Then the same thing that happaned in haiti will happen to us... PRIEST SHUT THE HELL UP!

In an ideal world we would not need guns, in an ideal world we would not
religion or the falsehood of an all powerful, all seeing super being.
We do not live in an ideal world PADRE.

So religious priest in DR have managed to get into the classroom and teach creationism, immigration department chose who gets deported, JCE plus many other departments and the next target is the army.

When do we say enough is enough?

When do we make the separation of church and state law in DR become something of value?

I'm sure he's talking about an ideal world. In the US, military are not permitted to carry weapons outside of a mission, on or off base. Paul Lennon gave up on that vision, by the way (Imagine) when he quit smoking drugs.

I'll go out on a limb here and go against what the majority would say.
I think it would be tremendously beneficial to all, if firearms were not all over the place!
Guns are made for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill. So it stands to reason that the less guns, the less killings.
The proliferation of guns, have made DR a heaven for criminals and for the military to facilitate abuse and exploitation on the citizenry. The rampant delinquency and flagrant violation of our rights afflicting us today, will lead us to lose big time! in terms of revenue and human lives!

while I agree with you in parts and definitely in the principle , Ron Evans and I enjoy reading your postings , the situation here is such that the police and the military simply have to carry guns as many people think they are like game animals .
At present in the city and in the east and for all I know in other parts , there is a blitz on guns and cars are stopped and searched by military with guns .I think if they did not have guns the car drivers would either not stop or would simply tell them to go away .
Also at present there is a huge amount of delinquency and the delinquents have guns and are quite prepared to use them so I think the police and miltary just have to have at least the same fire power .Knives are also a huge problem here and the delinquents with them use them so again the police
I have changed my mind here in the past year and I think the only way to deal with the delinquent thugs and murderers is to shoot them , because if they are not shot , they will shoot

Ricardolito, I do agree that in a savage, lawless land, the police and those legally authorized, must carry guns.
I think those caught with unlicensed guns, however, should be harshly prosecuted to the full extend of the law!
Unfortunately this isn't the case and won't be for a long time to come.
The reason being that the military can, and will let go, anyone who can present a suitable
bribe. Never mind that this weapon will be used to commit more crimes! If the police followed the law and confiscated all illegal guns, Guaranteed, crime would go way down.

Let the choir boys carry the guns. They need protection from the clergy.

in the old wild-west days. all had to have guns to protect them selfs.
their was no police force or military to help them, nor was their cell phones to call as today 911 for help.
guns kill people yes i hear what many are saying about the bad boys in town now, but guns are the answer to this problem?.
what the dr needs is a real police force one that the people can trust and believe in to protect them. not like the police force we have today in the dr. this one "brings its own crime wave to its citizens".
dont know if this will ever happen hope it does so honest folks can live in peace and not in fear {with real men as police they should be the only ones to carry guns}

as i said for the last 4 years it all comes down to education.
and having people in office in the government that do what they should do. service the people not them selfs.
making jobs for people would also help. young guys not working have lots of time on their hands and find ways to get into trouble.

The military should carry a rosary and use harsh language. That should teach those street thugs.

Written by: RonEvane,
"Guns are made for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill. "

They are?
Hmmmmmmmm

So I guess when I go Skeet shooting I am killing?
When I go to the range I am Killing?

Funny how the anti-gun fascists know so little about the guns they hate!

The military should carry a rosary and use harsh language. That should teach those street thugs.

I LIKE THIS COMMENT IT BROUGHT A SMILE TO MY FACE.
GOOD COMMENT AND A GOOD JOKE.

in the old days in brooklyn new york,
the wise ones would always say this
"he who runs away will live to fight other day"

i respect most of your postings. but
skeet shooting if they the guns where used only for this then i would have no problem with them.

The liberal influence of the church has dozens of countries with uncontrolled birth rate such as Haiti i, Mexico,Guatemala, Honduras where children and born to poor families unable to properly care for them. The same church refuses to condone the death penalty even for a mass murder who rape, tortured and killed children yet this is the same church who has a history of ordering the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Europe during the middle ages only 20 years ago removed a church decree that Muslims must be put to death. The US military is not allowed to carry weapons outside the base because we have a strong police force to protect the population. To send unarmed military to protect the population is ludacris as is not having the death penalty for murders. If your county did not have a Judicial system that could not be influenced by bribes and a Police force with integrity you would not need the military on the streets

priest believes that the military should not carry weapons? , they should use a differnt mechanism . what hes tryeng to say is that maybey they should use more then weapons to fight crimes , like they should be using more undecover guys or informants or plainclothes guys on patrol . Its to bad the dominican republic does not operated that way , its just the military walking with semiautomatic weapons killing the middle man and accomplishing nothing, and still operating like a third world country .

The funniest part is those military guys are Haitians or Dominicans?

I cannot really tell, oh that's right!!

It's all the same S***T

Welcone to HISPANIOLA.

@ AnthonyC.

Quote: " So I guess when I go skeet shooting, I am killing? When I go to the range,I am killing?

No, you're not killing, yet.... You're sharpening your skills to do just that.
I didn't say to ban guns totally. If you read my post entirely, you'll see that what I said and what makes all the sense in the world, is to keep firearms where they belong, with the police and others with a permit to carry them.
If guns were not so easily available, you and I would have a lesser chance of being held up, or worse, killed by criminals and the criminals in the military.
The less firearms in the general population, the lesser crimes committed against the citizenry.
Me entiendes?

Quote by AnthonyC.

"funny how the anti-gun fascists know so little about the guns they hate!"

I don't need to explain myself to anyone, but being a Viet Nam vet should tell you something about how much I know about guns.

Do you think those who obtain guns illegaly, do so for skeet shooting or target practice!?

Written by: RonEvane,

"I don't need to explain myself to anyone, but being a Viet Nam vet should tell you something about how much I know about guns."

It does. It means you probably know next to nothing about guns.

Alright, Mr. "C", I stand corrected. This argument about guns, will take us nowhere, as everyone has a different take on this critical issue.
The important part is that guns, in the hands of educated, responsible people, is a good thing. in the hands of ignorant, scofflaws, obviously not.
At the very root of this crime surge, are many factors. One: that the DR mentality calls for everyone to pack heat, "por si las moscas". Two: Many "graduates" of American prisons come back to wreck havoc on us. They learned that "taking" is easier than "earning". Three: High unemployment compel people to rob and kill to survive. Four: The military chooses to be deaf and blind to the situation.Petty crime is irrelevant. After all, they're the major players in the looting of our nation!
In conclusion, the absence of moral virtues and schooling (children learn from adults and environment), will spawn a future criminal. They'll do their deeds, regardless.Guns just makes it easier to pull "jobs".

One thing is for sure, nobody should be allowed to even see a gun, let alone carry one if they don't even understand proper gun handling and safety! Running down the street with the barrel pointed toward people is just STUPID. I've seen so many Police, Guardias y Guachimanes just standing around with their guns pointed in the direction of traffic, people and houses thats is mind blowing. Like seriously, is there ANY training before they get guns?? That has to change immediately. It would almost seen that criminals handled their guns better than the Police por dios!

An armed populace is a polite populace.

All one has to do is look at the examples of Australia and Haiti to see how violent crime goes up when the populace is disarmed.

The there is the whole "I won't trust a government who doesn't trust me" thingy.

@JPDTrinity,
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!" The funniest part is those military guys are Haitians or Dominicans? I cannot really tell, oh that's right!! It's all the same S***T Welcone to HISPANIOLA

Wake Up N-i-g-er! that is why you make us look like fool to the outside world. The Army is black, the Amet is black, the police is black. I have LF skill color, white americans call me black.

Back to the post " They need those military on the streets at night, when the police is sleeping

Written by: Regan, 15 Sep 2011 5:10 PM
In the US, military are not permitted to carry weapons outside of a mission, on or off base.

Agreed. If they are just walking down the street on the way home or shopping, they should not be armed. The weapon should never have left the base.

Written by: Ricardolito, 15 Sep 2011 7:38 PM
the situation here is such that the police and the military simply have to carry guns as many people think they are like game animals .
At present in the city and in the east and for all I know in other parts , there is a blitz on guns and cars are stopped and searched by military with guns .I think if they did not have guns the car drivers would either not stop or would simply tell them to go away .

Written by: BernardJeanPierre, 16 Sep 2011 6:05 PM
From: United States
One thing is for sure, nobody should be allowed to even see a gun, let alone carry one if they don't even understand proper gun handling and safety! Running down the street with the barrel pointed toward people is just STUPID. I've seen so many Police, Guardias y Guachimanes just standing around with their guns pointed in the direction of traffic, people and houses thats is mind blowing. Like seriously, is there ANY training before they get guns?? That has to change immediately. It would almost seen that criminals handled their guns better than the Police por dios!

Next best post.

Written by: RBenito, 17 Sep 2011 9:04 PM
Back to the post " They need those military on the streets at night, when the police is sleeping

I think that this references the need for a professional police force and training, then they would not need the military for policing the streets.

This would be an exception! These military have been assigned a mission, therefore they should be armed. They are there to backup the Police, Same would go for those that have been assigned to patrols with the police. Military should never be on patrol without the police.


Written by: danny00, 16 Sep 2011 10:33 AM
what the dr needs is a real police force one that the people can trust and believe in to protect them. not like the police force we have today in the dr. this one "brings its own crime wave to its citizens".
dont know if this will ever happen hope it does so honest folks can live in peace and not in fear {with real men as police they should be the only ones to carry guns}

Best post on the board so far.

sorry got out of sequence due to 1000 char limit.

@ Ronevane

You're wise papa !