Santo Domingo. - Cardinal Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez Thursday railed the U.S Ambassador’s criticism of the state of Law in the Dominican Republic, affirming that Washington lacks moral authority to do so.
Responding to Raul Izaguirre’s statements in the American Chamber of Commerce event Wednesday, the prelate noted that although he acknowledges that many aspects have to be shored up, the diplomat’s country also has many things to correct.
He said one must have the morals to advise others, especially if the advisor comes from a country which, although democratic, has many things that don’t function well.
Lopez Rodriguez also admits that when he speaks about the United States, he always has points of contention, and affirmed that the U.S. specifically in Arizona, is the only country in the world where an illegal immigrant is treated as a criminal. “I like for the one who’s going to give me advice to have all the authority to do so.”
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
I would have thought an "illegal immigrant" is a criminal. If you enter a country illegally you have broken the law and should be expected to be treated as a criminal. Obviously this cardinal does not understand anything about laws and should keep his comments to matters of the church!
Written by: RoyStone, 27 May 2011 12:52 PM
From: Australia
Wow, talk about a hypocritical ignoramus! "[USA] only country in the world where an illegal immigrant is treated as a criminal" many, many countries do, including the Dominican Republic!- According to the Catholic Church, babies are born with original sin, but it is okay for priests to sodomize little boys. Moral authority indeed!
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
He must be from the PLD
How many loans did the church give to DR? The united states has an interest in the dominican republic, it has loans to recoup and it feels that if the dominican republic doesn't straighten itself up the loans wont be paid in a timely fashion.... Plus the ambassador was hinting more on education than anything else, this goat-herder is talking about immigration. I think he has been hangin-out with the boys in office, making no sense at all. Where is leo on this, I know, he is under the goat-herders dress.
Written by: Cacique, 27 May 2011 1:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic
No say foul words of Cardinal, he defend dominican tribe before. Peace
From: Dominican Republic
Cardinal, you must also have humility to accept an observation and a critic from others, especially from those who are trying to help your country (whatever the reasons might be).
Written by: juanb, 27 May 2011 2:22 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Nice hat, sir.
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
He is the first ill-educated, roped covered, verministic, empty-suited, fluffy head Dominican leading the rest of the sheeps to the abysm.
No wonder..DR is LALA LAND!!
LAND OF MAKE BELIEVE!!!
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
Long LIVE THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD!!
U.S.A, U.S.A, U.S.A...We might no have the best system, but we are 120% more ruly than your filthy country. At least crooks go to jail. The law is better applied here than there...well-hold on!!
There's not law in waste land Dominican Republic.
So, go get you know what ? and pray to you know who?
Written by: derek, 27 May 2011 5:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic
As to Arizona, I have to agree partially. I am a South African who grew up under the Apartheid Regime. What is planned there is a replica the the SA 'DomPas' laws where blacks had to carry papers at all times, with proof they were legal in that township.. Whites had no such problems
Hendrik Verwoerd and BJ Vorster are probably howling with laughter in their graves at the US passing laws they would have been proud of.
From: United States, Brooklyn
Well said... For once I agree with this guy!
From: United States, In the place to be
Zig heil mein Kardinal!
From: United States, In the place to be
Do catholic priests have the moral authority (or any for that matter) to bug little boys & sometimes little girls?
Wow, what a hypocritical statement.
Written by: zooma, 27 May 2011 7:48 PM
From: United States
Me thinks the Cardinal should look a little inward. He claims the US treats illegal immigrants as criminals. At least the act of the US calling them criminals puts a human face on them. However, the haitian illegals in the DR are not treated as criminals, they are treated more like dogs.
The cardinal is the one of many who has the moral authority to speak out against the indignities forced upon the Dominican people by the state. Yet, he is the one seen cozying up to the politicians and then not having the intestinal fortitude to call them out for the lack of morals in their behavior.
When was the last time he went out into the poor barrios to mix with people and humble himself by washing the feet of a homeless person. He prefers the company of the politicos.
Written by: RoyStone, 27 May 2011 8:49 PM
From: Australia
The world's richest, and only tax-exempt multi-national has been robbing Latin American countries for centuries. As its Dominican Republican representative, the Cardinal knows what he's talking about? Like USA or not, she has given billions in aid to Latin American countries.
Written by: Escott, 27 May 2011 11:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
He should go back to slapping little arses and leave the political commentary to the bozos here!
Written by: Belial, 28 May 2011 12:13 AM
From: United States, Texas
In the sphere of ontology, I invariably disagree with experts on divine beings ... such as Cardinal Rodriguez.
But I am stunned by the amount of common ground that exists between him and me in the spheres of ethics and politics.
How ... in the world ... can an utterly depraved degenerate like the current bourgeois regime in the USA preach morality to others?
I share Cardinal Rodriguez' perplexity ... 100%.
I stand with this Cardinal, a man of ethics, against the slaves to ontology and cowardly conventionality.
Written by: RoyStone, 28 May 2011 1:06 AM
From: Australia
Belial,
The Catholic Church is as devoid of logic as it is of ethics.
From: United States, Brooklyn
Belial... well said bud
From: United States, Brooklyn
Belial... well said bud
Written by: RoyStone, 28 May 2011 5:46 AM
From: Australia
Look at this cross-dresser with a funny hat and a graven image of a corpse on a cross.
He gets his authority from The Bible - when one of the Ten Commandments ( Exodus 20:4 and Deuteronomy 5:8) forbids making a graven image of anything. Roman Catholicism is steeped in hypocracy!
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Belial / Franco
Your guy in the funny hat is not even giving a rebuttal to the comment made by the ambassador, just like all the guilty politician and liers, they change the subject when confronted with the truth... Where are the moral values that he talks about if he is not touching the subject ? NOT ONE POLITICIAN SHOWS FACE... I wonder why, leonel hasn't defended his government on false accusation and pretense......Oh yeah, he has people like the cardinal and YOOOZ TWO that defends the current corrupt government which doesn't adhere to laws already in place, by pointing the finger at the United States, you're only stating that things are fine and dandy in the dominican republic......Which is far from the truth.
Written by: BASTA, 28 May 2011 8:39 AM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
He gets his authority from The Bible== Is written on paper and We all wipe our asses with paper. Same old shit either way.
Written by: RoyStone, 28 May 2011 8:54 AM
From: Australia
BASTA,
You are dead right!
However say the same about the Koran and you risk being just plain dead!
Written by: anthonyC, 28 May 2011 9:05 AM
From: United States
Rules for maintaining your power and income in a 3rd World Country.
#1 Blame the USA for your problems.
#2 Invoke a mythical deity for inspiration.
#3 When all else fails...Blame the Evil, Greedy USA.
Written by: matador, 28 May 2011 9:12 AM
From: United States, www.brugal-ron.com/home.php
Mr: Cardinal Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez , I have something to said about you also, It see
like u are a complete ignorant, scamming, Idiot that have no clue of your mental state,what a
hypocritical statement you just made, How about u get your ass back into your church and pray
so u can become more intelligent, buen Baboso cock sucker, child rapers,,,that hides under those stupid looking clother and the religious to commit crimes""""
Written by: BASTA, 28 May 2011 9:40 AM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
However say the same about the Koran and you risk being just plain dead!= Again same Shit.
Since when have the Christians been saints. They wiped out ½ Europe and persecuted so call non-believers. In Papa New Guinea. Catholic planes are not allowed to land at Protestant villages and Catholic villages will not allow Protestant planes to land. Next the Hindus.
Written by: riosm, 28 May 2011 10:36 AM
From: United States
The Cardinal should study the California mission system for starters it has more of it's share of horrific abuse leveled at the native population with the....."in order to save their souls" to convert them into Catholicism all sanctioned by the church of Rome.
Native peoples were never considered humans by the church of Rome and believed they contained no souls as an justification of bad treatment.
Better yet he should re-visit the old churches in La Colonia all have secret stairways leading to dungeons.
Ever wonder what they were used for ?
Imagine that a church with secret rooms / prisons / dungeons.
Historically the church of Rome always followed the monarchs in their search for power / world conquest and in all cases the monarchs always got permission from the church of Rome with the "O.K what do we get out of it" ?
Written by: okian, 28 May 2011 4:27 PM
From: United States
The words, CATHOLIC and PRIEST together do conjure up many moral related issues of our day but "moral authority" isn't one of them. Hypocrisy at it's finest!
Written by: riosm, 28 May 2011 7:06 PM
From: United States
Okian
To think it all started with Quisqueya the stepping stone of what later would be repeated over and over again in Central, South America, Mexico to include 3/4 of the south west U.S.
I'm sorry but this man has a lot of nerve.
I guess this is what happens when as they say.....when you have too much time on your hands and your trying to make a name for yourself.
Is it any wonder why the church of Rome historically has so many secret societies, being that I'm Dominican the one really freaks me out the most are the "Knights of Columbus".
No real history ever told about Columbus, WHY ? if so a watered down version.
"Moral authority" WHAT A JOKE !
Nothing more then a man leading a man made "RELIGIOUS MONARCHY".
Written by: RoyStone, 28 May 2011 9:39 PM
From: Australia
I am more optimistic about the Dominican Republic's future after seeing so much criticism of the Roman Catholic Church on this blog site. I only hope it is not "out of the frying-pan and into the fire" of the Evangelist Churches who are even worse!
Written by: riosm, 28 May 2011 10:07 PM
From: United States
RoyStone
Say what.......coming from you ? I'm shocked even a atheist like you would pick sides from a man made religion with out historical truth / facts ?
But then again nothing like divide to conquer HUH !
Some see but don't see, some hear but don't hear, some reason without reason, some argue without substance, some will do anything to avoid the truth of man's twist on FAITH and into a man made religion.
Man made religion and atheist go hand 'n' hand don't you know !
Written by: RoyStone, 28 May 2011 10:17 PM
From: Australia
riosm,
I have told you many times - all religion is man-made bullshit! That includes the voices in your head - it is your deluded imagination, not god, put there by religion.
Get it?
Unfortunately not!
Back on your knees, idiot, and talk to your imaginary friend in the sky. He loves you ... Ha!
Written by: williom, 29 May 2011 2:12 AM
From: United States
déjà vu
From: United States
Cardinal Nicky looking like a complete joke once again. He is just so stupid he doesn't even realize how dumb he looks. Our country is run by a bunch of corrupt morons. When you live in a country with no real justice system, that hasn't mastered transport of electricity to its own people, with a banking system that isn't safe to store your money, doesn't allow the public the see the finances of every city they contribute taxes to and live, and the list goes on and on. We are a completely backward failed country. 3rd world is giving our government too much credit and this idiot is a perfect example of how our leaders are unfit to do their jobs and need to be replaced.
Written by: matador, 29 May 2011 10:45 AM
From: United States, www.brugal-ron.com/home.php
VeronicaDR,, thank you nice word,,,,, Believe or Not i really get surprise everytime I visit DR, 3 weeks ago I was there and the only thing I could tell you is that,,,,,, I m very proud of coming from such of beautiful Island, cause is beautiful, but at the same time is a shame that in the inside look like a dumpster,,,,Just by seeing how Much
Trash all over the place that have become a country wide problem,,,,
Crime is allover the news
Safelty, is not a right anymore, because there is none
Electricity, is a Joke 4 hour of electricity a day, come on now
Corruption, is number one in line cause thats the way of living in DR now
Water, come and go just like the Electricity does
Judicial System, is a complete Joke!!!
And the worst of all is The bunch CLOWNS that are running our country, they all don't worst the Shit, Done I said it but is the True fact saw it and live it my self,
Is a real SHAME what our country has come to"""""
And there is more:,,,, and we still have peopl
Written by: rush2112, 30 May 2011 3:26 AM
From: United States, between the sun and moon
Most of the critics of Arizona's law have never been to Arizona, let alone to any of its border cities. There is nothing like having the drug cartels come here, murder, or kidnap someone, and return to Mexico. Bush, Clinton, Bush, now Obama don't care about the borders, nor the crime. Yet they, the presidents I mentioned, were always in a rush to tell other countries i.e. Israel, what they should do about their border problems.
Cardinal, I encourage you to visit the border cities, and live in them, in a real home, with a job where you have to work with real people, and live with real people to see what is really going on here.
Written by: riosm, 30 May 2011 9:22 AM
From: United States
Rush2112,
I agree, may I add not to mention the possibility of terrorist and weapons entering U.S soil. Many middle east peoples look just like Mexicans.
The American illegal immigration problem also stems from Mexico's economic problems mixed with their corrupt Gov. system.
Should the Cardinal visit or find a new home there he'll be busy 24/7 doing the Rosary thing for funerals.
I have a new "La Causa" for him, leave politics set up camp south of the U.S border and provide food, health and shelter.
Or....
Set-up camp on Mexico's most southern border provide just mentioned and be a voice for those Central & South Americans caught by Mexican troops / drug cartels / bandits and who are being robbed, raped and in some cases murdered.
Written by: Regan, 30 May 2011 9:52 AM
From: Dominican Republic
One of the great things that I can do as a Catholic is say, Cardinal, you are wrong! The country with the most suppressive immigration laws is Mexico. My fellow Dominican and Americans are trashed by the Governmental agents and criminals (too often, indistinguishable). The DR has a few problems, and that report was like due-diligence. The Cardinal is once again seeing how many people he can alienate with off the cuff answers to stupid questions.
Written by: riosm, 30 May 2011 11:52 AM
From: United States
Regan,
I agree,
LOL maybe the good Cardinal can save both time and money by traveling west "Go west young man, go west" crossing the Haitian border and do what I've proposed after all the church of Rome did condone the practice of Santeria [another man made saint worship] which is a mixture of Voodoo and Catholicism, at least he''l feel right at home.
But then again some men only look for a political purpose in life.
Meanwhile I'll take someones advice.....I'll get on my knees and pray.
Written by: RoyStone, 30 May 2011 8:54 PM
From: Australia
risom,
I am as critical of the Roman Catholic Church as you are, but remember, without it, none of your Protestant Evangelist churches would exist - there would be no Holy Bible (thanks to Roman Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicea) or anything to protest about!
I notice the Cardinal has still not been trans-substantiated to Haiti, so I guess Jesus was lying when he said he will grant whatever you pray for, provided you truly have faith. (Matthew 21:21-22, Mark 11:24-25, Luke 11:9-13, John 16:23-24). Or maybe you have some doubts about your invisible friend in the sky?
Still I am flattered that you took my advice.
Written by: RoyStone, 30 May 2011 9:00 PM
From: Australia
I am surprised to see many Christians still on this site. Did you miss out on being called at The Rapture last weekend? Don't worry, there is another one due to leave in October. Maybe there is good broadband connection in heaven and you are blogging from there?
A lot of Christians ignore what Jesus actually says in the Bible. They also tend to add things to the actual words to make them say something else. If you honestly and truthfully read the Bible, without adding to it, it is very easy to see that Jesus is not saying that God will think about your prayers. He says God will grant all your prayers. Clearly, God doesn’t grant all prayers and this proves that Jesus was a habitual liar.
Written by: RoyStone, 30 May 2011 9:12 PM
From: Australia
Regan,
I am impressed that despite being a Catholic, you recognize that the Cardinal is "wrong". Soon you will realize that every member of the clergy is wrong also. From there you can go one of two ways - increase your delusion and become an Evangelist, or reduce it and become an Atheist or Agnostic. Atheists and Agnostics are Humanists who believe in justice, compassion, peace, tolerance, preservation of the environment, and Darwinian Evolution. Pope Ratzinger and the Vatican accept that Darwinian Evolution is an irrefutable scientific reality, but still say God is "turning the handle". Evangelists believe the universe was made in six days, about 4,000 years ago, and that you were made from dirt and a rib.
Take your pick.
Written by: riosm, 31 May 2011 11:03 AM
From: United States
From a atheist extraordinare non-believer to a ? I'll let the DT posters decide. In my opinion I will say your giving atheist a bad name, words do speak volumes and unchecked leads to hate.
Historically speaking man made religions are classic examples.
Many man made religions do believe that "Darwinian Evolution is an irrefutable scientific reality" without a dough in order to appease the numbers like standing on the middle ground keeping man as a focal point of belief in order to keep the numbers up by side stepping Faith.
Written by: RoyStone, 31 May 2011 7:24 PM
From: Australia
@risom,
If my " belief in justice, compassion, peace, tolerance, preservation of the environment, and Darwinian Evolution" is "giving atheist a bad name" then I doubt other Atheists want a "good" name by your definition.
So how did you miss out on the Rapture? Haven't read the Book of Revelation? It is in the New Testament by the way, not the Old Testament that you Evangelists have such a problem with. Oh I forgot ... Old Testament = Man Made Religion, New Testament = Faith inspired by God!
Written by: RoyStone, 31 May 2011 7:24 PM
From: Australia
@risom,
If my " belief in justice, compassion, peace, tolerance, preservation of the environment, and Darwinian Evolution" is "giving atheist a bad name" then I doubt other Atheists want a "good" name by your definition.
So how did you miss out on the Rapture? Haven't read the Book of Revelation? It is in the New Testament by the way, not the Old Testament that you Evangelists have such a problem with. Oh I forgot ... Old Testament = Man Made Religion, New Testament = Faith inspired by God!
Written by: riosm, 31 May 2011 9:20 PM
From: United States
RoyStone,
You mock and ridicule the word of God and the Brethren who believe in God. As I said I'll let the readers on DT decide.
What's really funny about atheist is you mock believers and get bend out of shape when your unable cast dough on true believers, why ?
No one knows the date or time of rapture only God, both the new and old testament are Gods inspired words and laws written by men. Man twists the word of God to benefit and glorify himself not God which ='s man made religion.
Remember that man who predicted 5-21-11 rapture used man's calculations.
Written by: williom, 1 Jun 2011 12:32 AM
From: United States
Gee! That's what I meant by: déjà vu
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How many loans did the church give to DR? The united states has an interest in the dominican republic, it has loans to recoup and it feels that if the dominican republic doesn't straighten itself up the loans wont be paid in a timely fashion.... Plus the ambassador was hinting more on education than anything else, this goat-herder is talking about immigration. I think he has been hangin-out with the boys in office, making no sense at all. Where is leo on this, I know, he is under the goat-herders dress.
Nice hat, sir.
No wonder..DR is LALA LAND!!
LAND OF MAKE BELIEVE!!!
U.S.A, U.S.A, U.S.A...We might no have the best system, but we are 120% more ruly than your filthy country. At least crooks go to jail. The law is better applied here than there...well-hold on!!
There's not law in waste land Dominican Republic.
So, go get you know what ? and pray to you know who?
Hendrik Verwoerd and BJ Vorster are probably howling with laughter in their graves at the US passing laws they would have been proud of.
Well said... For once I agree with this guy!
Wow, what a hypocritical statement.
Me thinks the Cardinal should look a little inward. He claims the US treats illegal immigrants as criminals. At least the act of the US calling them criminals puts a human face on them. However, the haitian illegals in the DR are not treated as criminals, they are treated more like dogs.
The cardinal is the one of many who has the moral authority to speak out against the indignities forced upon the Dominican people by the state. Yet, he is the one seen cozying up to the politicians and then not having the intestinal fortitude to call them out for the lack of morals in their behavior.
When was the last time he went out into the poor barrios to mix with people and humble himself by washing the feet of a homeless person. He prefers the company of the politicos.
But I am stunned by the amount of common ground that exists between him and me in the spheres of ethics and politics.
How ... in the world ... can an utterly depraved degenerate like the current bourgeois regime in the USA preach morality to others?
I share Cardinal Rodriguez' perplexity ... 100%.
I stand with this Cardinal, a man of ethics, against the slaves to ontology and cowardly conventionality.
The Catholic Church is as devoid of logic as it is of ethics.
Belial... well said bud
Belial... well said bud
He gets his authority from The Bible - when one of the Ten Commandments ( Exodus 20:4 and Deuteronomy 5:8) forbids making a graven image of anything. Roman Catholicism is steeped in hypocracy!
Your guy in the funny hat is not even giving a rebuttal to the comment made by the ambassador, just like all the guilty politician and liers, they change the subject when confronted with the truth... Where are the moral values that he talks about if he is not touching the subject ? NOT ONE POLITICIAN SHOWS FACE... I wonder why, leonel hasn't defended his government on false accusation and pretense......Oh yeah, he has people like the cardinal and YOOOZ TWO that defends the current corrupt government which doesn't adhere to laws already in place, by pointing the finger at the United States, you're only stating that things are fine and dandy in the dominican republic......Which is far from the truth.
You are dead right!
However say the same about the Koran and you risk being just plain dead!
#1 Blame the USA for your problems.
#2 Invoke a mythical deity for inspiration.
#3 When all else fails...Blame the Evil, Greedy USA.
like u are a complete ignorant, scamming, Idiot that have no clue of your mental state,what a
hypocritical statement you just made, How about u get your ass back into your church and pray
so u can become more intelligent, buen Baboso cock sucker, child rapers,,,that hides under those stupid looking clother and the religious to commit crimes""""
Since when have the Christians been saints. They wiped out ½ Europe and persecuted so call non-believers. In Papa New Guinea. Catholic planes are not allowed to land at Protestant villages and Catholic villages will not allow Protestant planes to land. Next the Hindus.
Native peoples were never considered humans by the church of Rome and believed they contained no souls as an justification of bad treatment.
Better yet he should re-visit the old churches in La Colonia all have secret stairways leading to dungeons.
Ever wonder what they were used for ?
Imagine that a church with secret rooms / prisons / dungeons.
Historically the church of Rome always followed the monarchs in their search for power / world conquest and in all cases the monarchs always got permission from the church of Rome with the "O.K what do we get out of it" ?
To think it all started with Quisqueya the stepping stone of what later would be repeated over and over again in Central, South America, Mexico to include 3/4 of the south west U.S.
I'm sorry but this man has a lot of nerve.
I guess this is what happens when as they say.....when you have too much time on your hands and your trying to make a name for yourself.
Is it any wonder why the church of Rome historically has so many secret societies, being that I'm Dominican the one really freaks me out the most are the "Knights of Columbus".
No real history ever told about Columbus, WHY ? if so a watered down version.
"Moral authority" WHAT A JOKE !
Nothing more then a man leading a man made "RELIGIOUS MONARCHY".
Say what.......coming from you ? I'm shocked even a atheist like you would pick sides from a man made religion with out historical truth / facts ?
But then again nothing like divide to conquer HUH !
Some see but don't see, some hear but don't hear, some reason without reason, some argue without substance, some will do anything to avoid the truth of man's twist on FAITH and into a man made religion.
Man made religion and atheist go hand 'n' hand don't you know !
I have told you many times - all religion is man-made bullshit! That includes the voices in your head - it is your deluded imagination, not god, put there by religion.
Get it?
Unfortunately not!
Back on your knees, idiot, and talk to your imaginary friend in the sky. He loves you ... Ha!
Trash all over the place that have become a country wide problem,,,,
Crime is allover the news
Safelty, is not a right anymore, because there is none
Electricity, is a Joke 4 hour of electricity a day, come on now
Corruption, is number one in line cause thats the way of living in DR now
Water, come and go just like the Electricity does
Judicial System, is a complete Joke!!!
And the worst of all is The bunch CLOWNS that are running our country, they all don't worst the Shit, Done I said it but is the True fact saw it and live it my self,
Is a real SHAME what our country has come to"""""
And there is more:,,,, and we still have peopl
Cardinal, I encourage you to visit the border cities, and live in them, in a real home, with a job where you have to work with real people, and live with real people to see what is really going on here.
I agree, may I add not to mention the possibility of terrorist and weapons entering U.S soil. Many middle east peoples look just like Mexicans.
The American illegal immigration problem also stems from Mexico's economic problems mixed with their corrupt Gov. system.
Should the Cardinal visit or find a new home there he'll be busy 24/7 doing the Rosary thing for funerals.
I have a new "La Causa" for him, leave politics set up camp south of the U.S border and provide food, health and shelter.
Or....
Set-up camp on Mexico's most southern border provide just mentioned and be a voice for those Central & South Americans caught by Mexican troops / drug cartels / bandits and who are being robbed, raped and in some cases murdered.
I agree,
LOL maybe the good Cardinal can save both time and money by traveling west "Go west young man, go west" crossing the Haitian border and do what I've proposed after all the church of Rome did condone the practice of Santeria [another man made saint worship] which is a mixture of Voodoo and Catholicism, at least he''l feel right at home.
But then again some men only look for a political purpose in life.
Meanwhile I'll take someones advice.....I'll get on my knees and pray.
I am as critical of the Roman Catholic Church as you are, but remember, without it, none of your Protestant Evangelist churches would exist - there would be no Holy Bible (thanks to Roman Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicea) or anything to protest about!
I notice the Cardinal has still not been trans-substantiated to Haiti, so I guess Jesus was lying when he said he will grant whatever you pray for, provided you truly have faith. (Matthew 21:21-22, Mark 11:24-25, Luke 11:9-13, John 16:23-24). Or maybe you have some doubts about your invisible friend in the sky?
Still I am flattered that you took my advice.
A lot of Christians ignore what Jesus actually says in the Bible. They also tend to add things to the actual words to make them say something else. If you honestly and truthfully read the Bible, without adding to it, it is very easy to see that Jesus is not saying that God will think about your prayers. He says God will grant all your prayers. Clearly, God doesn’t grant all prayers and this proves that Jesus was a habitual liar.
I am impressed that despite being a Catholic, you recognize that the Cardinal is "wrong". Soon you will realize that every member of the clergy is wrong also. From there you can go one of two ways - increase your delusion and become an Evangelist, or reduce it and become an Atheist or Agnostic. Atheists and Agnostics are Humanists who believe in justice, compassion, peace, tolerance, preservation of the environment, and Darwinian Evolution. Pope Ratzinger and the Vatican accept that Darwinian Evolution is an irrefutable scientific reality, but still say God is "turning the handle". Evangelists believe the universe was made in six days, about 4,000 years ago, and that you were made from dirt and a rib.
Take your pick.
Historically speaking man made religions are classic examples.
Many man made religions do believe that "Darwinian Evolution is an irrefutable scientific reality" without a dough in order to appease the numbers like standing on the middle ground keeping man as a focal point of belief in order to keep the numbers up by side stepping Faith.
If my " belief in justice, compassion, peace, tolerance, preservation of the environment, and Darwinian Evolution" is "giving atheist a bad name" then I doubt other Atheists want a "good" name by your definition.
So how did you miss out on the Rapture? Haven't read the Book of Revelation? It is in the New Testament by the way, not the Old Testament that you Evangelists have such a problem with. Oh I forgot ... Old Testament = Man Made Religion, New Testament = Faith inspired by God!
If my " belief in justice, compassion, peace, tolerance, preservation of the environment, and Darwinian Evolution" is "giving atheist a bad name" then I doubt other Atheists want a "good" name by your definition.
So how did you miss out on the Rapture? Haven't read the Book of Revelation? It is in the New Testament by the way, not the Old Testament that you Evangelists have such a problem with. Oh I forgot ... Old Testament = Man Made Religion, New Testament = Faith inspired by God!
You mock and ridicule the word of God and the Brethren who believe in God. As I said I'll let the readers on DT decide.
What's really funny about atheist is you mock believers and get bend out of shape when your unable cast dough on true believers, why ?
No one knows the date or time of rapture only God, both the new and old testament are Gods inspired words and laws written by men. Man twists the word of God to benefit and glorify himself not God which ='s man made religion.
Remember that man who predicted 5-21-11 rapture used man's calculations.
Gee! That's what I meant by: déjà vu