protect them. Harboring this kind of people in the DR is not only disastrous for the reputation of the country as drug dealer paradise but also a security issue if we don't want to have the Mexican day for day reality in the DR. For sure nothing good is coming to the DR with this kind of criminals.
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
The fact of the matter is the cartels have marketing divisions, enforcement divisions, and financial divisions.
Once the money is out of the streets and into their coffers, their pinstriped suit financiers make the decisions and, fortunately or not, in this world, money talks.
They can afford to buy high-ranking people and do what they please once the deals are made.
Written by: generoso, 21 Dec 2011 11:43 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Besides the obvious legal implications for moneys connected to illicit enterprises, and without taking the moral high ground, pro or con legalization, by turning our heads the other way, and permitting investments in assets and allowing illicit money to purchase high ticket items, that fosters public and private corruption in the DR, makes us all complicit to the outlaws.
The apparent axiom "the illicit activities or the crimes did not occur here", is a poor excuse for tolerating public and private corruption, that erodes our institutions, starting from the top on down.
Written by: josean, 21 Dec 2011 1:07 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"Written by: Ricardolito, 21 Dec 2011 10:11 AM
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Tricky subject ,,,I would prefer no drugs and no dirty money in the DR but definitely would not want the drug trade using our country without the money being used here ,,,,,,dirty money is going to be washed somewhere so why not here.....I can understand that people can say that dirty money being washed will bring bad people ..I am not sure if this correct or not ."
Of all the stupid pro government excusatory comments you have made this one must go in Guinness Book of Records under the category of Political Spin as the most IDIOTIC!
Written by: Perez, 21 Dec 2011 1:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Hey since the laws (if there's any) are so damn weak, and being a thug earns you a goden badge of honor, what would discourage druck cartels from making business and living in DR? After all the one that supposedly governs DR is a narco thug himself!
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
i think it was in John le Carre s novel OUr kind of Traitor that I first became aware of the enormous size of the dirty money in the world with banks beceing set up to facilitate it , hotels being built without guests and later onsold , enormous apartment blocks being built and so on ..and altough there are many checks on the flow of money through official channels , the dirty money frlows through merchant banks , and finance companies set up around the world .
The dirty money is invested all around the world ,, my question was, should the DR ,which suffers much through the drugs passing through this country , be overconcerned if some of the money is washed here ...In world terms it would be minute ??
Sorry that Josean can not advance some sort of view... I am still formulating my viewa, but I think as long as the use of the dirty money is used very strictly within the country s rules, then I think it could benefit the DR But I am open to having my mind changed
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
the mountains of money gained from all sorts of activities ends up being washed in various countries in Europe, USA , the Caribbean and so on ..it seems to me although there may be no official welcoming mat for this money ..many countries do little to discourage it .
I would really appreciate some discussion on the merits of countries turning a half blind eye to money washing
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Just to point how big the illicit money maeket is it is betwen 2 and 4 trillion dollars so from that one can small the DR problem is on a world scale and where does all the big money go to . It is , no use for Josean to just give a minus and not think hard about this subject and give us some views
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
This can become a polemic, but let's face the facts.
The concept of "dirty money" is interesting.
John sell Peter a key. Peter pays with money he's got, ultimately, from the users. Let's assume few of those are nor legit, so clean money became dirty when it got into Peter's hands, and still is dirty when it passes unto John.
John goes to the dentist. The money becomes clean again when it passes unto the dentist.
See my point? Where do you draw the line?
From: Dominican Republic
Does anyone have a reasonable guestimate on how much money is allegedly being washed?
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
MOLONDRON I have written this earlier ..in 2008 09 it was estimated to be between 2 and 4 trillion dollars world wide so far we read about a few hundred millions here in the DR but only a small amount of world total ,,,Josean ..maybe you can give some information instead of just a minus
From: United States, Bay Area, CA - (Dei sitio)
Drugs, oil, corn, what's the difference?...It's just another commodity...The business prospers where there is a strong market.
This is all smokes and mirrors...Drugs consumption keeps key world economies afloat...You don't believe ask the guys in Washington.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
I have not talking about drugs but the money that eventually finds a country in which it is invested and cleaned or on the other hand it is confiscated by the government .
Written by: josean, 21 Dec 2011 5:28 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Now we can suspect how you possible earn your living besides the Purple checks you probably get for supporting every this NARCO government does!
Written by: generoso, 21 Dec 2011 6:56 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Ricardolito
Josean interpretations of your message, was not that far off the factual evidence of your fuzzy thinking comments, highlighting your total confusion to the realities in DR.
Written by: josean, 21 Dec 2011 7:00 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
How so Professor?
Written by: josean, 21 Dec 2011 7:03 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
Now be gentle on him, please I don't want you to be accused of child abuse, Professor!
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We have become the Laundromat for washing worldwide dirty money thanks to Lie-onel and the Narco-PLD!
Once the money is out of the streets and into their coffers, their pinstriped suit financiers make the decisions and, fortunately or not, in this world, money talks.
They can afford to buy high-ranking people and do what they please once the deals are made.
Besides the obvious legal implications for moneys connected to illicit enterprises, and without taking the moral high ground, pro or con legalization, by turning our heads the other way, and permitting investments in assets and allowing illicit money to purchase high ticket items, that fosters public and private corruption in the DR, makes us all complicit to the outlaws.
The apparent axiom "the illicit activities or the crimes did not occur here", is a poor excuse for tolerating public and private corruption, that erodes our institutions, starting from the top on down.
"Written by: Ricardolito, 21 Dec 2011 10:11 AM
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Tricky subject ,,,I would prefer no drugs and no dirty money in the DR but definitely would not want the drug trade using our country without the money being used here ,,,,,,dirty money is going to be washed somewhere so why not here.....I can understand that people can say that dirty money being washed will bring bad people ..I am not sure if this correct or not ."
Of all the stupid pro government excusatory comments you have made this one must go in Guinness Book of Records under the category of Political Spin as the most IDIOTIC!
The dirty money is invested all around the world ,, my question was, should the DR ,which suffers much through the drugs passing through this country , be overconcerned if some of the money is washed here ...In world terms it would be minute ??
Sorry that Josean can not advance some sort of view... I am still formulating my viewa, but I think as long as the use of the dirty money is used very strictly within the country s rules, then I think it could benefit the DR But I am open to having my mind changed
I would really appreciate some discussion on the merits of countries turning a half blind eye to money washing
The concept of "dirty money" is interesting.
John sell Peter a key. Peter pays with money he's got, ultimately, from the users. Let's assume few of those are nor legit, so clean money became dirty when it got into Peter's hands, and still is dirty when it passes unto John.
John goes to the dentist. The money becomes clean again when it passes unto the dentist.
See my point? Where do you draw the line?
Does anyone have a reasonable guestimate on how much money is allegedly being washed?
This is all smokes and mirrors...Drugs consumption keeps key world economies afloat...You don't believe ask the guys in Washington.
Now we can suspect how you possible earn your living besides the Purple checks you probably get for supporting every this NARCO government does!
Josean interpretations of your message, was not that far off the factual evidence of your fuzzy thinking comments, highlighting your total confusion to the realities in DR.
How so Professor?
Now be gentle on him, please I don't want you to be accused of child abuse, Professor!