Santo Domingo.- The thugs have been forced to retreat and leave the inhabitants of the once dangerous north zone barrio of Loma del Chivo at peace, after the “Palavé method” of punishment was imposed by Police colonel Elías Marte Palavé.
The punishment consists of hanging a cardboard sign on the alleged or real thieves identifying where they come from and the stolen object they were caught with. They are then paraded though the barrio’s narrow streets so the community sees who they are, before being hauled away for booking.
A large cardboard sign which read “I come from Gualey to snatch chains in the 27 de Febrero” was placed on one alleged thief caught by police when he was mugging a woman of the sector last week.
The peculiar manner of public punishment has met with support and rejection; some say it violates human rights, but most of the community dwellers agree with the “Palavé method” to halt the rampant muggings in those barrios.
Community organizations announced a vigil Thursday to support the officer rumors that he’ll be transferred.
The colonel, interviewed by newspaper El Caribe, affirmed that only he only carries out his duty for the community. “I am only doing my job so that people feel safe. Nobody will be able to point to acts of corruption on me of that I take money from the criminals.”
From: United States
some say it violates human rights. i say that the muggers forfeit their rights to be treated in a civil fashion when they inflict misery on innocent people. these guys should be made to wear the signs every day for a month at a time.
From: United States
Those that say it violates human rights are the same ones that allow these knucklesheads to roam around and violate the rights of others to live in peace. He should be blind folded and the neighbors allowed to beat his ass.
Written by: cejay, 29 Sep 2011 9:34 AM
From: United States, A beautiful Location
Great ideal I like it!!! Kind of like the Arizona prison warden who makes imates wear "pink" prison gear, pink socks and even pink underwear.
Written by: generoso, 29 Sep 2011 9:34 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Why not do like in ancient times and brand the prisoners in their foreheads with a "T" for thief? In latin it was an "F" for "fur". I don't agree with the measure, and find it repulsive and abominable.
Just like the sentencing a prisoner to death leaves no room for mistakes, I don't care about the guilty ones, but I do care care about the few innocent ones that will be mistakenly found guilty.
The muggers are religiously beaten to a pulp anyway, before and after the fact, if they are caught, and that plus the time they will spend in a hellish prison, is punishment enough.
Written by: xwill7, 29 Sep 2011 9:49 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Great
Written by: Perez, 29 Sep 2011 10:08 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Well done officer!
From: United States
General, like all other measures taken against criminal types, a degree of caution is required, so as not to violate people who are possibly innocent. however, a 20 year old thug who beats an old lady down, and steals the few pesos from her handbag, deserves no considerations, if caught red handed. the punishment should fit the crime, so there is no need for the enraged citizens to take his life. however, parading him along the Duarte with a sign around his neck seems quite fitting for the offense.
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
In the oooooooooooooooooold days, they'd leave them exposed publicly so people might spit in their faces and other nice treatments.
Then they'd tie them to a wheel, dismember, crucify or hang them...
It worked.
Written by: Chasbo, 29 Sep 2011 11:07 AM
From: United States
My hometown prison (Allentown PA, home of many plantains) puts the tough guys and trouble makers in Pampers (paper diapers)
Written by: hulls52, 29 Sep 2011 11:10 AM
From: United States
This is awsome - we should do that in the US - it may not stop the crime but it will allow people to know who the scumbags are so when they see them again maybe the neighborhood can kick there asses
Written by: Atabey, 29 Sep 2011 11:16 AM
From: United States, NYC
No tarring and feathering? Generoso, makes a valid and reasonable point. But these cases should be reserved for the worse of the worse, "la creme de la mierda" bunch with long criminal track records. I doubt many of these individuals don't have a "good service record" to be "proud" of.
Some tar and plumas de pollo would do these individuals justice and keep up with the traditions of yore.
From: United States
The simple act of letting the citizens see and identify the muggers or robbers allows more to come forward to with charges. When the criminals control the streets they think they are above the law. Go back to the old times when the nation was founded where they placed criminals in public stocks and chains in the square. Let them stay there outside in the sun or rain for a few days while allowing the citizens to talk with them. I do like the branding the Muslims do but with the way hats are prevalent they would leave the mark on the cheek
From: United States
Another way is to take them to chain them up outside of their mothers home or apartment to bring shame on the family. That hurts more than public humiliation the wrath of a mother tongue is like a whip across the back
Written by: DomRat, 29 Sep 2011 11:30 AM
From: Dominican Republic
I always thought the public stocks were and excellent form of punishment. If the party was deemed unfairyly punished they could offer food and water and some moral support and limited protection while if guilty could be heckeled and made fun of but most importantly identified by the public at large to know who amoungst them was a no good scroundrel.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
I love of this methods , have them wearing shirts that say I am a low life criminal and I contribute nothing to society , or better yet have them carry a sign that says I robbed a 80 year old pocketbook now I have to pay the price . These scumbags lost all rights when they desided to break the law and pursuit a life of crime.
Written by: zooma, 29 Sep 2011 11:50 AM
From: United States
Compromise !
Do it after they have been convicted, march them through the streets on the way to the jail.
Written by: generoso, 29 Sep 2011 11:57 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
When I was a kid, during Trujillo's last days, I witnessed a huge mob beating two young anti-Trujillo heroes with sticks, to a pulp in Avenida Mella, later they were thrown off the Ozama river bridge.
Some of the "paleros" were paid Trujillo calies, and these two patriots where killed for no reason other than passing out leaflets condemning the Trujillo regime. They were also accused by the loud shouts of the street mob of being criminals, thieves, and what not.
We must let our anger, and desire for justice cloud our thinking, and behave like animals. If we will like to progress to a more advanced society we must not revert to the brutal ways of the past, that is what justice is for. If we are going to revert to a brutal, lawless society, then all bets are off.
Written by: DomRat, 29 Sep 2011 11:59 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Some judges will let a lot of them go because perps. or family members threaten the victim if they testify against them in court. I know because a scumbag did several times telephone threats to my daughter after snatching her purse and getting caught. I advised her to testify which she did but many lack the conviction.
Written by: ateo2010 
, 29 Sep 2011 12:46 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Owning Noobs
hang this parasites !!
human rights? they aren't even human.
From: United States
zooma is correct.
First convict these thugs then do the walk of shame, because as much as I admire this I am still not convinced they'll spend any time in jail.
Written by: bernies, 29 Sep 2011 1:18 PM
From: United States, key west fl
Human rights watch here is this country is a joke, or do you Generoso can't remember that that same human right group signed a letter to help release Florian Felix from prisson on the fact of good conduct, that was only 2 years ago how can you explain that to the people that has been mudged and family killed by these scumbags?.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
It seems that we are between the devil and the deep blue sea here with an obvious need for the criminals to be publicly humiliated and punished but the need for innocent people to be protected ..I would have preferred the humiliation and the public punishment to be after the accused had been tried .
But if I was going to jump off the fence I would support public humiliation immediately ,but only by police officers with senior officer present ..well something has to be done very quickly because the delinquency just gets more and more obvious to all living here
Written by: martin, 29 Sep 2011 2:18 PM
From: United States, boston to S.P.M 23
jejejejejejejej good news i watch that shiit on NURIA the coronel doing the right tin
From: Dominican Republic
Absolutely AWESOME!
Finally someone in the PN with TESTICULAR FORTITUDE.
I like this guy...
PALAVE FOR PRESIDENTE LIGHT!
All: Noticed that Danny DoubleZero is silent! He may have taken his dose of double Prozac today.
From: United States, jackson heights ny
Whatever it takes to stop the criminals will be welcome.
Written by: danny00, 30 Sep 2011 11:54 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
Written by: richardalberto, 29 Sep 2011 9:31 AM
From: United States
Those that say it violates human rights are the same ones that allow these knucklesheads to roam around and violate the rights of others to live in peace. He should be blind folded and the neighbors allowed to beat his ass.
THANK U FOR THIS COMMENT AND MY 21Y OLD DUUGHTER ALSO THANKS U.
{SHE HAS BEEN ROBBED 3 TIMES IN THE LAST 2 YEARS COMING HOME AT NIGHT FROM SCHOOL} SHES STILL SHAKING MONTHS AFTER THE LAST TIME SHE WAS ROBBED.
From: Dominican Republic
Crap, he is awake!
Written by: curios1, 30 Sep 2011 6:52 PM
From: United States, right where im standin
you know theres realy nothing to say but GOOD JOB and ABOUT TIME. when up against crimminals what ever it takes to get the job done.
From: Dominican Republic
"The colonel, interviewed by newspaper El Caribe, affirmed that only he only carries out his duty for the community. “I am only doing my job so that people feel safe. Nobody will be able to point to acts of corruption on me of that I take money from the criminals.”
It's hard to get mad at a Dominican Colonel who's being too heavy handed in the defense of the citizens and.. sad as it may be, an un-corrupted (if true), Dominican police Colonel is damn hard to find. I hope it's true. The DR would be a much better place with more guys like this.
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Why not do like in ancient times and brand the prisoners in their foreheads with a "T" for thief? In latin it was an "F" for "fur". I don't agree with the measure, and find it repulsive and abominable.
Just like the sentencing a prisoner to death leaves no room for mistakes, I don't care about the guilty ones, but I do care care about the few innocent ones that will be mistakenly found guilty.
The muggers are religiously beaten to a pulp anyway, before and after the fact, if they are caught, and that plus the time they will spend in a hellish prison, is punishment enough.
Then they'd tie them to a wheel, dismember, crucify or hang them...
It worked.
Some tar and plumas de pollo would do these individuals justice and keep up with the traditions of yore.
Compromise !
Do it after they have been convicted, march them through the streets on the way to the jail.
When I was a kid, during Trujillo's last days, I witnessed a huge mob beating two young anti-Trujillo heroes with sticks, to a pulp in Avenida Mella, later they were thrown off the Ozama river bridge.
Some of the "paleros" were paid Trujillo calies, and these two patriots where killed for no reason other than passing out leaflets condemning the Trujillo regime. They were also accused by the loud shouts of the street mob of being criminals, thieves, and what not.
We must let our anger, and desire for justice cloud our thinking, and behave like animals. If we will like to progress to a more advanced society we must not revert to the brutal ways of the past, that is what justice is for. If we are going to revert to a brutal, lawless society, then all bets are off.
human rights? they aren't even human.
zooma is correct.
First convict these thugs then do the walk of shame, because as much as I admire this I am still not convinced they'll spend any time in jail.
But if I was going to jump off the fence I would support public humiliation immediately ,but only by police officers with senior officer present ..well something has to be done very quickly because the delinquency just gets more and more obvious to all living here
Finally someone in the PN with TESTICULAR FORTITUDE.
I like this guy...
PALAVE FOR PRESIDENTE LIGHT!
All: Noticed that Danny DoubleZero is silent! He may have taken his dose of double Prozac today.
From: United States
Those that say it violates human rights are the same ones that allow these knucklesheads to roam around and violate the rights of others to live in peace. He should be blind folded and the neighbors allowed to beat his ass.
THANK U FOR THIS COMMENT AND MY 21Y OLD DUUGHTER ALSO THANKS U.
{SHE HAS BEEN ROBBED 3 TIMES IN THE LAST 2 YEARS COMING HOME AT NIGHT FROM SCHOOL} SHES STILL SHAKING MONTHS AFTER THE LAST TIME SHE WAS ROBBED.
It's hard to get mad at a Dominican Colonel who's being too heavy handed in the defense of the citizens and.. sad as it may be, an un-corrupted (if true), Dominican police Colonel is damn hard to find. I hope it's true. The DR would be a much better place with more guys like this.