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Santo Domingo. - Dominican Republic will have to appear again before the Inter-American Human Rights Commission (CIDH) for its alleged “absence of effective judicial response in cases of denaturalization” on 417 descendants of undocumented Haitians who had been born in the country.

It’s the second time the country has to defend itself from accusations of violating human rights of people of Haitian descent, the first being the case of the girls Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bocio, in 2006. The Inter-American Human Rights Court sentenced the country to pay damages to the two girls of Haitian ancestry, who were refused birth certificates,

The CIDH hearing on the “Judicial Response in Cases of Denaturalization in Dominican Republic” was scheduled for October 24 in the OAS headquarters in Washington, as notified to the country by CIDH deputy executive secretary Elizabeth Abi-Mershed on September 22.

It also issued a period of 20 days for the parts to send the documents summarizing the main aspects to the CIDH, as well as all the documentation considered necessary for the hearing.

The request was submitted to the CIDH August 19 by the Robert Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights, Global Rights and the Dominican-Haitian Women Movement (Mudha), headed by Sonia Pierre, among others.

In September Electoral Board president Robert Rosario said denunciations in only 120 cases had been received and not 417.

He said 49 correspond to birth certificates which are correct; 23 cases are birth certificates which have to be transcribed to Special Book of Foreigners for being  children of nonresident foreigners; 8 cases correspond to birth certificates suspended on false data and pending in the courts, and that information on the documentation filed by the declaring parents for lacking documents to sustain the investigation was requested from the Mudha, on the 40 remaining cases.

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218 comment(s)
Written by: DONT_BE_SILENT, 30 Sep 2011 10:02 AM
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
Thanks to: Solange Pie!

International Community: WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION.

Haiti does not issue birth certificate either to its people.
Written by: Atabey, 30 Sep 2011 10:52 AM
From: United States, NYC
The DR should issue IDs to all undocumented Haitians in DR. Unless these are carried and presented by Haitians residing in DR, their immediate deportation will ensue. This documentation must be accepted by Haiti itself as basis for issuing its own National ID documentation to these illegal in transit migrants in DR.

And check the massive fraud in Cedulas and other illegal documents in DR. Terminate the illegal documents and issue IDs indicating the REAL National origin of the individual and their descendants. Wow, what a can a worms this will open up!
Written by: RBenito, 30 Sep 2011 11:15 AM
From: Dominican Republic
I honestly think it is about money and social status. Some Haitians have visas; and their kids have Dominican birth certificate.
Written by: telemeco, 30 Sep 2011 11:40 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
Why it is that the Dominican Government tell these institution and in a public way, call CNN, Fox, Associate Press, SIN and make a public statement

Dominican are only Dominican true blood line, just like in Europe...tell this organization CASE CLOSE, and Mrs Pierre go back to Haiti
Written by: Je_Suis_Haitien, 30 Sep 2011 3:55 PM
From: Haiti
I do think its wrong its right or wrong
Written by: Je_Suis_Haitien, 30 Sep 2011 3:55 PM
From: Haiti
I do think its wrong its right or wrong
Written by: Je_Suis_Haitien, 30 Sep 2011 3:55 PM
From: Haiti
I do think its wrong its right or wrong
Written by: JPDTrinity, 30 Sep 2011 5:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
Dominican true blood line?

What is that suppossed to mean? All Dominicans look Haitian. So what is that suppossed to mean?

The only way we can have a true Dominican blood line is by making sure we deport them all back to Haiti, build a wall, and make sure no soulless empty jacket cop take a bribe from any of them and let them into the country. Then we would kind of start creating real Dominicans again.

Why kind of? well, we already have 3/4 of DR Hatianized - look around. Everyone looks the same. Everyone!!

So - after all - there's not such Dominican True Blood Line.

DR is DARKLY DOOOOOOOMED!!!
Written by: BernardJeanPierre, 30 Sep 2011 6:03 PM
From: United States
Sad thing is these cases represent only a drop in the bucket. It really all boils down to 2 things - discrimination due to Nationality, and the pitifully lazy way the Dominican Government has adopted to try to deal with its immigration issues now that its become inconvenient for them and the brief economic gains of cheap labor can not silence the public at large.

"Dominican are only Dominican true blood line, just like in Europe" What???

In addition to the grammar that comment makes NO sense. Dominicans are a people of MIXED orgins, they are Dominican by Nationality not by "blood line". (What are you a horse breeder or something??) Genetically, Dominicans are of European, African and Indian descent. The average admixture is about 46% European, 41% African, %13 Taino Indian. There are of course Dominicans that are more European, more African and even more Taino. But as a whole they are mixed race people.
Written by: telemeco, 30 Sep 2011 7:42 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
BernardJeanPierre

Blood line, it is a legal term to define nationality, practice in Spain and Italy

it work like this

Mother(Dominican born) + father (dominican born)= child (Dominican)
Mother( Haitian Born)+ Father (haitian Born + Child Born in Dominican Republic= Child Haitian

You are assuming that DR has the same law as the US. if you are born in American territory you are automatically an American, Dominican law require one the parent be of Dominican decent for the child to be declare Dominican

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis
Written by: BernardJeanPierre, 30 Sep 2011 11:11 PM
From: United States
@telemeco - Wrong again, "blood line" is NOT a "legal term" practiced in Spanish and Italy because it is not an Italian or Spanish word. Now maybe the Spanish EQUIVALENT of bloodline is used, but in English (the language you and I are now speaking) bloodline often refers to Animals, for example, "my Dog is a champion, pure-bred Doberman, he was an excellent bloodline." When referring to people words like 'lineage', 'descendant', 'progeny', 'family', and like words are used. But ok, sure, I get your point. However, you fail to mention that the Dominican has RETROACTIVELY applied a change to its own constitution in order to take AWAY citizenship from some Dominicans of Haitian descent. Those laws are made specifically to target those people and nothing more. That is the very reason why the International Community has to constantly hold the Dominican Government accountable. If there was no validity to these claims then it would be NO reason to waste money, time and effort on it.
Written by: canadafriend, 1 Oct 2011 2:16 AM
From: Canada
The nationality issue varies a lot even from one European country to another and not just Europe). In some, even if you are born there, you maintain the nationality of the parents. In others, you get the nationality of the country where you are born. In others again, you may get the nationality of a country if your parents or grand-parents are born there. The problem that appears the worst in DR / Haiti is the following for human rights : it goes back further than 1 generation. Generation "A" left Haiti x number of years ago to "suit" labour needs on both sides probably but ended up with no legal papers. Generation "B", because their parents had no "legal papers" could not be declared in DR. Generation "C" have undeclared parents born in DR and refused citizenship in DR and cannot be declared as citizens in Haiti because even their parents were not born there. Yet, human rights state that all and every individual has a RIGHT to a nationality.
Written by: canadafriend, 1 Oct 2011 2:23 AM
From: Canada
I rather question "what is a true blood Dominican"? Just as much as I question what is a true blood American or a true blood Canadian. A Dominican man marries an American mother who's mother was born in Germany and their son marries a girl from Costa Rica and their daughter marries a man from China... And they can all be Americans. "True blood"?
Written by: mirabal4ever This user is banned, 1 Oct 2011 6:18 AM
From: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito"
Deport every Haitian that is illegal. You are breaking the law. End of story.
Written by: the_haitian, 1 Oct 2011 8:05 AM
From: United States
@telemeco mother haitian+father dominican=child is what? Father is haitaN born but us citizen mother dominican child born in haiti what is child
Written by: DONT_BE_SILENT, 1 Oct 2011 8:14 AM
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
Illegal mother+illegal father=NON DOMINICAN ILLEGAL.
Written by: vegano, 1 Oct 2011 12:54 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Dont_Be_Silent excellent definition. US deal with your own immigraation problems. Or give us the Millions we are spending in health care for them.
Written by: eLGeNeRaLiSsImO, 1 Oct 2011 7:41 PM
From: United States
The solution of all Dominican Republics problems......Bring to power a man with same ideals and methods of trujillo.............ya
Written by: daswolfgang, 1 Oct 2011 7:49 PM
From: United States, jackson heights ny
The actor MARTIN LAWRENCE was born in germany, but he doesnt has the german citizenship
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 2 Oct 2011 5:19 PM
From: Haiti
This law in DR is a bull sh*t!
If you born in DR you are DOMINICAN!
What is the story of blood!
A lot of Dominicans are Haitian blood! Why you write about blood? A dominican is a mix of blood!
It's not an original race! You have some blood haitian, european and TAINO!
This law is a racist law!
A LOT OF AMERICAN is born in DOMINICAN and they have the passport of DOMINICAN AND AMERICAN! Their parents are both AMERICANS!
Why you don't applied this for THE HAITIAN?
Stop your kidding with your sh*t law!
I am tired with this law of modher f*cker!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 2 Oct 2011 5:20 PM
From: Haiti
A lot of DOMINICANS HAVE HAITIAN BLOOD!
Stop to hate what you are!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 2 Oct 2011 5:24 PM
From: Haiti
elgeneralismo
Go ahead to do the same with your leader TRULLO and i am sure this time you and your soldier will in the hell this time believe me!
Written by: poponlaburra, 3 Oct 2011 4:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
How long we have to endure this pain in the ass people always bringing us problem, what a big PEST HAS HAITIANS HAVE BECOME FOR DOMINICANS. How long the Dominican people have to put up with their crap.

Now our poor government with limited resources has to spend the little funds we have for our poor for this locust plague.

How long do we have to put up with that? NO MAS, BASTA
Written by: poponlaburra, 3 Oct 2011 4:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
The Haitians has become a locust plague for Dominicans ever since they were brought to this island. Haitians do not belong on this island, period. All they do is destroy destroy, destroy.

I am wayyy tired nor all these Haitians and the huge problem they had caused and continue to cause for us DOMINICANS.
Written by: poponlaburra, 3 Oct 2011 4:26 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
In a way I am glad we get such thing as mention in the article so our goverment open their eyes and see they must build the wall for we'll always have this problem.

Our goverment do not have to show up to that citation, but round up all these Haitians and send them back ASAP.

Written by: poponlaburra, 3 Oct 2011 4:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
Our government MUST STOP using Haitians as seasonal worker, once.

We need to bring other type of people from other countries to do what the Haitians are doing in DR.
We must bring people from other Latin American countries and maybe Europeans farmers who love working in farms and constructions.

NO MAS HAITIANOS POR FAVOR
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 3 Oct 2011 5:01 PM
From: Haiti
i would say we are more intelligent than you!
It's time to stop your hatred, i am tired to see a lot of Dominicans who take their time to throw their hate in this forum. and they have their fat ass in USA. Dominican republic need haitians like Haitians need Dominicans to have a better island. Let me tell you we organise some play olympic with the dominicans each year for have more warm relations.
The new generations will change the islands, i hope. because in your head the spirit of trullo is here.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 3 Oct 2011 8:34 PM
From: United States
Agree with you popon.
Written by: guillermone, 3 Oct 2011 11:12 PM
From: United States
If we start to automatically give Dominican nationality to DR born children of the 2,000,000 undocumented Haitians, What the hell to do you think is going to happen in a few decades? The Dominican Republic will disappear............In will be a matter of time before the island becomes seemless and by defacto will become one nation. That is precisely what we want to avoid. It has nothing to do with racist policies. Haiti is 100 times more racist then the DR.

My wife is a white blonde Dominican from the Cibao who tried to do business in Haiti. She was called La blanc and made her life very difficult for her. Haitians were not nice and were not friendly to her because she was white.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Oct 2011 4:51 AM
From: Haiti
guillERMORE
you are a liar! in Haiti even the person who are black and have a skin less black than the other are called 'blanc' who mean white!
It's not a racist word! a lot of white have a good situation in haiti, they have a lot of respect in Haiti!
More in REP DOM. If your wife are not nice how she expected the person will nice with her? It's normal! she believe we going polish her shoes? I don't think you want to advoid your country become a mess, DR is already a mess! sorry but your country have already take a lot of european nations and latino. You prefer said you are european or latino then you hava African blood. You stay for the most a lot of ignorant! It's time to educate a lot of among you, even the persons like you who live in Usa. DIGICEL don't say what you said, voila not said what you say, a lot of person like you try to discourage the persons who want come in Haiti. Can you tell me why your woman blonde want to come here to do business? and in what?
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Oct 2011 4:59 AM
From: Haiti
once again a lot of tourist who come in your house tell me you are not nice.
They found the haitians who work in DR are very nice than the dominicans. A lot of come in the province at haiti and the found it is a beautiful country!
we don't want your venom for my country! you can do what you want but you going keep the blood of HAITIAN for a long time. And you going already had what you don't want.
A lot of Dominican who have a light skin have a father or a mother Haitians and sometimes they have the both!
I know why the caricom don't want to make affairs with you! because a lot of dominicans are racists, or have lost their identity! once again this is a great disease!
unhappy a few Dominicans are against this bull sh*t of law but they have scared to tell this. because the have scared to be killer by the other Dominicans!
A lot of among you tell me the dominicans are very violent!
I KNOW one of a lot of dominicans who live here for 20 years, they said me the prefer live in H
Written by: tunbagobierno, 4 Oct 2011 8:40 AM
From: United States
@
@kiskeyaman.....what about when one haitiian calls another Haitian KAKA DYAB?

Written by: tunbagobierno, 4 Oct 2011 8:40 AM
From: United States
@
@kiskeyaman.....what about when one haitiian calls another Haitian KAKA DYAB?

Written by: guillermone, 4 Oct 2011 10:20 AM
From: United States
KISKEYMAN YOU CAN CALL ME A LIAR BUT YOU CAN NOT PROVE IT. BUT I CAN PROVE HAITIANS ARE RACIST WITH HISTORY TO SUPPORT THE CLAIM.

Do you remember, "Koupe tet- Boule Kay"- These were the famous words of Haitian heroe Dessalines, who attempted to kill every white and mulatoe on the island of Hispaniola.

Emperor Dessalines was a black supremacist, not only for his hate and extermination of whites, mulattoes and his genocidal policies, but also for his racist constitution that forbade whites from owning properties in Haiti.

The majority of Haitians today, are proud of this most brutal and blood thirsty maniac and as you know he is still venerated in remembrance in your Haitian national anthem "La Dessalinienne".
Written by: guillermone, 4 Oct 2011 12:21 PM
From: United States
@kiskeyaman-How about, "Rayi chen, di dan l blan."

In addition to KAKA DYAB, "Rayi chen, di dan l blan" is another derogotory, anti-white racist remark which are very common in Haiti.
Written by: poponlaburra, 4 Oct 2011 6:44 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People

The Haitians butchered thousands of innocent Dominican Kids made them walk to Haiti to be stepped on by horses and other beasts in an attempt to erase true Dominicans of Spanish and Tainos descendants, now they continue to eliminate the true Dominican bloodline by exporting their beggar and abandoned kids into Dominican soil.

NO MAS HAITIANOS POR FAVOR
Written by: poponlaburra, 4 Oct 2011 6:51 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People

In the 1804-5 Haitian invasions, the Savage Haitians almost wiped out our white and mestizo children population and now we have to save and take care of those curtios Haitianitos. Hasta cuando nuestros hombres van a defender el patrimonio Dominicano, conazo!!! Basta ya!!

"Note that in the description of the degollados children, in the greater altar of the church of Moca was only 40, but this one fact is only the narrated thing by the author, the degollados ones in all the island are countless, because this one action by order of Dessalines was executed in many places of the French territory of the island and were thousands. " Historia de mi salida-"
Written by: poponlaburra, 4 Oct 2011 6:53 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
Let's not forget the Haitians almost and how wiped out our children's population. Let not forget for history repeats it self as it is happening now.

"An interesting data is the relation woman-children who were taken from Santiago for Haiti “like a flock”, because while the women were 249, the children and children added 748, that is to say, three young younger times and than women. Women, children and children of Santiago dragged prisoners and towards Haiti added 997 people, but this group was only the one who took from Santiago. Trustworthy information of actions indicated in Moca and Santiago exists, but Full it narrates that by order of Henri Christophe “Plata Mount, San Pedro and the Cotuí were reduced to ashes, and its captive degollados or taken settlers like animals, moored and mistreated in amounts of thousands towards territory of Haiti”." From "Historia de mi salida"
Written by: poponlaburra, 4 Oct 2011 7:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People

History is repeating itself-just look at the wannabe quisqueyaman where he mentions that in 20 years everyone in DR will have Haitians blood, which is their pure intention, to wipe any non-Haitian decendants from Dominicanos. That is why Haitians will be always Haitians, all they do best is destroy, that is why they will never, never progress, for thy are consume with envy towards Dominicans. They should concentrate in working with their problems but noooo, all they do is scheming how to Haitianize Dominicans so we end up looking like them, both physically and economically!!

NO MAS HAITIANOS POR FAVOR!!!!
Written by: poponlaburra, 4 Oct 2011 7:16 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People

Where in history HAS anyone heard of or read about a group of people beheading (desgollar) innocent children?? and in a church??? and more than 40??

Why that is Dominicans forget this horrific monstrous unthinkable event done to our children, and now this stupid and ignorant international agency wants us to protect the little Haitian bastard children after what they did to us. Unimaginable.

Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Oct 2011 7:41 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO
you are very funny! AHAAHAHHHAA
You hear some sentences but you don't know the real sens!
AHAHAHAHAH
you know the sentence is talk about the quality of the teeth!
a white teeth is a quality!
Rayi chen, di dan l blan you can translate that by give to cesar what thing who belong CESAR!
It's not a question of colour!
The haitian or the little dominicans who do 2 days in HAITI don't know the real signification of our proverb!
I am happy to educate you, you welcome little dominican!

Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Oct 2011 7:43 PM
From: Haiti
poponlaburra,
PLEASE CLOSE YOUR MOUTH!
I am tired about the lie of the century!
please give me a break, you dash the oil in the fire!
go in your cradle!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Oct 2011 7:48 PM
From: Haiti
EH POMPOMGIRL
Don't forget where is your country in 1950-70!
Your country was a jungle, you come in haiti to take exemple! Don't forget haiti is down only last twenty five years!
but before you come in HAITI to demand help for have a beautiful capital!
seek for that!
Written by: guillermone, 4 Oct 2011 9:12 PM
From: United States
OK, you got Kiskeyaman..........but only on one single point.

What about the rest you Kaka Dyab?
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Oct 2011 9:18 PM
From: Haiti
GUILERM
KAKA DIAB mean the sh*t of the devil!
the two words is far to mean a racist word!
sorry but if you want to learn creole i can help you!
kaka = sh*it
DIAB= devil
you welcome in my language! is now a language who have a lot of poem who are writing in this language!
Written by: guillermone, 4 Oct 2011 10:51 PM
From: United States
kiskeyaman you are twisting the meaning. You are a hypocrite. Be a man and accept the truth. You know very well Haitians call whites the devils shit. And you know very well the gran hero for Haiti dessalines hated whites and mulatoe and all he wanted to do was cut their head and burn their houses. Dont you give me NO shit, KKman........
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 5 Oct 2011 4:42 AM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO
waw after i took all my time to educate you, you dare insult me! you're really in bad faith!
It's you the bad, it's you the devil, i write you the truth! you don't want the truth! it's not my fault if you have a lot of problem to understand the sens of the word in creole! You hatred about the haitians so blind you that you see the bad in each proverb haitian! it's you the SHIT of DIABLE!
You have unhappy for you a bad heart!
the next time you can think what you want i don't care!
Why you talk about DESSALINES? you are very a rotten to the core of your soul!
in the way, the dominicans like you is full rotten and the can't accept the real truth!
I lost my time with you is too late for you! i am sure a day your hate will going to
exploded in your big mouth
!
It's sad to see you are very narrow-minded! GUILLERMO THE ITALIAN DOMINICAN You are very rotten and stop your rotten here.
I am here and you can't tell all days a lot of lie about the haitians, f*ck liar!


Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 5 Oct 2011 4:44 AM
From: Haiti
STOP YOUR VENOM i would say!
Written by: guillermone, 5 Oct 2011 10:51 AM
From: United States
What Venom are you talking about?

I am discussing facts. Are you going to deny the truth?
Why do you react so defensively when pinned and cornered against the wall?

You did not address the question about the Haitian heroe Dessalines.
You did not address the queston about the Haitian national anthem "La Dessalinienne.
You did not address the question about the meaning of "Koupe tet- Boule Kay."
You did not address the question about Kaka Dyab.

If you deny any of this to be true then you have not read Haitian history and live in a bubble.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 5 Oct 2011 12:04 PM
From: Haiti
guillermo
You try to play with the words even you don't know their means
You live in the bubble of the past, now we work to have a better future in HAITI!
Now we have a prime minister and a new government will create after a last step in the parliament.
Yes we are proud to our hymn national! Haiti is born in the revolution!
yes you say nothing of positive in add a lot of things which are a lot of lies! it's for that i told you stop your venom!
stop please, you are ridiculous!
and you are narrow-minded!
Written by: guillermone, 5 Oct 2011 1:32 PM
From: United States
There you go again avoiding the question. Ok....if you do not want to answer, well so be it.
It proves you have no defense. The only thing you can do is call me a liar, ridiculous, narrow-minded, venemous and one who plays on words.

Don't attack me Please. Attack ONLY ideas. When you make personal attacks against me or some one you do not agree with, it is you who loses.

Now are you going to answer the question of what ?
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 5 Oct 2011 2:16 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO

whose own the idea?
it come from you, who you attack in your sentence? i don't have the choice to attack the person who writen the sentences because the say a lot of crap who are not true!
What question?
Why i going to answer you if what i answer u you call me hypocrite!
so you do not deserve a response!
Written by: guillermone, 6 Oct 2011 9:53 AM
From: United States
Ok-Kiskeyaman-I guess it is alright for YOU to call ME names but it is not Ok for me to do it to you.

I see.............You have one sided logic...............It takes two to tango my friend...........And I can't dance alone but neither can you.....The problem is that you are stepping on my feet and refuse to neither learn the steps nor apologize for the errors. But you keep doing it thinking you know how to dance and if you continue in the end you will end up alone, without a partner on the dance floor. One thing for sure, I don't want a silent partner.

Now go take two aspirins, blow off some hot steam and call me in the morning........But remember practice, practice and a lot of practice and just maybe in the end you will get those steps right.
Written by: Atabey, 6 Oct 2011 10:51 AM
From: United States, NYC
Until the DR leadership addresses the issue correctly, this problem is unsolvable. Certainly, the USA, France, the NGOs- Haiti! would all LOVE to wash their hands and dump this perennial problem on the DR. There's no question about their intentions and they have been trying to BUY the Dominican leadership to this position.

But here is when the Dominican leadership needs to formulate policy and stay ahead of the curve of these players. In the end, some trade-off will need to happen. The DR leadership needs to play its hand strongly while not overflowing the disagreeable cup of tea or hot coffee it offers the "hand washing committee." A good start will advance the policy of identifying all Haitian inhabitants in DR and giving them their own personal Haitian ID papers. Without these papers, ID cards, they will be subject to immediate repatriation. If they have their card, then a slower process will ensue.

But first control the border!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 6 Oct 2011 11:03 AM
From: Haiti
Guillermone
'Ok-Kiskeyaman-I guess it is alright for YOU to call ME names but it is not Ok for me to do it to you.'
Look at again your posts and you will see you have called me all names like KK?
You are a funny man, you accuse the persons about all bad things you do?
I am not narrow-minded like a lot of persons who are in the site.
When a bad thing is happened in my country i have the courage to write that! i denounce all bad things even in my own familly! I am correct! But you, you are blocked when i say you the truth about a thing that you are persuaded is the real truth then is a lie!

I don't remember when you ask me some excuses about your errors! Sorry i can't danse Tango, onely COMPA, ZOUK, SALSA, RNB, REAGGAE it already a lot of dance! Maybe we can danse together if you know one of the danse i will danse with you!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 6 Oct 2011 11:17 AM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMONE2

Yes DESSALINES hated the whites persons, is a reality. But you must understand in what context he hates the white persons! THE WHITE PERSONS HATE the black in that time(1800....etc)
until now a lot of white hate the blacks!
if you want defend a colour, it's your problem. Me i see the future, unlike you i don't waste my time to show with my finger all time the bad thing of my neightbor.
If you are not willing to hear the truth don't ask questions!
Written by: guillermone, 6 Oct 2011 11:41 AM
From: United States
Alright Kiskeyaman-

You are the perfect example of "What's the use."

The dance has nothing to do with what type of music played, the problem with you Kman is that you keep side stepping or back stepping the issue. When directly confronted, instead of answering calmly you react and blow up, start spitting fire out of your mouth. Your responses are emotional and reactionary, then you write a lot but say nothing.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 6 Oct 2011 10:06 PM
From: United States
@guillermone

That's why I don't take kiskeyaman seriously.....he makes me laugh though.
Written by: guillermone, 7 Oct 2011 11:46 AM
From: United States
@tunbagobierno-

The problem with Kman is that he wants people to sugar coat the situation in Haiti and gets offended if you state truth. He wants you to feel sorry for Haiti, prefers a stroke on the back, a pat on the head and just like a baby will be happy to get a lollipop to pacify his concerns. This is what he wants instead of constructive criticism. Yes, he wants to hear everything will be OK with Haiti, things will get better very soon, all the problems will be solved from one day to the next and every one will live happy ever after in paradise.

Kman is a perfect example of what is wrong with Haiti. People don't want to face reality, but continue to place hope on government, when in fact gov't has done little to fix things but rather made it worse. The first step to solve any problem is to admit and accept the severity of the situation. Once you understand, only then can clear cut solutions be devised. To do otherwise is to live in lala land, in reality a doomed destiny
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 7 Oct 2011 12:26 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO
It's your opinion unlike you i don't try to say you are a liar then someone give me the good answer!
'This is what he wants instead of constructive criticism'
AHAAHHAHAHAH you are funny, you guillermo, you make constructive criticism? It's a joke?
You decrive exactly your person, You want i give you are reason when you dash your venom on the head of HAITI. You will want, i said DR is a paradise, a rich country? then it's not the case.
why you don't make any critic about your country? You have like haiti a lot of problem!
your children are forced to work, you have a lot of slums!
Why you expect i am nice with you then you said a lot of liar!
not a day you talk positive about haiti, you have no respect for your neighbor! in another post, because another dominican are not agree with you, you said he is a haitian!
you are very flawed about who i am!
Written by: guillermone, 7 Oct 2011 1:23 PM
From: United States
Look Kman focus your attention on Haiti and not the problems of my country. We are dealing with our problem as best we can. It is you who are here on a Dominican forum, not me on a Haitian forum. I know very well the problems about my country. I don't need you to point it out to me. But different from you, you don't seem to want to know, admit the very serious, calamitous conditions of Haiti.

Don't get mad, don't insult people because we point out the truth. That does not help Haiti.
Be humble and admit the reality. Believe me you will feel much better. It is the first step for the solution to Haiti's problem.

I don't understand why you say I talk bad about Haiti. I only say what I read in newspaper and what I saw when I visited Haiti. I have many Haitian friends and I give jobs to Haitian people to make money to send to Haiti. I have been to your country many times on humanitarian missions. I am a witness, Haiti is in desparate situation and need a lot of help from all
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 7 Oct 2011 1:33 PM
From: Haiti
GENEROSO
'I don't need you to point it out for me.
But different from you, you don't seem to want to admit the very serious, calamitous conditions of Haiti.'

AHAHAHHA, i am here to educate you, and stop you! because your job is to divide. Your people have a bad condition of live too! I know very well your country and i come when i want in your house! do you know why a lot of country of caricom don't work with your country? because you have in DR a great problem of identity! a lot of person in DR are very rotten! in your country there are alot of slums! why you don't tell that? i am sure i know better your country than you. the reality i know that, i live in HAITI, i am not like you in USA! DR don't know you but me Haiti know me!
Do you see the difference? we don't need your words full of crap to know the reality! a lot of things you write is not the reality, your problem is you think you are GOD, your country is the most rich of the world, Why you don't write about the problem of
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 7 Oct 2011 1:45 PM
From: Haiti
GENEROSO
Do you know how many Dominicans live in Haiti? No i don't think that! do you know how many of your countrymen do the prostitution in Haiti?
Do you know how many dominicans live here? You have more of 250 000 dominicans here!
I know in your country we have more haitians. You see i write the reality! Do you know that a lot of DOMINICANS Come here to have a better live! Do you know a lot of Dominicans come here and fall in love with haitian women and make several children?
don't be naive, you know i give you a advice, follow what your countrymen said you about haiti in the other post!
You are blinded by what you read from the newspapers! they don't said what haiti do on positive!

Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 7 Oct 2011 1:53 PM
From: Haiti
'I have many Haitian friends and I give jobs to Haitian people to make money to send to Haiti. I have been to your country many times on humanitarian missions. I am a witness, Haiti is in desparate situation and need a lot of help from all '

You speak like a lot of racist, oh you know i know a lot of blacks!
If you come here on Humanitarian missions is for make your money! you do nothing here, it's time to hunt the persons, they come in our beach! and person know what he does in this country!
It's true haiti must do the same thing like WANDA!
kicked out MINUSTHA and the NGOs.
WHY you come here then you are a racist person?
you hate the haitians and you full of hatred! I am sure your aim is to see the
disappeance of haiti but haiti will live again like the phenix!
I am sorry for you!

















Written by: the_haitian, 7 Oct 2011 2:44 PM
From: United States
@guill first of all in haiti when we call somebody le blanc all it means that you are a stranger to the. Land. And the hatred dessaline had for the white was the treatmeant that receive from them. He did not kill mulattoes they were there in the independence. @ first yes just like dominican from santiago area feels like there. Are better then the one from the capital. And you know many dominican lives in haiti and have bus and work there.
Written by: guillermone, 7 Oct 2011 2:59 PM
From: United States
OK-Kman I give up....Like I said before you are the perfect example of what's the use !!

The reason I don't talk about the problems of the DR is because this article talks about Haiti not about the DR. Do you understand? "Human rights case again pits Dom Rep, Haitian descendants"

We are here to talk about problems with Haiti, there are plenty of other threads on DT about problems in the DR and yes my country has plenty of its own share of problems. And I accept and admit them, unlike you who do not, but prefer to twist things around so I can get defensive and you do that to distract and take away from the real topic and because you have NO DEFENSE.That is the only thing you can do is turn things around and use it against me as the only and last resort defense, because you have nothing to stand on, only to attack those who point out defects.

Dont be mad and upset, be happy people are paying attention to your country and see the problems. What do you want to do keep it secret?
Written by: the_haitian, 7 Oct 2011 3:00 PM
From: United States
@poupou boy/girl put the pipe down and walk away you having a nightmare you need help don't smoke your own product ok. Hope you not one of the dealer they caught
Written by: the_haitian, 7 Oct 2011 3:01 PM
From: United States
@guill first of all in haiti when we call somebody le blanc all it means that you are a stranger to the. Land. And the hatred dessaline had for the white was the treatmeant that receive from them. He did not kill mulattoes they were there in the independence. @ first yes just like dominican from santiago area feels like there. Are better then the one from the capital. And you know many dominican lives in haiti and have bus and work there.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 8 Oct 2011 12:14 AM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO

I can defense myself don't worry for me but for you!
If i can give you an advise, it's to wash your soul! You are rotten untill your bone!
I accept the critic of a boy who can bring something well, not a guy like you, arrogant,racist,not humble, no thank you! keep your critik which smell bad for you and your familly!
go in your cradle my dear!
I hate the member of KKK, i hate the person who love trullo, HITLER!
we must not mix the dirty cloths and clean cloths!
Written by: guillermone, 8 Oct 2011 10:31 AM
From: United States
Kman, is that all you know how to do? is that all you can do is insult and spit fire out of your mouth?
Don't you have anything substantial to state that would better defend your position. Is that all you can do is use verbal attacks against your opponent?

That is why Haiti is in the situation, because you people do not know how to solve things peacefully.

The way you have handled this debate shows very clearly the type of person you are. I do not need to use words to describe your level. People will see you for what you are. I will not lower myself to insults, because that is what you want me to do. I will not go down in the mud and get dirty with you. Believe me if you clean up your post, you will gain more credibility and people will support you. The way you handle things now makes you appear as if you just came out of the who knows where.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 8 Oct 2011 2:19 PM
From: United States
@gillermone

Observa como les "mato el gallo" a estos dos Haitianos y como siempre van a salir con una estupidez.

Watch me debate this two haitans ranters and as always,being confronted with the truth they'll come up with the most retarded replies,making no sense at all.
And of course we'll laugh at their ignorance and hypocrisy.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 8 Oct 2011 2:22 PM
From: United States
@ Pityman and "the-haitian"

Emmanuel W. VEDRINE,Haitian reporter:

1) "It is quite funny when reading on-line some Haitians who put so much emphasis on racism as if there was no racism back home. What would we conclude if we’d just take a trip back to Haiti and take a look at most of the students who attend top prestigious schools to see what color they are."


Written by: tunbagobierno, 8 Oct 2011 2:23 PM
From: United States
2 ) "So, is there any racism in Haiti? A close friend of mine, from the upper class in Haiti, was telling me how some of her relatives tried their very best to get a divorce for one their daughters who married a dark skinned, low class man who is a very intelligent guy and then went all the way to Brazil to find a poor white Brazilian to arrange a second marriage for her in order to “save” the race."
Written by: tunbagobierno, 8 Oct 2011 2:24 PM
From: United States
3) "Even the darkest person in Haiti would call another one kaka dyab (devil shit). So, how do we, Haitians, expect a lighter skinned person to behave back home when most dark skinned Haitians are not proud of their own skin color?"
Written by: tunbagobierno, 8 Oct 2011 2:25 PM
From: United States
3) "But are we going to complain about racism here and there or focus on opportunities? So, if back home in Haiti, most Haitians are not being treated as human beings, how on earth we Haitians expect to be treated well even in the neighboring Dominican Republic?"
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 8 Oct 2011 3:18 PM
From: Haiti
guillermo
I don't want defense my position in front of a guy racist! do you forget you already insult me? do you have a disease with your memory?
'That is why Haiti is in the situation, because you people do not know how to solve things peacefully.'
your problem is you juge me and becaume according you i am bad is for that my country have a bad situation!
your sentence don't have any sens!
If it was true then DR would be very rotten because you are very rotten!

'The way you have handled this debate shows very clearly the type of person you are.'
Debate? What debate? you are full of hatred! and you want have reasons! you are not objective, your hatred about haiti lead you! I am sure you are not DOMINICAN! You are a racist!
you are a liar, you said you give job for haitian then give me the name of your enterprise!

'you will gain more credibility and people will support you' Unlike you i am not here for defend my position, you are here for grow the hatred of Dominicans! Th
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 8 Oct 2011 3:28 PM
From: Haiti
tunbagobierno
you return again?
Do you know why the caricom don't want boss with your country?
answer to me in first!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 8 Oct 2011 8:48 PM
From: United States
@kiskeyaman

1) I've never left.

2) Stop being such a COWARD and answer to what your haitian reporter stated!
Written by: guillermone, 9 Oct 2011 10:26 AM
From: United States
Kman stop calling me names. Lets talk about the issues, lets get down to the real topics, lets discuss what really is important about Haiti. Forget about me. You do not know me or what is inside my heart. Hatred and racism is not any one of them.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 9 Oct 2011 12:25 PM
From: Haiti
Guillemo
You are a liar if not tell me the name of your enterprise which you employ the haitians!
TUNGOVERMENT
Is you the coward, let me said you in Haiti we recognized our identity, we have some brood european like you, we have some blood of the people of poland!
you have in haiti a place who have the name of KAZALE, DESSALINES you called the killer have give the place to the peple poland because, they refuse to fight with the slaves because the discover that The french lied!
The haitians are not different, the great difference is we are not coward like a lot of among you.
We recognized that a lot of among us come from AFRICA!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 9 Oct 2011 12:31 PM
From: Haiti
TUNBIEGO
Is the first time i hear the story, it's the first time i hear the name of the journalist!
I am sure he come from your imagination!
you seek all days to show something bad about Haitian!
you and your twice guillermo are not credible! you lie all day about haitian, you never recognized what good things haiti left for you!
if not haiti i am sure a lot of among you who are mulatoes will be slave!
You think you are free but you are to blind to see the real truth!
it's sad to see you are rotten in the deep of your soul!
ANYWAY a day you will left the earth DR, a new generation come in the two both side!
a day what you don't want will come!
It's for that there are a lot of persons in the both side!
Let me tell you HAITI WIN 7-0 ISLAND ........
I know you hate that but i am happy it's enough for me and all people who like the good play!
Written by: guillermone, 9 Oct 2011 2:25 PM
From: United States
Ok, Kman why don't you take a deep breath and start with #1-

What is the big LIE ?

Please tell me about the lie that I talk and which you accuse me of saying?

First state the lie, why you believe it is a lie and then give me the facts to support your accusation.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 3:49 PM
From: United States
@kiskeyaman :

Ha,ha,ha,haaaa....Not only are you crazy and delusional....but you're also A LIAR....didn't I send you the article about 3 weeks ago or so and you as always did not have an answer..???..ha,ha,haaa. how typical of you!!

Google this "RACISM LIVES HERE AND IN HAITI" and you'll find it...I could post the link,but I won't...for now..I gotta let you have some fun by doing some research,right?
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:04 PM
From: United States
@ kiskeyaman

For some reason I perceive that you're not as proud to be literally 100% black in Haiti.
I mean,now you want to compare the "diversity" in haiti with the diversity in the DR....don't even go there!
The diversity in your side of the island is literally NONEXISTENT!
How sizable were the polish community in haiti?
You know what?..they weren't even a community,they were more like visitors :

Poles in sum sent 5280 people. 4000 dead
400 remained in Haiti
700 returned to France
20 to U.S.
Some in Cuba.

Of the 400 Poles who stayed in Haiti none had been officers. They mainly farmed. 160 got permission to leave in 1805.
By 1900 only 50 families with Polish surnames were reported to live in Haiti. (But, surnames were changed because they were hard to pronounce.

You've been served! LOL!!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:07 PM
From: United States
1) We're not afraid,we've been historically known to kick your asses.

2) Keep your soccer.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 9 Oct 2011 4:10 PM
From: Haiti
guillermone
you said you employ haitian but untill now you don't tell me the name of your enterprise!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:22 PM
From: United States
@KISKEYAMAN:

It is 4:14...and I'm still waiting for your reply....but knowing you,you'll wait until I leave,then you'll dare to post anything....buck-buck-buck...!!! HE,HE,HE,HEEE...!!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 9 Oct 2011 4:29 PM
From: Haiti
tunbagobierno,

I don't want answer you because you seek a lot of things for show you are not racism but all carib said know you have a great problem of identity!
about racism you have a lot of article who show the rep who are most racism of the world!
You have a culte of white in your rep DR!
the most racism of carib is DR all people know that!
i think you can go to google to translate this article! you said you are indio then you are black or mixed! VERY POOR MENTAL!

you don't celebrate very well your war about spaniard, most your battle against boyer!

http://www.fwiyapin.fr/2008/06/la....-ou-la-dictature-de-la-blancheur/
in the second site a dominican who lived in france explain, for go inside a discotheque you must white, when he show his passport french the guys let him go inside!
according to your countrymen DR Is the country most racist in the world!

http://mesjoursagites.over-blog.n....publique_dominicaine_-985892.html
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:37 PM
From: United States
Trying to throw us off by posting links in french now??....HA,HA,HA,HAA...such a smart@ss!!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:39 PM
From: United States
SO....is Emmanuel W. VEDRINE a figment of my imagination as you've claimed before?
Written by: the_haitian, 9 Oct 2011 4:41 PM
From: United States
@tunb it is true there is racism in haiti I will not denie that. But in haiti low cloass is define by money not just the shade of the skin. The school I went to when I was in haiti. Would be consider as a prep school in the states. For you to go your family has to be well off. College canado haitian.but we had korean haitian chinese when I went there. Your class was your income not color. But racism does exist .money first color second
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:43 PM
From: United States
@The Haitian...for the first time I'm going to give you some credit for at least admitting and owning up......I respect you a little bit now.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:45 PM
From: United States
Can't say the same for our ranting maniac and MASCOT "KISKEYAMAN"!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:54 PM
From: United States
@KISKEYAMAN
You wrote:
"in the second site a dominican who lived in france explain, for go inside a discotheque you must white, when he show his passport french the guys let him go inside!"

Are you trying to say that as soon as he showed his passport HE TURNED WHITE?....Jesus..

This is a bad example of racism kiskeyaman,that was more of an example of prejudice instead!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 9 Oct 2011 4:54 PM
From: Haiti
tunbagobierno,

'can't say the same for our ranting maniac and MASCOT "KISKEYAMAN"!'
I don't care about your respect! especially from a dumb, a person who have paid its identity!
Do you know what happend in less 50 years in REP DOMINICAN? IS A CIVIL WARR because the poor dominicans blacks are not considered in your country
It's not racism like said for you the HAITIAN! It's a problem of money but in your country, you have a really problem with the colour of skin! 80% of people in your house have haitian blood!
You must accept that! you hate the person who have black colour in your house!
In several place where a lot of persons come to danse, the black is refused,
Your country is manage by the white people and TRULLO have remake the story of your people!
You are very tortured as people!
CAN You admit that or not?

Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 9 Oct 2011 4:55 PM
From: Haiti
Have you try to read my two links?
You can translate that to google, i Know you speak a bit spanish and english is your origin language, you are not a real dominican, a little dominican know who are they!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 4:58 PM
From: United States
Mire CARAJO..!! Yo soy Dominicano de pura sepa..!!!

PARA QUE TE LO SEPAS..!!!

Ja,ja...viste como rimé ahí??
Written by: guillermone, 9 Oct 2011 7:21 PM
From: United States
"You said you employ haitian but untill now you don't tell me the name of your enterprise!"

Why do you need the name of my enterprise? What are you going to do with that information?

What if I told you that my Haitian employees was my gardener, cleaning lady, chauffeur and nanny?
Does that count?
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 9:22 PM
From: United States
@guillermone

Please do the country a service and fire them!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 9 Oct 2011 9:24 PM
From: United States
I asked kiskeyaman a while ago the question about WHEN DID THE TERM "HAITIAN" BECAME "RACE".

I'd love to read his explanation.
Written by: guillermone, 10 Oct 2011 10:13 AM
From: United States
Oh I can't fire them yet, I have to wait for them to quit. If I fire them now and hire Dominicans, then I would be accused of being a racist..........
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 10 Oct 2011 7:11 PM
From: Haiti
fire me? I think if you see me, you can piss on you and ask me pardon .
now we can see two dumb of the village, not surprise they live in USA! I think unhappy the nuclear don't arrange the things for the two shabby!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 10 Oct 2011 7:21 PM
From: United States
@KISKEYAMAN

I can see you're using the google translator,ha,ha,ha,ha,haaa..!!

You're no making any sense at all DUDE!!!

I tell you man,you make my day..!!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 10 Oct 2011 7:22 PM
From: Haiti
Guillermo
You are a liar, after all i forgive that, you and your boy tunbagobierno are lost!
you have a tortured spirit! I think DR are not lucky to have some citizens like you!
You put your big ass in USA and you pretend to help DR! sorry for you but a amnisty come soon for the illegals! Sorry but DR is the puppet of USA!
Your country remove the paper dominicans to the dominicans who have some descendent haitians!
It's a shame!
Your country have 23% of blacks and you told it's 11%, if i was black dominican, I will denounce the problem mental that a lot of DOMINICANS HAVE!
A lot of lie in your story!
I ask some haitians to have some pride to arrange the things!
it's a shame to see a lot of DOMINICANS ACT LIKE THAT FOR A COUNTRY WHO manage them for 22 years!
you want build a wall? I am for that!
And i am sure like that, the enterprise in HAITI will be build something instead to go in DR and by all craps of this country!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 10 Oct 2011 7:23 PM
From: United States
@kiskeyaman:

Gillermone was talking about your haitian brothers that work at his house you "funny guy you" !!

HE,HE,HE,HE,HE,HE,HE..!!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 10 Oct 2011 7:28 PM
From: Haiti
I KNOW You have a lot of coward in your government and your army who don't want that because they will lost a lot of things.
If you build the wall, your invest foreigner will come in haiti!
and your army of coward will be starve.
I am willing to bet with you if you build this wall, your country come down!
HAITI is the second trade partner of DR, do you know that?
We need to give a second embargo to DR after the eggs!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 10 Oct 2011 7:29 PM
From: United States
a lot of lies in YOUR HISTORY!
YOU CLAIM YOU DEFEATED THE FRENCH,and yet could not defeat our army,(mostly villagers).

YELLOW FEVER AND MALARIA DECIMATED the French and that's why you "supposedly won "!!

Your national anthem should take dessaline's name off and ADD THE MOSQUITO'S INSTEAD!

HA,HA,HA,HA,HAAA..!!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 10 Oct 2011 7:30 PM
From: United States
THERE IS NOTHING IN HAITI.
Who's gonna invest in haiti....what investments are there available....charcoal???...restaveks???
Written by: tunbagobierno, 10 Oct 2011 7:33 PM
From: United States
Your government is the one filled with cowards and MOST OF THE HAITIAN POPULATION WANT TO BAIL OUT OF HAITI TO GO TO THE DR to try to become DOMINICANS!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 10 Oct 2011 8:03 PM
From: United States
@GUILLERMONE

It won't make any difference whether you get rid of them or not,they'll accuse you anyways.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 10 Oct 2011 8:09 PM
From: United States
@kiskeyaman

managing our country?

You call raping,prohibiting,stealing and killing managing?

Hey @sshole,check out your "managing" track record.....look at how "well managed" haiti has been throughout your history.....GREAT JOB!!
Written by: guillermone, 10 Oct 2011 10:25 PM
From: United States
tunbagobierno-I know everything you said about Haiti is accurate. You really know how to as they say in Spanish, "poner el dedo en la llaga," put the finger on the sore spot or rub salt into the wound. Now that can really hurts !!!

But Kman asked and deserved it for talking so much jibberish. I mean the audacity of him to defend himself by using accusatory remarks against the DR when it is precisely Haiti the country guilty of the very same things which he points fingers at us. You do not throw stones at your neighbor, if you live in a glass house. Haiti's window panes are all broken and few if any are left and the reason why thHaiti in on the bottom of the list on almost everything imaginable. And to top it off Kman does not make sense anyway.
Written by: the_haitian, 11 Oct 2011 9:45 AM
From: United States
@tub haiti became a race when dominican became a race. @- the guy who keep saying to bring tujillo back I hope you. Know he was from a haitian familly. And you had a few president in dr that were haitian descent. I am just saying
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 11 Oct 2011 1:26 PM
From: Haiti
tunbagobierno,AND GUILLERMO THE MARICONES
don't forget you have an article who show your countrymen use the children so i don't understand why you write restavec then your country have a lot restavec!
You talk about prostitution then all persons know your country use prostitution for attrack the tuarist an add you have a lot of countrymen who go everywhere to practice this job! maybe you are among them in USA!
You don't win the haitian army but BOYER who commit also a lot of atrocity to the haitians.
If it was when DESSALINES WAS ALIVE It's sure you cannot win this little battle!
the HAITIANS WHO ARE BORN IN HAITI DOn't want to become dominicans BUT it's normal that the Son and daughter of the haitians who borned in your DR become dominicans!
you are the puppet of USA, you don't have the choice, you must give them DOMINICAN's papers!

YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT, 80% of DOMINICANS HAVE BLOOD HAITIANS.
Even they have light skin, look at the nose of DOMINICANS to understand!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 11 Oct 2011 1:28 PM
From: Haiti
tunbagobierno,
you are a idiot like a vegetable!
Haiti will come a new government, you will see the difference!
shabby person
AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Written by: guillermone, 11 Oct 2011 3:58 PM
From: United States
Kman you are a masisi, Ha, haa..... remember you called me that first, so don't come now crying like a masisi.
Written by: poponlaburra, 11 Oct 2011 5:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People

Which foreign investor will come to Haiti????? Every investor knows that...that is why no one comes to Haiti, investor know what you very good at.....killing and attacking whites, mestizo and mulatoes!
Written by: poponlaburra, 11 Oct 2011 5:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
@ kiskeHaiti, yes we have all these Haitians descendants due to your Hate for white and Dominican...remember you tried to wipe all the Dominican white kids from the island remember the Holocaust you did on innocent people?
Written by: poponlaburra, 11 Oct 2011 5:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People

As you see fellow Dominicans KiskeyaHaitian is the typical Haitian you see roaming the street of your country, The Dominican republic” he represents all the Haitians that you feed and the Haitians women that come to use your poor scarce resources, he represents the Haitian babies being born in DR WHO BECOME BEGGARS in the street, just keep in mind what your dealing with, just feel his feeling and be motivated not to allow this new invasion.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 11 Oct 2011 6:30 PM
From: United States
@ the haitian So......what you're trying to say is that if YOU WERE BORN in JAPAN (TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT YOU'RE 100% BLACK),that would change your race to MONGOLOID THEN??

If you were born in Europe,let's say...FINLAND,WOULD THAT MAKE YOU CAUCASIAN?

HAITIAN is not a RACE,IS A NATIONALITY,your race is BLACK!

And by the way,this is the second time I EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU,REMEMBER WHEN I TOLD YOU THAT DOMINICAN WAS NOT A RACE,BUT A NATIONALITY ?
AND WHAT WAS YOUR ANSWER...?...YOU DISAGREED.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 11 Oct 2011 6:49 PM
From: United States
@kisk...errr..pitiman :

you do know that the restavek issue in haiti has no equal.....right?

you fail to remember that we actually beat you in 9 wars until you finally got the message......THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY,don't f. with us"
Written by: tunbagobierno, 11 Oct 2011 7:04 PM
From: United States
@Guillermone.

Unfortunately,one has to stop being politically correct with this kind of people,and sometimes you just have to get the raw, ugly, and hard truth and SLAM IT ON THEIR FACES,'cause that's the only way to get them out their voodoo trance!

I respect the opinion of many Haitians that actually face their reality and that are willing to take their big share of the blame for their misfortunes and are willing to get their hands dirty,trying to build a better future for their land.

Unlike haitians like pitiman here,whose lives are ruled by DOMINICAN AFFAIRS and do actually NOTHING TO BETTER THEIR SITUATION!

WE RULE THEIR LIVES 24/7..!!
Written by: guillermone, 11 Oct 2011 8:51 PM
From: United States
tunbagobierno-this kman called us Mari....that is the best he can come up with for his defense. He knows he is wrong but is not Man enough to admit it and resorts to personal insults. But you got him and got him good. Maybe this will shut his mouth and make him stop talking a lot of crap.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 11 Oct 2011 9:19 PM
From: United States
Guillermone,pitiman has been calling me maricon for a while now...I actually did him a favor and taught him how to spell it right,LOL!

I was able to find video of "kiskeyaman" having fun and entertaining some Dominicans on the streets in the DR :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jh4yDI-VZY


...He learned from the best :



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmBnfWjCkIc
Written by: guillermone, 11 Oct 2011 11:11 PM
From: United States
Hahaha...........the President of Haiti Sweet Mickey is #1 Maricon of Haiti and Kiskeyaman is number two.

I also found a You Tube video of Kiskeyaman girl friend.

http://youtu.be/lbbi5st817I
Written by: tunbagobierno, 12 Oct 2011 7:16 PM
From: United States
HA,HA,HA,HAAAAA....!!!!

THAT VIDEO DOES NOT DISAPPOINT ...!!!

(While doing "her" "sexy pose" ) VROOM,VROOM....BEEP,BEEP..!!! (that was the funniest part,I was rolling on the ground)
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 13 Oct 2011 6:58 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO
You are happy? Little venom, you have all for succeed, you are a frustrate homosexual, you are shabby,you cry like a baby about DESSALINES like a lot of your countrymen, you give a sens to your life when you said crap!
you and your boy GOVERNO are two maricones, you don't have job and i see that because i see you take time to said crap in your site! DR have not chance to have a lot of dominicans as rotten as you, you do the shame of dominican! You really make me want to vomit! but i would want you drink it after! You are a band of maricone

the two dominicans gay guillemone an gove http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YN2-DttQsU
look at band of maricone what you do with your flag!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIYv8D1WHAs&feature=related
you are not so proud to be dominican!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 13 Oct 2011 7:02 PM
From: Haiti
govierno
you are very idiot you don't arrive to share the side artistic and the new man we have, a good president, man who want make the difference and he begin that!

your country is a shame about the right of the dominicans who are the descendent of haitians!
Your f*cking government don't want to give them their nationality dominicans then they are not illegals!


guillermo and govierno the idiots of the village you are very coward!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:04 PM
From: United States
@pitiman

Piti,...DOMINICANS ARE THE ONES MAKING THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR COUNTRY!!!

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/....ics-role-in-Haitis-reconstruction
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 13 Oct 2011 7:05 PM
From: Haiti
gobieno of sh*t


'HAITIAN is not a RACE,IS A NATIONALITY,your race is BLACK!'

I NEVER SAID HAITIAN ARE A RACE IDIOT! i said in your country when a person is black you called it haitian because this person is black!
don't try to lie about me idiot!
you can tell what you want but you have haitian blood!
AHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHA it's your destiny to keep this inside you!
you have a great problem in your head! a tortured brain!
you lost your identity!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:08 PM
From: United States
stop your whining,if their parents entered the country illegally,then guess what...????...they are illegal as well,period!

besides,isn't there a haitian embassy in the dr....how come haitians cannot find its address?

and if your people had any pride,they'd be taking their people back..no questions asked!!!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 13 Oct 2011 7:11 PM
From: Haiti
poponlaburra

kiskeHaiti, yes we have all these Haitians descendants due to your Hate for white and Dominican...remember you tried to wipe all the Dominican white kids from the island remember the Holocaust you did on innocent people

AND BLABLABLA AND DESSALINES!
you know you the dominicans tired me! i understand why you ask education because a lot of among have a great problem of education!
you said all days the same things? But do you forget what your ancestor have doing with the blacks? In all world? WITHOUT HAITI, i am sure all black will stay slave!
do you remember what your parent white doing?
ANYWAY, the story of DR have been the most lie of the humanity! A DAY i am sur DR WILL GOING A CIVIL WAR BECAUSE the white people manage all in your country!
the dominicans have nothing!
DO YOU KNOW WHY YOUR GOVERNMENT DON't want to make a wall?
SEEK the answer! and after you can come in front of me and please stop to cry!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:14 PM
From: United States
@PITIMAN

Damn,that was lame...YOU COULDN'T FIND ANY REAL VIDEOS.....BUEN MARICON!

HA,HA,HA,HA,....keep dancing with MARTELLY you FRUIT!!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:16 PM
From: United States
YOU HAVE NO PRIDE,you and your people want NOTHING TO DO WITH HAITI...HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

WOW,how sad!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 13 Oct 2011 7:16 PM
From: Haiti
poponlaburra,
Which foreign investor will come to Haiti????? Every investor knows that...that is why no one comes to Haiti, investor know what you very good at.....killing and attacking whites, mestizo and mulatoes!

ahhahhaahha don't be naive, you know the reality, don't dumb, you know it's not true what you said! go to see an enterprise like voila which have a boss french since 12 years!
go to see DIGICEL, who have the perfect example that haiti you can do a lot of money!
go to see your white racist who come here to make business!
if you don't get it it's not my fault!
don't try to come here and said a lot of crap like your two fellow!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:18 PM
From: United States


dominicans are managing haiti,stop biting the hand that feeds you,pitiman.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:19 PM
From: United States


And please,can you for once POST AN INTELLIGENT COMMENT??



Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 13 Oct 2011 7:21 PM
From: Haiti
THE PUPPET OF DOMINICANS ARE HERE!
It's very sad to see that, a lot of white dominicans stay racist!
i think the dominicans are the most racist of the world!
even in france the persons are not like you!
if we have better government who must stop to make affairs with you!
if all member of government of haiti was like me, i will build the wall you ask!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:22 PM
From: United States
pitiman.

you're the one ranting about the "haitan race" in the dominican republic,stop back pedaling.......
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:24 PM
From: United States
we were the first in haiti after the earthquake,your whole middle class lives works and studies in the dr,we're rebuilding your country....but of course as you say we're racist.

haitians like you are sad and bitter,he,he,he,heee..
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:27 PM
From: United States
Pitiman said :

"if all member of government of haiti was like me, i will build the wall you ask!"

THERE LIES THE PROBLEM YOU IDIOT....THEY ARE LIKE YOU,THAT'S WHY NOTHING GOES RIGHT IN YOUR COUNTRY!!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 13 Oct 2011 7:35 PM
From: Haiti
you are out about my answer, you hear yourself little crap!
it's not a lack of brain but it was a lack of willing!
and the other countries like your country try to kill my country!
idiot person
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 7:40 PM
From: United States
WE'RE MANAGING YOUR COUNTRY YOU DUMBASS..!!

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/....ics-role-in-Haitis-reconstruction
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 13 Oct 2011 8:09 PM
From: Haiti
look at this video, why you said you are not black?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qjuX40RGPQ&feature=related
Written by: tunbagobierno, 13 Oct 2011 8:46 PM
From: United States
KISKEYAMAN

Ha,ha,ha,haa,the guy that posted that video,has tried many times to diss Dominicans by posting videos with pictures of actual africans and haitians.

he even posted pictures of BLACK PUERTO RICANS and didn't even know it...he's as dumb as you..ha,ha,ha,haaa..!

And yes we do have black...and white and Taino....and you're jealous.
Written by: guillermone, 13 Oct 2011 10:03 PM
From: United States
"You won't read or hear much about similar anti-Haitian incidents and the negative anti-Haitian stigma when its perpetrated by African Americans, Bahamians, Turks & Caicos and other Caribbean islanders who come from islands with a majority black population because the race card won't work there."

But when ever a Dominican attempts to defend their nationality and sovereignty we are condemned and accused of denying the African component of our race. This is what Kman just did by posting an idiotic video which proves nothing. Read the article.

http://the-spark.net/np663402.html
Written by: the_haitian, 14 Oct 2011 11:39 AM
From: United States
@ tunb actually when aristide was president he did tell the dr gov to send all the haitian back to him. @ the same time he would send all the illegal dominican back to dr. Let me tell you something the dominicans that live in haiti were not to happy cause they had business there. Arristide. Told lf let's us close the border. We will stop Buying from each other. You will sell your product to other country. And we will. Buy product from others. Man you guys were crying like babies. You gov said we were only playing. You may not want to belive this but you need us more then we need you. BUYERS HAS MORE POWER THEN SELLERS
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 14 Oct 2011 1:38 PM
From: Haiti
tunbagobierno,
TAINO? What taino, it's a dream for you the dominicans, you don't have blood idians! your ancestors they spaniards who are your god have killed all!
you are black, you should be proud of them!
but it's not a pride to have you in a nation, whatever the nations! you are a dumb, and coward, a shabby
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 14 Oct 2011 1:45 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMONE
Your country want to remove the papers of dominicans descendent and that you don't want hear it!
they dominicans thinks they are most intelligent in the world! they want come for build haitifor have a lot of money then they hate haiti! the ask haiti dead. they want the butter and the money of butter! like a lot of babies dumb, they cried that dessalines do about their ancestors spaniard(A GREAT LIE) BUT I NEVER hear a peole like that! never!
they want to dump their crap product in HAITI, and when a haitian product begin to have succeess in DR, they said that they haitian products are carcinogenic! a lot of cowards!
GUILLERMO AND TUGOVINO THE MOST DUMB in this world!
Written by: guillermone, 14 Oct 2011 7:44 PM
From: United States
Kman did you read the article about Guadaloupe? Now tell me, what do you think about that?

http://the-spark.net/np663402.html
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 15 Oct 2011 3:19 AM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO THE ITALIAN HIDE BEHIND A NATIONALITY OF DOMINICAN
Let me tell you your link is 2001, i will answer you, just for the time! i know why you put this link.
You must know the IBO simon had the same frustration like your trullo! if you read well, you can see the haitians are not the only people he accused for nothing in GUADELOUPE! this man had a tortured spirit, despite he have a black skind, he is a racist person! Yes like your countrymen, sometimes the have light skin or black skin,meanwhile they are racists against their brothers!
do you see, a lot of people in this document help the immigrant haitian?

'On September 5 Ibo Simon, a famous TV talk show host on the Caribbean island of Guadeloupe, went on trial in the capital of Point-à-Pitre. The organization "Friends of Haiti" had sued him, and as a result he was summoned to appear before the court for having made racist and anti-foreigner remarks against Haitian immigrants. '
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 15 Oct 2011 3:30 AM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO
'This suit was supported by a number of organizations and political groups of the left and far left (including our comrades, Combat Ouvrier, that is Workers Combat), nationalist groups and unions. An "Appeal against Barbarism" was signed by a large number of people and well-known personalities.'

IN Guadeloupe you have many people who hate the foreigners especially the white french !
they hate they foreigners! they hate the dominican(your nation) and the DOMINICAN who are the citizen of the beautiful island of DOMINICA!
But all people in guadeloupe slept when a bad action are doing against the haitians like your countrymen accept that!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 15 Oct 2011 3:39 AM
From: Haiti
guillermo, vanganz

In your country according a report of services jesuites of refugier immigrant(SJRM). 1584 DOMINICANS DESCENDANT OF HAITIAN LOST their nationality of DOMINICA!
because a new resolution is invented by your government!
and because a new resolution all people who was legal in this country become illegal thank for your rule of sh*t! it's not normal in a country civilized to see that, i don't think unhappy the people are civilized to accept that! your people accept that, in guadeloupe and martinique, it was the case, like you can see in the article, the well know personalities and other group wake up for said it's a shame for our country to act like that!
you want the butter and the money of butter! I will encouraged our president to make pressure under your president. in 24 october the UN will invited LEONEL F. about the situation of the people who born in your country! they are dominicans and among a lot of the people, they was born before the revolution of shame
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 15 Oct 2011 3:41 AM
From: Haiti
NATIONALITY OF DOMINICAN, i would write!
Written by: poponlaburra, 15 Oct 2011 2:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
You see the dreams of all Haitians is to see Dominicans look like Haitians, aitians hate the truth that WE DOMINCANS HAVE TAINO, SPANISH AND OTHER NATIONALITIES BLOOD, THEY WANT US TO BE 100 % BLACK!

It has been the Haitian dream to make us all black, just listen to kiskeya wanttobe.
Written by: poponlaburra, 15 Oct 2011 2:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People
We most stop accepting Haitian pregnant women in our hospitals, how long we'll continue doing this?
We nned to send all the families of children who's parents were not residents, period.
Written by: poponlaburra, 15 Oct 2011 2:48 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Civil Rights and Peace Activist for Our Dominican People

Again, what the international community is doing is treating the Haitians like whey would treat any wild animal endangered (in this case endangered termites or locust). And should we blame the international community for doing this for they know the Haitians are incapable of self-sustaining themselves and will never will, the international community see Dominican superior to Haitians, they think we could bring Haitians out of the black whole the Haitians are in and will always be, and we should be proud as Dominicans that we can take care of our people and of the destitute and a=incapable Haitian people.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 16 Oct 2011 11:22 AM
From: Haiti
POPOM
Your country are not manage by the dominicans, don't forget that! DR is for the invest foreign!
the day cuba is not under the punishment of usa, all foreign invest will leave your dr!
And now we will talk ok?
You think according you it's because you have white blood you succeed!
it's not the colour of your skin who make your success ok?
you don't have nothing of TAINO BLOOD!
you are very naive like your countrymen for believe that!
your ancestor spaniard had killed all!
Written by: guillermone, 17 Oct 2011 10:39 AM
From: United States
Kman-Of all the islands in the Caribbean, the DR is the ONLY one who treats Haitians the best.

I will name a few to give you an example, Just ask how they are treated in the Bahammas, Turks & Caicos, Jamaica, Guadaloupe, Puerto Rico, St Thomas, Monseratt and forget Cuba. Because they go there also believe it or not.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 17 Oct 2011 2:31 PM
From: Haiti
guillermo
It's false! you know that. Stop to lie!
in the caribean, it's only in DR when they haitians children born in the foreign earth you don't want give theim the papers!
It's only in your home if true you are dominicans and not italians, you refuse to give the dominicans descendant of haitians who already had the papers you give it your nationality and after you decide to create a f*king resolution you decide to don't renewable their passports and other papers! and like that you have more illegals in the country and their own children become illegals( you have 1584 dominicans in this case)

you said 'the DR is the ONLY one who treats Haitians the best.' GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE!
you treat the haitians like slave in batey!
can you give me some exemple?


Now give me the good threat
Written by: guillermone, 17 Oct 2011 4:21 PM
From: United States
Kman-

The batey is miniscule, a tiny example of possible mistreatment of Haitians. But if you ask any one of them the Haitians, if they are willing to leave and go to Haiti, all of them prefer to stay and work in the Batey.

How about 2 million Hatians allowed to live and work taking jobs away from poor Dominicans.

How about all the free medical care and the hospitals full of pregnant haitian women giving birth.

How about the thousands of Haitian children allowed to receive free education while taking up limiting seating space away from and is suppose to be given to native Dominicans.

How about free breakfast for Haitian children attending public schools.

How about the University for Haiti, the Dominican gov't donated millions of dollars in money

How about the rescue work, the Dominican people were the first to respond during the Haitian earthquake and provided emergency services for the injured

IS THAT ENOUGH OR DO YOU WANT MORE. BECAUSE I HAVE MORE EXAMPLES
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 17 Oct 2011 5:16 PM
From: Haiti
'How about the University for Haiti, the Dominican gov't donated millions of dollars in money'
tell me the name of their university!
in this caribbean like guadeloupe and martinique the children who have haitians parents School is compulsory up to 16 years in these countries
'School is compulsory up to 16 years in these countries' Now more and more!

'How about the rescue work, the Dominican people were the first to respond during the Haitian earthquake and provided emergency services for the injured ' It was strategic and because the un told about the batey who give you a bad reputation it was the opportunities to show you are near the haitians but not a lot of time after you rebegin your real figure!
'How about all the free medical care and the hospitals full of pregnant haitian women giving birth'.
in the other isles, they don't leave the haitians in bad situation of health!

Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 17 Oct 2011 5:22 PM
From: Haiti
regarding to the batey, the great landowners do not want to let them go.who will cut the sugar cane? Certainly not you!
a lot of threat are doing against them! don't lie! it's a shame that batey exist, little or not!
update your knowledge, now in haiti the children begin to have three meal by day in school!
Now answer to me do you know a lot of dominicans are now without papers because your government create a f*ck resolution and now they refuse to renewable their passport and other papers?
ANSWER TO ME!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 17 Oct 2011 5:24 PM
From: Haiti
pompom and the others
we have now a new government, stop to speak about the past!
update your knowledge ok?
Written by: tunbagobierno, 17 Oct 2011 7:48 PM
From: United States
@pitiman

You're the ones that need to shut up about the past......that's where you've been your whole lives!

The whole world have moved on,but the Haitian people,(thanks to their mentality) have been stuck in a fantasy world back in the past.

And by the way stop calling the children of the illegal haitians dominicans,HAVE SOME PRIDE!

Written by: tunbagobierno, 17 Oct 2011 8:10 PM
From: United States
@THE-HAITIAN :

haitians love to paint distorted versions of reality.

When Aristide took over,he incited the haitian people to go on the streets to kill and pillage the richer haitians,business owners and the members of the ton ton macoutes.
Then he took off on a world tour,to expose the haitian misfortunes to the outside world,so the world would take pity on haiti ....and on the way (of course) started badmouthing the DR,by telling about how the big bad DOMINICANS WERE ENSLAVING HAITIANS.
He made sure to leave out that the haitians in the DR were voluntarily working on the sugarcane fields.
SO...BALAGUER,being the BAD ASS HE WAS SAID : "well,since we are "enslaving" his people the right thing to do is TO SEND THEM BACK" !
A massive deportation of haitians ensued and haiti and its wobbly economy could not take the influx of returning haitians,therefore collapsing to never recuperate.
So in a way,the Dominican gov.(indirectly) delivered the final blow to your fragile economy.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 17 Oct 2011 8:14 PM
From: United States
So....ARISTIDE IS THE ONE TO BLAME,for using lies to take advantage of the situation....and he did at the end,leaving you even in worse shape than before.

THEN GUESS WHO WAS DOING ALL THE CRYING..????.......exactly,as always.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 18 Oct 2011 1:42 PM
From: Haiti
tunbagobierno,
eh like usual you said always the same things! BLABLABLABLA
what do you think about your government who create a resolution 12/7?
By the resolution they make illegals the dominicans who are descendent of haitians!
What can you say about that?
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 18 Oct 2011 1:43 PM
From: Haiti
tunbagobierno,
You always try to change the topic!
Now answer to me do you know a lot of dominicans are now without papers because your government create a f*ck resolution and now they refuse to renewable their passport and other papers?
ANSWER TO ME!
Written by: guillermone, 18 Oct 2011 2:40 PM
From: United States
KMan-
you said 'the DR is the ONLY one who treats Haitians the best.' GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE!
you treat the haitians like slave in batey!
can you give me some exemple?

You ask for examples I gave it to you. OK

Haitians, take, take, take, take and give little back.
They dont pay taxes and send the money to Haiti.
Written by: guillermone, 18 Oct 2011 10:55 PM
From: United States
Kman-

Did you not read or were aware of an incident that occurred last year in the city of Santiago? The whole community was up in arms, organized themselves and had to forced all of the undocumented Haitians out of their neighborhoods ?

Prior to the occurrence, numerous complaits were made to the authorities about their disorderly conduct, over crowded, unsanitary, uncivil and grotesque living conditions. They were causing a lot of chaos and problems for the community and the residents could not stand it any longer.

Unfortunately, the people were ignored and the authorities simply did nothing. Faced with no other alternative, a final ultimatum was given to the Haitians, if they did not move, severe repercussions would be taken against them. They were given just enough time to pack-up and leave, thank God they did just that, decided to cooperate and left peacefully. Fortunately, the problem was resolved without resorting to violence and the communty returned back to normal.
Written by: guillermone, 18 Oct 2011 10:57 PM
From: United States
Tunbagobierno vamos a seguir dandole cuerda a ete loco..........El parece que coje cuerda facil.....
Written by: tunbagobierno, 18 Oct 2011 11:06 PM
From: United States
@pitiman:
You are the one dodging your way out of the topics,whenever confronted with the truth.

Now,learn this : Dominican Republic,is an AUTONOMOUS INDEPENDENT AND SOVEREIGN COUNTRY with its own laws,regulations,politics and culture.
Nobody...I repeat NOBODY (specially illegal immigrants like your people) has the right to come into this country and try to dictate whatever procedure it is to be enforced,regarding any immigration issue within the country.
We reserve the right to change or modify our laws,just as...

The Netherlands :

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1067418.html

The Bahamas :

http://www.thenassauguardian.com/....ce&catid=3:news&Itemid=27

Italy :

http://italian-immigration-law.blogspot.com/

Turks and Caicos :

http://tcipost.com/wordpress/?p=13888
Written by: tunbagobierno, 18 Oct 2011 11:08 PM
From: United States
China :

People's Republic of China is building a security barrier along its border with North Korea to prevent the defectors or refugees from North Korea.[82] Also, many immigrants from Mongolia have tried to make it to China. There might be as many as 200,000 Africans in Guangzhou, mostly illegal overstayers.[83] To encourage people to report foreigners living illegally in China, the police is giving a 100 RMB reward to whistleblowers whose information successfully leads to an expulsion.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 18 Oct 2011 11:14 PM
From: United States
Iran
Wikinews has related news: 46 illegal Afghan immigrants suffocate in truck in Pakistan
Since late April 2007, the Iranian government has forcibly deported back to Afghanistan mostly unregistered (and some registered) Afghans living and working in Iran at a rate between 250,000 - 300,000 per year. The forceful evictions of the refugees, who have lived in Iran and Pakistan for nearly three decades, are part of the two countries' larger plans to repatriate all Afghan refugees within a few years. Iran says it will send 1,000,000 by next March, and Pakistan announced that all 2,400,000 Afghan refugees, most living in camps, must return home by 2009. Experts[who?] say it will be 'disastrous' for Afghanistan
Written by: tunbagobierno, 18 Oct 2011 11:14 PM
From: United States
Angola :

In 2007 around 44,000 Congolese were forced to leave Angola.[66] Since 2004, more than 400,000 illegal immigrants, almost all from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, have been expelled from Angola.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 18 Oct 2011 11:16 PM
From: United States

Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia has begun construction of a separation barrier between its territory and Yemen to prevent the unauthorized movement of people and goods into and out of the kingdom. See Saudi-Yemen barrier.
In 2006 Saudi Arabia proposed plans for the construction of a security fence along the entire length of its 560-mile (900 km) desert border with Iraq in a multimillion-pound project to secure the kingdom's borders in order to improve internal security, control illegal immigration and bolster its defences against external threats
Written by: tunbagobierno, 18 Oct 2011 11:17 PM
From: United States

Venezuela
There are hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions of Colombian immigrants living in Venezuela.[145] In 1995, Venezuela announced plans to conduct a census to locate and deport illegal immigrants.[146] An estimated 200,000 Colombians have fled the Colombian Civil War and sought safety in Venezuela. Most of them lack identity documents and this hampers their access to services, as well as to the labor market. The Venezuelan government had no specific policies on refugees.
Written by: guillermone, 19 Oct 2011 2:35 PM
From: United States
Dessalines was a Racist!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 19 Oct 2011 6:28 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMONE AND TUNGABIENO
Let me tell you, it's too late for you! i waste my time with two maricones, in add you hate haitians, you are racist, dumb, narrow-minded! i think it's time to close the topic with you!
i never see in the site the most cowards, and maricones in the site! you are jewel
Written by: tunbagobierno, 19 Oct 2011 9:31 PM
From: United States
@kiskeyaman :

As always,you have NO ANSWER to these COLD,HARD FACTS..!

THERE YOU GO AGAIN,RUNNING AWAY WITH YOUR TAIL BETWEEN YOUR SKINNY AND ASHY LEGS!
Written by: guillermone, 19 Oct 2011 9:44 PM
From: United States
Ha, ha, ha, ha...............haaaaaaaaaaaa.........Yes I see him running like a chicken without a head.
Written by: guillermone, 19 Oct 2011 10:13 PM
From: United States
I am always puzzled by barely literate masisi fools like KMAN attempting to question our masculinity for the simple fact that they don't like the truth but don't have the intelligence to respond and therefore proceed to attack us personally.
Written by: the_haitian, 20 Oct 2011 4:59 AM
From: United States
@guiller you call dessaline a racist because he hated the whites, so are you saying he should love them. the biggest mass murderer in the world.enslave a whole race. kill millions of tainos who you said that you are part of ( spaniard,taino) because you have no black in you. stole land, kill languagee, rape women. no wonder you want truijillo( spell name wrong but dont care) back'. you are one of those when your master is sick you would say massa are we sick'. shame on you. no wonder dr is allways ready to give its freedom. that is why you kill one of your liberator' you know what go f...k yourself
Written by: guillermone, 20 Oct 2011 2:44 PM
From: United States
the_haitian-You just did what Kman is doing, failed to address the issue in a civilized manner. If you wish to debate the topic properly and convey your defense in an effective and positive manner, I suggest you refrain from personal attacks. It just makes you look BAD and further gives a bad name to your people.
Written by: the_haitian, 20 Oct 2011 4:36 PM
From: United States
@ guill how. Do you expect me to behave when you make that statement (DESSALINE WAS A RACIST ) you of all ppl know the history behind the revolution. Yes you are right I should not attack you personally for that I am sorry but everything else I said I would keep
Written by: the_haitian, 20 Oct 2011 4:39 PM
From: United States
@ guill how. Do you expect me to behave when you make that statement (DESSALINE WAS A RACIST ) you of all ppl know the history behind the revolution. Yes you are right I should not attack you personally for that I am sorry but everything else I said I would keep
Written by: guillermone, 21 Oct 2011 12:34 PM
From: United States
Let us attack the issues and the best way to reach some sort of ideological consortium of thought.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 22 Oct 2011 2:42 PM
From: United States
@guillermone :

Como decimos allá : Le dí por el "yunke".LOL!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 22 Oct 2011 5:52 PM
From: Haiti
tugovierno

'''As always,you have NO ANSWER to these COLD,HARD FACTS..!'
what hard facts? a lot of craps you said and you talk about facts? DESSALINES WAS A RACIST,?
AND YOUR BASTARDS? your ancestor spaniard WHO KILL all tainos, rape women, kill children, kill several millions of people! bring disease in the world!

'THERE YOU GO AGAIN,RUNNING AWAY WITH YOUR TAIL BETWEEN YOUR SKINNY AND ASHY LEGS!'
me i have a tail i don't think it's your case! you are a desesperate case, i am only who think that! even dreadlock think that!

i don't expect more from you, you are a fuc*k guys! and i prefer give up! it's too late for you! and your boy guillermo the italian
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 22 Oct 2011 5:57 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO
All persons know your job in usa!
poor maricones, you are frustred because you know the haitians don't take part in your deal!
i know you have a spirit tortured, it's not the fault of haitian!
band of crap, i give you an advise, take a rope, and go to hang up yourself!
guillermo i am sure you are a f*cking italian who know DR!
nino de puta
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 22 Oct 2011 6:08 PM
From: Haiti
the HAITIANO
Why you Write you are sorry to the great crap racist is guillermone?
don't lost your time with the two maricones!
those two guys are frustrated!
they guys are very bad, they have spaniard blood and they hate the blacks people!
the hate haitians, they are racists, don't educated, don't civilized, and the must come back in DR for see the reality!
why they don't come in DR? if they love so DR?
don't have any respect for the guys, they two cowards! who stays in USA!
Written by: guillermone, 22 Oct 2011 8:09 PM
From: United States
I have an international business Kman and fly back and forth to the US and DR. I use to go to Haiti before to do business. But you people want everything for free and Haitian don't want Le Blanc to make money.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 23 Oct 2011 3:39 PM
From: Haiti
Guillermo
you know if you don't do business if certainly because your products are not good! and i am sure if you cannot succeed it's before the white haitians don't want make business with you!
All white,we come in haiti become rich,the people who come from chili make a lot of money in haiti, voila it's a manage by some french white, his enterprise make a lot of money, DIGICEL make a lot of money meanwhile those enterprise is manage by some whites people, what hell white you talk me? Haiti have a lot of white people who make business and soon we will see a lot of business man who going make their enterprise here!
even the yellow people like KOREAN SOUTH will create an enterpris who give 50 000 works in the norths of haiti!
Don't talk to me about white people, they make a lot of money in haiti and a lot haitians works for them!
try to know why your business don't walk in haiti! it's not because the haitians want all free neither you are white!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 23 Oct 2011 6:18 PM
From: United States
@pitiman :

What about your rantings about the foreign investments in the DR?
Isn't it bad as you've ranted before?
OOOOHH...I get it,FOREIGN INVESTMENTS are bad,unless....THEY ARE MADE IN HAITI!

That's why I enjoy your comments,you always end up stepping on dog sh..t then sticking your foot in your mouth.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 23 Oct 2011 6:22 PM
From: United States
...And by the way, at least the_haitian (unlike you) is so far keeping some level of integrity while debating.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 23 Oct 2011 6:33 PM
From: Haiti
tungaman
as usual your comments are neither head nor tail, all what you say has no value for me and for many people on this site! you are far from neutral, and I'm not the only one who have crossed swords with you! anything from a dominicain as stupid as you!
Yes you are very stupid if you can not understand that your dr is not your dr but the dr of the foreign invest! a lot of illusions of developpments are spread in those eyes of DR. But everyone knows that the money of tourism back to foreign investors! And why a lot of dominicans leave dr? If you have an paradise why many and many dominicans try to leave DR? because in DR, the life is not easy, most of you live in usa, but you have a loud mouth then you don't know the reality of the dominicans who live in dr! tunga you have a loudmouth but you put your big ass in usa. DR is ill and a lot of law racist are made in this isle! when USA will stop his embargo, a lot of foreign invest will leave DR! Who are willing to bet that?
Written by: guillermone, 23 Oct 2011 11:54 PM
From: United States
Le blanc is going to get your booty.................Kakman
Written by: guillermone, 24 Oct 2011 10:45 PM
From: United States
Kakman is a Masisi..............
Written by: tunbagobierno, 25 Oct 2011 8:37 PM
From: United States
@pitiman and whoever is doing the typing for him.

First of all My comments are indeed VERY VALUABLE to any proud Dominican on this site!
It is worth my own weight IN SOLID GOLD!
You have NO POINTS,just rants and insults whenever you get slapped upside the head with reality!

Second : We have foreign and LOCAL INVESTMENTS ....you have NEITHER.

Third ,Some Dominicans leave,just like any other population on earth..BUT WE ALWAYS COMEBACK TO OUR LAND....unlike you,WE HAVE A PLACE TO RETURN!

Once your people leave Haiti,they don't want to return and that's a fact!
Written by: tunbagobierno, 25 Oct 2011 8:47 PM
From: United States
Fourth : You don't make any sense,you should get a recording device and record yourself to then play it back,so you could learn how an IDIOT SOUNDS LIKE!

You've ranted about how "Dominicans spray chemicals on your crops" and that's why you can't grow anything,Do you even know how idiotic YOU SOUND?....I got the real answer to your problem :....DEFORESTATION..!!!...GET IT?....DEFORESTATION!!!

And can you please elaborate on those "RACIST LAWS" in the Dominican,please?

Embargo?...What embargo are you talking about..?...Man you're all over the place..

And by the way,regarding where I live : I HAVE THE LUXURY OF LIVING ON BOTH COUNTRIES (DR and US),CAPISCE?



Written by: tunbagobierno, 25 Oct 2011 8:57 PM
From: United States
And last : Get a LIFE,this site is called DOMINICAN TODAY,not haitian today.

You mean to tell me that there aren't any online news sites from haiti?
YOU ARE PATHETIC AND TORTURED SOULS,LONGING FOR THE DR.

This country has never been yours and never will be.

Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Nov 2011 7:56 PM
From: Haiti
tungaman
YOU WROTE A LOT OF CRAPS, I DON't any time to answer your shits! You must learn to read! i have the means to travel around the world without problem, but i prefer live in my country because i want help my country, a lot of HAITIANS come back to help since the last eartquake!
you must stop to take drug, it's not good for you! you can tell what you want but i stay in the site to tell the persons in the site that haiti is not all you hear in the newspaper!
I am here to denounce the bad politic who lead your country against the dominicans who have some descendant of haiti! you have the same problems like haiti, you have a lot of persons who begin to cut the trees in dr, you have the problem of flood, you have a lot of children dominicans who work like a lot of slave, don't believe all your DR ARE VERY POOR, and the politic is to make rich some invest foreign!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Nov 2011 8:07 PM
From: Haiti
i don't think it's me who have tortured soul, the spaniard don't leave to the haitians some drugs for believe they are indians.
if you are so happy to have some ancestors spaniards, why you don't stay spaniard?
THE SPANIARD don't care about the dominicans, when i go to spain the dominicans close their mouth, and they feel lower to the spaniards!

in this time the dominicans have two great jobs, they sell some drugs and the prostitutions!
and is a fact, why you don't try to help your fellow dominicans inspite to annoying your soul with haiti?
SEEK A LIFE, if you are so proud to be dominicans why you don't return to your paradise?
AHAHAAHHAHAHAAHA LOUDMOUTH AND NOTHING BEHIND!
ALL HAITIANS COME BACK IN HAITI, you are so idiot it's not my fault if i show your little level!!!!!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 4 Nov 2011 8:14 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLOMOne the rital
as usual, you have no arguments and thus you prefer insult me ??because you see I am telling the truth.
but coming from you it's not a surprise, you're stupid, you idiot and you will die stupid it's maybe thanks to that, the Haitians refused your shits products and not because you are white (maybe white in your head for that matter)
Written by: guillermone, 5 Nov 2011 10:52 PM
From: United States
Kakaman talking to you in a serious manner is a waste of time, I tried but you started to talk a lot of senseless crap. You were the perfect example of what is the use. So I decided to go down to your level and get myself dirty with your poopoo. I just hope I can wash and clean up and take the smell away.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 6 Nov 2011 4:00 PM
From: United States
Guillermone :

Cuyayaman is just the comic relief on this pages,that's all.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 6 Nov 2011 7:01 PM
From: Haiti
they idiots of the village(tungaman, and the rital guillermone)
I am tired to talk with you! you are the most stupid guys of the earth!
i think the case is lost! you are two losts guys, you are against the truth!
two idiots who think in his soul they are intelligent but you are so dumb and so shabby!
the rital begin by wash your ass and your mouth, i think the smell don't have any difference!
and your boy tungaman who think he is a dominican, is the great clown of the village.
you make a great team of idiots and maricones!
Written by: guillermone, 7 Nov 2011 1:02 PM
From: United States
Kakaman is a Masisi devègonde.............!!!!!!

Dan bounda ou !!!!

Ou santi kaka !!!!
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 7 Nov 2011 3:29 PM
From: Haiti
GUILLERMO
You are a pathetic idiot!
i have a rope, now i think you are ready to hang yourself!
Written by: guillermone, 7 Nov 2011 3:35 PM
From: United States
Ha, Ha, haaaaaa !!!!!
Written by: the_haitian, 7 Nov 2011 10:54 PM
From: United States
@ tunb. Why are you cursing @ kiskey? why must you use foul language? Debate
Written by: tunbagobierno, 7 Nov 2011 11:27 PM
From: United States
@the_haitian

When did I curse?
And besides Kiskeyaman was the first one to curse and call people names.
He's a Buffoon.
Written by: KISKEYAMAN, 8 Nov 2011 7:27 PM
From: Haiti
TUNGA AKA
I think you are already cursed. i never saw a narrow-minded person like this ugly man.
and you are more buffoon than me.
Written by: tunbagobierno, 8 Nov 2011 10:43 PM
From: United States
@cuyayaman

Only a "pití" like you,a believer in voodoo is bound to be cursed.
Is hilarious how a rambling idiot with such a backward mentality calls anybody narrow minded,when he can't even differentiate reality from fantasy.

An ugly creature like you shouldn't be calling another person ugly.
You're SO UGLY that when you were born the haitian midwife slapped you on the face instead of your butt,because she couldn't tell the difference.

When she realized her mistake, she then, went ahead and slapped YOUR MOM for giving birth to such and ugly baby like you..!!! HA-HA-HA-HAA..!!
Written by: the_haitian, 8 Nov 2011 11:36 PM
From: United States
@ kiskey. Being that you are. Haitian and you are my brother I got your back on that one.you can respond but no cursing. I gtot you ok
Written by: guillermone, 9 Nov 2011 2:24 PM
From: United States
Talk to the Kman......please !!!!

Knock some sense into him...for Christ Sake.........!!!!
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