Santo Domingo.- Undocumented people who arrived in the country after the new Constitution took effect will be expelled from the national territory, as stipulated in the Interior and Police Ministry’s proposed bill for the General Migration Law’s Application Regulation.
The proposed legislation also states that all foreigners with properly verified permanence during 10 years or more in the country, have the right to opt for permanent residence and will be issued a valid identity card for 4 years.
The bill was sent to the agencies grouped in the National Migration Council, to state their opinions, through a recent missive from the Interior and Police minister Jose Ramon Fadul.
Foreigners’ registry
The proposal, of which media outlet Listin obtained a copy, stresses the consolidation of the National Stabilization and Registry Plan for all Foreigners in the Country, as Central Electoral Board president Roberto Rosario explained to the OAS in Washington DC last week.
From: United States, New York City
A fair compromise. I hope it's implemented to the letter.
From: United States
The problem is the mentality of the officials.
anything can be purchased in the DR including residency so what is the big deal here.
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Its not fair for the people of DR, when the majority of the jobs that don't require education is held by the foreigners in questioned. I say "SEND THEM ALL BACK" and re-enter legally with the proper documents.
Give the Dominican people a chance,...... for crying out loud!!!!!
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
The problem is how do you tell apart those that came before and those that came after the promulgation of the Constitution?
As for the 10 year ones, how will they verify?
Noble ideas, but very complicated to enforce, because the gist of the problem is just that: "undocumented".
From: United States
Harrison has a point; they need to make a counterfeit proof id. Leave it to Dominican/Haitian ingenuity to come up with a fake or bribed Id. This however must be done and I would hope that this id process also includes fingerprinting all undocumented foreigners.
Written by: Atabey, 5 Apr 2011 1:03 PM
From: United States, NYC
From: United States, Brooklyn
Without number this is meaningless
Leave the haitians, that came to the DR in the 19th century, alone. Deport the rest!
Written by: Mart1n, 5 Apr 2011 2:35 PM
From: Dominican Republic, North coast
Undocumented Haitians broke the law to get here so why should they be law abiding if they are given residency. What about the people that done it legally and payed lawyers do they get reimbursed? HA HA
Written by: Helen, 5 Apr 2011 3:43 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Nagua
I came here legally, I'd like to continue living here legally - I'd like know how to renew my residency and cedula - are there any 'reliable' sources of information other than the 'Guzman' et al route? I gather from the above article, they're going to kick me out of my chosen country, a country which I have no wish to leave! I love this place despite the hardships etc that it's thrown at me (nothing like the hardships that nearly 50% of Dominicans have to endure) - I too have gone through many periods of not being able to eat for up to 4 days at a time, thank goodness for water; and still I'm here and wish to stay here. They say I'm mad - maybe they're right.. I've been here 6+ years, I'd like to continue living here, become a Dominican Citizen, eventually have enough knowledge to vote etc., for me though, the political scene is just too incomprehensible - if I pay, I get???? Don't be silly, life is priceless it's not worth wasting on corrupt bodies... Seems I'm out of my 1K.....
From: United States
troy310879:
this is an inmigration issue, not a salary issue but let me say,
if you have the skills and education you can make money here... We are one of the strongest caribbean economies in terms of GDP. We also hold the record for economic growth in the caribbean during the past decade.... the private sector also holds the record for growth ..
Written by: danny00, 5 Apr 2011 4:28 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
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We also hold the record for economic growth in the caribbean during the past decade.... the private sector also holds the record for growth .
WHAT U LEFT OUT
its also a place where 1,000 flee and 1,000 more would if they had the chance.
so many problems in this country, a plac e where it seems nothing is for real.where people need to live behind bars in their homes, scared to go out at night, fear of the police who bring their own crime wave to the people of the dominican republic, where those in control in the government treat and keep their own as "SLAV'E'S", where millions of dominicans spend 1/2 their lives in the dark, no luz., where millions carry fire arms., where their is no EDUCATION FOR ITS PEOPLE.
the list can go on. but lets be fair about this and not only talk about the good with it comes a lot of ulgy's....more uglys then good's..
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Written by: abc200, 5 Apr 2011 6:00 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
I think it is quite easy for legitimate people to regularize their position. Legitimate businesses advertise residency in papers such as 'LT-7'. There are few problems in living in the DR so it is attractive to a wide variety of people.
Certainly people who are well established in the country should be regularized so they can pay property tax etc.
S.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
abc200 you are not correct in assuming it is easy to regularise their situation ,,in fact it is one of the most frustrating things to do ,,,and to renew is equally frustrating ,,,that is why there are so many people who do not go ahead with a residence card or renew it .I am not talking about Haitians but people from USA, Canada, and the various european countries
helen ..I do not know where you are from but I assume you are not from Haiti so I very much doubt if they will target you ,,,if you want more information about renewal there are numerous accounts given in the other english on line news service . You will probably have to go to the capital .
Written by: Escott, 5 Apr 2011 6:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
Typical crap. Reward illegals while people who went through the proper channels just get discriminated here on a regular basis because of the color of their skin. No, NOT Black but White.
Written by: Helen, 5 Apr 2011 6:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Nagua
@Ricardolito - thanks, yes, I know I have to go to SD, I've listened to many 'abogado's', some say all I need is a new set of photo's, others say I have to start all over again, others say something inbetween; the problem is I don't know who to believe! One solicitor (lawyer) asked for 2K pesos just to investigate! I'm a single, UK female - preyed upon by all it seems. All I want is to stay here in this wonderful country and to make sure that I'm here legally..... so that I can start contributing to the economy here! I'm all for paying due taxes, a job would be nice!
@abc200 - thanks - I'll be in LT later this week, I'll pick up a copy....
Written by: bienamor, 6 Apr 2011 7:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
helen if you already have a cedula and residency, its very easy to renew just make sure you do it by April 30 see below
Foreigners reminded of 30 April cedula renewal deadline
The deadline for all foreigners to renew their personal identification cards, known as "cedulas", is 30 April. The latest grace period for obtaining this document was issued at the beginning of the year when the president of the Central Electoral Board (JCE), Roberto Rosario, announced that most resident foreigners in the country had out-of-date cedulas. Some 37,000 foreigners have cedulas that need to be renewed
This is done in Santo Domingo, and the last time around too me 10 minutes. To renew my residency took about 2 hours. Its not that hard. no lawyer required. As I said am assuming that you already have the documents, they are just expired!
http://www.dr1.com/forums/legal/1....idency-cards-drivers-license.htmlWritten by: abc200, 7 Apr 2011 1:12 AM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Helen
LT7 is on the web.
www.samana-lasterrenas.com/LT7
S.
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anything can be purchased in the DR including residency so what is the big deal here.
Give the Dominican people a chance,...... for crying out loud!!!!!
As for the 10 year ones, how will they verify?
Noble ideas, but very complicated to enforce, because the gist of the problem is just that: "undocumented".
Here's a UK example and it appears well north of anything imaginable in the DR/Haiti situation.
http://idcardandyou.co.uk/cost.html
Here's an analysis: http://www.it-director.com/business/security/content.php?cid=9843
http://www.eff.org/wp/biometrics-whos-watching-you
Without number this is meaningless
Leave the haitians, that came to the DR in the 19th century, alone. Deport the rest!
this is an inmigration issue, not a salary issue but let me say,
if you have the skills and education you can make money here... We are one of the strongest caribbean economies in terms of GDP. We also hold the record for economic growth in the caribbean during the past decade.... the private sector also holds the record for growth ..
We also hold the record for economic growth in the caribbean during the past decade.... the private sector also holds the record for growth .
WHAT U LEFT OUT
its also a place where 1,000 flee and 1,000 more would if they had the chance.
so many problems in this country, a plac e where it seems nothing is for real.where people need to live behind bars in their homes, scared to go out at night, fear of the police who bring their own crime wave to the people of the dominican republic, where those in control in the government treat and keep their own as "SLAV'E'S", where millions of dominicans spend 1/2 their lives in the dark, no luz., where millions carry fire arms., where their is no EDUCATION FOR ITS PEOPLE.
the list can go on. but lets be fair about this and not only talk about the good with it comes a lot of ulgy's....more uglys then good's..
u
Certainly people who are well established in the country should be regularized so they can pay property tax etc.
S.
helen ..I do not know where you are from but I assume you are not from Haiti so I very much doubt if they will target you ,,,if you want more information about renewal there are numerous accounts given in the other english on line news service . You will probably have to go to the capital .
@abc200 - thanks - I'll be in LT later this week, I'll pick up a copy....
Foreigners reminded of 30 April cedula renewal deadline
The deadline for all foreigners to renew their personal identification cards, known as "cedulas", is 30 April. The latest grace period for obtaining this document was issued at the beginning of the year when the president of the Central Electoral Board (JCE), Roberto Rosario, announced that most resident foreigners in the country had out-of-date cedulas. Some 37,000 foreigners have cedulas that need to be renewed
This is done in Santo Domingo, and the last time around too me 10 minutes. To renew my residency took about 2 hours. Its not that hard. no lawyer required. As I said am assuming that you already have the documents, they are just expired!
http://www.dr1.com/forums/legal/1....idency-cards-drivers-license.html
LT7 is on the web.
www.samana-lasterrenas.com/LT7
S.