Insultingly Ironic!

Congratulations. Buy possibly they are the only 5 students that know how to read.

How did they accomplish this since most schools are only open for 4 hours per day?

Excellent example for our youth to follow. And just think if a universal education system with good oversight and penalties for parents who don't send their children to school would produce? But with 2% of GDP, it's simply not possible.

I guess these Dominicans like to drink from the vitamin filled waters of enlightenment. Some people, however, don't think so. They claim all Dominicans want to do is listen to loud music, get drunk, and go whoring all the time.

There are many Dominican children who would, having better opportunities, do as these wonderful children have done: make our country proud with their commitment to an academic and life enriching example for all to follow.

Kudos to these young people and those adults who helped them accomplish their goal.

KUDOS ... These young kids have worked incredibly hard to build a remarkable educational achievement of leadership and commitment. These kids also reflect certain qualities you want to have for yourself too.

There are plenty of kids that know how to read. Get out of the barrios!

Kudos to the TEACHER... now there is one teacher that should stand up and the people in this community applaud their work. A good example for other students and teachers....

Oh and look there is Mrs Scissorhands but no ribbon to cut...

Were they actually reading and comprehending, or faking it by staring at a book and occasionally turning a page?
This country could set a record for reading the least.

Reading is the path to prosperity ... congratulations to the students who accomplished this and most certainly a well done is deserved to the teachers and others who inspired the students to this achievement ...

what does firs mean???
lmao

This stupid event has nothing to do with learning or academic achievement. It is about getting in the Guinness Book of Records for its own sake, like sticking the most number of pins through your tongue, or drinking the most beer in 60 seconds. Such a pointless exercise does nothing to alleviate this country's abysmal literacy rate.

RoyStone,
Who appointed you Tetrarch of Truth?

"Written by: RoyStone, 18 Jan 2012 3:46 PM
From: Australia
Were they actually reading and comprehending, or faking it by staring at a book and occasionally turning a page?
This country could set a record for reading the least."

You talk too much smack for coming from Australia, a country known for obnoxious, beer drinking idiots.

Australia is home to one of the dumbest people in the world, with one of the lowest IQs found all around. Yes they do have one of the highest Human Development Indexes (HDI) in the world (I guess you have to thank the few smart ones out there running your country)

The Good
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_development_index

The Bad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AverageIQ-Map-World.png

An Aussies Take and Forum:
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091117043816AAX9oFC

By the way, this last link has yet another example of what I mentioned to you in the past that Australians are prejudice towards foreigners.

For coming from Australia, a country known for obnoxious, beer drinking idiots.
now that is funny... considering the topic and the thread that's at 180 odd posts about education.... Why is it Dominican have so much trouble getting a visa to Spain, Holland, USA, mmm pretty much any where????

What was the Nobel prize number again Roy...??

one for dready
http://simon.forsyth.net/olympics.html

If it takes an IQ of 60 to tie shoelaces, why do so many Australians wear thongs?

While waiting to finalise their Australian residental status, two Afghanistani men start chatting. As they part, they agree to meet in a years time and see who has adapted better to the Australian way of life.
True to their word, they meet after the year is up. The first says to the second "We have integrated so well...yesterday, I ate a meat pie and drank a VB while watching my son play Aussie rules"
The second man replies "F**k off, towelhead"

Yes, (self)loving-git, if Dominicans are smarter, nicer and better than Australians, why is Dominican -

Literacy rate much lower
Crime rate much higher
GDP much lower
Employment rate much lower
No Nobel Prizewinners
Murder rate much higher
Road-deaths much higher
Religious superstition much higher
Unwanted pregnancy rate much higher
Underage pregnancy rate much higher
Lifestyle-related disease and death much higher
Performance at sport much lower
Pollution of environment much higher
Corruption much higher
Xenophobia much higher
Plummeting currency
More Obesity
No world-class musicians
No notable architecture
Almost no respect for the law

Do I need to quote the figures?

Jamaica has a long history in track and field/athletics. Before receiving its independence in 1962, Jamaican athletes, as part of the British empire participated in the Olympics. They have had a long line of athletes from Herb Mckinley (1932 ), Merlene Ottey, James Beckford, Sandy Richards (and btw Sanya Richards was born in Jamaica and is now a naturalized American) Juliert Cuthbert, just to name a few.

Bolt is king and will, if healthy and a decent start to his races, win more gold in London.

Yes, Stillhere: one for Dready. :)

Now, Dready, that looks like an olive-branch gesture from Atabey.
Are you going to accept it gracefully? (go on - we won't think you're getting soft)

Here's some more Guinness World Records that maybe the Dominican Republic could go for:

Farthest Squirting of Milk from the Eye

This honor goes to Ilker Yilmaz of Turkey, who in 2004 squirted milk from his eye at a record-breaking distance of 9 feet, 2 inches. I don’t know how one squirts milk from one’s eye anyway, so I don’t really know if this is impressive or not. It’s just weird.

Largest Collection of Barf Bags

Now, this is impressive. Niek Vermeulen of the Netherlands has amassed a collection of 5568 airline sick bags. That’s an unusual thing to collect and those are rather hard to get ahold of — you can’t just pop down to the local Walmart to get one.

Largest Collection of ‘Do Not Disturb Signs’

Meet Jean-François Vernetti of Switzerland. He has collected 8888 different hotel ‘do not disturb’ signs. He looks like a happy chap. Do you think he and Niek Vermeulen are Facebook friends? I feel like they would really get along.

lovingit, here's one you could get in the Guinness Book of World Records if you put your mind to it:

Most Snails on Face

Fin Keheler, age 11, of Sandy, Utah, covered his face with 43 live snails. Apparently this broke a previous record.

Josean, maybe you would like to nominate Leo for a few Guinness Work Records?

How about president who spent the most days overseas when in office?

(A good ribbon-cutting opportunity of King and Queen Fernandez together?)

Roy,

They had to read out loud, and yes, some Dominicans know how to read. Im sorry if that comes as a shocker to you.

We should also note that this "group" are from a private school not a public one..........
As My wife works with one of the kids mums.....

Why do so many Australian men suffer premature ejaculation? Because they have to rush back to the pub to tell their mates!

What's the difference between a G-Spot and a golf ball? An Australian man will actually search for a golf ball.

Aussies: Dislike being mistaken for Pommies (Brits) when abroad.
Canadians: Are rather indignant about being mistaken for Americans when abroad.
Americans: Encourage being mistaken for Canadians when abroad.
Brits: Can't possibly be mistaken for anyone else when abroad.

Q: How do you know if you're a bogan?
A: You let your 15 year old daughter smoke at the dinner table
...in front of her kids.

Written by: RoyStone, 18 Jan 2012 5:52 PM
From: Australia
This stupid event has nothing to do with learning or academic achievement. It is about getting in the Guinness Book of Records for its own sake, like sticking the most number of pins through your tongue, or drinking the most beer in 60 seconds. Such a pointless exercise does nothing to alleviate this country's abysmal literacy rate.

Roy has a point here. it is not as if these kids won a spelling bee, or some academic event. it was a stunt, plain and simple, which, incidentally, has an academic component. it is, by no stretch of the imagination, and academic achievement.

stillhere,
Great stuff, keep them coming!

Written by: RoyStone, 18 Jan 2012 9:30 PM
From: Australia
Now, Dready, that looks like an olive-branch gesture from Atabey.
Are you going to accept it gracefully? (go on - we won't think you're getting soft)

that is only for appearances, so he can call upon it as proof that he is the one who wanted to end the feud, and i was unreceptive. what you need to do is to go into the obscure threads he opens, or follows, and you will see where he wastes no time in trashing me. the guy is good. you have to hand it to him. he was born for that lifestyle. you cannot learn it.

TorresRamirez,
Thank you for the clarification. I take back what I said, it is a remarkable achievement - not the reading bit, but the speaking non-stop for 365 hours bit. Speaking $hit non-stop for hours? Yes, definitely a Dominican attribute.

In the interests of balance, I will add there are 2 world-class things this country has - a beautiful natural environment, and beautiful women, (and both are treated like $hit).

Written by: dreadlocks, 19 Jan 2012 7:13 AM
From: United States
Written by: RoyStone, 18 Jan 2012 9:30 PM

Now, Dready, that looks like an olive-branch gesture from Atabey.
Are you going to accept it gracefully? (go on - we won't think you're getting soft)

that is only for appearances, so he can call upon it as proof that he is the one who wanted to end the feud, and i was unreceptive. what you need to do is to go into the obscure threads he opens, or follows, and you will see where he wastes no time in trashing me. the guy is good. you have to hand it to him. he was born for that lifestyle. you cannot learn it."

Roy,

Have you Checked out the Bio-fuel possibilities on the Forum section?

RE: Want Cheap Biofuel? A Startup Makes It with Natural Gas Is this doable for DR?

If Dready accepted my offer from above, Jamaican Gold, we might agree to disagree without all the fuss. But I think he secretly likes it this way.

But the offer remains on the table

Maybe we can all make nominations for this country for the Guinness Book of World Records?

How about the biggest, loudest sound-system in a small bar?
What about the most PET bottles per square meter on a beach?
Most people on a motorbike, going the wrong way down a one-way street without lights at night?
The most SUVs in ear-shot of each other, blasting different music (I use the term in its broadest sense) at maximum volume?

they claim all dominicans want to do is listen to loud music, get drunk, and go whoring all the time.
think your going way too fast i know u mean well but,

their way many dominicans that yes love to blast their music {without respect for others} get drunk sh...t u hit a home run on that guy, the whoring? s....t if the men world leave the young ladies grow up {not trying to nail them when they are 11-12y old then maybe the whoring business would slow down. [ few kids read a book and now the dr is one one great nation? please u have a long road to travel for that my friend.

You know some Roy Stone what exactly are your ties to the DR that you make so many comments about it and what do you do in the DR or are just an instigator co-oper who goes from site to site making comments because you probably don't have a life or are you just an anglowasp exploiting profiteer who is has chosen he DR to make your fortune and return to the land of down under forget not accepting people from other countries they don't even acknowledge the original Australians aka aboriginiese.

dread says;

"it was a stunt, plain and simple,"

So was the METRO!

It’s all about show, "bulto" propaganda to divert people’s attention from the real needs and priority of the country.

The Purple Ones are taking IT on the Chin for violating the law for 8 years and ripping off the Dominican Children from the educational constitutional mandated 4%. The 4% movement brought this to the attention of the international community.

So what do the MACHIAVELLIAN Purple Ones do; they come with this stunt to counter attack the negative publicity.

I am sure that these are good students and excellent readers, as well I am sure there are many more, but the facts remains that they are but a drop in the bucket compared to abysmal educational system we have in the republic. These criminals have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to improve our educational advancement in the 12 years of the DARK AGE they have governed.

Continued:

This is nothing more than Purple Smoke and Mirrors, like the tunnels, the over passes and the METRO, that the Dominican Merlin aka, Lie-onel the Wizard, has conjured up!

They are just like junk food sugar highs; after a little while you are hungry again.

I just feel sorry that these young people were used and manipulated this way for this Purple PR stunt!

If Dready accepted my offer from above, Jamaican Gold, we might agree to disagree without all the fuss. But I think he secretly likes it this way.

But the offer remains on the table

i have no interest in making any agreements with you. my circle of friends have suggested that any unpleasantries i experience in dealing with you , are my fault, by stooping low enough to engage you. water finds its own level, and i should always remember that. so, Atabey, save your olive branch. don't want it. i only make gentlemen's agreements with gentlemen. savages need not apply.

mrtibes,
Your assumptions about my motives are just as inaccurate and misinformed as your statement about Australian Aborigines. Remind me - what happened to the Tainos? Australian Aborigines were almost extinct before British settlement. Their numbers and fortunes have increased exponentially since then. They were never enslaved, or forced to pay tributes, on threat of having their hands chopped off, or burned at the stake, as your ancestors did to the indigenous populations of this island.

So Australians don't accept foreigners? Maybe you should check how many immigrants to Australia have won the Australian of the Year award, and the government's multiculturalism policies.
If you want to see a xenophobe, then maybe look in the mirror, as you badmouth foreigners.

Now Roy see what I have to deal with in Dready? Well at least his output can be put to good use:

Check out
RE: Want Cheap Biofuel? A Startup Makes It with Natural Gas Is this doable for DR?

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/....es-It-with-Natural-Gas-Is-this-do

yumnuk3,
Sorry, how rude of me - I didn't answer you your question.
It was Herod.
By the way, do you even know what a tetrach is?

Chris1010, asks "what does firs mean?"
It means DT does not proof-read their articles, or it is the way lazy Dominicans pronounce "first".
Droppin oh th ends o words s commoh, have you noh noticed?

Written by: stillhere, 18 Jan 2012 7:16 PM
From: Dominican Republic
"Why is it Dominican have so much trouble getting a visa to Spain, Holland, USA, mmm pretty much any where????

Hey fool, please get facts before you write idiocies such as that. The DR is one of the countries that receives the MOST tourist Visas in the World.

Here are some numbers to back that up for U.S. Tourist visas:
http://immigrationroad.com/visa/b....b1-b2-visitor-visa-statistics.php

Given the population of the DR compared to the other top countries, the Visa to population rate in DR is among the highest period!

By the way, you may not see that DR participates on Immigrant Visa lotteries in the US., you know why? because the US already processes these for DR at a high priority. Nowadays a US Citizen, and even a Green Card holder brings over their wife or minor children on an immigrant visa in an average of 9 months (sooner if not an immigrant visa).

"Written by: RoyStone, 18 Jan 2012 9:04 PM
From: Australia
Yes, (self)loving-git, if Dominicans are smarter, nicer and better than Australians, why is Dominican -"

Then Roy goes on with a list of things some of which are true and some of which are disgusting lies.

Thank you Roy for responding with that. It just shows goes to show how fu^king stupid you are!!!

IQ and the things you mentioned have NOTHING to do with each other. Just because you have the MENTAL CAPABILITY it does not mean you have the AVAILABILITY. Unfortunately the DR does not offer all of it's citizens the ABILITY to be the best that they could be and that is something that needs to change. Many of the things you mentioned are attributed to poor education, and it does not matter how high your IQ is, using literacy as an example if you are not taught how to read, you will not learn, or learn it properly.

...cont

lovingit,
Which are the "disgusting lies"?

For your convenience (since you used yourr multiple aliases to grey it out), here's the list again:
Literacy rate much lower
Crime rate much higher
GDP much lower
Employment rate much lower
No Nobel Prizewinners
Murder rate much higher
Road-deaths much higher
Religious superstition much higher
Unwanted pregnancy rate much higher
Underage pregnancy rate much higher
Lifestyle-related disease and death much higher
Performance at sport much lower
Pollution of environment much higher
Corruption much higher
Xenophobia much higher
Plummeting currency
More Obesity
No world-class musicians
No notable architecture
Almost no respect for the law

..cont

You then go into Music, Sports,etc. Australians are like monkeys that all they do mimic the U.S. and the UK with music, shows, etc. What do you guys listen to and your artists play? Rock and Roll, R&B, Pop.. nothing any Australian invented!!! The only things that comes to mind (if you are English speaking) when it comes to Australian musicians is AC/DC, and as I said, they play music stolen from other countries.

Dominicans on the other hand invented Merengue, Bachata, and although it is more associated with Puerto Rico, the father of Salsa "Johny Pacheco" is a Dominican! These rhythms are known throughout the world, especially the Latin based world. (Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian) Latin based people anywhere in the world that hears a Bachata or Merengue undoubtedly associate it with DR. English speakers not as much because they cannot differentiate (without prior knowledge) between any rhythmic based Latin music.

What music makes anyone think of Australia?

... Cont.. Roy, you are a JOKE!!!

When a government minister and the 1st lady jump in to receive an award for a cheap Guinness Book of World Records stunt, and to announce it as "worthy of admiration and respect to give that record to the country” shows how devoid this country is of anything worthy of world recognition.

Prove me wrong with examples if you can. Otherwise prove me right with more insults and grey-outs.

@Roy

Oh My.. you went ahead and re-posted your long list of garbage even though they have nothing to do with IQ as I explained earlier... you really are a DUMB FU^K!!!!!

and, btw.. no I don't use other aliases here.

Dominican music? When Pacheco was 11, his family moved to New York City.
Ha ha ha!
About as Dominican as the American band, Aventura!

Merengue - ahh yes, walking on the spot calling it dancing, and music (I use the word in it's broadest sense - 1 bar each of dominant and tonic chords, repeated ad-nausium) even more boring than Bachata promoted by the intellectual and cultural giant, Rafael Trujillo.

Yes, Salsa is popular around the world - but never associated with the Dominican Republic. So what Portuguese-speaking country is Dominican music played? I have spent many months all over Brazil and never heard it. Why would a country that invented Samba, Bosa Nova, Farro, etc, ever listen to Bachata? As for Merengue, that is as much Haitian, Cuban as Dominican.

"Written by: RoyStone, 20 Jan 2012 5:22 PM
From: Australia
Dominican music? When Pacheco was 11, his family moved to New York City."

Roy - which is why I mentioned that the music is probably more associated with Puerto Rico, but I guess you can read, but not comprehend... the point is that a Dominican combined the rhythms of Cuba, added a mix, and made it into it's own genre.

"About as Dominican as the American band, Aventura!"
Roy - Is still Bachata!!!, a Dominican music and that is what comes to people's mind when they hear it (DR) ,unlike AC/DC who played Rock & Roll, an U.S based genre.

Answer the question, what music makes you think of Australia? NONE you bozo!

According to Wikipedia:
"Salsa is a mixture of African and Spanish music, filtered through the musical history of Cuba, and adapted by Latin jazz and Latin popular musicians for Latino populations, especially Puerto Ricans with diverse musical tastes."

Dominican?
"..salsa is and always had been Cuban Music."
says who?
Johnny Pacheco
Ha ha ha!

Dominicans on the other hand invented Merengue, Bachata.... really??? so you have never really heard any world music... ever heard any West African Music.... I think your talking out you ass.... again.... and where did rock and roll come from??? mmmm blues.. that came from the African slaves tribal singing.. the only original American music is ????? Yes that right JASS...
But even that came from Blues music... To say anyone came up with the a original style is just CRAP.... Unless it was you as a caveman danging on a log.... mmmm

Roy you FREAKING IDIOT,

You keep missing the point. The point is that a DOMINICAN was the one who put the mixture together of the Cuban rhythm to create it's own genre which today is today known as salsa. I am not denying that it was originally Cuban, nor I ever did if you comprehend my posts.

As for aliases.. now I am thinking that you and stillhere are the same person.

My point is that Dominicans have created or contributed to create a new music genres
Australians cannot say that they have invented a genre that is internationally known.

By the way the African Slaves that invented the blues (from where Rock and Roll was then born) though they were slaves, they were AMERICANS you BUNCH of IDIOTS! Like Salsa was born from other music, so was Rock and Roll, but they it was still AMERICANS who invented it!

knock knock.. Do you have any gray matter? or do you two have two little cockroaches playing ping pong in your heads?

So how many genres does Rock and roll have or should I say blues..... the same as Salsa????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Genealogy_cuban_music.png

Yes Australia was a British colony and the only language is English... So it musical influences are English speaking Countries... and only being 200 hundred odd years old compared to the 400 odd of here... and the DR music influences are Spanish speaking countries... Right???

I love fishing ... I get a bite very time...

stillhere asks

. and the DR music influences are Spanish speaking countries... Right???

unless you add in the current rave, reggaeton, whose roots come from Jamaica.

lovingit, when it comes to music, you are way, way out of your depth, so I suggest to hang on to your water-wings and dog-paddle back to the edge of the pool, and head for the kiddie-pool.

The reality is, the Dominican Republic has never "invented" any music genera. As Stillhere tried to explain, musical styles evolve over time from a range of influences, they are not invented.

Still if you want to hear something distinctly Australian, listen to Aboriginal Corroboree music, far more distinctive than anything in the Dominican Republic. This has been blended with western music too, by bands like Yothu Yindi. Not good music in my opinion, but neither is Bachata or Merengue.

The relevant thing here is, Dominican vs Australian contribution to music. Your opinion and mine are irrelevant here. The only definitive measure is the number of world-wide hits. In that regard, the Dominican Republic does not even come close to Australia.

stillhere,
I have to disagree with you about the extent of English-speaking music's influence on Australian music. One of the world's most distinctive and famous architectural works, the Sydney Opera House, and the Australian Opera Company are definitely world-class. Yet most opera is not sung in English.

I particularly like Australian orchestra's interpretation of the great Russian composers, Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky etc.

My town, Melbourne, has a thriving live Latin music scene, with more Salsa (Colombian), Samba (Brazilian), Reggae (Jamaican), etc bands than the entire Dominican Republic. No Bachata to my knowledge, but no loss. Capoeira (Brazilian) groups are springing up everywhere too.

@Roy

You know how to use the internet right? Look it up for yourself in youtube or so, Bachata in Portugal, Brazil. Do you need hand holding for everything?

Heck here is some help, a Bachata in Portuguese:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrzSPUY11XE

Look, and you'll even find it in non Latin countries too, such as Russia, Japan, Germany, etc. One of my friends from Poland actually told me that one of Aventura's Bachata was a great hit over there, he though being Polish (like English speakers see my post) was not really able to differentiate the Latin rhythm so he couldn't really associate it with DR back then (I explained that on my post Written by: lovingit, 20 Jan 2012 5:13 PM) but when I played once, he was like OMG, that was a hit in Poland, and now he could tell the difference between Latin rhythms (Salsa, Mambo, Bachata, Merengue, Mexican styles, etc)

..cont

...cont


Oh, and leave the indigenous music out of this.. we are talking about internationally known genres.. there many other genres in DR like Mangulina, Palos, etc, that are just really known inside the DR, so pleeeeease don't even begin with those.


As for world wide hits coming out of Australia, could you please share the list? How may Grammy Award winners do you have?

So Bachata is big in Portugal and Brazil? Have you ever been there? It sure ain't big in Brazil. So someone made clip in Portuguese? Well that makes Scottish Highland Dancing big in the Egypt too, then!

You want to leave indigenous music out? Why? Oh that's right - there is no Dominican indigenous music, because there are no indigenous Dominicans - your ancestors exterminated then all hundreds of years ago!

Oh, so the popularity of Australian artists worldwide, as evidenced by massive record sales and charts don't count - its only Grammy's that matter.
Sad!

@Roy

Did I ever say Bachata was big in Brazil and Portugal? No I just said it is a known genre that people know to associate with DR

You still avoid answering the questions about what worldwide hits came of Australia and/or what internationally known music genre makes you think of Australia? See, I know to give credit where it is deserved. Australia has many great internationally known actors, but internationally known musicians? not so much, and especially not any internationally known music genres that makes you go "Ah, Australian music" whether the artist is known or not.

... cont

@Roy

cont...

I say leave indigenous music out because we are talking about internationally known music genres (Dumb as$) but you know, I am wasting my time, you seem to have extreme difficulty in comprehending what you read, especially since I clearly stated that as well as other things I have written here on previous posts. I am not sure if its possible to paint the picture clearer than what I already have. Your lack of comprehension is living proof that Australians do have some of the lowest average IQs in the world... there are a lot of smart Australians out there, but you my friend, fall within the average of the low IQs, either that, or your mom dropped you on your head as a baby

Please do Australians a favor and stop writing so that you could avoid further EMBARRASSMENT for your compatriots.

Lovin-git,
I do not disagree with you due to any failure in comprehension on my behalf. I disagree because you are simply wrong. You made a generalization criticizing Australian intelligence and behavior, thus:

"Australia, a country known for obnoxious, beer drinking idiots"

In reality and worldwide reputation, the opposite is the case, and I made a substantial (but incomplete) list of areas where Australians are smarter, outperform and behave better than Dominicans. You have not managed to disprove a single item on the list.

It seems to me your ignorance, prejudice and misplaced arrogance is based on the fact you have never lived anywhere outside the Dominican Republic or some Dominican Diaspora in USA. I doubt you have ever been to Australia, or Brazil which you claim knowledge of.

The point of my original comment was that the attention given to this silly Guinness Book of Records stunt shows how desperate Dominicans are to delude themselves they have a smart country.

nd now he could tell the difference between Latin rhythms (Salsa, Mambo, Bachata, Merengue, Mexican styles, etc)


lovingit, bachata is NOT a latin rhythm. i have been dancing the same three step beat since i was a child. i will have to agree with Roy that it might be an evolutionary genre here, but it has been around before the wheel. similarly, morir sonando is not a Dominican invention. every country has a version of orange julius. similarly, sancocho is not Dominican. it is just a name they give to a hearty soup, which every country on earth has.

Dready asks the difference between Latin rhythms (Salsa and Bachata amongst others).
Leaving aside the historic or technical aspects, and just considering the aesthetic,
Salsa is performed, listened to, danced to and appreciated by the discerning and the talented all over the world.
Bachata is for musically unsophisticated Dominicans and sycophantic tourists only.

Now getting back on back on The Topic of World Records, here is another Lie-onel is amining for:

Roy and Dread I think you fair-minded gentlemen might enjoy this?

“The Dominican Republic also LEADS in DIPLOMATIC WASTE”

The Purple ones have more paid diplomatic personal in the United States than all the six Central American countries. In fact The PLD has more than Brazil which has one of tenth largest economies in the worlds, with 21 times the population of the Dominican Republic and 177 times the land mass.

“SANTOD Sunday, Dominican Republic- The payroll list of Dominican Foreign Service is an example of why the country is world leader in misappropriation of public resources, with 1,163 staff members, of which 660 diplomatic and consular 503, many of which are authentic quotas of political cronyism and nepotism and equivalent in numbers to of all Central America.”

http://www.acento.com.do/index.ph....-tambien-lidera-el-derroche-diplo

Josean, that is just disheartening to read.

Very damming statistics, josean

Maybe Leo feels that such a big worldwide diplomatic footprint will win this country permanent membership to the Security Council of the United Nations?

Australia's former Prime Minister, Chairman Crudd sent more delegates to the Copenhagen Convention on Climate Change than the UK or the USA. New Zealand conservationists were green with envy.

Dready & Lovin-git,
regarding Bachata, it is not a genera. At best, it is a sub-sub-set of the Latin Genera. Real Genra (like rock, calssical or jazz) have many styles, rhythms, feels, arrangements and harmonic structures within them. Whereas with Bachata, every song looks, sounds and feels the same. Calling it a Genera would be like calling Chuck Berry a Genera.
Still many rock legends have done covers of Chuck Berry songs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Shakira, Santana, Bob Marley or Julio Iglesias have ever done an Aventura cover.

i know that this is going to make people mad, but Aventura has never made anything worth covering. there are bacahta songs which i really like, and , when they are played, i sit up, and pay attention. i am yet to hear anything from these guys which i would consider to be worthwhile art. i think the word is ¨mediocrity¨.

Lovingit,
Thank you for the link
Bachata in Portuguese:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrzSPUY11XE
If Dominicans could arrange and play like the Brazilians on that clip, I'd even listen to it.
I will grant that the song had some Bachata elements in it, but it also had elements never found in authentic Bachata including:
1) Standard kit drums
2) A slow-triplet accent
3) Tight brass accents
4) Snare-drum accent on 4 on each bar
5) Occasional 3-and accents
6) A long 16ths feel section with syncopated slap-pob bass accents (opposite of Bachata)

The overall feel was more like Latin Rock - nothing like the sterile, effeminate elevator music by Aventura.
The beach was definitely not Dominican - no litter.

Roy, you forgot the virtual universal absence of a keyboard of any kind. heaven forbid they experimented with a synthesizer

@Roy

You made a generalization criticizing Australian intelligence and behavior, thus:
"Australia, a country known for obnoxious, beer drinking idiots"

Oh Roy, did you get offended when I wrote this? Is this what this posting war is all about?

So you think you could come in here and bash everything Dominican, good or bad, and you are going to have immunity and go unscathed? You are telling me you are not in here day in and day out making generalizations about Dominicans? Now you are hurt because you don't like a stereotype about Australians very well known to the rest of the world?


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@Roy

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You have your right to have your anti-DR campaign, and specially speak out against the things that are not right, but you sir, find negativity in EVERYTHING, including on positive news. Your short-mindedness makes you unable (no unwilling because you don’t even have the will even if you tried) to recognize credit where it is deserved, unable to identify where progress is made.

People like you are a CANCER to those around you, your family, friends, the work place... a CANCER to society.

Your attitude fits #2 and #3 of the below article. And I am sure that people you deal with on a daily basis would probably point out that you fit #1 as well
http://www.businessweek.com/manag....to-fire-immediately-11082011.html

lovingit,
On DT, I have praised a number of good things in this country, and applauded good news too. Unfortunately the bad things here outnumber the good. I have also criticized some things in my own country on DT as well.
I have also listed on DT, things I have done to try and help the situation in this country too. Do I need to list them again? Now apart fro attempting to shoot the messenger, what have you done for this country recently?

Even worse is the Dominican live away from the DR telling people not to criticize their country... Roy for one has done and continues try to make a difference in his community and this country... are you even here?? ....... Not all that point out bad things about the DR are trying to destroy it but in fact trying to help and show a different view that other may not see.... Still it hard to believe anything that come with any government attachments.....

I will just say that the Australian passport is one of the best to have and travel on... So to all load mouth obnoxious, beer drinking Australian idiots out there, some may not like us but maybe the ones that don't should ask our Dominican wives what they think?????

Well again Roy Stone you show that your head is up you butt. My ancestor didn't kill off the the natives who lived in the DR aka Tieno Indians Europeans did. You your ancestors did kill a lot of aboriginal people just like in the US but like I said my question is what is your ties to the DR except booty and the cheap booze and the exploitation off the local populance. I don't live in the DR or born there but my ethnicity is DR so I do have love for the DR and hate to see what has been and still is going on in the country but you have no ties and you put the country down so much so why even visit stay your butt in the land from down under..

mrtibes, why not PM Roy and I'm sure he would love to tell you about his beautiful Dominican girlfriend /Wife? and his work with local and national environmental agencies here...

Sorry Roy. I mean not to talk about your private life in public as it is your life and it is up to you if you chose to talk about it here or anywhere....

mrtibes,
So you a a proud Dominican but don't live here and were not born here either? Then you are no more Dominican than I am English or Irish, by any definition. You don't have any European ancestry either? Them maybe you should call yourself a proud African, or even a proud Homo habilis, if you go back far enough.
Have you ever lived here, or even been here? What in your imagination makes you Dominican? You live in Washington Heights?
I have already stated my ties to the Dominican Republic but I don't expect you to remember, it was at least a day ago. Dominican cheep booze is of no interest since I don't drink, and as far as exploitation off the local populace, I leave that to the experts - other Dominicans.
My ancestors did not enslave, exploit or kill any Aborigines, other than in self defense. In fact it was British colonization that saved them from extinction.
So with your "ties" to this county, what are you doing to make it better? Badmouth gringo tourists and investors?

stillhere, no problem, as an Australian I am pretty open about things and have not made any secret about why I am here and what I have done. Regardless I am flattered that you remembered.

. I don't live in the DR or born there but my ethnicity is DR

whaaaa??????????

Dready, it seems mrtibes has left the building, and is walking the streets playing pirated Aventura CDs on his ghetto-blaster, trying to resolve his identity crisis. I wish him luck and insight.

luck i will wish him. insight is made of sterner stuff