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Santo Domingo. – Immigration director Jose Taveras yesterday admitted that the lack of adequate controls at the border is behind the massive presence of Haitians in the country, a problem he blames on “too many responsibilities.”

He said the agency doesn’t have operational capacity to go out and detain one million Haitians, most of which are in the streets.

Taveras affirmed that while criticism is directed only to the authorities, there’s a labor market based on irregular immigrants manpower, and in his view is the productive society is to blame.

The official affirmed that that sector is most to blame, because it’s the one that’s generating migration. “In other words, we here should all review ourselves.”

Taveras added that Immigration doesn’t have jurisdiction to deal with the crimes committed by immigrants and foreigners.

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Written by: RobertoJose, 15 Sep 2011 9:49 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Create a division that will visit these employers that hire illegals and fine them to death. Lots of jobs out there.
Written by: xwill7, 15 Sep 2011 10:46 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Start sending bus loads back
Written by: guillermone, 15 Sep 2011 11:16 AM
From: United States
This just clearly shows the apathetic attitudes of the DR gov't officials that for years neglected to confront and handle a catastrophe in the making. For years they looked the other way, ignored and let the problem get out of control to the point they now admit to be unable to stop it.
Written by: guillermone, 15 Sep 2011 11:20 AM
From: United States
"The official affirmed that that sector is most to blame, because it’s the one that’s generating migration. “In other words, we here should all review ourselves.”

Yes, wipe your hands clean and blame everybody else but yourself.............continue with the status quo and pass the buck on others.

Written by: danny00, 15 Sep 2011 11:25 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
same as the united states 12 million or more how the hell in the world can u get them all out?
its a little scary having so many people in any country. who are they? are they wanted for murder, rape or other major crimes in the country they came from? if they get involved in crime in the host country how the hell in the world can any police dept track them down?
no finger prints on file no offical i.d. from the host country and the list goes on and on. not a good thing for any country.
i travel to other countries when i get there they ask me where are iam saying at, now long will i be in the country? and why am i in the country? they have this right its their country.
Written by: danny00, 15 Sep 2011 11:31 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
for years i saw them building homes, cutting sugar cane, they where not working for haitians in the dr they where working for dominicans?

in the most part it the police taking payoffs, {how hard was it to spot a haitian in the dr?] dominicans giving them jobs {f*#k my own people i can pay less using them the haitians}
yes some might have in the night time had the chance to sneak across the border but not that many please. every one knew that goes going on but did nothing about it and now [blame the haitians/}
Written by: generoso, 15 Sep 2011 11:33 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya

Give the Haitians $50 dollars to return home, heavy fines on people that employ illegals, have periodic raids, ask for cooperation of transport companies, bus companies, truckers, to send them back, also private donations focused on repatriation chest.
Written by: danny00, 15 Sep 2011 11:35 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
think we should send them to bellmore long island and the windy city.
Written by: sweetbabyj, 15 Sep 2011 11:39 AM
From: United States
First off you have to recognise the problem an admit there is a very serious problem. All it takes is a Government notice that states when find you working in the country we will confiscate all your assets, belongings and place you on a truck back to the border. Post a series of telephone numbers where the Dominicans can call to report them and actually follow the leads. Start with the large employers first to free up the jobs and any company that uses them is fined $1,000 US per employee. This can be done with the drug dealers where the country can have a hot line that rewards the information leading to the arrest and conviction.
Written by: danny00, 15 Sep 2011 11:45 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
in the florida keys we have a lot of people from mexico and many haitians.
i had a chance to talk with some of the mexican guys they are young and seem really like hard working people. most are working in restaurants.
couple of these guys asked me if i can find a place for them to cash their check each week.
they are working for major restaurants the checks are made out to pay to cash. they the workers told me they had no s.s numbers.
man this upset me i have a big chunk of salary taken out each week for the government one big chunk is for medicare payments. these people pay nothing towards these funds. but they use the hospitals and other free services.their kids go to the public schools, most are getting food stamps and other social services while they work off the books.
now take this and times it by 12 million or more?
i work for my self but still have a corp. and business account and pay my share. not happy with the restaurants that hire them not happy at all.
Written by: WalterPolo, 15 Sep 2011 11:50 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
As the longest journey starts with one single step, start deportation within realistic parameters.

And accept the Yankees' proposal to help with the border.
Written by: danny00, 15 Sep 2011 12:02 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
local - 15 september 2011, 9:36 am text size: smaller bigger "we can't arrest one million haitians," immigration chief says
true comment by the chief.
but why dont u start to do the job at the border that u are payed for doing?
at least this will if u do your job help stop any more masses from coming into the country., once this happens then u can direct your time and resources towards the hiaitans that are in the dr.
when the dam has a leak u 1st fix the leak.


Written by: LAVERITE, 15 Sep 2011 1:31 PM
From: Haiti
Why don't you stop kidding yourselves. The government official said that they can't arrest 1 million haitians, I say you can't do without the haitians or else the DR crumbles and you know it.
LAVERITE.-
Written by: JPDTrinity, 15 Sep 2011 2:18 PM
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
That means he's been paid off by the big boys corporations to stay quiet and do nothing.

DR is darkly DOOOOMED!!!
Written by: lovingit, 15 Sep 2011 2:29 PM
From: United States, Delaware
Industries and formal jobs are one thing, but there are many informal jobs Haitians do for $50 for what a Dominican will do for no less than $250. the problem is beyond that, and as long as this continues, Haitians will continue to cross the border.

@Danny,

Good to see your comments are not "totally off" this time, but there are a couple things that you are off on. 1st, other than kids going to public schools, illegals are not able to go on welfare and other free services as you mentioned. Hospitals in the US, due to medical ethics, cannot deny services to anyone. They do bill illegals for serivces, now whether they could or are able to pay is another question.

One more note, you make it sounds like 12 million illegals in the US is so much worse than the 1MM+ in DR. You are DEAD WRONG on this one. the 12MM represent just 3.8% of the US population, while in the DR 1MM represnets over 10% of the population... very different and much worse on the DR side.
Written by: hernandez5482, 15 Sep 2011 3:16 PM
From: United States
I get tired of commenting on the same issue all the time. We all know what’s going on and we all know what the best solution for this matter is. The authorities know what has to be done, but they won’t do it. I understand that the number of illegal migrants in DR is overwhelming, but start by securing the border and then gradually start repatriating anyone who is in the country illegally. In a matter of 2 or 3 years I am sure the issue can be taken care off. It is time for Dominican businesses and farms to stop hiring illegal migrants and hire nationals to do the work. Anyone who disobeys the rules gets fined or sanctioned. What about the Dominican working men, who is looking out for them. Let the international community assist the Haitian people get back on their feet; we don’t have the means to do this. The Dominican government has the moral obligation to provide jobs to the people of the Dominican Republic first, people of other nationalities are taking all the jobs.
Written by: CarlosFranco, 15 Sep 2011 3:24 PM
From: United States, Brooklyn

Immigrations can't but the army can! Also punish Dominicans who employ haitians and you will see how they'll leave on their own.


Written by: LAVERITE, 15 Sep 2011 4:29 PM
From: Haiti
You are still not making sense. Why don't you get hold of yourselves and face the problem as it is. DR has been using Haitians for over 100 years and the economy, the social structures and your mentality is so interwine with their presence plus the fact that they represent a goldmine for the development of the country that it is now too late to do without them. That business of closing the border,raising a wall, stop hiring them and other non-realistic means is just not going to happen.As far as I am concern, as long as you can keep exploiting them, and knowing your mentality, the situation will never change and you'll just have to live with that reality THAT YOU HAVE CREATED.
LAVERITE
Written by: danny00, 15 Sep 2011 4:57 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
One more note, you make it sounds like 12 million illegals in the US is no much worse than the 1MM+ in DR. You are DEAD WRONG on this one. the 12MM represent just 3.8% of the US population, while in the DR 1MM represnets over 10% of the population... very different and much worse on the DR side.
THE COMMENT WAS NOT ABOUT THE AMOUNT IN EITHER COUNTRY, YES YOUR VERY CORRECT THOUGH IN WHAT YOUR SAYING, ONE MILLION OR NEAR THAT AMOUNT IN THE DR OF HAITIANS IS A DIASTER FOR THE DR.
THEY NEED TO GET A VISA AND DO IT THE CORRECT WAY, ALSO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DR NEEDS TO HAVE FULL CONTROL OF THE AMOUNT OF HAITIANS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR WORK IN THE DR.[IF THEY ARE NEEDED IF FACT}
I DONT SEE ANY THING WRONG IF ITS DONE THIS WAY?
Written by: hellborn25, 15 Sep 2011 4:59 PM
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
If you close the border or build wall like west germany ,there are many options , it all starts by taking that first step.
Written by: danny00, 15 Sep 2011 5:03 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
You are still not making sense. Why don't you get hold of yourselves and face the problem as it is. DR has been using Haitians for over 100 years and the economy, the social structures and

YES THE 100 YEARS BUT NOW IN THESE HARD TIMES ONE MILLION IS WAY TOO MUCH.
AM NOT AGAINST ANY ONE WHO IS HONEST AND IS TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILYS AND THEIR SELF., BUT U ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THEIR ARE MLLIONS OF DOMINICANS THAT ARE OUT OF WORK AT THE SAME TIME SOME NOT MORE BETTER OFF THEN THE POOR HAITIANS, ITS A HUGH PROBLEM, I DONT HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR THIS PROBLEM. SO MANY YOUNG GIRLS I KNOW THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKING 4 EVER FOR WORK AND FIND NOTHING.
Written by: LAVERITE, 15 Sep 2011 5:11 PM
From: Haiti
I wholeheartedly agree with you dannyoo but this greedy world being what it is, it's who will take most advantage of the other and the Haitians are hired by no one else but your own people. So that's where the changes if any must start.
LAVERITE
Written by: watcher48, 15 Sep 2011 5:16 PM
From: United States, Omnipresence
"We can't arrest one million Haitians"....No but consider Hitler's "final solution".....sorry, bad joke.
Written by: danny00, 15 Sep 2011 5:16 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
if fact many dominicans as haitians try and escape to other couniries to try and make that living, its sad things need to be way this way but the are.
going to strange lands, not knowing what they face away from family and friends,
i thank god every day my family was able to get a visa for all of us {my family}
and come the correct way, not all are so lucky if u can call it luck.

wish the best for all sides in this matter
god-bless all from dominican fellow who cares .
Written by: Atabey, 15 Sep 2011 5:28 PM
From: United States, NYC
Haiti police battle anti-UN protesters

Haitian protesters, one brandishing a placard reading "Brazil plus Chile equals occupation". Some Haitians regard the UN peacekeepers as an occupying force

Police in Haiti have used tear gas to disperse hundreds of protesters demanding the withdrawal of UN peace-keeping troops from the country.
BBC

I have a suggestion. Why not move the foreign troops in Haiti to man the border between the DR and Haiti? Entrust them with managing the legal and illegal flows. They would make it far more difficult for illegal transit than anything we have to date. The Haitian people would not have to see these troops unless they have legal right to do so, crossing the border, or in cases they are illegally trying to gain entrance into DR, arrested by the authorities and fingerprinted with photo identification.

A Win- Win-Win situation for all. Martelly can set up his all-Haitian force and the foreign troops will be out of sight for most Haitians.
Written by: lsantiago77, 15 Sep 2011 9:25 PM
From: United States
all very good ideas from u guys, unfortunately the cops and patrol guys in the border that get paid no more than prob 6 or 7,000 pesos a month have no other choice but to take bribes, DR can build the a wall bigger than the great wall in china, but it still wont be enough until it the gov fixes it seilf and anybody in law enforcement is paid generously, http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GCR_Report_2011-12.pdf this report says DR law enforcement ranks 142 out of 142, last place, even ranks behind filthy corrupt countries like most in africa, and thats because cops in DR only get paid like 6 or 7 thousand peso if they are lucky, so the immigration problem wont be fixed until the corruption in gov stops and people are paid what they deserve.
Written by: LAVERITE, 15 Sep 2011 9:38 PM
From: Haiti
You are so right santiago and to your comments i'll add that the border according to people who know is an other country that neither the DR nor the Haitians can control as they are so well organized for decades on the corruption and other ILLEGAL activites that take place there. So I think that all those people who are making all kinds of irrealistic suggestions learn more about what's going on there and they'll realize that nothing is going to change and that situation is there to remain for ever. Sorry to say so, but that's the harsh reality.
LAVERITE
Written by: Atabey, 15 Sep 2011 10:00 PM
From: United States, NYC
"So I think that all those people who are making all kinds of irrealistic suggestions learn more about what's going on there and they'll realize that nothing is going to change and that situation is there to remain for ever. Sorry to say so, but that's the harsh reality."

I don't know about it being "irrealistic" or unrealistic to think that the course of action or better inaction on the part of governments is not without remedy. All it would take is for serious attention and the required resources. Now do I expect realistically that these sets of conditions will magically happen soon? No. But it is not beyond reasonable doubt that it might within this decade. All it would take is for the situation in Haiti to once again degenerate into the abyss; we see signs of those developments as we write back and forth. People are beginning to act against the slow movement towards modernity and reconstruction. The political and economic elite continue their dance while the poor suffer
Written by: Atabey, 15 Sep 2011 10:03 PM
From: United States, NYC
If the end of the year elections in Haiti prove more gridlock is in store for the reminder of Martelly's reign, you can reasonably expect a huge social upheaval in next door Haiti. And then what? Care to estimate how many will try to escape that growing inferno?

DR has no choice but to take its leadership to task against its poor management of the illegal population. Unless it wants to become Haiti 2.0, it better act soon.
Written by: ateo2010 This user is banned, 16 Sep 2011 1:49 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Owning Noobs
Not in one day, but I'm sure in a year or two then yes!
Written by: BernardJeanPierre, 16 Sep 2011 6:13 PM
From: United States
Just as Guillermone said, the Government(s) have sat back enjoying the financial benefits of allowing this problem to grow and grow and now all of a sudden they want to try to be all border 'conscious'. No, no, no...as they say in mi pais, you made your bed, now lay in it. Until the Government can stop being corrupted by its insatiable desire to make a quick buck with its big business croonies (like the Vicini's) Haitians will continue to come and fill the need for cheap labor. Simple as that. Its all hypocrisy, they sell patria and deny Dominicans of Haitian descent their rights on one hand, but on the other they claim to be in support of their Country and serving the common people, sin verguenzas. Until corruption on a PERSONAL level is decreased, there is no end in sight.
Written by: LAVERITE, 17 Sep 2011 9:45 AM
From: Haiti
Bernard, you said it all and if those people hang on their unrealistic positions, they are kidding themselves from here to eternity.
LAVERITE
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