Santiago.- Several university students ran their car over and killed two alleged gunmen riding on a scooter in the northeast sector Thursday night, after being assaulted at gunpoint, the city’s Police spokesman Lorenzo Morillo confirmed Friday.
Morillo said the case is being investigated and the students of the Santiago Technological University are being questioned.
He identified the victims as Juan Carlos Morales and Jefrey Marte, who allegedly assaulted several students at gunpoint in front of the Central supermarket at 27 de Febrero Av.
The students, according to the Police report, chased the alleged gunmen in a Toyota Corolla and caught up with them in the sector Villa Progreso, causing their death of severe cuts and bruises.
Written by: RoyStone, 27 Jan 2012 10:33 AM
From: Australia
Two down, how many to go?
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
That's the only way.....They didn't have their "Lords of the Ring cloak" and were spotted and dealt with
Written by: RoyStone, 27 Jan 2012 11:11 AM
From: Australia
It is a very dangerous situation when citizens feel the need to take the law into their own hands.
Written by: xwill7, 27 Jan 2012 11:20 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
You can't stop for anyone in DR.
Written by: JDJones, 27 Jan 2012 11:24 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Whoops. I guess they hit them a little too hard.
Written by: danny00, 27 Jan 2012 11:42 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
Written by: xwill7, 27 Jan 2012 11:20 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
You can't stop for anyone in DR.
the most intelligent COMMENT i have seen on this site fir a few weeks,
BUT SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE THIS WAY.
{AND DIE THIS WAY}
NOT SURE BUT MAYBE SOME REAL EDUCATION WOULD HELP? FOR BOTH SIDES THE BAD GUYS AND THE GOOD GUYS ALIKE.
Written by: xwill7, 27 Jan 2012 11:45 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Scary to stop for police at night. You never know if they are real or fake.
Written by: lovingit, 27 Jan 2012 12:00 PM
From: United States, Delaware
It's sad that people have to take the law in their hands, but the truth is, people are fed up and this is what happens when people feel that the authorities can't control the crime situation.
Unfortunately, since it was not self defense, and they chased the vermin, it could be seen as an intention to kill while the vermin where trying to "escape" so these students may face repercussions of the law. Though, if it had been the two vermin that got caught, it would have been a slap on the wrist and out on the streets for them in a few days.
From: United States
lovingit, you are absolutely correct in saying that it was not self defense. it is a pity that the students could be indicted for, in the very least, homicide. a pity.
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
good for the citizens , next time run em over with a truck and go reversed a couple times , dont stop until there dead.
Written by: Atabey, 27 Jan 2012 12:18 PM
From: United States, NYC
Drivers Ed being put to good use?
Written by: danny00, 27 Jan 2012 12:23 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
the comments are not the same when they lynch a haitian are they?
not good to run down or lynch any one is it?
u want to belong to the real world then we need a real police dept until this happens things will never change.
cant have a real country with out a real government and a real police force {one that people respect} and crooks fear.
Written by: Escott, 27 Jan 2012 12:26 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
I bet they actually commited suicide. Just like the guy who while in police custody shot himself 5 times in the head.
Written by: danny00, 27 Jan 2012 12:31 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
sad no one comments about?
running down or lynching some guys in the dr government.
feel better then if they did this they steal more then these poor two guys did. {when the rico dominicans run down a poor kid on his scooter at night and leave him for dead}
no one does any thing about this do they?
[ my daughter has been robbed 3 times in the past two years coming home from school in the night} thank god they did not kill her or hurt her, not happy at all about this but the whole thing is a bit crazy when u look at the big picture
Written by: yumnuk3, 27 Jan 2012 12:43 PM
From: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨
Danny00,
When you go to the mind reader, do you get charged half price?
Written by: RoyStone, 27 Jan 2012 1:16 PM
From: Australia
danny00,
Yes, education would have helped these crooks.
They should have known not to rob students. They have less money and more likely to run faster or have a car than elderly, gringo tourists.
From: United States, New York City
Somebody should run over some of the characters that run the country.
Written by: josean, 27 Jan 2012 1:50 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia
"Students run car over"
Did the car die as well?
Written by: Perez, 27 Jan 2012 1:54 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Booyah!! That's how you can get rid of vermins!
From: Canada
Actually this sad situation could have had an even more brutal ending ... suppose the students caught up to the motorcycle but the gunman were able to actually shoot back and kill one or more of the students anyway ...
Yes everyone has the right to defend themself and their family and to intervene as appropriate ... but this was/is a very scary story ...
justice must come from the law of the land not by the hand individuals ...
Written by: RoyStone, 27 Jan 2012 8:06 PM
From: Australia
Absolutely, FedericoD,
We are accepting the student's account of what happened, but it has not been tested in a proper court of law, with the usual tests of evidence and cross-examination. When the rule of law breaks down, no-matter how imperfect, everything else soon follows. I am not excusing the thieves, but I am also very worried by the lynch-mob mentality being demonstrated on this blog.
From: United States, Boston, Mass,
I hate when idiots start celebrating the fact that some vigilante took the law in his own hands...just think that it could be just a lie to get away with murder....OK let's get rid of the cops and join Bernard Gets and start killing people...it sounds like an assassination to me and no more.
Written by: Emaxx, 28 Jan 2012 7:15 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Great News...
Keep running over all the thugs...
The should start a new class. "How to run over a Thug with a Toyota Corolla"
That would be a great Class to attend.
Written by: RoyStone, 28 Jan 2012 8:47 AM
From: Australia
Emaxx, I've got a Honda. Do I need a different class?
We are outraged when police seem to act as judge and executioner, but when a citizen does it, he's a hero. NRA mentality?
From: United States
now thats how u deal with criminals the american way, or i mean the old american way. i woulda done the same thing, when u see most people in santo domingo in the street missing a limb like an arm or leg, just remember, people dont get their limbs chopped off for small crimes, people get their limbs chopped off because they are cruel inhuman animals, and these thugs basically got what they deserved.
Written by: curios1, 29 Jan 2012 12:08 AM
From: United States, right where im standin
every time i set out to do something i contomplate the out come,and ask myself is this something i want to do.and i have to except the results, if i do it. obviosly the criminals didn't, and possibly the victems did. none the less both parties will just have to except results of there actions. but there are two less gunmen on the streets of santiago tonight.
Written by: VStar650, 29 Jan 2012 8:16 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Taking the law in one's own hands is too often a passionate response... maybe some passionately responsive and visible police patrols on the streets would not be such a bad idea. Oh! I forgot... the police are always so busy making drug busts.....
Written by: RoyStone, 29 Jan 2012 8:39 AM
From: Australia
lsantiago77,
The vast majority of amputations in this country are as a result of road-trauma and diabetes. No surprise since we have the highest rate of road deaths in the western hemisphere, and one of the highest rates of diabetes.
So "they are cruel inhuman animals, and these thugs basically got what they deserved"?
Your draconian lynch-mob mentality is very common here, as confirmed by many of the posts on DT. Yet it has done nothing to stem this country's appalling violent crime-rate. Your attitude is not the solution. It is part of the problem.
If the money spent on guns and fortifying houses was spent on selecting, recruiting, training, equipping and motivating a proper police-force and judicial system, maybe we'd have a much lower crime rate.
Written by: RoyStone, 29 Jan 2012 8:42 AM
From: Australia
Likewise if people spent the money they spend on batteries, inverters and illicit cabling, actually paying their electricity bill, maybe we'd have continuity of supply?
From: United States
roy i used to have ur mentality when i hadnt come to DR in 10 years, now that i have lived in DR for over 1 year i know exactly whats happening. everytime someone is caught stealing they get a limb chopped off immediately, if you dont believe me roy then check this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn418VUemSk thats 1 of hundreds on youtube, in addition, when thieves here go into your house the first thing they do is rape your wife then take your money. so animals like that deserve what they get when they are caught. in order to understand the problem you need to live in DR for some time and socialize yourself with people of low resources to fully understand the situation
From: United States
¨road-trauma and diabetes¨lol am sorry for laughing but diabetes is def not the cause of amputations in DR.
Written by: RoyStone, 29 Jan 2012 2:17 PM
From: Australia
lsantiago77,
I do not doubt that amputation is used as a form of retribution in Dominican barios. My wife works at the local hospital and has witnessed it 1st hand in the emergency department. Working overnight on a pay-week week-end is the worst time. Sometimes family members will come in to the hospital with machetes and guns to "finish-off" the targets of their "justice". The 2 police on duty are the first to leave the room.
Interns at the hospital, despite giving their time and expertise free, are often the victims of theft and intimidation.
Regardless road-trauma and diabetes are still the main cause of amputations. You could say all three causes are life-style related and avoidable. Tragic no less.
Written by: VStar650, 30 Jan 2012 10:02 AM
From: Dominican Republic
First you need a reliable policy of law and order!
Unfortunately in my tiny town; if you want a cop to respond you are expected to pay for his attention.
When my car was stolen they promised to recover the car and jail the thief only after I coughed up 50k pesos.... I laughed and ultimately lost the car in court because I did not offer the judge a gift larger than the bribe paid by the thief....
Written by: RoyStone, 30 Jan 2012 11:05 AM
From: Australia
VStar650,
Are you serious? Did you have proof of ownership? I am not doubting you, but if true, this is an absolute outrage. Can 3rd parties attend these "car auctions" in courts?
No wonder people have no respect for the law here. No wonder Dominican architecture looks like mini-fortresses.
Written by: VStar650, 30 Jan 2012 2:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic
RoyStone,
yes I had a valid bill of sale but the thief's lawyer doctored up a photocopy in another name... I was so obviously doctored it was laughable. My lawyer wanted to pursue my claim that a photostat was invalid, only an original would satisfy me. Three days later my lawyer called and told me he could get a reversal if I paid about US$100.00 more than the accused paid the judge. I was however warned that if I got the car back I was open to a physical violence charge and other legal abuses... I just let it go... the car? It had a bad transmission and was not worth the costs, the hassle or my further attention
From: Dominican Republic
great.thats the way it should be.someone puts a gun in my face and threatens to kill me,expect it was coming.i am a eye for an eye person.like the lord said.due onto others as they do unto u.no tears here lol.those crocks got what they deserve.i hate liberals .always have ,always will.
Written by: RoyStone, 31 Jan 2012 9:15 PM
From: Australia
VStar650,
What about the Ministerio De Obras Publicas Y Comunicaciones? Was the car not registered there in your name?
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From: United States, El cuarto bate
You can't stop for anyone in DR.
the most intelligent COMMENT i have seen on this site fir a few weeks,
BUT SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE THIS WAY.
{AND DIE THIS WAY}
NOT SURE BUT MAYBE SOME REAL EDUCATION WOULD HELP? FOR BOTH SIDES THE BAD GUYS AND THE GOOD GUYS ALIKE.
Unfortunately, since it was not self defense, and they chased the vermin, it could be seen as an intention to kill while the vermin where trying to "escape" so these students may face repercussions of the law. Though, if it had been the two vermin that got caught, it would have been a slap on the wrist and out on the streets for them in a few days.
not good to run down or lynch any one is it?
u want to belong to the real world then we need a real police dept until this happens things will never change.
cant have a real country with out a real government and a real police force {one that people respect} and crooks fear.
running down or lynching some guys in the dr government.
feel better then if they did this they steal more then these poor two guys did. {when the rico dominicans run down a poor kid on his scooter at night and leave him for dead}
no one does any thing about this do they?
[ my daughter has been robbed 3 times in the past two years coming home from school in the night} thank god they did not kill her or hurt her, not happy at all about this but the whole thing is a bit crazy when u look at the big picture
Danny00,
When you go to the mind reader, do you get charged half price?
Yes, education would have helped these crooks.
They should have known not to rob students. They have less money and more likely to run faster or have a car than elderly, gringo tourists.
"Students run car over"
Did the car die as well?
Yes everyone has the right to defend themself and their family and to intervene as appropriate ... but this was/is a very scary story ...
justice must come from the law of the land not by the hand individuals ...
We are accepting the student's account of what happened, but it has not been tested in a proper court of law, with the usual tests of evidence and cross-examination. When the rule of law breaks down, no-matter how imperfect, everything else soon follows. I am not excusing the thieves, but I am also very worried by the lynch-mob mentality being demonstrated on this blog.
Keep running over all the thugs...
The should start a new class. "How to run over a Thug with a Toyota Corolla"
That would be a great Class to attend.
We are outraged when police seem to act as judge and executioner, but when a citizen does it, he's a hero. NRA mentality?
The vast majority of amputations in this country are as a result of road-trauma and diabetes. No surprise since we have the highest rate of road deaths in the western hemisphere, and one of the highest rates of diabetes.
So "they are cruel inhuman animals, and these thugs basically got what they deserved"?
Your draconian lynch-mob mentality is very common here, as confirmed by many of the posts on DT. Yet it has done nothing to stem this country's appalling violent crime-rate. Your attitude is not the solution. It is part of the problem.
If the money spent on guns and fortifying houses was spent on selecting, recruiting, training, equipping and motivating a proper police-force and judicial system, maybe we'd have a much lower crime rate.
I do not doubt that amputation is used as a form of retribution in Dominican barios. My wife works at the local hospital and has witnessed it 1st hand in the emergency department. Working overnight on a pay-week week-end is the worst time. Sometimes family members will come in to the hospital with machetes and guns to "finish-off" the targets of their "justice". The 2 police on duty are the first to leave the room.
Interns at the hospital, despite giving their time and expertise free, are often the victims of theft and intimidation.
Regardless road-trauma and diabetes are still the main cause of amputations. You could say all three causes are life-style related and avoidable. Tragic no less.
Unfortunately in my tiny town; if you want a cop to respond you are expected to pay for his attention.
When my car was stolen they promised to recover the car and jail the thief only after I coughed up 50k pesos.... I laughed and ultimately lost the car in court because I did not offer the judge a gift larger than the bribe paid by the thief....
Are you serious? Did you have proof of ownership? I am not doubting you, but if true, this is an absolute outrage. Can 3rd parties attend these "car auctions" in courts?
No wonder people have no respect for the law here. No wonder Dominican architecture looks like mini-fortresses.
yes I had a valid bill of sale but the thief's lawyer doctored up a photocopy in another name... I was so obviously doctored it was laughable. My lawyer wanted to pursue my claim that a photostat was invalid, only an original would satisfy me. Three days later my lawyer called and told me he could get a reversal if I paid about US$100.00 more than the accused paid the judge. I was however warned that if I got the car back I was open to a physical violence charge and other legal abuses... I just let it go... the car? It had a bad transmission and was not worth the costs, the hassle or my further attention
What about the Ministerio De Obras Publicas Y Comunicaciones? Was the car not registered there in your name?