Oh Lord.

And to think, THIS is where ouor tax dollars are going?!?!...a FREE ride back?....Wasn't it Santana who sang "Go back, Jack, Do it again?".....What's it gonna take?

Now these guys are perfect for a job within the Domincan governemnt of Leonel or Hippolito they seem to have the perfect qualifications.

I wonder what checks are kept on the criminal element when they are back in the DR . The reason I ask is that I know of a street in a poor area of la Romana that has been terrorised by two criminals sent back from the USA .
I imagine that these ex criminals take up their old habits of drug dealing and assaults when they return to the DR ..it is a very big worry in our society that is increasingly nervous about venturing outside their homes at night .

Clearly not and area where we should lead.

All very shameful and diminishing to our pride, and the hard work of so amny dominican immigrants who are honest, enterprising and very good citizens.

MJEV.

Sosua beach has been overrun by these cockroaches.

They break into any shack there and steal anything.

What a paradise................

There are more than 1.3 million Dominicans living in the USA , with the highest concentration in new york and new jersey , Dominicans have the highest percentage in prison than of any other country ,,based on numbers living in the usa ...and if you take a figure of 5% which is lower than the percentage for black americans , then that gives the number of Dominican prisoners at around 65,000.
It could be argued that when only 3 or 4 thousand are sent back to the DR , that this is a low percentage of Dominicans in USA prisons , but may be these are the very worst ..
What ever the reason I am sure some form of monitoring is required simply because history shows a pattern of reoffending .

I don't know why there is no treaty between the US and DR, akin to what exists between the US and other countries.

Most inmates don't serve the full term in the US, and they are deported just like that.

Treaties in other cases specify that the country of destination will receive the prisoner as if he were starting a new term equivalent to the remainder of his US jail term.

So they can evaluate and keep tabs on the cons.

Obviously, the current system pleases them. Those guys look pretty happy. How long was it since they had a trago de Brugal con una chamaca?

I know that all of these deportees have to check in with the PN but after that who knows. I am sure that most of these guys would my first suspects in any crimes. Anyways, at least call centers have a new bunch of potential employees. My wife spent time working in one, and she said most of the other employees were deportees and many would fumar la vaina on their breaks and there was a lot of identity teft and bank fraud going on there. Also the payroll was stolen a few times at gun point. She hated that job.

Better them than me.

This will only increase the crime rate in DR, they cant control their own criminals, never mind the ones schooled in the US prisons

Monitoring?

Yeah. Right. Sure.

But not here.

The biggest criminals on our island are the ones in charge of protecting it. Why would they want to keep tabs on criminals being sent back to ravage our local communities when that would require work? We have much bigger problems starting with our leader who is bed with criminals making his money from them. Our government defines corruption. Our legal system is a complete joke and we haven't even mastered electricity yet! If we took back all money and assets LF and his political friends have stolen from us in the last 8 years we could pay off all our debts and be a debt free country tomorrow. What a thought huh?

Dominican's avoid these people like the plague. It sucks because the trust that people used to have is gone. Leonel was right, nos convertiremos en un Nueva York chiquito.

nueva yoi

The trash has arrived and will be dumped on every neighborhood in santo domingo.

DR should not accept them back. Likely as not the US has turned them into criminals. It's up to the US to rehabilitate and educate them then maintain them on parole.

US after all gets rich from all the work carried out by immigrants from the DR who work at very low rates.

S.

GeeWhizMiller261,

Good thing in the U.S we have the revolving door which lead to 3 strikes and your out, private security, car alarms, home alarms, hidden video cameras, low-jack, home computer security monitor systems, I.D theft protection companies, neighborhood watch programs, CCW permits, watch dogs heck we even have pepper spray and electric zappers not to add self defense such as karate, kung-fu etc..etc.. under the name of promoting good health and exercise.

Let's see with high unemployment rate and the lure of quick easy money could the DR be headed for a.....just in time for the 'hot summer months' mini crime wave with the new criminal skills obtain in the U.S by these deportees ?

God I hope not.

Abc200,

It's up to TWO loving parents to raise their children into responsible adults.

What ever happened to taking personal responsibility for one's action.

Maybe these deportees thought the U.S criminal system was like back home ?

"it's up to the U.S to rehabilitate and educate criminals" are you referring to crime pays ?

In America every one has a chance to EXCEED not RESEED.

Are you talking legal or illegal immigrants ?

Illegals come by choice.

I was just wondering, what happens to the guys who have no place to stay when they get here?

come on riosm don't try and pull the wool - it won't wash!
what happens in the states is that young people commit crime so their parents pay for them to go to brat camps. When they return they have really high status.
At boot camps and the like young people get really good training to be criminals. They seldom get caught. Estimates are that in some communities 30% are engaged in some criminal activity.
When a poor, badly trained Dominican falls among these American Fagin's he ends up the fall guy and gets caught.
Of course the US should rehabilitate the Dominicans.
S.

***" Santo Domingo.– In the past six months the United States has deported more 2,000 criminals back to the Caribbean, of which 1,066 were Dominican, the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) reported.****"

Hey, welcome landing to the already confusion place, you can develop your networks by bribing the government officials, police , military, ....etc.

Once you have established your networks, you have easy money to make.

This is the type of news I hate to see about the Dominican Republic. These morons and delinquents give all the law abiding and society enhancing good Dominicans a bad rap. I am an American Immigration lawyer and I have had offices here in the DR for the past four years. Every time I read of these deportees it makes me sad and sick at the same time. Sad because many of my current and past clients, who so desperately want to join their families are often denied a visa for reasons that go unexplained ( I am sorry to say, but here are many of the reasons that the US, Spain and other European countries have gotten so strict on immigration policies). Sick because these degenerates ruin it for the much larger percentage of law abiding Dominicans.

(con't) Thanks you bunch of useless morons. And as many of those above have so eloquently put it, Welcome back. I am sure that you will fit right in with the current and future political ruling regimes, and in turn thrive in your previously chosen and failed careers as criminals.

Man these guys come into the country to continue doing the only thing they know how to do, be a delinquent. The authorities should keep track of these guys and have them under surveillance or obtain information from the US government regarding the crimes committed. I am sure some of them deserve to be put in prison as soon as they step on Dominican soil.

Certainly not good to issue visas to Dominicans and others to visit the USA - many will get corrupted, end up in prison or deported. US has a huge and increasing prison population.
Most likely the US does a Dominican a favor or helps the Dominican Republic when it refuses a visa.
The Dominican could end up in the corrupt prison system.
http://tomdiaz.wordpress.com/2009....house-prison-corruption-part-one/
Or if its someone with qualifications gets a visa and the DR will loose a nurse, a doctor, an engineer.
Europe is quite rightly trying to use more local people for jobs and reduce special categories for visas. UK just killed the category for take-away chefs - burger flipper. Now a chef coming to the UK has to show good training in their home country and a record of earning good money there.

Those that the US has trained in crime should be rehabilitated before expulsion.

S.

the black eyes for all dominicans.
it all comes back to the education problem.
the point is that investments in science, technology and math education is needed for the dominican students.if the dr is to be catapulted into the the modern world technology is so crucial to society that people rarely stop to think that, on its own technology does not accomplish much, integrating technology into everyday life is what makes it indispensable.
in 1960 this might be hard to imagine, but it took a dozen employees almost three hours to book one seat on american airlines.
today it takes an average of three seconds.
the world becomes ever more competitive.the dr must invest into science, technology and math education. or the plane's will continue landing in santo domingo every month.

Check out this short story. It's not about DR but it's about this topic.

http://video.nytimes.com/video/20....as/100000000733274/deportees.html

XYZ002 found a new crack dealer down in las terrenas.........

When is jolly old england going to rehabilitate you!!!!

attention please i have some thing i need to tell u.about your {EXPLETIVE} comment below.

Those that the US has trained in crime should be rehabilitated before expulsion.
i worked with many of the young, trying to place them on the right track in life.
some who i did not see more a few years when we got the chance to run into each other said to me
"DANNY GUESS WHAT'?. IAM GOING TO NEW YORK MY UNCLE IS TRYING TO MAKE A VISA FOR ME AND IAM GOING TO BE WORKING FOR HIM.
OK! GREAT I WOULD SAY, BUT WHAT IS IT THAT YOUR GOING TO BE DOING FOR YOUR UNCLE IN NEW YORK CITY? HEY! IAM GOING TO SELL DRUGS FOR HIM!.
HAVE A GREAT {EXPLETIVE} ING DAY IN THE U.K MR ABC.

Written by: super_lover, 19 Apr 2011 12:16 PM
From: Haiti
I was just wondering, what happens to the guys who have no place to stay when they get here?

THEY GO TO YOUR HOUSE! LOL.

Written by: hernandez5482, 19 Apr 2011 2:01 PM
From: United States
Man these guys come into the country to continue doing the only thing they know how to do, be a delinquent. The authorities should keep track of these guys and have them under surveillance,
GREAT IDEA AND I LIKE IT, THE PROBLEM I SEE IS WHO IS GOING TO "KEEP TRACK ON THE PEOPLE "THAT ARE KEEPING TRACK?"
AS I WROTE MANY TIMES ON THIS SITE.
"THE POLICE AND THE ARMY AND THE GOVERNMENT "BRING THEIR OWN CRIME WAVE TO THE PEOPLE OF THE DR.".

IN SOUTH KOREA THE YOUNG START SCHOOL AT 7AM MOST SCHOOL DAYS FINISH AT 7-9PM...
most parents send 35-40% of their income on education for their children.

say no more u guys know what u have to do dont u?

no plane fulls of people from this country leavfing each month.with u.s. marshalls on board.

Damn, 1,066 more politicians.

Abc200,

Those "brats camps" are paid by U.S TAX DOLLARS.

That "High status" all among the criminals them selves, they don't care now they'll care later "Pay now you will pay later" and that "don't give a F***" mentality.

If I were an employer I WOULD NEVER HIRE A X-CON, I'll be in to make money not have it stolen, it's about trust !

Would you feel safe with a criminal Doctor or Nurse ? Maybe to serve fellow criminals.

I'm sure that flipped burger will have that special taste, not for me.

Prison is made to serve time and at the same time save society from those who would hurt them.

"DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T TO DO THE TIME".

I believe legal immigration should not be regulated.

Only a very small percentage never return to prison or live a life of crime.

INTERESTING is to see that there is NO DOMINICAN complaining of the "Evil USA" that DEPORTED these individulas, includding myself...

I just think if the Head line would have said, domincan republic DEPORTS... how many BShitters would have been here doing what they do best???

Ok, Don't Be Silent, they can stay at my house under one condition - You have to clean the bathrooms twice a day. LOL

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These guys will feel right at home here with McDonalds, Burger King, Pizza Hut, KFC, Dominos Pizza, and the rest. They will work at 'call centers' and their families living in the US will supplement their incomes via Western Union. Who knows, they may even contribute to the success of the DR over time - wasn't Australia infested with criminals during their beginnings?

" The authorities should keep track of these guys and have them under surveillance or obtain information from the US government regarding the crimes committed. I am sure some of them deserve to be put in prison as soon as they step on Dominican soil. "

Why? If they haven't broken any Dominican laws they do not deserve to be in a Dominican jail nor do they deserve to be harassed by Dominican authorities.

Oh Goody more tour guides for the Colonial Zone

gmiller261,

now that was funny..and soooooooooooooo true! I also liked the zona colonial tour guide comment.

You have to laugh about this or you might just find yourself crying. It is a despicable reality for many of these "get rich quick" thugs. Yeah, sell some drugs and wear your bling.But, I have to admit the culture and media in the US doesn't help this by their shameless promotion of the idea that everyone deserves to be rich without putting in the time for education and hard work.

And that's the damn problem!!! They go to the States doing the same crap they did here in the DR as if its just another day!! BEHOLD!!! USA has LAWS!! and the POLICE enforce them!! I am shocked that we have not heard (AND MORE THAN 1/2 OF THESE CRIMINALS ALSO ATTEMPTED TO BRIBE POLICE OFFICIALS) Again, I'm totally shocked unless it was not reported...And for you folks that don't live here, that's the norm!!! everyone tries? to pay off the police here...However, it works! If you ran a light (LOL another normal action here) and a cop that was not sleeping decides to stop you, hand him 200 pesos, he may hug you to boot!

Ah, Walterpolo...They don't look happy, they are happy! Why, because they know damn well they would have done some hard time in the States..I'm pretty sure it was offered to them, do your time for your crime or go back to your Country...Hell, don't need to ask me twice...Gone in 60 seconds waiting on line to board my flight..Zoom Zoom! I'm outta here!

I've seen living proof that Charles Darwin was wrong: ABC [aka "Mucho Loco"].

Is there no bottom to this individual's well of babbling gibberish? He was obviously a moocher, miscreant in the UK, and he is pushing for similar rights in USA for his compadres. Perhaps he could employ many of of these fine individuals in one of his various imaginary enterprises.

MJEV,

Fritz,
Good post, well put.

MJEV Mad Planet trasher calling me names again.
Perhaps Darwin was not right - humans regress. MJEV much more than most!
There was more carnage though the actions of humans in the last century than the whole of previous history.
MJEV supports the planet trashing corporations that are run by the true retrograde elements in our society.
S.

Hey ABC,

Honest! I thought of you when I visited Pompeii this past year, especially when I saw the urine re-cycling station. Man, that was you all the way!

BTW, I truly hope that the 1st nuclear power station in DR will be installed in Samana and right in your neighborhood. Look, I already live five miles away from the Ginna Nuclear Power Station here in Rochester, NY.

MJEV.

I'm sure they are happy as hell to get out of there. Even better, a free ride home.

They should give all their names so the honest people here can look out for these people

@Cuba,

Likely, greater than half will try to make it back to USA within a year, by any possible means.

Strange that the way some paint Cuba here no one seems eager to emigrate there. I know that my own relatives there [Cuba] would leave in a second if permitted to. I don't see anybody emigrating to Russia or China, either-I truly wonder why!.

MJEV.

Well I appreciate the fact that we're number 1 in something.

VivaCuba,

AHH ! you ain't seen nothing....those Cubans boat people who are lucky enough to hit the Florida shore are in tears jumping for joy kissing beach sand.

MJEV
I used to work at a factory that had a small nuke reactor for test purposes. The main risk seemed to be getting the nuclear products to and from the factory. An army squadron was used. About 20 well armed men.
Wind and solar are much better in many circumstances. Nuclear is only just ahead of coal and gas as it produces no GHG. Present plants are far too big - makes containment impossible. Something the size of a submarine reactor is far easier to operate safely; there are various shutdown mechanisms that are not available on a bigger scale and containment is far easier with the possibility of total protection of the water table.
Yes I would sell your property in the heart of the evil empire quick and move to a nice green country. Maybe Costa Rica or DR.

The Romans were also famous for their fish ponds producing edible fish - so far ahead of their time in so many fields. We know the oceans are rising because these fish ponds are now under water in several loc

riosm, theyre jumping for joy because your stupid moron government is handing out 10000 cash to each one of them. then they tell the rest of them and they come for the cash handout. Other americans are leaving the usa because theyre tired of footing the bill for this insanity. enjoy your new arrivals

@Cuba,

Must give credit where credit is due........above comment was great comeback! I never really thought about it that way, and just hope it isn't really true.

MJEV.

VivaCuba,

If true..........at least most Cubans who choose to migrate to the U.S later become productive new Americans citizens, another black eye to the Cuban Gov. and their failed system.

"footing the insanity bill" just wait till 2012. At least Obama will get the welfare and unemployment vote, who says you can't twist votes.

God willing the next Prez. of the U.S in 2018 may be a Cuban American from Florida.

Imagine that Cuban a "prison Island".

Please give us the number of immigration legal and illegal into Cuba for a piece of that great Cuban life style.

Funny what's never mentioned is the total of $ that is given and wasted to the Cuban military against who ? VS. there own people.

ABC hitting the bong early in the morning, as usual

Certainly not good to issue visas to Dominicans and others to visit the USA - many will get corrupted, end up in prison or deported.

sure, ABC. they were choir boys when they arrived in the bad ole USA. now, Uncle Sam has turned them into delinquents....there must be some good smoke up there in Las Terrenas.

Better they visit a country with a low prison population; countries such as UK; Japan; Thailand and socialist democracies such as South Africa.
The 'ghetto' awaits them in the US.
Two Brits got shot dead in Florida the other day.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/n....rists-who-strayed-into.6754176.jp

S.

yes, ABC, better they go to South Africa, and hang about in the most dangerous urban environments anywhere.

It's even dangerous to wait for a job at McDondalds in the US - better to visit the brothers in South Africa.
http://www.southafrica.net/sat/content/en/us/us-home
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_South_Africa
S.

@abc,

Please allow me to repeat myself, I've seen living proof that Charles Darwin erred: abc200.

Man, you've totally challenged theory of "Natural Selection and Survival of the Fittest".

BTW, while you are at it castigating the USA for its murder rate and such, have you considered those stories emanating from Puerto Plata Province about foreigners being murdered? No, that really didn't happen and it was clearly a fabrication of the contrarian media. Yeah, right!

MJEV.

Abc 123,

Low prison population like the "United Wild Kingdom" [UWK] what crime ?

Smart move......If it's not a written law then one then can't break the law.

Mass public unrest about lost union entitlements, large radical Muslim population.

Myself like many who post on DT would never visit or vacation in the UWK anyway.

Thailand were if one is caught chewing gum one can be imprisoned, a little public caning now and then, death penalty, stiff prison sentencing and lot's of child prostitution / pornography and the worship of there penis god.....what law ?

South Africa.....swift public executions by the locals, no need for prisons.

As far as Japan is concern it's their culture, honor and upbringing besides they have enough of their own problems already.

As far as McDonalds......no more happy meals, extra drive throws or hot coffee to go with your next order.

Ask your self this....who would give up a big $ unemployment checks for minimum wage ?

Abc-123

Police have yet released all information regarding this double murder. So speculate all you want, but one thing is for sure, Consider this.....
1. These victims were found in a awkward place.
2. Shot in the head execution style ?
3. Possible robbery / kidnapping / loured ?
4. Maybe these two were in over there heads [literally] over something ?
Things aren't always as they seem.

You can rest assure this investigation is far from over and justice will be served OR if caught....

maybe THE U.S CRIMINAL COURT SYSTEM CAN THEN TRY SOME OF THAT REHABILITATION then deportation to say like....the UWK ? With low prison population ? this suspect / suspects is so well deserved and entitled too.

NOTHING LIKE A HAPPY ENDING HUH !

Relief ? So far no connection that the possible suspect / s in this terrible horrific monstrous crime is Dominican.

My heart felt condolences go to the victims Family and friends.

wow ABC sounds a lot like Yanadu

Yes Miami's murder rate is twice that of New York.
http://miamifl.areaconnect.com/cr....p;s1=FL&c2=new+york&s2=NY
Good training ground for criminals!
Better not to give visa.
The USA like the UK should not give visas to riff-raff ; with luck they won't want to visit anyway.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article2980432.ece

S.

MJEV - please give us your opinion on the subject of 'Was Harriet really collected by Charles Darwin' as you are wise in all things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_(tortoise)
Actually 'the tortoise and the hare'
S.

Bri
Who is Yanadu - youv'e lost me!
S.

@abc,

Wisest statement you've ever made: """The USA like the UK should not give visas to riff-raff ; with luck they won't want to visit anyway""""

Man, there is yet hope for you!

MJEV.

riosm states

Thailand were if one is caught chewing gum one can be imprisoned,

i think you are speaking of Singapore with the chewing gum. the reason why it is illegal is because delinquents use it to cover the electronic sensors on the subways, jamming the doors .

All I say if the U.S. wants to end criminality amongst people who migrate here and make sure that when they deport them back to there country of origins that they are jailed in that country or else tell that government if they don't adhere to this no more aid, no more money, sent to those countries I garuantee you those corrupt politicians would make sure to enforce the laws and make sure those criminals don't go back and do harm to the native people who are law abiding citizens. So many countries rely on the U.S. for help and it's to our advantage that we put a stop to the criminals who come here and don't obey our laws. This goes for any country including U.S. territories.

Curlando, guess it does not pay for non-citizens to commit petty crimes in the U S. They need to use their brain and look in the mirror because when you black you get screwed worldwide this is why DR culture denies their blackness.

Lightblack,

Now I'll probably be labeled a racist for posting this....oh well ! Takes one to know one ?

50 years ago I would of agreed 100%, now we have a half Black prez. and were all getting screwed 100%.

Ever considered all the Black music entertainers, producers, politicians, athletics, teachers, lawyers and business owners etc..etc.. how much do they help their fellow Black people ?

In my opinion a good percentage of Blacks in America today are still living in the "invisible chains of slavery" mentality.

Why is it that more then half of the Black children in America don't have Black fathers around ?

Why is it Black on Black crime is still higher then Black on White, Asian or Latino crime ?

Why is it Black rap degrades Black woman and woman in general ?

Why why why ?

1st I was bought up with 2 parents so your YOUR 1ST question I can not answer. 2nd & 3rd question when you start 400 yrs. behind your slavemaster kids it a little while to catch up with their level of success. One question for you, why are Dominicans black as David Ortiz say they are not black? Riosm where are you?

When I was in Sosua lst month I got a ride from a motoconcho. He tried to sell me marijuana and cocaine and wasn't too happy when I refused.

The guy spoke fluent English. I bet he was one of these deportees who spent time in the U.S. penitentiary system and was deported back to the D.R.

LightBlack,

Me two both Parents, in the DR we also have the same problem.

Black Americans were not the first or last ones who lived under oppression in American.

We Dominicans are like the real original melting pot of the western hemisphere.

Our current Prez. is identified by many Blacks in Americans as being Black [first Black Prez.] yet they forget he's half White.

400 years....is this an excuse or your answer ? I'll still call it the "invisible chains of slavery" it's a mind set, you nor I were ever slaves. It's like taking one step froward then taking two steps back.

One can only take responsibility for now and the future, many Blacks in America from childhood have been embedded with this "It's not your fault, your ancestors were slaves".

The other day I heard a Black call another Black "my nigga" Blacks owning Blacks now ?

Why is it Blacks use that "Nigga" word ?

Only they could offend themselves ?

I Even find that word offensive.

Dreadlocks,

It also has to do with finding it stuck on the side walks too.

Why is that all Dominicans still use jerry curls from the 70's and they all bleach their skin and straighten their hair and do everything in their power to try to be white?I don't make excuses facts are the facts.

@ MJEV
@abc,

Wisest statement you've ever made: """The USA like the UK should not give visas to riff-raff ; with luck they won't want to visit anyway""""

Man, there is yet hope for you!

MJEV.

Definitely made a mistake when they gave visas to a planet trasher like you!
S

LightBlack,

Say what ! the Michael Jackson syndrome minus the surgery....

There probably Dominicans on the east coast trying to fit in ? Trying to create a new style ? Make a splash in the GQ scene ? Living in a time warp ?

Not in California that went out of style with Don Cornelius, Afro-sheen and soul train.

Imagine that.....In Jamaica they are doing the same thing !

I'm curious....does using "LightBlack" as a name have anything to do with this ?

And to think I was born in the DR and lived in the U.S all my life, I refuse to dye my hair or wear a wig, I'm satisfied the way God made me and will age gracefully, but I'm still trying to save any single strand of hair possible.

Get this....I some times get offend when I'm called Italian, Spanish, Mexican or Iranian, middle eastern instead of Dominicano which says it all.

@abc,

Sorry you harbor so much ill will toward USA for having deported you.

BTW, you still make Charles Darwin look like a bloody fool!

You are living proof why drinking your own urine should be banned.

MJEV.

Yea because I understand my roots and don't deny them like everyone in the DR. Black for us is a culture not a color so we don't try to pass as white from Spain.

"Sorry you harbor so much ill will toward USA for having deported you.

BTW, you still make Charles Darwin look like a bloody fool!

You are living proof why drinking your own urine should be banned."

Very stale and repetitive. Now we all know for sure you are training for a bit part in a forthcoming remake of 'Planet of the Apes'

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=7642
http://www.showbizspy.com/article....s-knocked-about-with-monkeys.html
Is it all an Armenian plot?

It's your last chance to go places.......
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_new....ndangered-places-around-the-world
Planet trashers march forward into the abyss! Luke fon Fabre never saw outside the mansion.
S.

S.

LightBlack,

I'm sorry all I understand is LightBlack why not full, all, dark or 100% BLACK ?

Black, White, Red, Yellow and Brown are just colors.....sounds like side stepping Mother Africa ?

I never ever in my life classified myself as a Spaniard in fact I'm one of very few who probably are disgusted and ashame of my Spanish Historic roots. Just look at history.

I'll repeat myself....one can't take responsibility nor should one be held accountable for past errors .
So are you then LightBlack, DarkBlack, MidiumBlack or just plain color BLACK ? Nothing like the color game it gives people purpose and an excuse to side step issues.


Can you tell me what color is god ?

watcher 48 thats right. no free ride for the american taxpayer fool. why does usa pay to deport dominicans also pay to IMPORT cubans ...10000usd for each one??????? I think the us taxpayer fool is getting screwed TWICE and thats only on this topic. Imagine how mnay hundredds of times the fools up north enjoy being slaves and abused by their mafia leaders

VivaCuba,

Your real funny........Cubans in Cuba don't get taxed because they have no jobs, income, future and have nothing and will never get nothing either.

U.S Taxes are taken for services served with rights, freedom which you know and will never know nothing about.

Meanwhile Fidel is kicking back in his Havana mansion living the good life at the expense of the real stupid Cuban prison Island slaves, tell me how long are the food and health lines these days ?

In Cuba the Black market runs smooth, high Cuban gov. officials run it and live the real mafia leader good life.

In Cuba the Gov. is the socialist mafia, they control and regulate you, your Gov. is a scam and have the Cubans think were all the same.......NOTHING.

Cubans get screwed 24/7 nite-time included.

Please send us the numbers of how many people sneak into Cuba yearly to live the good Cuban life style.

Even you know better....you live in the DR, why ?

RIsom black is black that what you dummies don't understand light medium dark all the same.The same amont of people that sneak in the DR sneak in Cuba.

LightBlack,

Some people are color blind like ME !

As MLK once said something like this...."Man should not be judged not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character".

If it's alright with you I'll label all people of color White, Black / light, mid, dark, Brown, Yellow or Red HUMAN with the same wants and needs.

"All men are created equal and made in the image of God".

"The same amount of people sneak in the DR sneak in Cuba" now that's news to me, I just wonder how many that sneak into Cuba ever get a FREE chance to leave.

Get this I was labeled a racist just because I don't agree with Obama's foreign or domestic policy's, now being Dominican and coming to the conclusion that Obama is truly an Afro-American [Kenya roots] more so more then 95% of Blacks in America today .

Being that Obama is half White does this make me a racist against his White or Black side ?

Please respond.

No, that just says you believe, what you believe. There are three ways off the island entertianment,baseball and sex.How did your people get off? No one is getting a free chance THE DR.

LightBlack,

Belief is powerful and misguided is dangerous.

You believe what you want to believe many times far from the whole truth, fact is many youths today are brought up playing victims as an excuse to reseed not exceed, it's all about personal choices and decisions that have a impact and profound consequences on future generations.

Victims of your own beliefs ?

The million dollars question is...when will reality kick in ?

To assume that there are only 3 ways off the island is only proof there is a lot to be learned here.

Most Dominicans enter the U.S the legal way like millions of immigrants from all nations around the world.

I remember in the 60's there was a call for blacks by Blacks to return to Africa.

My parents and family migrated LEGALLY when Trujillo made life impossible 4 them.

I'm sure your Parents were not slaves so why still carry the chains of slave, injustice, under privileged, victim, woos me I was born a poor Black child mentalit

Slaves of your own minds ? Could that be the real problem with Blacks in America today ?

I'm reminded of the bus boycott [Rosa Parks] a real show of economic power, now it's power has been perverted the whole 1960's equal rights movement that so long have Black activist fought so hard to obtain.

The only economic power I see is degrading to Black Woman in general all for DA MONEY !

THE DREAM TURNED NIGHTMARE.

I wonder what MLK if alive today would say to this ? Blacks got it but refuse to use it many would rather live the Ghetto life style all by choice.

Just so you know I grew up during the 60's in south central L.A so if you like I can give a history lesson of what not to do for your people, just so you know Latino's are no different.

I also have worked with problem youth [Black included] in schools for over 32 years, I should know I was one of them.

I welcome your response.

my family came to the states 29 years ago.
never have any members of my family nor myself have ever been stopped by the police.
we follow the rules and the laws.of this country.
we do it the old fashion way we work for our money.
if need be 7 days a week. we dont spoung off the welfare system or look for handouts.
and i guess the main reason we have no problems with law-enforcement,
we are not looking to get rich over night.what we did and still do will work in any country u would want to go to.
with-out a trade or education any country one goes to u will have a lot of problems trying to find decent jobs or any kind of well paying job's.

Danny00,

Thank you....well said, some people like the idea of playing victim with excuses, it gives them a purpose in life and an excuse to point fingers put blame on others for their own condition....living in a past mind set of no return.

WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO TAKING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ?

For every finger pointed there's 3 pointed right back.

LightBlack forgets Blacks are not the only ones who suffered in the U.S...the them vs. us mentality...only problem is who's them ? OH ! you mean us.

ALL take care.

Danny00 is an exception. Most people who go to the US end up in crime because there are huge areas without jobs, housing or decent education.
So of course the US should pay to rehabilitate them.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/new....ipes-for-kitchen-whites-1.1069285
DR needs more artists, kitchen workers, musicians etc. etc.
DR should insist that they have a qualification certificate before accepting return.

S.

You worked for the schools for 32yrs. that explains why the school is jacked up.

The only slaves I've seen lately are the slaves of the DR on the streets of the tourist cities selling themselves for for beer food and drugs.they are slaves some third world shit.

Risom if a Dominican does not have family in the U S how can they get in?

iyeah go ahead and pay with drugs, food or sex and don't pay with MONEY to see what you get!!

LightBlack,

Where do I start,,,

Under California State Ed. code / law, have you heard of parental laws ? I played father, brother and best friend.

Kids are a carbon copy of their screwed up parents, the apple does not fall from the tree.

In California we call them "strawberry's" or "blackberry's" [first class / rate ho's] trading their ass for crack in every major city and ghetto in the U.S.

One baby gets you a welfare check, food stamps, section 8, county medical, two gets you double and so on. Under Obama kids have become the new cash cow.

The same way others do...they apply and most wait, and many who do have family sign dependency wavers so they don't fall into the welfare class.

All peoples came to America by choice, well I won't say all.

Even the U.S illegals work selling oranges on street corners not pimping, robbing, stealing and street drug selling.

Good thing I left color out.

More to come....

LightBlack,

I helped every color.

Have you ever heard of Robert Woodson from the N.C.N.E in D.C.
In 1991 I went to the national leadership institute in Leesberg Virginia [xerox national training center]. later I did volunteer work in Washington D.C in Lincoln Heights and helped many youth in the D.C area.

I also did lots of work in Window Rock Arizona with Ester Yazi on the reservation. The Yazi roots go back 500 years, her great grandfather was killed in the Indian wars against the U.S Gov. in the mid 1800's.

I also worked with Leon Watkins from the family help-line and P.O.W Parents of Watts with Sweet Alice.

I also worked with the late Jack Kemp and William Bennet of EMPOWER AMERICA.

I can go on but for what....I have nothing to prove to you or anybody else other then the hundreds of youth I helped.

AND I DID IT ALL FOR FREE and asked for nothing in return, as you can see I did more then my share, how about you...or play color victim.

LightBlack,

I'll be more then happy to give you a history lesson of L.A and what not to do, just ask.

Wow you want a cookie? You really changed the world.On a more serious note I disagree with you quite a bit but it is ok to disagree.Thanks for helping whoever you helped.I have done more than my share but I don't care to boast or tell the world about it. I just let the work I'VE done speak for me.As far as L A is concerned you have the left coast and N Y.

LightBlack,

You mentioned 32 years as if to say no wonder the schools so messed up, again it goes back to parents or lack of parents and parenting.

One could be part of the problem or the solution. Bragging....heck no ! If bragging is what I was after I'll write a book. When I was involved helping youth I refused to get into the politics, we call them "street pimps" organizations I can name a lot of them in L.A. .

I'm from the old school "put up or shut up". Helping others goes way beyond SELF, SELF SERVING, ME, MINE and I.

There was a whole lot names and organizations I did not post and will not post, what I did post I'm proud I served.

Do your Black people a real favor and quite putting into their minds it's some ones else's fault for the current condition there in.

I could judge you with "I've done my share" but I won't, but still I'm left wondering could that "Share" be again part of the problem or more of the same finger pointing with no solutions.

the demented ABC offers this hallucination

Danny00 is an exception. Most people who go to the US end up in crime because there are huge areas without jobs, housing or decent education.
So of course the US should pay to rehabilitate them.

put the bong down, ABC.

Dread hasn't seen the light......
S.

you mean the one you use to light the bong?

Abc200,

The U.S is a land of opportunity found nowhere else in the world, there is no limit of what one can do though hard work and dedication.

The U.S has many many success story's. Just think with a name like Barrack Hussein Obama after 911 and 10 years ago nobody knew or heard of him only to become our elected Prez.

Yes the history of the U.S does have a violent history and so do other nations, but with a Constitution like the U.S everybody has a chance at the American dream.

After all life is what you make out of it. Today the American youth look to the easy route of quick cash even at the expense of others and themselves, also American youth glorify and idolize DA THUG LIFE and anti-social behavior, most parents waste more on expensive clothes like "looks are everything" ?

I'll stick to my words "responsible [2] parents raise responsible children who in turn become responsible respectable parents themselves".

I agree responsible parents have kids that are more stable 2 parents is better, but I have seen some one parent household do a great job."looks are everthing" is this why dominican women live in the mirror as if their image were a god?

I agree responsible parents have kids that are more stable 2 parents is better, but I have seen some one parent household do a great job."looks are everthing" is this why dominican women live in the mirror as if their image were a god?I'AM not that guy to blame someone else many of my people are behind be cause of where we start, but one thing you are right about we are the only one that can do something about it .

riosm, "Cubans in Cuba don't get taxed because they have no jobs, income, future and have nothing and will never get nothing either. " ...with american taxpayers supporting us Cubans why do we need jobs. Thanks for the free handout fool. You just bought me a strip steak and lobster and you are so stupid you enjoy it. Keep the dollars flowing with your beautiful government handouts. We love slaves like you. Did you pay your taxes yet this year to support the new cubans arriving into the south florida shores almost daily? We take your 10000 of fiat money issuedd to us and buy real money, GOLD, as soon as we are processed and fed hot meals at the Krome detention facility in West Miami.

"The U.S is a land of opportunity found nowhere else in the world, there is no limit of what one can do though hard work and dedication. "

Not what I saw - land of destitution, crime, cheating, greed,

Yes, countries like Mexico have been impaled by the US forcing their populations to seek exodus to the US. Many just end up in the hugely profitable prison system working for absolutely nothing in todays reincarnation of the chain gang.
Others have no choice but to sell drugs or engage in suspect business practices such as pushing worthless mortgages.
The good people in the US mostly live in shacks or their own self contained communities.
The US has most of the responsibility for the global drug problem because its morally bankrupt citizens sitting on huge resources provide a huge and tempting market promoted and publicized by the kings of Hollywood.

S.

Dr. Dread,

""the demented ABC offers this hallucination

Danny00 is an exception. Most people who go to the US end up in crime because there are huge areas without jobs, housing or decent education.
So of course the US should pay to rehabilitate them.

put the bong down, ABC.""

Precious, absolutely precious!!

MJEV.

VivaCuba,

Looks like I'm out gunned....again !

What is the total numbers of Cuban boat people that entered so far this year in the U.S or in the last couple years ?

By the way your in the Dr not the U.S remember.

Those handouts are the work of Obama and the "spread the wealth" that is until 2012.

The gold part only in America, never Cuba, why ?

Being you never been to the U.S you sure know a lot don't you.

You'll never [so far] enjoy your strip steak or lobster tail living in the DR now will you.

LightBlack,

You've seen one "parent household" do a great job.....so much for the Black victim syndrome mentality huh ! Proof one who is hard working and dedicated make it in America.

Woman in general have the "looks are everything" mirror syndrome....in America today many have the "show off more one gets one more".

More like...why not do something instead of pointing fingers, only in America.

The "start'" part sounds like a race that never started therefore never ended.

The single parent thing....you left out [in most cases] the Grandparents.

@Mucho Loco,

""Not what I saw - land of destitution, crime, cheating, greed, ""

Man, you've got to get away from the bong long enough to breathe, clear up your mind just a bit. You probably landed in Tijuana trying to sneak into San Diego and, after hitting bong constantly, probably thought you were in USA. No wonder you are so confused about this country. I guess being caught, after sneaking in high, and subsequently deported didn't help and that's why you hate this country so much.

For your next adventure, I would recommend Cuba or China, or even Singapore. Please be sure to chew lots of gum, from minute plane lands, in latter. Also, please bring your bong with you and declare it at airport.

MJEV.

Abc 200,

Mexico's problem starts and ends with the Mexican Gov.

Mexico' also has there share of illegal immigrants from Central and South America only they use Mexico via the U.S.

"No choice but to sell drugs" you mean freedom of choice, more like there in for the quick buck.

"the U.S mostly like in shacks" oh really....now that's funny.

"Kings of Hollywood" you sound like a Hollywood fan.

Glomarexplorer,

What can one expect when your from the United Wild Kingdom.

hello, there is something everyone needs to know about the US. somebody said it in one of these posts, "You get out what you put in"!

My two grandfathers were Irish immigrants to the US over 4 decades ago. they went there with nothing. One an orphan and the other a from a destitute farming family. They both worked hard all their lives. They sacrificed their lives for the future. The future was my parents, uncles, aunts and now me and my cousins. My one grandfather said get an education it is the one thing nobody can take from you. He was a slave to GM, but his work enabled me to become the first "professional" (a lawyer) in the family. Their sacrifice. Yeah, you know what, they could have went the easier route, organized crime. Hell, you don't think there were Irish mobsters. Study your history. What the hell were the Kennedys? Bootleggers. They were some of the US's first mobsters and the US's answer to royalty. Spare me. Old man Kennedy was nothing more than a drug dealer.

(con't) You get out what you put in. You want it easy there is a cost. Ask the Kennedys. They have paid a hefty price for the what they have or had. Was it worth it? I do not think so. So no more excuses. People say if people do not use the drugs then there would be no more drug dealers. Poppycock! Legalize it and tax it. Cut out the middleman. It worked to a degree with alcohol. I am sick of all this BS.The deportees chose there lives. Now they need to live with the consequences just like the Kennedys! Nothing in life comes without a cost.

My father has always said, "Work hard, keep your nose clean and good things will happen to you." I live by those words! What principals do these people (deportees) live by???

Benwaballs,

Thank you very well said. It's all about freedom of choices......it's some one else's fault the old "abuse excuse" sounds more like the "self abuse excuse" too me.

One thing I forgot to say is that I actually represent these puds in their bids to try and re-enter the US or any other country they have been banished from. I have heard it all. These are the same people that when you quote the price for the service say, "wow, that is a lot. can't you do it more "economically" ?"

yeah, sure, you (those who don't play by the rules or do not take into account the consequences of their choices) have a huge problem and you think that the cost to fix it is going to be negotiable. My God, at least the Kennedys understood (for the most part) that price for playing the game by their rules is not cheap! That goes for every other person that finds themselves in similar circumstances and comes back to this planet and the realization that the solution is costly.

I want one thing to be clear, I am not perfect but I live with the consequences of my past decisions everyday, however unpleasant they may be.

risom, I will enjoy a *FREE* strip steak and lobster when I arrive into the USA on your tax dime. USA Government loves us and gives us all of your tax money. No. It is not the result of Obama. These policies date back to well over ten years ago with your governments wet foot dry foot policy that has and never will work in the best interest of you the american taxpaying idiot.

VivaCuba,

With heighten security of U.S borders and coast lines....looks like your feet will stay wet.....GOOD LUCK.

Why don't you draw a picture I'm sure with a little spices and imagination it would taste like the real thing back home in Cuba.

"policies" sure their many decades old....but soon 'out with the old in with the new' ?

I was referring to the new social spending mentality Obama has brought on the U.S tax payers.

I'm sure your home sick...sick and tired of the Cuban system but afraid to admit it ?

Yet your still in the DR enjoying, let me see.....FREEDOM !

For I forget that free thing....more like borrowed from China and soon to be cut so don't waste time act before it's to late.

I will say...for someone who hates the U.S system your in the DR enjoying a life style just like the U.S system.

the DR flag...DIOS, PATRIA, LIBERTAD. Funny that "L" word does it ring a bell ?

Also that DR life style not found on the "Prison Island of Cuba".

Riosn, "heighten security of us borders" ? ...You have NO security of your US borders thanks to your former and current government criminal leaders.

VivaCuba,
The U.S has border protection to keep people OUT not IN or you yourself would be in the U.S minus the boat with dry feet.

No need for border protection in Cuba....no would live there on the Prison Island of Cuba voluntarily.

While the Cuban people struggle and suffer from shortages of food and basic necessities with no future....meanwhile Fidel and the socialist gang are living the Cuban high life [little extra only] in their Prez. palace.

Imagine......what if your Uncle Fidel spent as much on the Cuban people as he does on HIS military you'll still be in Cuba yourself with a little extra.

In Cuba your uncle arms and preps for an invasion that will never come.....the U.S won !

But wait.....Fidel won....the Cuban people lost, again !

@riosm

correctly and eloquently put! Cuba, one of the last poster children for failed Communism. Let's not forget cousin Chavez. He can blow everything out his "red" eye!

Our self-righteous Yankee counterparts pompously pontificate and point fingers at the planet, but they usually fail to look at themselves in the mirror. The U.S. created its own decadent culture of ultra-materialism, rampant consumerism, the "me generation", instant pleasure living, and getting high on drugs. It then saturated the planet with its sick film industry, and its syndicated TV shows which further contaminate the planet with their decadent culture. Then the U.S. will never admit to its historical mistake of intervening in D.R. in 1965, and being mostly responsible for everything that ensued after that. Has anybody figured out yet why Uncle Sam's permanently failed project of Anglo-Saxon social darwinism in the Carribean, namely the imperial satrapy of Macondo (P.R.), is a basket case, how on God's earth will the same work in D.R.? Uncle Sam never seems to learn the lessons of history.

Excellent post AF!
S.

ArielFornari,

My misguided friend...you say "point fingers at the planet" ? Please explain !

You mean the liberal, radical, druggies of the 1960's [hippies are modern day yuppies] one should not blanket coat all in America that's foolish.

"Sick film industry" do what I do....don't watch it, buy it and sure as heck you warn your children of it, focus on our country's own sexual exploitation, disrespect of our woman, sex toy / pleasure only mentality, fatherless children and a host of other problems.

If you feel the "1965" was a mistake I have a suggestion....make the Cuban move and get a taste of that life style I'm sure you'll change your mind.

PSST.....Avoid the tourist sections in the DR so you don't get sexually corrupted.

Abc200,

Don't forget to bow to your new prince.

As I remember the U.S American revolution broke ties with the early day United Wild Kingdom and in over 200 years became the most powerful nation on earth....soon to regain that status in 2012.

riosm-In which planet are you living?Let's start from the bottom up."The most powerful nation on earth" is right now bankrupt with a megazillion deficit, thanks mostly to the drunken stupor of its imperialist wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and now its "humanitarian bombing" of the Libyan people. 2012? Maybe I've been getting the wrong downloads from authoritative articles recently, but by 2016 the People's Republic of China will have surpassed decadent U.S.A. as the world's unquestioned no. 1 economic power. Cuba? That's the biggest laugh of them all! Try learning some Spanish (unless you are a native Spanish speaker already), tune Cubavision Internacional (which you'll probably harp it's a propaganda machine, as though CNN weren't), and you'll stay on the ball how the Revolution is updating its economic model, bringing it in tune with 21st Century Socialism which is definitely the way go now. In short, self-righteousness and megalomania is not going to save the U.S. from its downfall.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/....-to-end-2011-04-25?dist=countdown The IMF bombshell, China surpasses the U.S. in 2016 as the world's no. 1 economic powerhouse. Those of you under self-induced hypnosis like our fine friend riosm, it might be a good idea to burn the midnight oil a bit more often, and dig out the truth that comes out by leaps and bounds daily over Al Gore's "Information Superhighway" Version 2.0 :-)

riosm-The above linke is an article that declares the IMF's bombshell that by 2016, Uncle Sugar will finally be trit-trottin' behind the Chinese, as the new number two economic power on the planet-My dear ole' friend I have a soft spot for some of you folks that post inane arguments on this most august forum online. Your case, bless your heart, seems the typical six o'clock news intellectual, who swallows whatever propaganda is churned out by the media oligopolies. Since I would really like you to be able to come to grips with the real world, I will make it a point of grabbing here and there some links from time to time, that could at least help you to come off your high horse of propaganda, and live in the real world that the rest of us are trying to live. Take good care of yourself my friend. ;-)

riosm-leyendote en ingles, creo que puedo auscultar en mi bolita de cristal que eres uno de esos dominicanos que tiene las neuronas bombardeadas por el bombardeo mediatico de las matrices y los oligopolios imperialistas. Veo que odias a Cuba y Venezuela, nuestros dos mejores ejemplos de dignidad e independencia en Nuestra America. Te la pasas vociferando que si E.U. es el paraiso, y el resto de nuestros paises no valen nada. Lo peor de este mundo es ser un "colonizado mental", como tu que le vendio su alma al diablo hace rato y ni siquiera se dio cuenta. Para tu informacion mi amiguito, ve preparandote para el 5 de junio, que el Peru es proximo en fila para refundarse como nacion. Los yanquis habran invadido groseramente la Patria de Duarte en el 1965 creyendose que iban a solucionarse todos los problemas, pero la historia continua pasando factura. "La historia del Caribe esta entrelazada y es coherente", tesis del Prof. Juan Bosch, de su libro "Frontera Imperial"....... :-)

China will have all the requisites to conquer and rule the world for a thousand years: desire; economic resources; manpower; military resources.

It is inevitable that their turn will come and that they will exercise what they see as their legitimate right, and no one will be able to stop them.

There shall be no distinction between East and West or neo-communists or socialists or capitalists, they shall all fall to the dragon. I am sure this fact brings measure of happiness to some individuals here.

MJEV.

glomarexplorer-with that handle, I wonder if you've had any connections with the "compania"? (And I don't mean "La Compania de Jesus-Los Jesuitas" ) :-)

ArielFornari,

Thanks to Obama with his failed socialist mentality.

Also one would think with all the violence south of the U.S border which is now at 35,000 killed [many innocent bystanders included] in the last 4 years and counting Obama would tighten the border.

Never underestimate the U.S just wait until the 2012 elections.

I'm Dominican born raised in the U.S. I don't hate the Cubans / Venezuelan I never meet a Cuban or Venezuelan in the U.S or DR I did not get along with it's only their Gov. system / control over their people. I don't believe any Gov. should control anybody.

Man was born free not to be controlled by Man, also we must not harp on the past, focus only on the present and future.

There's devils in every nation it's embedded in mans nature. If Cuba and Venezuela would focus on their own national problems I'm sure their people would benefit greatly, but then again it gives them purpose and the fuel needed to justify there own actions.

@Ariel,

Classified; no comment.

Yes, Jesuit schooling: Colegio San Ignacio de Loyola.

MJEV.

Ariel, do not waste your precious time and effort discussing issues with someone like riosm. the old bromide counsels against arguing with an idiot, because, at a distance, nobody can tell thye difference. anyone who can blame Obama´s ¨socialist ¨policies for the morass in the USA is not worthy of response. heck, the highest tax rates in the governments of Eisenhower, Reagan, and Nixon, were higher than under Obama. some guys just cannot accept the fact that certain people hold certain offices. heck, it was not Obama who outsourced all the jobs to China , Mexico, India, and just about anywhere you can think of. and, if you want to blame a democrat for the current malaise, blame Clinton, who got into bed with the financial hoodlums, and turned a blind eye to deregulation of the financial casinos. now the crap has hit the fan, and Obama has inherited the mess. sorry, Riosm....Obama did not cause this stink. try George Bush, for starters.

Just accept folks: US is most corrupt nation one earth; mean and selfish too.
It all stinks.
S.

or, riosm, you might want to go a little farther back , and look at Mr Self Made Man, Ronald Reagan. yes, the guy who promoted Ayn Rand think, which suggested that individualism and selfishness are the highest human virtues. the guy who built an economy on the discredited nonsense of supply side economics, and trickle down theories. yes, the thinking that suggest that the best way to give birds more food is to give horses more hay. and, how can we forget Georgie Bush, who, in response to the September 11 bombings, suggested that americans flock to the malls and spend to the balls. yes...no call for sacrifice, nor introspection. just some individualistic, narcissistic band aid solution. know why China has so much money? because good old republicans want to make their products as cheaply as they can, in places where sweat shops are the order of the day. the US congress cannot do dick, because Sam Walton and his gang will not permit it.

Ronald Reagan-Now you're up my alley mate. When I spent 6 months in San Francisco in 1993, I came across bunches and bunches of homeless, especially in the downtown area. Many of these several thousand homeless were African-Americans, and within that group, I noticed a considerable percentage of the mentally-ill. It so happened that I mentioned this fact to a local social worker who knew the scene very well, going back to Reagan's incumbency as Governor. This social worker narrated the human drama of these African-American mentally-ill homeless, which by the way were kicked out of the city bus terminal, made famous by a Ted Danson flick with Macaulin Caulkin. These homeless were coldly kicked out of the bus terminal as their place to spend the night, due to the terminal director's words that "we're not in the homeless business". How did these mentally-ill become homeless? Thanks to the de-institutionalization of the mentally=-ill from state facilities during Reagan's governorship.

dreadlocks-I realized from the beginning that reasoning with riosm was like talking to a brick wall. But if there's something that upsets my apple cart are mentally-colonized, boot-licking Latinos that are such cultural Uncle Toms, that they think just because they got to the States the other day, and made a few bucks and hoarded a few things, that they finally discovered the existential apotheosis of life. It might surprise some folks despite my irreverent view of Imperial America, deep inside I hold no ill will to the real nation which is the people, not the imperialist-planetary government. Had I not paid my dues serving in the Armed Forces, and putting myself on the line more than once, I probably wouldn't appreciate the right to express my conscience as I do now. However I have gone full circle and not long ago I decided, I wasn't going to go along anymore with neoliberal globalization, as religiously espoused by Imperial U.S.A. I'm closing ranks with my Latin nations now.

benwaballs: "one of the last poster children for failed Communism". Or perhaps one of the first to recognize the FIRST new communist nation,...America. ...I am not the last , but rather one of the first. Look forward, not backward.

Ariel Fornari, Riosm will losing everything in attempt to defend the ruling cartel that calls itself a government superpower. Ignorance is bliss. America "WAS" a great place. With time dynamics change and nations are no different. Study history if nobody believes. I hate history by the way but it is time to study it to protect oneself

VivaCuba-Yo los dejo que se echen la soga. En cuanto al amigo que dice lo del "last poster children of failed communism". Primeramente ya ni siquiera hay que leer "Das Kapital" o El Materialismo Historico y Dialectico o El Socialismo Cientifico, para darse cuenta que los dias del neoliberalismo a ultranza estan contados. De no ser asi, el 100% de los paises de Nuestra America serian todavia oligarquias semi-feudales, dirigidas por lacayos del imperialismo, con economias de consumo putrefacto. Lo que la mayoria de nuestros contrapartes anglo-americanos con su cronico analfabetismo funcional de la memoria historica jamas podran concebir es, que la historia tiende a pasar factura. Ellos todavia se creen que la Revolucion Cubana surgio de la nada, y fue producto de una conspiracion internacional comunista. Casi lo mismo esta sucediendo con la satanizacion de los paises del ALBA, etc. Y ahora falta Peru por unirse a los paises progresistas. No hay peor ciego que el que no quiera ver.

Ariel, i have nothing but admiration for your viewpoints. sadly, there are those amongst us, who are still living in the 1950s, who fail to understand that although the USA has some good points, it has done untold damage to the ASPIRATIONS of people the world over, in its insatiable quest to aggrandise itself at the expense of others. besides, as a man of color, i find it extremely easy to understand that a great portion of the antipathy directed towards Obama is nothing more than the last gasp of the angry white man

Dreadlocks,

I'm not white. Here we go again........color has nothing to do with this it's his foreign and domestic policy's that's in question here. I ask what has been done in the last 2 1/2 years that has benefited America ?

Now he's courting the Latino support ='s votes for his re-election bid in 2012.

What ever happened to the Prez. oath of office / U.S Constitution ?

The U.S is not perfect....not by a long shot yet the U.S it is still a model for other nations.

As far as the 50's some live in the past, I only use history as a model of what not to do. Man is destine to repeat it.

It's in man nature...more is never enough. I myself try to live the 'with in my means' and don't harp on what I don't have, but the freedom to know the difference.

"Brick wall" all suffer from this, some more then others. Personal beliefs and ideology run deep....nothing replaces personal first hand experience, believe it or not even I have respect for that !

i did not specify you as being white. however, your antipathy towards Obama sounds like that from the angry white men, who endorse the birther controversy regarding where Obama was born. nobody challenges the origins of any white president. if Obama was a white guy called John Smith, that issue would have never have arisen. similarly, to refer to him as a ¨socialist ¨is irrational, and emotionally derived. his willingness to stick with the unaffordable tax cuts proves otherwise. the fact that he tries to legislate for affordable health care for all people is morally right, not based in some Marxist philosophy. nowhere is it written that only certain people should be allowed access to medical treatment. we are not talking about the ownership rights to Maseratis here. those of us who defend the health care bill are simply saying that Donald Brown from the ghetto should have just as much right to a medical procedure as Donald Trump. you may not like it, but that is how i see it.

The above link-The Ethiopian planetary emperor as I irreverently call him (Obama), is a moderate Republican of the 1990s. If memory serves me right, I believe maybe four emperors of the late Roman Empire came in fact from the (North) African provinces, so saying that Obama is an Ethiopian emperor might not be that much off the mark. If you ask my opinion about Obama, not living Stateside when he was elected,but watching his career, what little I learned led me to think that he was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread for the U.S.A. Time has revealed that he's just another opportunist, who instead of being President, is what most men are in that position as of lately. In his case he is a 2.0 version of a caretaker President who takes care of the NWO-Planetary Government's agenda in all Continents. In Latin America his prestige is already rock-bottom, except for lackeys of imperialism like Pinera of Chile, an industrialist himself. In short Obama has let down everybody.

Obama has actually tightened the genocidal embargo on Cuba, spat on the sacred altar of the historic memory of nations, when he brushed aside the question of U.S. historical responsibility on the 1973 coup against Allende in Chile. When traveling to Latin America, he came really empty-handed, and didn't accomplish hardly anything, for the already out of sync U.S. foreign policy in the region. In the Middle East, Obama is seen as an imperial hypocrite who backs the bloody Al Khalifa hereditary dynasty in Bahrain which brutalizes the population, and tows an opportunist line with Egypt, whereupon the youth movement there recently told him off by shunning Hillary Clinton's visit. He has given new wind to the NWO and European neocolonialism-imperialism by the "humanitary" and genocidal bombing of Libya, while keeping mum about Israel's genocidal bombing of Gaza. He harps about Syria's effort to ascertain national sovereignty against subversives, yet is buddy to bloody Saudi Arabia.

Obama's opportunist, cosmetic and hypocritical foreign policies from Latin America to Afghanistan, have been long discerned as a last ditch effort for Imperial America, to maintain a bloody grip on the planet at whatever cost, continuing the genocidal bombings in Pakistan/Afghanistan and now the Predators are having a heyday with the civilian populations in Libya, thanks to the Ethiopian Emperor. As the Empire loses its grip on the planet, it will continue to try to reign in the remnants of its military-colonial enclaves like Iraq & Afghanistan and other client states. I'm afraid the Middle East, when it finally gets to its climactic fusion point, could very well be the region that hammers the nails in the coffin of U.S. planetary imperialism. If not, we in Latin America are happily and enthusiastically in cue, so when the time comes we can give the apocalyptic boot in the posterior to the U.S./Canada imperial tandem, and rid ourselves of those vampires which have sucked our blood.

Who do all you people believe obama works for?

Ariel,"De no ser asi, el 100% de los paises de Nuestra America serian todavia oligarquias semi-feudales, dirigidas por lacayos del imperialismo, con economias de consumo putrefacto." Exactamente 100% correcto. Ahora la pregunta grande que queda es QUIEN es reposible para esto. ¿Todos los presidentes de Gringos son títeres de QUIEN? Quién hace trabajan para producir este sufrimiento de todas las Américas y el esfuerzo ahora gran para el feudalismo el EEUU entero?

VivaCuba-No hay peor ciego que el que no quiera ver-De hecho, yo mismo hace relativamente poco tiempo que me he venido dando cuenta que E.U. ya ha entrado en un periodo permanente de decadencia. Como ya se sabe, los imperios se tornan mas peligrosos cuando entran en decadencia, y el espiral descendiente en que E.U. ya entro es imparable, hasta un tonto se da cuenta de esto, y quienes veo mas se estan dando cuenta son ciudadanos nativos estadounidenses que viven en pleno imperio, pues ellos mejor que nadie pueden ejercer criterios claros. Solo las elites planetarias que se lucran de las crisis globales, son las que siguen enriqueciendose a costa del dolor colectivo del planeta. En America Latina no obstante tenemos la mistica de la memoria historica, que retumba con voz clara del pasado y nos alerta a no seguir cometiendo los mismos errores, e ir preparandonos de una vez y por todas a romper con ese yugo imperial que tiene a nuestros pueblos esclavizados. Soy optimista, seremos libres.

Dreadlocks,
Obama had a chance to show his birth certificate years ago yet choose not to, Why ?
He knew that if he can spin it it would draw attention of his failed policy's.....and it worked !
Just think what got him in office 43% white, 67% Latino and 94% of blacks voted for him.
NOBODY in America goes with out health.....under Fed. Law no one is turned alway, it's called County health care and we have it in every major city, most are emergences crime cases that such up the funds.
OBAMACARE is like County health care for everybody. 2700 + page bill on Obamacare ? The famous words "Just sign it, we'll read what's in it "reform YES ! overhaul NO !
I believe in the flat tax system where every body pays there fair share.
Most likely Donald Brown will end up a crime victim of another D. Brown, those are facts.
In the old days if you were to ask the question why join the medical field ? The answer was "Because I want to help those in need" now it's "It pays good".

http://michael-hudson.com/ Thisveteran Professor will tell you everything about Neo-Fuedalism

Riosm, This so called birth certificate is a fraud. http://www.infowars.com/digital-a....-obama-birth-certificate-altered/

Ariel, Concuerdo 100.00% . Prepare y estudie la historia. Desafortunadamente para los esclavos norteamericanos que viven dentro del EEUU, ellos son esclavos. Esclavos a esto. Estudio la historia de fracaso económico de Argentina, Rodesia (ahora Zimbabue). Estas naciones fueron un suelo que prueba para lo que nosotros ahora vemos antes nosotros para la absorción global. Corra para el oro, el tiempo es casi sobre para todos. Estos banqueros se pudrirán en el infierno. Alguien los conseguirá.

VivaCuba, Dreadlocks

Funny you should ask that, 10 years ago even after 911 and with a catchy name like Barrack Hussein Obama nobody knew or cared.

All I heard was the first, the first and with the hatred geared towards G. Bush that Hope and Change seemed just that...what kind of HOPE ? What kind of CHANGE ?

Obama was suppose to make things better remember ?

Obama spent spent spent, gave gave gave tax money so easily, they say in the 2012 elections if he wins it will be by the unemployed, low income and the "I want my free share, I deserve it too"

Hope & Change was never spelled out / detailed.

As I remember he was to stop the 2 current wars not start a new one !

Please name just one good thing that has been done in the last 2 1/2 years.

Anybody......GOT TEA or CAFE CON LECHE ?

All take care.

VivaCuba,

Are you a disguised birth-er ? Careful you might be labeled a racist.

riosm, i see no reason why he should have been importuned to show his birth certificate, in the first place. as to Ariel Fornari....i cannot agree with you more. Old Dreadlocks might say things people do not like, but more often than not, he is right. long before Obama was elected, i wrote a posting here, characterising him as an opportunist, and a bum. Blutarsky will attest to that, if his memory still works. he has done nothing positive to justify the hopes held for him. he is no better than the morally bankrupt Bill Clinton, who, in his last act as President could have taken steps to end the embargo against Cuba, but, instead, chose to pardon financial criminals. not surprising, since he jumped into bed with Wall Street, and sold out common america. Obama is no better, being a man of no moral and philosophical epicenter, and a clever fence sitter, treading water without really swimming. he has no problem bombing Libya, but watch what happens if the monarchy in Saudi Arabia

comes under pressure. then, American military might will be sent in, to quell the revolutionaries, and to defend the atrocious Saudi Royal family. after all, we cannot have americans paying 7 dollars per gallon for gasoline, because saudi supplies are controlled by islamists. the heck witth democracy then. let them eat cake. as to riosm...please, get a grip. there is EMERGENCY medical care in the USA. if you crack your head open, falling on the sidewalk, you can go to the emergency room, where you cannot be turned away. let us see you walk into Johns Hopkins without an insurance card, and tell them you have difficulty passing urine. think you will be welcomed to take a brace of free tests?

Dreadlocks,

I agree 1/2 but

His refusal to show his birth cert. years ago is a ploy to move one away from the real issues "show the R/hand in order to hide what the L/hand is really doing".

Walk into John Hopkins with a life threatening [to include illegal aliens] emergency the out come will be different you'll be treated / stabilized then transported to County at tax payer's expense.

Will Obamacare get you in John Hopkins ?

2700 + page health overhaul / control ?

County type health care for everybody !

U.S health care....reform YES ! total restructure NO !

$7 dollars a gal. Obama on day 1 of the golf oil spill refused help, banded off shore drilling [never mind Brazil] forcing the U.S to become more depended on foreign oil.

China gets 32%, Brittan gets 28%, France gets 27% and the U.S gets 1% yet we lead the new oil war, Prez. "Oh'No" sounding like "da" Bush ?

Why am I not surprised 95% of Blacks voted for him, can you say maybe color an issue

95 percent of blacks voted for him, so what does that prove? how many white people in states like Wyoming voted for him? yes, give me percentages. people give me this asinine stuff about black people voting for a black candidate, as if white people do not do the same. a black man has never been president before, and you cannot blame black people for making sure that the historical record is changed. the fact that white people voted for Obama is that they could not vote for McCain, so, they took the line of least resistance. it is not that they all just loved him. McCain just stunk up the joint too badly.

riosm, try to understand some basic sociology here. Obama is a Democrat, and a black man. black people have traditionally voted Democrat. it is a confluence of two things.JC Watts is a black man, who is a republican. he cannot draw flies in the black community. get the picture?

Dreadlocks,

Blacks voted color only in 2008 ?

43% White and 87% Latino voted for him, I'm sure if those voted against "Oh'No" in 2012 the race card is sure be an issue.

What's the % of blacks in Wyoming anyway ?

People did have a third & fourth party to vote for or....not vote at all. Sly, slick "Oh'No" targeted the young voters [M.T.V rock the vote] who don't know all the issues only what the liberal educators teach them like "Oh'No"... ignorance is bliss ? It got him elected.

I used to be Democrat until about 25 years ago....no more after the Carter years that was enough for me !

The Democratic party radical take-over by left wing liberals of the 1960's.

As a great Black leader once said "Man should be judged by character not the color of their skin" funny he never proclaimed his leadership role yet....PEOPLE SAW LEADERSHIP IN HIM.

Dreadlocks, who cares if he is black white or purple you fool. This illegal is working for the cartel to bring down your nation and the world financially. The time is very near. I suppose you also believe Bin Laden was killed yesterday by US forces? The SOB has been dead for over 8 years. You are a fool. The Washington banker mafia cartel decided it was time to close this chapter out of their playbook.

VivaCuba,

Please hold back the hate your beginning to sound like ElBuscoon, again you sound like a birther.

Dead is dead period. "The SOB" you got that right.

Here we have a Prez. with no military background what's so ever who's wife made a negative statement about America before the 2008 elections. All he did was give the order to proceed.

Not to taken as a insult, but......

Always those darn "Washington mafia cartel" "Yankee's" "Gansta" type.....change the station, get a new unscratched record, change your one track mind, step out of the time wrap it's the year 2011.

If any thing so what 1, 8 years dead now......he's dead period let this be a lesson learned don't mess with the U.S.

I hope nobody uses this victory against terrorism as a re-elect promo for "Oh'No" in 2012....talk about the possibility of pimping the dead !

I could see it now the next u-tube conspiracy Bin Laden is a distance relative / half brother of "Oh'No".

Take care.

riosm," Please hold back the hate your beginning to sound like ElBuscoon, again you sound like a birther. Riosm, I am a birther! Why do you have aproblem with that when the evidence has and remains CLEAR? (Osma)... Dead is dead period. He was dead idiot 8 years ago. "The SOB" you got that right.

You either have no intelligent idea on what you are commenting on (by studying history), or you are working for the establishment, or both.

You probably do not even have a gringo passport and have never left your land of freedom. Are you on a respirator?

VivaCuba,

A birther, a Cuban birther I'm shocked .....good a free open mind thinker and your Cuba ? Only in the DR !

Can you prove Bin Laden's been dead for 8 years, if so just post ! Or did you get this bit of info. from your Tio's Cuban one sided gov. ?

"The SOB" part I agree 100%, he got what he deserved, better late then never huh ! Next.

I've been to more places around the world then you'll ever dream about, and I traveled freely too to the DR and back. How about you ?

One does not need a "gringo" passport to travel....unless your from Cuba then your limited, and still you live in my beloved DR not Cuba, why ?

History you only believe it when it benefit's your one sided mentality form your one only Cuban Gov. media that supports your "Yankee gansta" U.S Gov.

Did time stop in Cuba ?

Just so you know when I post I cut through the bull, cut through the chase and get to the point, notice I even got you responding, exposed ! You do that yoursel

vivacuba, did you forget your medications today? you sound like some 1960s student activist, replete with conspiracy theories, and all. trust me on this one, cuba. i have been around longer than you have. whatever you think you know, i have heard it all before. your notion that Bin Laden has been dead for over 8 years cannot be substantiated by factual evidence. if it can, please present it. in the absence of proof to that effect, your meanderings are nothing but the product of a damaged mind. try to be a little less doctrinaire in your presentation, because you are not really a heavyweight thinker. now try to comport yourself in a more civil fashion, befitting the requirements of an academic setting. if that proves to be too daunting a task, we would welcome your return to nintendo and playstation, leaving this ecosystem to the adults.

Dreadlocks,

I could of not said it better myself with my limited American education.

Remember.....VivaCuba can't help himself he relies on what he only knows or what is allowed to know....this happens when a one Cuban sided controlled media spoon feeds one.

The Cubans are really bright people they can make a 1950's vintage AMERICAN MADE car still run without replaceable parts. Cuba a "Prison Island" frozen in time...the 1950's with the same political mentality.

VivaCuba....enjoying the best the DR has to offer, is it any wonder why he won't be headed back to Cuba soon ?

Notice: VivaCuba hates Bin Laden, questions "Oh'No's" birth, not thrilled that Bin Laden attacked the WTC the symbol of American world wide economic might why I'm willing to bet he struggles daily in his mind and questions his Uncle's failed ideology, more like seeing the light / common sense.

I will admit the U.S is not perfect but then what nation is...Cuba ?

thanks, riosm. vivacuba is just some deluded malcontent who believes he invented dissent and activism. he believes that he knows something about imperialism and oppression that is a deep, dark secret to the rest of us. well, some of us were around in the sixties, actually fighting for civil rights, and running from the forces of intimidation. now this Starbucks revolutionary comes on the site with his adolescent firebrand style, insulting those whom he thinks know less than he does. where was he when i was sitting in on lectures in the late 60s from true Caribbean revolutionaries like Walter Rodney, Dr Trevor Munroe, and others like them? mind your manners, vivacuba...adults are present

Dreadlocks,
Once again you have my respect showing the true HUMAN spirit by overcoming past obstacles, I myself suffered racism first hand in south L.A during the 60's being Dominican not quit fitting in with the folks in my neighborhood. Some just dwell on the past it gives them purpose in life.

I'm a strong believer all Humans have the same want's and needs, it's how one goes about obtaining it then what one does with it that counts.

I thank the almighty daily for having the opportunity to have lived and been raised in the U.S with all she has to offer.

I think sometimes ElBuscoon and VivaCuba are the same person, if I'm proven wrong GOOD minus the personal attacks I have no problem with that at least it will serve to open my sometimes closed mind....hopefully to the benefit of those who post and read on DT.

As the old saying goes "don't waste your time trying to expose someone, give it time they'll expose themselves".

Take care my friend.

Where is the body? Thrown out to sea? You people must be americans to believe this tall story.

VivaCuba,

Shark / sea / crab food, under the sea, maybe he'll hook-up with one virgin mermaid ?

While the current administration is debating / deciding whether to make public his death photos public because they don't want to offend Muslims.....I say the heck with that.

I wonder how much debate / discussion was used when the cold blooded terrorist decided to decapitate live Americans on live T.V for the world to see.

If it were my decision I'll........

What a joke ! Your using your DR gained free will / thinking [yes the rewards of free self thinking] ...proof your crackin without the crack, watch out your control freak Tio Fidel may see you as a worthless propaganda Cuban risk then pull your Cuban passport and order you back to Cuba.....for life, that would be a shame.....or will it ?

Quick time to defect before it's to late ! You can use political asylum we'll understand, you better hurry before it's to late !

I wish you luck.

ha ha you are so funny

riosm, the respect is mutual. you see, some of us talk the talk, while others have walked the walk. some things stick in my mind, and will follow me to the grave. i remember how my late mother broke down into inconsolable tears when she was disallowed entry to a movie house in Miami, because we are black. it was not that she wanted to see the movie that badly, but that the disrespect shown to her, in front of her child, was just too much to bear. so, when some guy who sits in coffee houses reading Franz Fanon gives me a lecture on ANY human injustice, he better couch it in respectful terms, because i am almost always correct in saying that i have seen things he only reads about while drinking his 6 dollar mocha latte.

Dreadlocks,

I also remember my father taking my family to the movies Saturday afternoons 25 miles north to the San Fernando Valley you see new released movies, we had 2 movie theaters on Slauson & Vermont Ave. showing 10+ old movies. I also remember my Mother being ignored and shunned away at the snack bar.

Also I remember my Mother in the early 60's saying she could not understand why Whites and Blacks did not get along in America, my Mother would always say....In the DR color was never an issue people are people.

Still I harbor no ill feelings towards anybody.

I remember when I was overseas in Pam Mun Jom, Korea those north communist Koreans would point their AK's & SKS at us, funny they were not picky what color we were only what we represented...... the American U.S Army.

Take care my friend.

P.S. Never mind VivaCuba he's only exercising his DR gained freedom to laugh without fear of being persecuted.

be well, my friend. to me , people like vivacuba are comic relief.