Santo Domingo. The sisters Crismeri and Erika Guerrero narrated to investigators that they strangled the Higüey businesswoman Wilma Teresa Martinez the same day they kidnapped her, and dumped her body in scrubs along the Miches-El Seibo highway (east).
They said they convinced their victim that a witch of the zone would rid her of spells cast against her and that she must remain kneeling and with her feet and hands tied for one hour, before starting the exorcism to cast out the evil spirits from her.
It was then, they said, that they placed a plastic bag over her and strangled her.
Yesterday, the Police arrested Sabino Ramos and Erika’s husband, Ramon Báez, whom according to the two sisters was the one who decapitated the victim.
After the murder they mounted the body in a SUV but prior to dumping it, burned it to keep it from smelling. They said the murder was to steal US$80,000 allegedly in the victim’s possession.
Chilling tale
Crismeri Castillo, who has a police record, said she paid Ramon Sabino RD$16,000 two days later to sever the head, to prevent it from being recognized if found.
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Grisly, mot definitely.
But grizzly?
Written by: BLANCO, 19 Aug 2011 9:47 AM
From: Dominican Republic
no comment necessary....this what the new dominican society HAS COME TOO!!!!!
Written by: anthonyC, 19 Aug 2011 10:19 AM
From: United States
"They said they convinced their victim that a witch of the zone would rid her of spells cast against her and that she must remain kneeling and with her feet and hands tied for one hour, before starting the exorcism to cast out the evil spirits from her. "
Seriously?
While I don't wish it on anyone you have to think that maybe this was a victory for social Darwinism.
From: United States, Omnipresence
Definitely "death penalty" material here.....If the victim has any family, I'm sure vendetta will be the order of the day....
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
Yesterday ,Jim Harrington was telling us all that it was the work of drug gangs and the government was to blame and got very angry when caution was urged in his remarks ...and of course his twin gmiller came in and produced his normal anti DR remarks .
Now it appears the poor womans husband is very rich and this is a kidnapping by two women from Higuey wanting quick money .
So where is the apology from JimH for misleading everyone with his pathetic tirade against the DR and saying it was all the work of drug gangs and of the Dominican government and the Dominican people ..I hope people can see JimH for what he is ...just an anti DR basher
From: Dominican Republic, las terrenas
...and they used her credit card....THEY MUST NOT ONLY BE PURE EVIL BUT F.....G STUPID.
i believe the victims daughter was in the house at the time....they would of sold her for body organs probably,.............may they burn in hell.
Written by: Yucahu, 19 Aug 2011 11:31 AM
From: United States, Miami
I wish I was the cop doing the interrogations. I would beat the crap outta these people. I seriously would. I would hurt them so bad they would beg to die. I would go midevil on they behinds.
From: United States
Ricardolito,
What I said is below.
And no matter if this was drugs or ONLY a kidnapping it is indicative of the DR being a failed state.
Now I will ‘be happy’ if the people who orchestrated this horrific slaughter go to ‘real’ jail for the rest of their life. Time will tell.
-----------------------------------------------------
Welcome to Mexico with a different accent.
This is shameful, why can't the actual people who caused this go to jail.
Because the DR is a failed state.
Written by: Chasbo, 19 Aug 2011 11:47 AM
From: United States
Maybe Senor Pena, jeffe of the DEA, who yesterday DECLARED! "Our Meeting is Proof That "The DR Is Safe"! will take a trip to the morgue to check this out
To think he is the head of the US DEA!?!
$ 16,000 RD to decapitate someone?!
From: United States
I am totally dumbfounded. Crismeri and Erika Guerrero, who are these two women? What are their backgrounds and what evil would lead and provoke them or anyone to commit such a cold blooded, horrendous crime? I don't believe it was only and simply greed. It has to be something much deeper then that and for this reason, we need to gain greater insight to determine the motives behind the murder. It might just maybe help prevent similar acts from ever happening again.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
william there is a long history of kidnapping in Higuey and at present Higuey is undergoing quite a change with many people there profiting from the rapid development of Punta Cana and Bavaro which had no townships to start with The desire for quick money leads to killings in the DR very often
Written by: riosm, 19 Aug 2011 12:27 PM
From: United States
One can only imagine how the victim's money was earned.
For the love of money......money the root of all evil.
The idea of an innocent little girl will never have the chance to know her mother, as always the children always pay.
I say......give them both the death penalty......to rid them of their evil spirits.
Written by: Kaliman, 19 Aug 2011 12:43 PM
From: United States, California
@ gmiller261. No F'cking kidding! I knew it! The motive had to revolve around drugs, money or sex tapes. However, I am not convinced at all. Why did they not steal the money? Why so much hatred against this woman? That's what I don't get. This is a horrible crime, a HATE CRIME and a CRIME based on GREED? There is something else hidden, other than money. Hummm??? She appears to be a beautiful woman, so perhaps a history of jealousy persued her.
Written by: Juango, 19 Aug 2011 1:02 PM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
I don't believe the sister's story. The real story may never be known.....Don't think for one minute that Wilma was that stupid to kneel and be bound by these BOZOS. I would venture to say Crismeri, never held $16K pesos in her hand in her entire life ! If she did have $16K, she would have gone to the salon, buy a new cel, new perfume or maybe paid down on her "fiao" debt (highly doubtful). This story stinks. Who is so ignorant to think that there is no way to ID a headless corspe? I tell you this story stinks ! gmiller you are spot on, a failed state indeed.
Written by: ings0389, 19 Aug 2011 1:15 PM
From: United States
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Written by: ElChico, 19 Aug 2011 2:15 PM
From: United States
Wow this is some ish out of a movie plot...
Written by: ings0389, 19 Aug 2011 2:41 PM
From: United States
There is no death penalty sentence in the Dominican Republic. Theyll be out in no time anyways. Didnt you see the story of the school principals that murdered the teacher? They should be imprisoned, but they arent.
Written by: yovanny, 19 Aug 2011 2:42 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I can't believe this is the land I came from.....
Written by: Perez, 19 Aug 2011 2:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Insane! Trust no one!.
Written by: frank, 19 Aug 2011 2:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Caberete, Norway, USA
I'll repeat what i said, the DR is safe.
Many people on this forum are obviously well read, intelligent, well traveled. Still, its perplexing to me how anyone living and working in this country can pick and choose isolated horror stories and then apply it to everything.
I work on the beach in Cabarete, i get to meet a lot of Missionary and Peace Corps workers on the weekends. They're just kids--right out of college. They work and live in the most isolated, desolate, poorest of poor communities throughout the country. i find myself absolutely shocked, amazed, baffled, and pleasantly surprised by how many of them tell me how wonderful and kind dominicans and Haitians are in these unbelievably poorest of poor communities and shanty towns. i mean, it really takes me aback about how just amazingly generous people are in these poor communities. i would think these places would be crime ridden, infested. But it's not the case. not remotely. They're safe. Its crazy but true: DR is safe.
Written by: frank, 19 Aug 2011 2:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Caberete, Norway, USA
These kind of kidnapping crimes go on in Brazil, Argentina, Columbia, Chile, Japan, Thailand, etc. I'm not sure its fair to say this is an example of a failed state; more like what Ricordo said. "It's an example of a "Flawed" state.""
Why would someone's opinion mean any less or more just because they're writing from Haiti, USA, Europe, etc.?
Dominican rep. is relatively safe despite the horror stories we read every day in the newspapers. in fact, for 10 million people on just two-thirds of an island, i would call it "very safe." Crime and murder is almost exclusively by "Association" and not "Random" like many people are led to believe.
The DR is a great, beautiful country with fantastic warm and friendly people. and despite all the horror stories people regal each other with, these are relatively isolated incidents taking place among people in specific circles.
I work on the north coast, surrounded by...
Written by: frank, 19 Aug 2011 2:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Caberete, Norway, USA
....people from all walks of life--tourists, ex-pats, and locals. And for the amount of people coming and going, i would hasten to say that its very safe. still, if you were to start running around with the wrong crowd, start delving into specific types of crime and other people related to specific types of crime, then as they say: "when you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas."
but for people whom are just doing the normal daily grind--going to work every day, keeping their noses clean, and participating in everyday normal life, work, & family, almost nothing befalls on them like what we read here in the newspapers. crime is almost always a culprit of "Association."
Again, i'm surrounded by people from all walks of life, and almost nothing is happening here on the scale of what you have going on in places like Mexico and Columbia, Brazil, and Venezuela.
From what i've read here, Ricordo seems very level-headed and well balanced and fair in his assessments.
From: United States
I agree with you Frank. The way you put it makes a lot of sense.Tienes mucha razon....................
Written by: Rainman, 19 Aug 2011 4:49 PM
From: United States
Any business person in DR knows better than to carry large quantities of cash on their person according to the article this lady had 80,000 usd it doesnt make any sense.
From: Iran, DirectorioDominicano.com
Survival of the fittest? Just a very sad story all around.
From: United States
Another sad, senseless killing. smh
From: Dominican Republic, las terrenas
how this lady came to earn her money is nobody's business, whether she was a dancer ,waitress,or whatever, nobody deserves that, its another case of generosity being seen as weakness, there is a feeling of disgust for the perpetrators of this heinous act,that makes me feel sick.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE DAUGHTER OF THIS CRIME,,anybody want to set up a facebook account for donations....I WOULD BUT DONT HAVE THE COMPUTER SAVY.
Written by: riosm, 20 Aug 2011 10:16 AM
From: United States
Your right it is nobody's business....life is full of choices and free will one makes on his/her own.
Reality is how one makes a living always affects those lives around them in a positive or negative way and in this case her innocent Daughter.
I'm reminded of that old saying "You play you pay" only this time she paid with her life which will affect her Daughter for the rest of her life.
They say children always want imitate to be like their parents...sadly in his case God I hope not.
Excuse me for asking, but nobody is asking.....where is the father of this precious child ? Or did I miss something.
Written by: matador, 20 Aug 2011 10:27 AM
From: United States, www.brugal-ron.com/home.php
Bunch of Animales, whats wrong with our People DR is Becoming a Littler Muslim country, The horrofied killing of an beautiful woman for 16,000 pesos,,, God please come soon.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
what a bunch of savages this the people involed in this should be hang with there balls cut off, and the women who order the hit should be stoned to death , animals
From: United States
sounds like they have seen the Mexicans at work. . Death sentance is well deserved.
Written by: danny00, 20 Aug 2011 2:23 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
few years back two young boys killed a 18y girl for her cell phone.
they sold this phone for $500 pesos, she was going to school to become a doctor as her father is also one. she was killed in santo domingo i think inside or outside one of the big malls.
the boys got the 30years in jail and this beautiful young intelligent person lost her life for around $12us...
man thats really a sad story.
one young dominican girl that would have mane a difference, and helped her people. the education is missing and blame the government for this or at least in part we need to place the bl;ame on them.
Written by: danny00, 20 Aug 2011 2:30 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
So where is the apology from JimH for misleading everyone with his pathetic tirade against the DR and saying it was all the work of drug gangs and of the Dominican government and the Dominican people ..I hope people can see JimH for what he is ...just an anti DR basher
mr. ricky why worry what anyone said? ITS WHAT U SAY MANY TIMES THAT IS REAL CRAP TO PROTECT THE DR GOVERNMENT. WHY?
U HAVE A HAND IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT EACH DAY U MAKE EXCUSES FOR THEM?
SO IN ONE CASE HE WAS WRONG BUT LETS GO TO THE 1,000 OF CASES WHERE HE IS 100% CORRECT FELLOW.
Written by: danny00, 20 Aug 2011 2:32 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
guess if left up to mr. rick their are no drug gangs in the dr.? please i laugh enough dont give me more to laugh about mr rick?
the dr is at the bottom of the food chain now and u cry mercy for the government boys...
Written by: ings0389, 24 Aug 2011 9:06 PM
From: United States
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Written by: ings0389, 24 Aug 2011 9:11 PM
From: United States
Terrible news
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From: United States
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But grizzly?
Seriously?
While I don't wish it on anyone you have to think that maybe this was a victory for social Darwinism.
Now it appears the poor womans husband is very rich and this is a kidnapping by two women from Higuey wanting quick money .
So where is the apology from JimH for misleading everyone with his pathetic tirade against the DR and saying it was all the work of drug gangs and of the Dominican government and the Dominican people ..I hope people can see JimH for what he is ...just an anti DR basher
i believe the victims daughter was in the house at the time....they would of sold her for body organs probably,.............may they burn in hell.
Ricardolito,
What I said is below.
And no matter if this was drugs or ONLY a kidnapping it is indicative of the DR being a failed state.
Now I will ‘be happy’ if the people who orchestrated this horrific slaughter go to ‘real’ jail for the rest of their life. Time will tell.
-----------------------------------------------------
Welcome to Mexico with a different accent.
This is shameful, why can't the actual people who caused this go to jail.
Because the DR is a failed state.
To think he is the head of the US DEA!?!
$ 16,000 RD to decapitate someone?!
For the love of money......money the root of all evil.
The idea of an innocent little girl will never have the chance to know her mother, as always the children always pay.
I say......give them both the death penalty......to rid them of their evil spirits.
Many people on this forum are obviously well read, intelligent, well traveled. Still, its perplexing to me how anyone living and working in this country can pick and choose isolated horror stories and then apply it to everything.
I work on the beach in Cabarete, i get to meet a lot of Missionary and Peace Corps workers on the weekends. They're just kids--right out of college. They work and live in the most isolated, desolate, poorest of poor communities throughout the country. i find myself absolutely shocked, amazed, baffled, and pleasantly surprised by how many of them tell me how wonderful and kind dominicans and Haitians are in these unbelievably poorest of poor communities and shanty towns. i mean, it really takes me aback about how just amazingly generous people are in these poor communities. i would think these places would be crime ridden, infested. But it's not the case. not remotely. They're safe. Its crazy but true: DR is safe.
Why would someone's opinion mean any less or more just because they're writing from Haiti, USA, Europe, etc.?
Dominican rep. is relatively safe despite the horror stories we read every day in the newspapers. in fact, for 10 million people on just two-thirds of an island, i would call it "very safe." Crime and murder is almost exclusively by "Association" and not "Random" like many people are led to believe.
The DR is a great, beautiful country with fantastic warm and friendly people. and despite all the horror stories people regal each other with, these are relatively isolated incidents taking place among people in specific circles.
I work on the north coast, surrounded by...
but for people whom are just doing the normal daily grind--going to work every day, keeping their noses clean, and participating in everyday normal life, work, & family, almost nothing befalls on them like what we read here in the newspapers. crime is almost always a culprit of "Association."
Again, i'm surrounded by people from all walks of life, and almost nothing is happening here on the scale of what you have going on in places like Mexico and Columbia, Brazil, and Venezuela.
From what i've read here, Ricordo seems very level-headed and well balanced and fair in his assessments.
Survival of the fittest? Just a very sad story all around.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE DAUGHTER OF THIS CRIME,,anybody want to set up a facebook account for donations....I WOULD BUT DONT HAVE THE COMPUTER SAVY.
Reality is how one makes a living always affects those lives around them in a positive or negative way and in this case her innocent Daughter.
I'm reminded of that old saying "You play you pay" only this time she paid with her life which will affect her Daughter for the rest of her life.
They say children always want imitate to be like their parents...sadly in his case God I hope not.
Excuse me for asking, but nobody is asking.....where is the father of this precious child ? Or did I miss something.
they sold this phone for $500 pesos, she was going to school to become a doctor as her father is also one. she was killed in santo domingo i think inside or outside one of the big malls.
the boys got the 30years in jail and this beautiful young intelligent person lost her life for around $12us...
man thats really a sad story.
one young dominican girl that would have mane a difference, and helped her people. the education is missing and blame the government for this or at least in part we need to place the bl;ame on them.
mr. ricky why worry what anyone said? ITS WHAT U SAY MANY TIMES THAT IS REAL CRAP TO PROTECT THE DR GOVERNMENT. WHY?
U HAVE A HAND IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT EACH DAY U MAKE EXCUSES FOR THEM?
SO IN ONE CASE HE WAS WRONG BUT LETS GO TO THE 1,000 OF CASES WHERE HE IS 100% CORRECT FELLOW.
the dr is at the bottom of the food chain now and u cry mercy for the government boys...