NEW YORK.- Dominican and Ecuadorian adolescents in New York lead in suicides among the frustrated and depressed girls who decide to take their own lives, followed by Puerto Ricans, revealed Wednesday the organization “Life is Precious” which works in preventing such cases.
A report by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) found that 15% of the Latino adolescents in New York attempt suicide for different reasons, and in Brooklyn’s case, a stark 21%, most of them students in the county’s public school.
The problem, the report says, is linked to the distancing between potential suicide victims and their immigrant mothers and persisting taboos among traditional families that emigrate to the U.S., one of the world’s most liberal and open societies.
Doctor Rosa Gil, of the CDC, says the magnitude of the problem is reason for concern and urges an increase of prevention programs.
The physician who’s also one of the founders of “Life is Precious,” added that the adolescents who choose to commit suicide crises face factors such as culture shock within the immigrant community.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
The tri state area is a pretty lousy place to grow up in , drugs , alchohol abuse , peer pressure in school , the popular crowd not fitting in , I live in new jersey and let me tell you something , I consider this state to be the most boring and miserable place you could live in , in the whole nation , this state represents everything thats wrong in america , the bergen county area of new jersey is the highest tax county in the nation ,and the highest cost of living , has the highest real state market, but yet you still have welfare moms living just a coulpe miles away from a englewood cliff mansion? you got beggars , crackhead moms , and thousands of bums all over this area. If you wanna raise you children I would suggest raising them down south , because this place sucks.
Written by: danny00, 9 Jun 2011 12:59 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
u just found out about new jersey?
when living in new york years ago, jersey was the big joke of the day every day of the week.
much nicer places to bring up ones kids then in new jersey.
also if possible say away from washington heights in the bronx, in 2nd thoughts say far away from the bronxtotal.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
yea maybey I should move to that smelly swamp in that paradised you call florida lol , that way i could learn those great redneck accustoms like sleeping with my cousin , yallllllll coma back now ya here!
Written by: danny00, 9 Jun 2011 1:03 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
we lived in syosset long island. the best school system in the states and a great town to bring up ones children. little bit on the expensive side, in the 1980's the homes went up at 40% a year. not throwing numbers in the air.
not many homes for sale and it seem like the whole world wanted to buy in this town so their kids could go to the schools.in syosset.
Written by: Atabey, 9 Jun 2011 1:11 PM
From: United States, NYC
The Tri-State area has many deficits and advantages. Sorry to hear you are not among the better off, but there are many wonderful, CULTURALLY ENRICHING, aspects to living say in Manhattan, NYC. Yes, its expensive to live and you need to equip yourself with a profession or educational base to see your dreams come true. But there are many "waste lands" that have perfect lawns and picket fences" in Arizona, for instance.
As for why these young girls and women are committing suicides at a higher rate, I would say that the cultural clashes, poor family communication, and low educational expectations in a highly competitive environment where the "look" of success is far beyond most Dominican girls are important considerations in the equation. If you look into the young female fatalities, I'll bet that the family structure was vastly deficient. Parents need to develop points of success for their children, and if they aren't cognizant of doing so, they need to get help.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
when living in new york years ago, jersey was the big joke of the day every day of the week.
much nicer places to bring up ones kids then in new jersey.
danny maybey in the past new jersey was a joke , but every new york proffesional in the past 16 years haved move here to jersey , due to the insane eye gouging real state houses in new york city and your long island and queens its really expensive to buy a house there, but guess whats happening there , is now happening here in bergen county , the cost of living has gone up and so has the taxes and market value of houses have gone up , so now it just becomes a matter of whos coming and going , or who will survived the onslaught of the bankers.
Written by: Atabey, 9 Jun 2011 1:23 PM
From: United States, NYC
My wife once taught in an inner-city College and her experience lends support for massive family abuse, sexual abuse especially among many young females. The tales of abuse was staggering. My wife puts it at close to 80%! of her female students. Usually, it was some family or close relative of the victim; with step-fathers and boy-friends also contributing. And the worse cases happened with foster cared females. Young Males weren't far off from also being abused.
From: United States
i went to school in NJ when i first went to live to th estates for the first time and boy there sure was alot of peer preassure and preassure from students also giving u an atitude because u are an "immigrant" its something not many ppl learn to deal with and unfortunately alot of ppl have commited suicide due to that, something i noticed anybody close to big cities is always under alot of stress which is why ppl in NY area tend to always be in a hurry and angry at life. life in any state not close to any big city is beautiful as i also have lived in south carolina and it was nice there.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
in 1996 first time i moved in englewood nj with my family , on the first day my mother moved in the neighborhood in her newly bought 3 floor house , my mother was outside taking out the garbage , i was 13 at the time , and out of nowhere this big dumb looking black dude walks past my moms and says in spanich puta bytch , get the f outa here ! lmao thats your new jersey hospitality right there , mind you this on the first day arriiving in the neighborhood lol ,
Written by: Atabey, 9 Jun 2011 1:37 PM
From: United States, NYC
True, the lay back nature of many places like South Carolina is probably much more in keeping with the majority of Dominicans coming over. Many people live doubled up and this produces many problems; especially sexual abuse issues.
It would be interesting to see what the breakdown in ages for the victims. How old were they when they came over? Any differences between those who arrived from DR and those US born Dominican females?
Written by: mfranc68, 9 Jun 2011 1:38 PM
From: United States
I was born and raised in New Jersey. There are many Dominican as well as other hispanic people living here. We are no worse then anywhere else and better then a lot of other places. The whole country is hurting and you can find bad anywhere. Do not write off the whole state.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
As for why these young girls and women are committing suicides at a higher rate, I would say that the cultural clashes, poor family communication, and low educational expectations in a highly competitive environment where the "look" of success is far beyond most Dominican girls
ATABEY YOUR 100 RIGHT IT POOR EDUCATION AND BAD HOUSEHOLD , COMBINE THAT WITH THE GOVERNMENT SESSION EIGHT HOUSING FAMILIES , MOST OF THE FAMILIES THAT BELONG IN THESE PROGRAMS ARE RAISING ONE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS , MEANING WE GOT ALL THIS BASTARDISED CHILDREN RUNNING AROUND SMOKING WEED AND GETTING INTO TROUBLE , THEN YOU HAVE THESE KIND OF KIDS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM CORRUTING IT LIKE A VIRUS , THE SAD PART OF ALL THIS THAT IF YOU A GOOD KID WHOS DOING GOOD IN SCHOOL , CHANCES ARE HE WILL FALL TO IN WITH WRONG CROWD DUE TO PEER PRESSURE AND FALL VICTIM TO THE LIBERAL WET DREAM THAT IS THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.
Written by: tmnyc, 9 Jun 2011 2:18 PM
From: American Samoa
"say [sic] away from washington heights in the bronx"
danny00,
Washington Heights is NOT in the Bronx.
Written by: anthonyC, 9 Jun 2011 2:31 PM
From: United States
another Victory for the progressive/permissive way to raise children
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Sad.
Also linked to educational problems.
Very few of those kids are prepared to live in an advanced society and will not adapt easily.
Written by: riosm, 9 Jun 2011 4:48 PM
From: United States
Truly sad indeed......
Written by: Username, 10 Jun 2011 12:03 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: Pepe32, 10 Jun 2011 12:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic
As usual these liberal Aholes always blame traditional values when it is the lack of those values that causes these problems!
Why didn't the more traditional people have these problems before and why is it more prevalent in "modern" societies!
Written by: riosm, 10 Jun 2011 12:58 PM
From: United States
Pepe32,
I'm with you, I agree, you nailed it.
Written by: Kaliman, 10 Jun 2011 1:19 PM
From: United States, California
My heart goes out to all the beautiful people that need our help. They should not feel the need to take their own life. I lost my mother in 1980 and my sister in 2000 to suicide. The experience and the pain are off of the charts; truly beyond comprehension. The biggest problem is culture shock; not maintaining the same social patterns as before. At times it is the direct fault of a corrupt government that has been too punitive. At times it is the indirect fault of government because of the fascist forms of medicine or lack of alternatives to curing culture shock and or forms of depression. I blame the government of the USA for the deaths of my mother and of my sister. We need more prevention programs. We need more intelligence about what we are doing. We need to consider all alternatives: spiritual or religious, environmental, social, emotional, cultural & financial. What does the person need & want? What is the proper form of medicine or cure to be applied? We cannot be so ignorant?
Written by: Pepe32, 10 Jun 2011 1:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic
First of all I am sorry for your losses but I don't think the problem is with the government.In the past people were poorer and with less assistance and opportunities yet this rarely happened ,depression among teenage girls in the US and "modern" societies is rampant .
The hedonism and the liberal values in these societies neglect the human spirit and push all sorts of twisted values and pressures on kids and without a strong moral support the results are to be expected.
From: United States
the article reads
Dominican and Ecuadorian adolescents in New York lead in suicides among the frustrated and depressed girls who decide to take their own lives,
frustrated and depressed GIRLS. strangely enough, the suicide rate among women in the USA is far lower than that among men. that statistic is stood on its head among Dominican girls. Dr Atabey has given his usual superficial dissertation as to why these girls might be MOTIVATED to commit suicide. let us take some numbers. in Australia, 3% of the population CONTEMPLATE suicide at any given point in time. that is 3 out of every hundred. how many ACTUALLY do? the fact is that for every contemplated suicide, there are two dynamics at play. one is the motivation to kill one´s self, and the other is the animation to withstand the grief of life, and soldier on. so, Atabey, can you tell us why it is that these girls do not summon up the fortitude to continue living? surely other girls are exposed to equivalent misery?
From: United States
whenever there is a big economic meltdown, such as the dot com bubble bursting, some guys jump off rooftops...others plot ways to make the next fortune. the motivations are the same, so kindly tell us why you think that they do not all form a line and take turns jumping?this is not the subject for pontification by people who do not have the faintest idea of human psychology, such as Pepe32, who should stick to the only thing he understands, which is Haitian bashing.
Written by: ElChico, 10 Jun 2011 2:05 PM
From: United States
Not really surprised by this. Dominican parents are crazy. LOL. I mean I love my parents don't get me wrong but a lot of the stuff they did to raise myself and my sister I do not intend on following when I raise my kids. They especially put a lot of pressure on girls. Some of the stuff my sister went through was very unfair. My sister had to help raise me as well help with all the chores in the house on top of that she was the family translator. All this while being expected to be an A+ student and the virgin Mary. Looking back at it now she barely had a childhood. Let's not act like there isn't a huge double standard in the Dominican community when it comes to raising girls versus boys. I think that compounded with other factors such as the lack of a father figure, poverty and other inner city stress factors is the reason for the high suicide rates...
Written by: ElChico, 10 Jun 2011 2:12 PM
From: United States
"I was born and raised in New Jersey. There are many Dominican as well as other hispanic people living here. We are no worse then anywhere else and better then a lot of other places. The whole country is hurting and you can find bad anywhere. Do not write off the whole state."
I would tend to agree with this. I have several family members who made the move to Jersey years back and overall it was the right move for them. Better schools (at least back then), less city stress. All those family members turned out okay and are doing well. Whatver works for you. My immediate family chose to stay in NYC and I think they kinda regret it now. I mean my sister and I turned out well but my folks feel kinda trapped in NYC now and they might have had more options if they made the move over there.
Written by: Pepe32, 10 Jun 2011 3:47 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Since "el jamaiquino" is not worth my time I will not even bother to respond to his idiotic statements.
Now Water Polo
"Very few of those kids are prepared to live in an advanced society and will not adapt easily."
Could you please tell me why some very advanced societies like the Scandinavian nations have high suicide rates?
Liberalism is the downfall of society and no matter how much education is offered it cannot replace the strength of traditional societies.
Written by: ElChico, 10 Jun 2011 4:05 PM
From: United States
Advanced Schmanced the problem is modern kids with modern more liberal views clashing with their old school more conservative parents. Now this is the same story for all immigrant groups in NYC the problem is modern society with the internet turns it up to the umpteenth degree. It's a more difficult situation not to mention all the other factors at play...
Written by: Atabey, 10 Jun 2011 5:33 PM
From: United States, NYC
"...Atabey, can you tell us why it is that these girls do not summon up the fortitude to continue living? surely other girls are exposed to equivalent misery?"
Well, El Dready that's what I'm sure some subsequent studies will try to determine. But as I've stated, lack of family structure and a strong bias against females-read ElChico-are contributing factors. Young female abuse is rampant in many cases, as my wife's brief experience in inner city College gave me access to. Having to double up and the lack of modern, i.e., high expectations with "points of success" in their lives are contributing factors. I once dated a young Puerto Rican woman who was going to Harvard-she finished at the top of her class and is doing very well for herself out in California. Her mother and I had several conversations about her daughters upbringing. The teenage years are too often fraught with many difficult moments.
Written by: Atabey, 10 Jun 2011 5:38 PM
From: United States, NYC
What made her daughter's transition easier was having her apply herself seriously in her studies. Her parents supported her big time with High Expectations and giving her opportunities to apply her skills and thus earn for herself "points of success." So, I reason that many of these young women are growing up in households with little understanding that it takes more than providing some food, cloths, and housing. That children in a competitive environment require a maturing and sustained effort on the part of their parents that is not satisfied by latchkey parenting.
There are many contributing factors I suspect, but poor parenting is at the top.
From: United States
little Pepe le Pew, idiot extraordinaire, offers this remark
Liberalism is the downfall of society and no matter how much education is offered it cannot replace the strength of traditional societies.
first of all , fool, define liberalism. then, when you are done, if you ever are, give us a chronology of suicide data, showing, in any country you choose, the rise, or fall, of the suicide rates. then, give us a timeline of the changes from liberalism to a more conservative lifestyle. show a correlation between liberal attitudes, and suicides. if you can achieve all of that, with your limited academic tools, show us that any correlation between a rise in suicide rates, and a leaning toward liberalism, is not merely coincidental. here is the issue at hand. suicide is the most extreme act that a human being can undertake. it defies explanation, at the basic level. formidable minds have studied this vexing issue, for centuries. it invokes all kinds of possible suggestions
From: United States
maybe the victim is deprtessed, because he believes that his family has failed him. or, because he feels that he has failed his family. maybe he sees the future through a very bleak set of lenses, and believes it to be hopeless. maybe, he suffers from clinical depression, which is a chemical imbalance. there are reasons too numerous to ponder, which is why these matters are best studied by people with a brain, and not cretins and low grade morons like Pepe. as to making reference to my nationality...it just goes to show how low class and distasteful you are. only the most unevolved forms of animals resorts to such adolescent low blows, in order to make a case. i have three words for you, Pepe...GO TO SCHOOL. when you go to class, try to learn some class.
Written by: riosm, 11 Jun 2011 11:18 AM
From: United States
Dreadlocks
There are many forms of suicide.....all with the same end results.
In the inner cities of America one is called joining gangs and doing drugs more like SUICIDE ON THE INSTALLMENT PLAN living by chance with the "don't give BLANK" additude.
Add with the human need of being loved, excepted, were do I fit in, loving supporting parents, be a part of, and self esteem this type mentioned were now seeing mainly in the new immigrant first generation Americans.
If anybody hasn't noticed today they call them selves "EMO's" you know the bunch many dress in black, slice and dice themselves, death metal, death the only alternative, they'll be sorry, doom and gloom, divorced, 99% come from single parents...the happy bunch.
Can anybody say..."Columbine" only they choose revenge "the big pay-back" and didn't leave earth alone.
Many parents are told to except this as a "Teenage phase" with the "they'll grow out of it" mentality.
Take care.
From: United States
riosm, all i am trying to explain to the mental retard Pepe is that suicide is such a multifaceted issue, you cannot explain it with some simplistic nonsense about liberalism. that is the best that Pepe can do, and i understand that, because the guy has a single digit IQ.
Written by: RoyStone, 11 Jun 2011 12:42 PM
From: Australia
Pepe32,
For those of us who do not have your global experience and knowledge, please tell us - exactly where are these "societies with traditional values" that have such low youth suicide rates?
Written by: RoyStone, 11 Jun 2011 1:16 PM
From: Australia
In Australia, suicide rates, especially youth suicide rates, have been steadily dropping since the mid 1990's. So have "traditional values". Belief in god and religious adherence has declined rapidly over this time. According to Wikipedia, Japan, a very traditional country compared with Australia, has three times Australia's suicide rate. Also Wikipedia quotes the Dominican Republic rate as very low, and in Haiti it is zero.
I would suggest the figures provided by the Japanese and Australian governments to be accurate, and those by the Dominican and Haitian governments to be totally fictitious.
The indicators for suicide are very varied and complex. It is easy to make assumptions based on our own opinions and values, however the statistics show it to be very different.
From: United States
Hellborn. I am so happy you have changed shrink and medications.
You make a lot on sense now.
I hate to tell you I do agree with you__What a shame I have not discovered this new you before___
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
etiennec01 coming from you thats admirable ? i guess
From: United States
Roy, judging by the insights of the learned Pepe, i wonder what the suicide rates among the hippies was-
Written by: riosm, 11 Jun 2011 8:47 PM
From: United States
Dreadlocks
I believe in the 60's It was called self inflicted drug OVERDOSE ! leaving earth in a altered / unnatural state of mind.
From: United States
hey, Pepe, RoyStone asked this question of you
Pepe32,
For those of us who do not have your global experience and knowledge, please tell us - exactly where are these "societies with traditional values" that have such low youth suicide rates?
i detect the absence of a response, at least up until now. do i take it that this is going to be yet one more episode in which you make some asinine, indefensible remark, and, when challenged, you put your scruffy tail between your legs and run for the thicket? i thought so.
Written by: riosm, 12 Jun 2011 9:13 PM
From: United States
how about.....suicide a permanent solution for a temporary problem.
Written by: RoyStone, 13 Jun 2011 12:00 PM
From: Australia
Pepe32, we are still awaiting your pearls of wisdom.
From: United States
do not hold your breath, Roy. Pepe is a renowned coward, who makes remarks he cannot defend. when called upon, he takes the juvenile road, lashing out with little xenophobic non sequiturs. he then ,predictably, runs off and hides, only to surface some time later, with more silliness. if this was a thread bashing Haitians, he would be in full song. since it actually requires knowledge to sustain some sort of argument, he is out of his depth. or , in his case, shallows.
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when living in new york years ago, jersey was the big joke of the day every day of the week.
much nicer places to bring up ones kids then in new jersey.
also if possible say away from washington heights in the bronx, in 2nd thoughts say far away from the bronxtotal.
not many homes for sale and it seem like the whole world wanted to buy in this town so their kids could go to the schools.in syosset.
As for why these young girls and women are committing suicides at a higher rate, I would say that the cultural clashes, poor family communication, and low educational expectations in a highly competitive environment where the "look" of success is far beyond most Dominican girls are important considerations in the equation. If you look into the young female fatalities, I'll bet that the family structure was vastly deficient. Parents need to develop points of success for their children, and if they aren't cognizant of doing so, they need to get help.
much nicer places to bring up ones kids then in new jersey.
danny maybey in the past new jersey was a joke , but every new york proffesional in the past 16 years haved move here to jersey , due to the insane eye gouging real state houses in new york city and your long island and queens its really expensive to buy a house there, but guess whats happening there , is now happening here in bergen county , the cost of living has gone up and so has the taxes and market value of houses have gone up , so now it just becomes a matter of whos coming and going , or who will survived the onslaught of the bankers.
It would be interesting to see what the breakdown in ages for the victims. How old were they when they came over? Any differences between those who arrived from DR and those US born Dominican females?
ATABEY YOUR 100 RIGHT IT POOR EDUCATION AND BAD HOUSEHOLD , COMBINE THAT WITH THE GOVERNMENT SESSION EIGHT HOUSING FAMILIES , MOST OF THE FAMILIES THAT BELONG IN THESE PROGRAMS ARE RAISING ONE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS , MEANING WE GOT ALL THIS BASTARDISED CHILDREN RUNNING AROUND SMOKING WEED AND GETTING INTO TROUBLE , THEN YOU HAVE THESE KIND OF KIDS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM CORRUTING IT LIKE A VIRUS , THE SAD PART OF ALL THIS THAT IF YOU A GOOD KID WHOS DOING GOOD IN SCHOOL , CHANCES ARE HE WILL FALL TO IN WITH WRONG CROWD DUE TO PEER PRESSURE AND FALL VICTIM TO THE LIBERAL WET DREAM THAT IS THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.
danny00,
Washington Heights is NOT in the Bronx.
Also linked to educational problems.
Very few of those kids are prepared to live in an advanced society and will not adapt easily.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcyvusf7zwg <------- I'd kill myself too.
Why didn't the more traditional people have these problems before and why is it more prevalent in "modern" societies!
I'm with you, I agree, you nailed it.
The hedonism and the liberal values in these societies neglect the human spirit and push all sorts of twisted values and pressures on kids and without a strong moral support the results are to be expected.
Dominican and Ecuadorian adolescents in New York lead in suicides among the frustrated and depressed girls who decide to take their own lives,
frustrated and depressed GIRLS. strangely enough, the suicide rate among women in the USA is far lower than that among men. that statistic is stood on its head among Dominican girls. Dr Atabey has given his usual superficial dissertation as to why these girls might be MOTIVATED to commit suicide. let us take some numbers. in Australia, 3% of the population CONTEMPLATE suicide at any given point in time. that is 3 out of every hundred. how many ACTUALLY do? the fact is that for every contemplated suicide, there are two dynamics at play. one is the motivation to kill one´s self, and the other is the animation to withstand the grief of life, and soldier on. so, Atabey, can you tell us why it is that these girls do not summon up the fortitude to continue living? surely other girls are exposed to equivalent misery?
I would tend to agree with this. I have several family members who made the move to Jersey years back and overall it was the right move for them. Better schools (at least back then), less city stress. All those family members turned out okay and are doing well. Whatver works for you. My immediate family chose to stay in NYC and I think they kinda regret it now. I mean my sister and I turned out well but my folks feel kinda trapped in NYC now and they might have had more options if they made the move over there.
Now Water Polo
"Very few of those kids are prepared to live in an advanced society and will not adapt easily."
Could you please tell me why some very advanced societies like the Scandinavian nations have high suicide rates?
Liberalism is the downfall of society and no matter how much education is offered it cannot replace the strength of traditional societies.
Well, El Dready that's what I'm sure some subsequent studies will try to determine. But as I've stated, lack of family structure and a strong bias against females-read ElChico-are contributing factors. Young female abuse is rampant in many cases, as my wife's brief experience in inner city College gave me access to. Having to double up and the lack of modern, i.e., high expectations with "points of success" in their lives are contributing factors. I once dated a young Puerto Rican woman who was going to Harvard-she finished at the top of her class and is doing very well for herself out in California. Her mother and I had several conversations about her daughters upbringing. The teenage years are too often fraught with many difficult moments.
There are many contributing factors I suspect, but poor parenting is at the top.
Liberalism is the downfall of society and no matter how much education is offered it cannot replace the strength of traditional societies.
first of all , fool, define liberalism. then, when you are done, if you ever are, give us a chronology of suicide data, showing, in any country you choose, the rise, or fall, of the suicide rates. then, give us a timeline of the changes from liberalism to a more conservative lifestyle. show a correlation between liberal attitudes, and suicides. if you can achieve all of that, with your limited academic tools, show us that any correlation between a rise in suicide rates, and a leaning toward liberalism, is not merely coincidental. here is the issue at hand. suicide is the most extreme act that a human being can undertake. it defies explanation, at the basic level. formidable minds have studied this vexing issue, for centuries. it invokes all kinds of possible suggestions
There are many forms of suicide.....all with the same end results.
In the inner cities of America one is called joining gangs and doing drugs more like SUICIDE ON THE INSTALLMENT PLAN living by chance with the "don't give BLANK" additude.
Add with the human need of being loved, excepted, were do I fit in, loving supporting parents, be a part of, and self esteem this type mentioned were now seeing mainly in the new immigrant first generation Americans.
If anybody hasn't noticed today they call them selves "EMO's" you know the bunch many dress in black, slice and dice themselves, death metal, death the only alternative, they'll be sorry, doom and gloom, divorced, 99% come from single parents...the happy bunch.
Can anybody say..."Columbine" only they choose revenge "the big pay-back" and didn't leave earth alone.
Many parents are told to except this as a "Teenage phase" with the "they'll grow out of it" mentality.
Take care.
For those of us who do not have your global experience and knowledge, please tell us - exactly where are these "societies with traditional values" that have such low youth suicide rates?
I would suggest the figures provided by the Japanese and Australian governments to be accurate, and those by the Dominican and Haitian governments to be totally fictitious.
The indicators for suicide are very varied and complex. It is easy to make assumptions based on our own opinions and values, however the statistics show it to be very different.
You make a lot on sense now.
I hate to tell you I do agree with you__What a shame I have not discovered this new you before___
I believe in the 60's It was called self inflicted drug OVERDOSE ! leaving earth in a altered / unnatural state of mind.
Pepe32,
For those of us who do not have your global experience and knowledge, please tell us - exactly where are these "societies with traditional values" that have such low youth suicide rates?
i detect the absence of a response, at least up until now. do i take it that this is going to be yet one more episode in which you make some asinine, indefensible remark, and, when challenged, you put your scruffy tail between your legs and run for the thicket? i thought so.