Santiago.- Mexico ex president Vicente Fox said Tuesday that the crime wave prompted by narcotics trafficking which affects Latin America nations is reason for concern, and the only way to end it is by legalizing drug consumption.
He said the penalty it’s perhaps the only border in the globalized world and cites as example that many countries already allow marriages among same sex couples and other nations have legalized abortion.
Fox, speaking in Dominican Republic’s second biggest city, said cigarettes do more damage than marijuana and their consumption is still legal. “In our country we say that that takes us amid two circumstances, the great drug consumption market in the United States and drugs production south of Mexico.”
He also noted Colombia’s continued drugs production and “Venezuela’s alleged facilitation of narcotics traffic”.
From: Dominican Republic, Santiago de los 30 Caballeros
It's truly amazing how former world leaders start speaking some truth after they leave public office. Why couldn't Vicente Fox come up with great idea of legalizing marijuana when he was in public office?
From: Dominican Republic, Santiago de los 30 Caballeros
Is it because the tobacco and pharmaceutical companies pointedly told the former president , OHH HELL NO?
Written by: martin, 8 Feb 2011 1:35 PM
From: United States, boston to S.P.M 23
he need tell that shit 2 his country mexico and 2 the USA AND let hear what they say after
Written by: beachbum, 8 Feb 2011 2:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic, La Playa
Instead of spending Billions and Billions of tax-money in the never ending fight against the illegal drug trade, the governments should seize control over the markets, legalize certain 'soft' drugs and use the legal trade to make some money in the form of taxes similar to alcohol and tobacco products.
Instead of burning money badly needed elsewhere and not helping anybody by doing so (the prohibition does not seem to actually stop a lot of people from using drugs but makes illegal traffickers richer every day...), they should invest this 'weed-tax-income' in education programs and prevention to actually reduce the number of future 'pot-heads'.
From: United States
i wonder who`s payng the travel expenses for this clown and who`s gonna waste time and money to go and listen to this jackass............
Written by: xwill7, 8 Feb 2011 3:18 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
People already drive crazy in DR
Written by: Atabey, 8 Feb 2011 3:28 PM
From: United States, NYC
In 40 years the US has spent 1 trillion dollars fighting the so-called "Drug War" What have we to show for all that expenditure?
By MARTHA MENDOZA, A P Writer – Thu May 13, 5:15 pm ET
MEXICO CITY – After 40 years, the United States' war on drugs has cost $1 trillion and hundreds of thousands of lives, and for what? Drug use is rampant and violence even more brutal and widespread.
Even U.S. drug czar Gil Kerlikowske concedes the strategy hasn't worked.
His first drug-fighting budget was $100 million. Now it's $15.1 billion, 31 times Nixon's amount even when adjusted for inflation.
Using Freedom of Information Act requests, archival records, federal budgets and dozens of interviews with leaders and analysts, the AP tracked where that money went, and found that the United States repeatedly increased budgets for programs that did little to stop the flow of drugs. In 40 years, taxpayers spent more than:
• $20 billion to fight the drug gangs in their home countries.
Written by: Atabey, 8 Feb 2011 3:35 PM
From: United States, NYC
In Colombia, the US spent $6 billion, while coca cultivation increased & trafficking moved to Mexico .
• $33 billion in marketing "Just Say No"-style messages to America's youth & prevention programs. HS students report the same rates of illegal drug use as they did in 1970, and the Centers for D C P says drug overdoses have "risen steadily" since the early 1970s to more than 20,000 last year.
• $49 billion for law enforcement along America's borders to cut off the flow of illegal drugs. This year, 25 million Americans will snort, swallow, inject and smoke illicit drugs, about 10 million more than in 1970,
• $121 billion to arrest more than 37 million nonviolent drug offenders, about 10 million of them for possession of marijuana. Studies show that jail time tends to increase drug abuse.
• $450 billion to lock those people up in federal prisons alone. Last year, half of all federal prisoners in the U.S. were serving sentences for drug offenses.
Written by: Yucahu, 8 Feb 2011 4:55 PM
From: United States, Miami
DannyZERO = Sh!te hahahaha Dale duro Martin pa q te repete
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
Written by: xwill7, 8 Feb 2011 3:18 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
People already drive crazy in DR
Mr Will If Dominicans were to smoke a little weed they would drive slower and be more careful.
Weed is great. Do a Google search and try to find where ONE person OD on weed. You won't find a thing. Weed should be legal.
On the other hand. People drink and drive and you know what happens then.
This world would be a more peaseful place if weed was made legal.
Fire it up.
Written by: underpar, 8 Feb 2011 5:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Fox has told this story in Mexico and he gets it! If you recall they had no major drug wars or killings while he was President.
The USA has heard this from Canada and sooner or later I believe legalization will happen.
Look at the prohibition days on booze
Why all of a sudden is there so many killings in Mexico mmm a new President changed the deal and the shit hit the fan..
Why don't we ban smoking,drinking,porn,gambling,prostitution etc...mmm the entire war on drugs is a joke. How about all the doctors who write precription drugs for folks like its candy..
I like Fox he was a great President and people should listen to this man!
I am sure all of our DR haters will love these comments but sometimes its easier to tax and give the people want then to waste money on jail time for simple possesion and slow the corruption
Written by: xwill7, 8 Feb 2011 5:09 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
elbusc,
The problem would be the people that drink romo too... Bad mix for the general public
Written by: martin, 8 Feb 2011 5:14 PM
From: United States, boston to S.P.M 23
@danny pobre d ti what ur point in writtin sooo much shit back 2 back u very mysterious asss u need help dude
Written by: CadeJ, 8 Feb 2011 5:20 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Luperon
"Like Peter Tosh says: 'LEGALIZE IT!' " -Michael Franti & Spearhead; I think I could live with that :)
Written by: riosm, 8 Feb 2011 6:21 PM
From: United States
At least he nailed that comment on Venezuela......truth be told FINALLY.
From: United States, Washington, DC
puff puff paaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssss no pase! El presidente de mexico dijo....
" said cigarettes do more damage than marijuana and their consumption is still legal"
Written by: riosm, 8 Feb 2011 7:03 PM
From: United States
ElSuavecito,
U.S tobacco with it's flavor enhancements, preservatives, boosted nicotine etc..etc.. crap....is it any wonder why the FDA wants more control over tobacco ?
U.S Tobacco is one of the single most tax product......
WHAT IF.....all cigarette smokers switched to weed, where everybody could grow there own....
where would the tax revenue come from ?
If the DR took his advice I could see it now 'Quisqueya gold" God help us.
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
Dear Mr. Rio
Being a Dominican living in sunny California, you should know better, but since you have your nose so far up white mans asses and you are brain washed just like 70% of the white man we will cut you a break, but Dud try it before you go around talking all your white trash (Bush Baby).
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
Mr.Hellborn
We are talking about weed!!!!!!!
Not Crack!!
Not Angel Dust!!!!!
Its dumb asses like yourself that make this world so freaking sick>
Study before you open your big trap....
Tobacco is worse than weed yet every day somebody lights up around you.......
Alcohol is the worst yet you and your buddies drink up all the time and then kick each other’s asses while you are drunk.
And then you think weed is bad.
Try it before you knock it
Written by: beachbum, 8 Feb 2011 9:06 PM
From: Dominican Republic, La Playa
hellborn25: "... you wouldt mind having some dick head smoking a blunt, while he juggs a 40 ounce beer sitting next to you..."
I had this experience twice (once while visiting a street café in Venlo, Netherlands and once in a beer garden in Berlin, Germany) and I did not feel anymore threatened by the weed-smokers at the tables next to me, then I'm by somebody with a bottle of rum in his hands or a cigarette in his mouth. They did not bother me at all. On the contrary, I found them to be pretty funny neighbors... at least they where laughing a lot :)
P.S.: 1. 'Weed' and 'Crack'... Apples and Oranges... Beer and Barbecue Lighter Fluid
2. In my opinion its not the question if somebody is 'Pro' or 'Contra' the consumption of weed, cigarettes, alcohol or any other similar unhealthy stimulants, the question should be which is the lesser of two evils for the communities worldwide "Controlled distribution of legal drugs" or "Uncontrolled sales of illegal drugs".
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Drug abuse is a societal problem, that must be dealt with by health/welfare entities.
Not the police, not the Courts, not the politikeros.
The US had no choice but to abrogate the Prohibition which was causing more evil than the same evil it was meant to fight. And alcohol is not a soft drug.
To me, the sale of all "natural" drugs (cannabis, opium derivates, cocaine) should be taken over by State agencies and sold OTC to users. This would take organized crime out of business and allow the state to plan some intervention, or at least control their problem population.
The chemicals (PCP, MMDA etc) should remain illegal and possession with intent should carry a mandatory life sentence.
Never will happen; too many jobs at stake , too much big interests (like say ad agencies) involved and the absence of political will from the same guys that benefit from it.
Mr Fox should have made the test while he could. He'd be dead now.
Written by: LuiGy, 8 Feb 2011 11:53 PM
From: United States
OMG OMG icant believe this. not only is this right but its just common sence . if drugs were fully legal do you think a kilo would cost 30 grand? NO, it would cost about what it actually cost to pruduce, maybe the same as a bag of flour. legalize the motherf***ing thing already.
Written by: LuiGy, 8 Feb 2011 11:54 PM
From: United States
elBuscoon
more people die from alcohol and tobacco than all illegal drugs combined
Written by: LuiGy, 9 Feb 2011 12:01 AM
From: United States
Written by: riosm, 9 Feb 2011 12:56 AM
From: United States
El Bus coon ass,
Your proof there is safety in distance.
Written by: ateo2010 
, 9 Feb 2011 1:41 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Owning Noobs
Basta and joseana must be happy for this message
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
LuiGy
Great link. Interesting program.
But it won't apply to the US because the US doesn't want the drug abuse to end.
It's like here with the electricity.
From: United States
Sounds to me like the only reason why Vincente Fox wants pot legalized is because he is on the business end of pot production or transportation. I say, let Mexico be the first to legalize marijuana. Then all of the pot users in the US will flock to Mexico thus reaping a HUGE revenue stream to the Mexican oligarchy and local businesses.
Written by: lovingit, 9 Feb 2011 12:42 PM
From: United States, Delaware
WOW!!!!
Giving the number of minuses given to those opposing legalization of drugs I have to say that this site is full of dope heads
No wonder 3/4s of the comments don't make any sense whatsover!
Written by: ateo2010 
, 9 Feb 2011 1:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Owning Noobs
lovingit,
Don't include me in your list of 'dop head' because I never done and will never do drugs, I don't need that stuff unlike others, sex, and music is enough for me. I agree that they should legalize marijuana because there's a lot of money being spent trying to take it off the streets, make it legal and take taxes from them!.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
Being a Dominican living in sunny California, you should know better, but since you have your nose so far up white mans asses and you are brain washed just like 70% of the white man we will cut you a break, but Dud try it before you go around talking all your white trash (Bush Baby).
yea buscoon typical racist remarks from a no balls liberal panty waste likes yourself, so you want to legalised marijuana so bad moved to amsterdamn with there rest of your crackhead buddies, there you could all drink and smoke and have sex with all the tranvesties amsterdam has to offer! trust and believe no american with common sence would legalise marijuana.
Written by: riosm, 9 Feb 2011 2:17 PM
From: United States
Hellborn25,
buscoon is a trash in trash out type of guy.....or just over flowing, he can't help himself.
Without being or sounding judgmental the world is full of buscoons is it any wonder the world is so screwed up ?
I'm reminded of two saying that come mind.
1. "the object is not try and expose someone but rather give it time they'll expose themselves".
2. "What comes out of ones mind [in this case written type] is an indication of whats in ones heart".
Written by: lovingit, 9 Feb 2011 4:43 PM
From: United States, Delaware
Ateo,
I understand your point, and that would make sense if a large consuming nation such as the U.S or the EU legalized it. DR is not a large consumer at all, we are simply a transit point. Legalizig will not benefit DR at all because of this.
Written by: riosm, 9 Feb 2011 7:27 PM
From: United States
Lovingit,
I second that.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
He is like that last piece of nugget of shit that wont flush in the toilet .
Written by: riosm, 10 Feb 2011 12:33 PM
From: United States
Hellborn25,
LOthe loudest.......or that second to last piece of nugget that for some reason gets pushed back in.....I guess for some people things are just hard to let go.
It's truly amazing how former world leaders start speaking some truth after they leave public office. Why couldn't Vicente Fox come up with great idea of legalizing marijuana when he was in public office?
Is it because the tobacco and pharmaceutical companies pointedly told the former president , OHH HELL NO?
Instead of burning money badly needed elsewhere and not helping anybody by doing so (the prohibition does not seem to actually stop a lot of people from using drugs but makes illegal traffickers richer every day...), they should invest this 'weed-tax-income' in education programs and prevention to actually reduce the number of future 'pot-heads'.
By MARTHA MENDOZA, A P Writer – Thu May 13, 5:15 pm ET
MEXICO CITY – After 40 years, the United States' war on drugs has cost $1 trillion and hundreds of thousands of lives, and for what? Drug use is rampant and violence even more brutal and widespread.
Even U.S. drug czar Gil Kerlikowske concedes the strategy hasn't worked.
His first drug-fighting budget was $100 million. Now it's $15.1 billion, 31 times Nixon's amount even when adjusted for inflation.
Using Freedom of Information Act requests, archival records, federal budgets and dozens of interviews with leaders and analysts, the AP tracked where that money went, and found that the United States repeatedly increased budgets for programs that did little to stop the flow of drugs. In 40 years, taxpayers spent more than:
• $20 billion to fight the drug gangs in their home countries.
• $33 billion in marketing "Just Say No"-style messages to America's youth & prevention programs. HS students report the same rates of illegal drug use as they did in 1970, and the Centers for D C P says drug overdoses have "risen steadily" since the early 1970s to more than 20,000 last year.
• $49 billion for law enforcement along America's borders to cut off the flow of illegal drugs. This year, 25 million Americans will snort, swallow, inject and smoke illicit drugs, about 10 million more than in 1970,
• $121 billion to arrest more than 37 million nonviolent drug offenders, about 10 million of them for possession of marijuana. Studies show that jail time tends to increase drug abuse.
• $450 billion to lock those people up in federal prisons alone. Last year, half of all federal prisoners in the U.S. were serving sentences for drug offenses.
From: United States, El cuarto bate
People already drive crazy in DR
Mr Will If Dominicans were to smoke a little weed they would drive slower and be more careful.
Weed is great. Do a Google search and try to find where ONE person OD on weed. You won't find a thing. Weed should be legal.
On the other hand. People drink and drive and you know what happens then.
This world would be a more peaseful place if weed was made legal.
Fire it up.
The USA has heard this from Canada and sooner or later I believe legalization will happen.
Look at the prohibition days on booze
Why all of a sudden is there so many killings in Mexico mmm a new President changed the deal and the shit hit the fan..
Why don't we ban smoking,drinking,porn,gambling,prostitution etc...mmm the entire war on drugs is a joke. How about all the doctors who write precription drugs for folks like its candy..
I like Fox he was a great President and people should listen to this man!
I am sure all of our DR haters will love these comments but sometimes its easier to tax and give the people want then to waste money on jail time for simple possesion and slow the corruption
The problem would be the people that drink romo too... Bad mix for the general public
" said cigarettes do more damage than marijuana and their consumption is still legal"
U.S tobacco with it's flavor enhancements, preservatives, boosted nicotine etc..etc.. crap....is it any wonder why the FDA wants more control over tobacco ?
U.S Tobacco is one of the single most tax product......
WHAT IF.....all cigarette smokers switched to weed, where everybody could grow there own....
where would the tax revenue come from ?
If the DR took his advice I could see it now 'Quisqueya gold" God help us.
Being a Dominican living in sunny California, you should know better, but since you have your nose so far up white mans asses and you are brain washed just like 70% of the white man we will cut you a break, but Dud try it before you go around talking all your white trash (Bush Baby).
Mr.Hellborn
We are talking about weed!!!!!!!
Not Crack!!
Not Angel Dust!!!!!
Its dumb asses like yourself that make this world so freaking sick>
Study before you open your big trap....
Tobacco is worse than weed yet every day somebody lights up around you.......
Alcohol is the worst yet you and your buddies drink up all the time and then kick each other’s asses while you are drunk.
And then you think weed is bad.
Try it before you knock it
hellborn25: "... you wouldt mind having some dick head smoking a blunt, while he juggs a 40 ounce beer sitting next to you..."
I had this experience twice (once while visiting a street café in Venlo, Netherlands and once in a beer garden in Berlin, Germany) and I did not feel anymore threatened by the weed-smokers at the tables next to me, then I'm by somebody with a bottle of rum in his hands or a cigarette in his mouth. They did not bother me at all. On the contrary, I found them to be pretty funny neighbors... at least they where laughing a lot :)
P.S.: 1. 'Weed' and 'Crack'... Apples and Oranges... Beer and Barbecue Lighter Fluid
2. In my opinion its not the question if somebody is 'Pro' or 'Contra' the consumption of weed, cigarettes, alcohol or any other similar unhealthy stimulants, the question should be which is the lesser of two evils for the communities worldwide "Controlled distribution of legal drugs" or "Uncontrolled sales of illegal drugs".
Not the police, not the Courts, not the politikeros.
The US had no choice but to abrogate the Prohibition which was causing more evil than the same evil it was meant to fight. And alcohol is not a soft drug.
To me, the sale of all "natural" drugs (cannabis, opium derivates, cocaine) should be taken over by State agencies and sold OTC to users. This would take organized crime out of business and allow the state to plan some intervention, or at least control their problem population.
The chemicals (PCP, MMDA etc) should remain illegal and possession with intent should carry a mandatory life sentence.
Never will happen; too many jobs at stake , too much big interests (like say ad agencies) involved and the absence of political will from the same guys that benefit from it.
Mr Fox should have made the test while he could. He'd be dead now.
more people die from alcohol and tobacco than all illegal drugs combined
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ0G336H1OI
Your proof there is safety in distance.
Great link. Interesting program.
But it won't apply to the US because the US doesn't want the drug abuse to end.
It's like here with the electricity.
Giving the number of minuses given to those opposing legalization of drugs I have to say that this site is full of dope heads
No wonder 3/4s of the comments don't make any sense whatsover!
Don't include me in your list of 'dop head' because I never done and will never do drugs, I don't need that stuff unlike others, sex, and music is enough for me. I agree that they should legalize marijuana because there's a lot of money being spent trying to take it off the streets, make it legal and take taxes from them!.
Being a Dominican living in sunny California, you should know better, but since you have your nose so far up white mans asses and you are brain washed just like 70% of the white man we will cut you a break, but Dud try it before you go around talking all your white trash (Bush Baby).
yea buscoon typical racist remarks from a no balls liberal panty waste likes yourself, so you want to legalised marijuana so bad moved to amsterdamn with there rest of your crackhead buddies, there you could all drink and smoke and have sex with all the tranvesties amsterdam has to offer! trust and believe no american with common sence would legalise marijuana.
buscoon is a trash in trash out type of guy.....or just over flowing, he can't help himself.
Without being or sounding judgmental the world is full of buscoons is it any wonder the world is so screwed up ?
I'm reminded of two saying that come mind.
1. "the object is not try and expose someone but rather give it time they'll expose themselves".
2. "What comes out of ones mind [in this case written type] is an indication of whats in ones heart".
I understand your point, and that would make sense if a large consuming nation such as the U.S or the EU legalized it. DR is not a large consumer at all, we are simply a transit point. Legalizig will not benefit DR at all because of this.
I second that.
LOthe loudest.......or that second to last piece of nugget that for some reason gets pushed back in.....I guess for some people things are just hard to let go.