Sadness and heartache ... what a loss of young lives ... and what futile words could be offered up to console anyone ...

Memo to ALL DOMINICAN MEN! There is more P*ssy out there.

The b..tch deserved a spanking por chiflera.

Pero no para tanto.

It clearly demonstrates extreme desperation, the scales have turned against men. It is a conspiracy of modern society to symbolically castrate the male figure head.

In a divorce the man always loses everything, the house, the kids plus any additional assets are all given to the women. The Man is left pretty much in the streets, alone and pennyless. Then add insult to injury, some new dude comes to take your place, moves into your house, sits in your chair, eats your food, takes your bed, sleeps with your wife, takes your kids, wears your hat and sits like a fox on a tree.

Now don't tell me this is aint enough to drive or make a man crazy, then I don't know what else will.

Pity he didn't do the macho Dominican thing and serve himself first.

Justice DR STYLE.

We don't know why they were divorcing. Maybe he was a violent pig. Perhaps she was a cheating bit@h, we don't know. Regardless the outcome is tragic, unjustified and avoidable. Extramarital affairs seems to be considered a man's right in the Dominican Republic, but if his wife does it, he is fill with righteous indignation, often violent and sometimes murderous.

So, what was accomplished? The coward/pooossy took his own life and stopped the bloodline from existing......

This is what happens when the wife starts to look for a real man, because the one she has is to busy living the "dominican Joe" life and hanging out with the younger crowd prowling on teenies. It's obvious she was a good wife and he couldn't stand to see her happy with someone else..

Hope he rots in hell or his soul condemned to roam the earth for eternity without rest.

To all the mama's boys out there 'DON'T GET MARRIED IF YOU DON'T PLAN ON GROWING UP"

@RobertoJose-

This is neither about what was accomplished nor about being a real man. This is about being wise and not stupid, doing the right thing acting appropriately to protect yourself and the children. .

You don't know any of the details, making assumptions about the man and passing judgement without the facts. The couple is technically still married, not even divorce yet, but the lady already has a substitute, another guy in his house taking his place while his bed is still warm from the last time he slept there, in the middle of a public display of affection in front of the kids and several visitors.

There is such as thing as prudence, dignity, decency, modesty, composure, but above all reserve. Why would you place yourself and the children at risk of a MAD man who lost everything and has nothing to lose.

Hi didn't kill his kids, it was the lover's kids.

The lesson learned here is wait til everything is over and done. Once completely free of any entanglements, sever all ties with the ex, particularly when the break up was not amicable and move far away. Disappear for a while, start a new life elsewhere and only come out when safe to start dating. Then if appropriate, gradually allow contact with the estranged husband, if the occasion requires it, particularly if there are kids involved. Otherwise, bury the ex forever, forget the BS that we have remain freinds. I don't buy that.

From personal experience and for various reasons, I avoid relationships with women who have recently ended any type of relationship whether they were married or not. You never know who the hell was the previous partner and how he would react to see his women with another man. I always watch my back, no pussy is worth that much to fight for or risk your life. Beside pussy is easy and cheap to get, but once you got it, it cost far too much to lose it.

Maybe your right, still it didn't have to end that way and a real man would have cut his losses and started over and dealt with it in civilized manner.

I once witnessed a friend take his wife to court and she ended up paying him alimony and child support

Agreed, it was a tragedy and a wrong way to act and handle the situation, I do not condone such violent acts although I do not agree, I understand.

About your friend getting away with not paying alimony and child support, that is not the norm but an aberration.

O, that thing again,the women should learn to keep their legs closed UNTIL the divorce was ended,,,,lolz,,,Sad again...man what a jerk,,,to do something like that...

WalterPolo and Guillermone are pulling down the IQ level of all DT readers! If a man doesn't have the intelligence to walk away from such a situation instead of resorting to violence, then where have we come as human beings? There is absolutely no excuse, none, for what he did. he is a coward, much the way you two are also cowards!

Tragical.... It is a very sad end for them. And then a baby is killed. No excuse for the act. BUT...... Goind thru a divorce in the US and the bias and abuse against men in the courts these days, Lord knows what that guy was going thru.
In matters of divorce and child custody the blood a those who die as a consequence of court involvement rest in the hands of the courts.
In the US the first crime committed by a man is to be a male, thereafter, everything else sticks in court to them.

Brien,
I don't WalterPolo and Guillermone are pulling down the IQ level of all DT readers, nor are they justifying the man's behavior. They are just trying to explain how such tragic events can come about. It is not a question of intelligence or cowardice. We really need to know more before attributing blame.

It's very sad...I think it was a combination of Dominican machism, divorce, and financial problems...the guy saw his rival at his house and went nuts...Her boss warned her many times not to have the new boyfriend around her children/house....May they all rest in peace.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/....llers_path_tells_gruesome_ta.html

this happens alot and in new jersey too , I still remember agustin garcia killed his girlfriend on her wedding day , my father knew him personally and did bussness with the man . dominican man do not take cheating very lightly so memo to all cheating hoes ,cheat at your own risk!

I would be interested in the Dominican statistics - how many men kill their partner or ex, and how many women do likewise.

Dominican man kills wife, baby, wife’s lover and himself in NJ
News
Wednesday, 07 December 2011 14:59
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ShareAdepso Collado (top left) kills a baby boy also?

Adepso Collado a Dominican is now dead, so is his estranged wife, a baby and his wife’s lover.

On Monday night, Kennia Collado, her boyfriend, Jose Guzman, and his 14-month-old son, Matthew, were all the victims of a massacre inside Collado’s home.

They were all shot in the head.

Hudson County prosecutors said Adepso Collado, Kenia’s estranged husband, committed the horrifying triple murder and then shot himself in the head, as police entered the house.

Prosecutors said Adepso Collado killed himself in the basement of the home, where his two daughters, 5 and 8, had been playing. Investigators said he didn’t hurt the girls, but they were found frightened and hiding.

The man according to reports went on a killing spree

other nice peace loving dominican man.
man dominicans are sure making a name 4 themselfs no matter which country they go to live in dont they? its all over the tv stations even in florida and all over the internet.
if fact
the headlines are 'what's up caribbean?"
the dr guys go after anything in a dress, but god forbid the wife looks at other man and they go wild.
hey! take your next vacation in this paradise island u will love it, just bring a few body guards along with u.
lets not 4 get the 5 poor people from china that where killed in panama a few weeks ago by two dominican men and the german man they found in the airport in puerto plata and the list goes on and on
guess they like to kill dont they. {like the spaniards who conquered them did 500y's ago}

they treat their wifes and girfriends as slaves, but they are not slaves for their wifes.
many girfriends they have ages could be 10-11 12y old's no problems 4 them to have sex with babies it happens every night in the dr.
hey few weeks ago one low-life that is a law maker in the dr government the news came out he had a 14y old girl friend..
hey! its not me saying this its their own dr news that put this info.out.

writing a book about the dr.
man just wait when it comes out???

Too many tourists killed in the Dominican Republic(Update 13)
Read also: US Embassy: Crime continues to be a problem throughout the Dominican Republic


July 12, 2011
American couple brutally murdered in Punta Cana, FBI now involved at the crime scene



The Cuban-American couple, Milagros Caridad and her husband Augustine Novoa, were shot and killed point blank by two men who entered their vacation home in the tourist area of ??Punta Cana. The assailants left alive at the couple's son, 17, and a Haitian security guard. Both were at gunpoint locked into a bathroom........ FBI is now at the scene to do a joint investigation........ Read full story
JUNE 10 2011
MAN MANY ARE DEAD IN THIS S.... HOLE OF A COUNTRY.

Below a Google translation of original Spanish article in ListinDiario.com







The body of a German who was killed by multiple stab wounds, including one in the heart, was found on Wednesday afternoon behind the counter of the Dutch airline Martinair International Airport General Gregorio Luperon La Union, Sosua.

The victim is Eric Zipfel, 46, whose badly decomposed body was discovered in a small room, because of the smell it gave off, which drew the attention of the airline staff thought it was a mouse or one animal died and began his search.

However, to surprise, instead of a dead animal, which was located the bloody corpse of Zipfel, who had several puncture wounds on his body inflicted by his killer, whose name is unknown, with a long sharp knife still was stuck in the heart.

make all the excuses for them
this piece of s...... killed a baby boy while he was at it.
why? he was upset? f....... him and f...... his whole family
he had no f....... reason to kill a baby did he?
kill your ex her new friend but a baby? f....... him and any one that sides with him and makes reasons 4 what he did this low-life

they dont belong in the states not most of them any way.
let them run wild in santo domingo where they belong with the rest of the trash that lines the streets, and let them knock each other off

THANK GOD THEY HE DID NOT KILL ANY GRINGOS THANK U GOD 4 THIS.

completely unacceptable!! RIP to those lives lost (not including the killer)

Read link posted by eauonline. The NJ news provided details to further explain and better clarified what actually happened. Collado was in deep pain and simply snapped, when he saw his wife with another man. Apparently he showed previous signs of possible mental illness. His wifes's co-worker described him to have an introverted personality type, very quiet, hard to get him to talk, had to pull words out of his mouth, which from a professional stand point is a sign to indicate mental instability. Unfortunately the colapse of finances and marriage helped trigger, what was an already deteriorated psychiatric state. He was a walking time bomb and any negative, drastic change to his personal life would have further ignited the insanity. He had obvious poor impulse, the inability to control behavior even when that behavior hurts self or harms others. This includes explosive or rage disorder a condition where people have extreme and over the top angry and violent reactions to situations.

guillermone,

Thank you for bringing more details, as well as some sanity and compassion to this discussion.

The reality is, in the west (the opposite of in the Dominican Republic) the odds are heavily stacked against a man getting a fair settlement after a marriage fails. No one is justifying this man's actions, they are totally unacceptable. However probably the woman and the system are also to blame. In Australia, and USA, far too many men commit murder-suicide and too many women commit murder attempted-suicide.

What does this tell you?

eauonline,

Thank you for the link.

From that article, it seems that on a modest income, he was paying for a house he couldn't afford and had negative equity in, and supporting a non-working wife, children and lifestyle he also couldn't afford, and perhaps a baby that wasn't his, had a gun and was a Dominican Christian, finding the woman he was still legally married to, with her new lover, in his house with his kids.

A tragic outcome but probably inevitable.

For those Dominicans who favor gun ownership (the majority of males it seems), it is worth noting that:

"States with less restrictive gun control laws have as much as eight times the rate of murder-suicides as those with the most restrictive gun control laws. "

http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/i....rtner-violence/murder-suicide.htm

Unfortunately these kinds of actions are very comment in the DR due to el 'machismo". This got nothing to do with education educated people do this shit too. It’s all about the Dominican mentality. I'm surprise this cobarde kill him self too.

ELPAPA999,

Unlike the Dominican Republic, New Jersey has a judicial system and capital punishment. However it is a very long process, and perhaps he wanted to avoid being beaten, sodomized and possibly killed while awaiting sentencing?

Maybe where it in this country, he would have known he would walk free after paying negotiated compensation to the victims' families?

honestly, when I filed for divorce with my first wife, a mexica-american, I was happy as hell to find out she found a new guy prior to the divorce being settled. It increased the speed of processing the divorce. She fought for nothing. Could not have worked out better. Now he has to take care of the money grubbing biatch and I am free! It made adios all the more sweet.

RoyStone, ---
Yea maybe you right. However, I have an idea for those cobarde weather you are Dominican or not. """"Just kill your self that way you dodn't have to deal with the fact that your ex is moving on"""

ELPAPA999,

These are not the acts of rational, logical minds. We don't know if he planned to kill himself after killing the others, of if it was a response to the realization of what he had done. Had he taken your suggestion and just killed himself, then we wouldn't be reading about it or discussing it.

In Australia, every year, about 1,400 men kill themselves as a result of losing their kids after separation. Of those about 10 (less than 1%) kill someone else as well. They are the ones that hit the headlines. If a man kills his child it's murder and he can get up to 32 years jail. If a woman kills her child up to 2 year old (or older if she still has PMT) it is infanticide with maximum 5 years jail, and is often a suspended (ie, not actually served) sentence.

Up to 12 months old, an infant is more likely to be killed or seriously injured by the natural mother than any other person, and that does not include SIDS.

This is a clear cut case of male/female double standards at its best.

guillermone,
You mean at it's worst?

Yes, true...........that is exactly right, I like to use irony and sarcasm in my use of language.

By now all this is too too late. They are dead UNFORTUNATELY. Nevertheless, as mentioned above, that NJ has a judiciary system, we are still don't know the true status of that man's case, and that judicial system of NJ or any state in the US is good for nothing.
It is a shield system for women to do as they wish with men. Where the first capital offense a man commits is to be a male/father. This is a system where if you disagree with a woman to the extend of upsetting her you can easily end up in court accused even of terrorism (No joke), and in front of a judge if that woman claims to be affraid of you, oh hell, you walk away with a beautiful maze of papers AKA Restrain Court Order. This gorgeous Court Order results in a marbelous record for requiem, where thereafter, employment may be a good bye thing for the man.
Sleep with another woman and get her upset = I'll see you in Court = You are screwed dude.
A frequent scenario of so called Domestic Violence.
She cheats = your faul

I welcome any comment of me as a Macho, Pig, etc. WELCOME! As the situation remains in the US it is better to cohabitate than to consumate in marriage. The LAW is a man's trip to the Daldrum. You are DUMMED forever.
It is not uncommun to see in Philadelphia Court for fathers to loose their rights and freedom with their children just for those rights to be given to the mother and her boyfriend/par amour, whatever.
The rights of the woman to move on and form family shall not be infringed. This is a new constitutional closure. (pun). The right of the guy to pay for her comfort is further more confirmed. You are screwed dude. (Fact). The kid(s) go with her. They are as good as an afirmed bond to forever pay that woman's way, specially if the guy's income is toward the lucrative side.
Did this happened in the above case? We do not know. The above is a tragedy altogether. I remain sympathetic of the killer until info clear the woman/boyfriend shifting all to the killer. He was HUMAN to

PENJO-Unfortunately, sometimes or rather most times the legal system in order to correct the victimization of women, has excessively shifted the burden on to the male counterpart and without direct and actual fault, men end up being severely penalized.

What is happening today, instead of correcting errors of the past, the system has simply swaped one injustice for another. No doubt we need to have safe guards set in place to protect women as member of the "weaker" sex. However, we must also find equilibrium between the two. Women compete with men on equal grounds in all areas of society except within the realms of the legal system. We clearly observe time and time again that men are at a disadvantage. We must seek and find equal grounds where competing influences are balanced and neither party suffers disastrous consecuences.

To achieve that, the legal justice system must stop adhering to mistaken, misunderstood or misguided judicial and legislative guidelines.

guillermone,

In some cases, injustices occur not from "adhering to mistaken, misunderstood or misguided judicial and legislative guidelines" but rather from deviating from them. In these cases the law is not biased, but rather its (mis)interpretation or (lack of) implementation is.

Penjo ... ' They are as good as an afirmed bond to forever pay that woman's way'

A well stated observation for all to heed...

PENJO warns,
"is better to cohabitate than to consumate in marriage."
However in many countries it does not matter if you are legally married, de-facto, common-law or shacking-up - you are still screwed. Furthermore if kids are involved, even if you find out later (by DNA test) you are not the biological father, you are still Daddy and have to pay till they're 18.

That is true Roy in fact I have a personal friend who ended up paying child support to a women he barely knew, probably slept with a few times over a couple of months. He ended the relationship almost immediately. Unfortunately, two years later he was served with a court order, to demand child support payments to an aledged 1 year old "son" from a women he had not seen or been with in over two years. But it did not matter, the court took the women's word 100% and it was done and setted. He ended up paying for 18 years. Unfortunately, by the time DNA testing became available. It was too late, the child had already reached age of maturity and the women and aledged son were nowhere to be found. There was no way he could prove wrongful paternity. But at that point it no longer mattered. Even if he could prove otherwise, the court continue to uphold their decision and it would have cost him much more in legal fees and courts costs to prove otherwise. So he simply gave up.

RoyStone, Guillermone, FedericoD, All true! Injustice Injustice, Injustice! A critical part of this is that the injustice is actually carried on by the so called officials, The Courts. Some of these court's decisions come out with no application of the law but rather bias and emotional expressions of the judges. It is an all loosing situation once the order is entered. Most people do not have unlimited resources to stay in the court system litigating their cases. These court orders have impact in people's lives, from the innocent children to the victims. On case should be enough to reconsider all this court injustice. When a father takes his life on the steps of the court house in Massachussett* becuase of a court order taking his children from him on the mother's allegations ONLY "That he was not a good father" (?), that should sound a loud enough alarm to the system. His children go now fatherless. The guy is DEAD... And on and on! Oh Lord, The Courts and its Judges! Politics!

...I would love to see the moment when Judges loose their immunity and become liable to be sued or prossecuted for their injustices. I think they should be held accountable for their actions.

By God's I know that there is innumerable number of fathers/and mothers that do not attend their children. Yes there is need of law. But just law, fair law, equal law to all, NO WOMEN FAVORTISM.

It is very simple to write an order and use the system to terrorize people to force payment, which at times are even impossible for some people to meet and pay. Yet a judge does it and if you think is not right APPEAL it... Sure let me go a get a free lawyer from the avenue.

A system overhaul is long over due!

PENJO,
In many cases this is not the judge's "fault". The die is set long before it goes before the judge. Some guys believe that if they have done nothing wrong, they only need to tell the truth and justice will prevail. Wrong! The guy taking his life on the courthouse steps is the exception. Most just put a hose in the exhaust-pipe into the car in the garage, and become just another statistic - 1400 fathers per year in Australia alone, commit suicide after losing their kids, home, friends, job and reason to live, though no fault of their own. So who cares? No one!

RoyStone,

Wow, that is impressive. Yes I totally agree with you. The decision of committing suicide is usually a premeditated process and based on many different factors. My issue with the judges, specially here in the US/Philadelphia is the part where they deviated blatantly from the norms targeting attacking fathers for the most part. At times no evidence no nothing matters because they have made up their mind against the father.
Again, one should persist and prove one's case not just rely on "justice will prevail", but at times it is exhausting to the extremes. Not every soul out there has the mental capacity to endure one of this court cases. It is ruining for educated people, imagine for the uneducated.
We put our trust in this people to rule and guard society's norms by application of the laws not to abuse it.
To deprive a parent of his or her child/ren is one of life extreme cases. It is not just a new fashion occurrence of society. So there should be repercussion for Ju

PENJO,
in the Family Court, the "best interests of the child" takes precedence over parents' "rights" and so they should. However often the mother's vindictiveness against the father is disguised as being in the best interests of the child. False allegations against the father do not need to be proved - better to play it safe and keep him away from the child. The well-funded anti-father movement has convinced many of the public, media and lawmakers that children only need mothers and not fathers (other than to provide assets and income). However child suicide, substance abuse, psychological problems and teenage pregnancy rates prove otherwise.