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Santo Domingo.- President Leonel Fernandez on Monday afternoon received in the National Palace former New York City mayor Rudolph Giuliani, to discuss various topics.

According to the Presidency Website, the ex US official paid a courtesy visit to the Dominican Head of State.

Giuliani is in the country to dictate a conference, as part of the activities to mark International Youth Day.

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36 comment(s)
Written by: mannyberrios, 31 Jan 2012 8:03 AM
From: Puerto Rico
Good to see him again
Written by: telemeco, 31 Jan 2012 8:20 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
oh boy, Giuliani is going to clean Villa Juana. Adios Calle 20
Written by: ArielFornari, 31 Jan 2012 9:36 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Birds of a feather flock together-fascists love each other! :-)
Written by: RoyStone, 31 Jan 2012 9:47 AM
From: Australia
Let's hope he gives Leo some tips on what to do when the big quake or hurricane hits.
Written by: Ricardolito, 31 Jan 2012 11:31 AM
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
what evidence is there that either man is a fascist ,,in fact Giliani is known for his hard line against criminals and cleaned up NY ,,,to my mind a very able man who may assist on many problems here
Written by: Yucahu, 31 Jan 2012 11:47 AM
From: United States, Miami
Go Rudy!! We need a real Rudy, not the gimp we got right now.
Written by: Ricardolito, 31 Jan 2012 11:58 AM
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
yes I think Rudy would do a great job here
Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 1:38 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

“Written by: ArielFornari, 31 Jan 2012 9:36 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Birds of a feather flock together-fascists love each other! :-)”

ArielFornari you are correct about "Birds of a feather flock together!"

Giuliani like Lie-onel Fernandez is a MEDIA CREATED MYTH. They are both empty suits who's 15 minutes of fame are long since gone. Their shelf life expired a long time ago and if were not for the Madison Avenue style marketing they would have faded into the dust bin of idiot politicians a long time ago.

Just three points to dispel some of the Giuliani Myth:

• Giuliani received criticism for selecting 7 World Trade Center -- which collapsed during the 9-11 attacks -- as the site of his emergency command center. Giuliani reportedly "overruled" warnings from the New York Police Department not to locate the command center in the World Trade Center because it was the "number one" target for terrorists.

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Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 1:39 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

• New York City's firefighters have been critical of Giuliani for what they see as his failure to ensure that the New York police and fire departments had interoperable radios. At the time of the attacks, the New York fire department was using outdated VHF radios that were incompatible with the police department's UHF radios. In failing to improve the radio system, Giuliani reportedly ignored warnings following the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and a 1995 sarin-gas drill conducted by New York City officials that the lack of interoperable radios was a problem.

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Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 1:40 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

• The New York Daily News reported on August 10, 2007, that Giuliani "drew outrage and indignation from Sept. 11 first-responders yesterday by saying he spent as much time -- or more -- exposed to the site's dangers as workers who dug through the debris for the missing and the dead." On August 17, 2007, The New York Times reported that "for the period of Sept. 17 to Dec. 16, 2001," Giuliani spent "a total of 29 hours" at the WTC ruins "often for short periods or to visit locations adjacent to the rubble." The Times added that "[i]n that same period, many rescue and recovery workers put in daily 12-hour shifts."


Watch this video editorial on “The Myth of America’s Mayor”:

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/....writing-the-myth-of-rudy-giuliani
Written by: JPDTrinity, 31 Jan 2012 2:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
Oh man, I just hope he becomes our thugs sweeper in DR
Written by: guillermone, 31 Jan 2012 3:06 PM
From: United States
What's up with all the negative votes...........!!!!
Who and why are you doing that?

Rudy did a good job in NY and he can also help us in the DR since Leo the Lion is really a pussy cat and just cant come around to give us a roar........!!! He needs to go see both Rudy and the Wizzard of Oz......LOL
Written by: MannyTav, 31 Jan 2012 3:10 PM
From: United States
this guy was garbage to minorities...never really sitting down with minorities to discuss issues while in office. He was garbage then and he's worse garbage now as he has no authority anywhere. His joke of a presidential campaign showed what a joke he was and how he had no chance but his ego was bigger than his merits. racist piece of dung!
Written by: RoyStone, 31 Jan 2012 3:11 PM
From: Australia
Thanks for the info, Josean.
If anyone disagrees, or wants to put another perspective, please do.
Written by: guillermone, 31 Jan 2012 3:20 PM
From: United States
I saw the video link above and I believe it to be bias reporting. MSNBC focused exclusively on 911 and forget to mentioned everything else he did. Rudy did an excellent job performance during his administration. I was in NY before and after Rudy Gulianni and I definitely could see and tell the difference. So please don't anyone come here and convince me otherwise.
Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 3:26 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

Your welcome Roy!

Now a word from Mama Giuliani, who I think knows her opportunist litte boy better than anybody here on DT:

"Giuliani started his political life as a Democrat. He has stated that he admires the Kennedy family,[3] and volunteered for Robert F. Kennedy's presidential campaign in 1968. He also worked as a Democratic party committeeman on Long Island in the mid-1960s,[13][14] and voted for George McGovern for president in 1972.[15]"

"Upon graduation, Giuliani clerked for Judge Lloyd Francis MacMahon, United States District Judge for the Southern District of New York.[16]"

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Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 3:27 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"Giuliani did not serve in the military during the Vietnam War. His conscription was deferred while at Manhattan College and another while at NYU Law. Upon graduation from NYU Law in 1968, he was classified as 1-A, available for military service. He applied for a deferment but was rejected. In 1969, Judge Lloyd Francis MacMahon wrote a letter to Giuliani's draft board, asking that he be reclassified as 2-A, civilian occupation deferment, because Giuliani, who was a law clerk for MacMahon, was an essential employee. The deferment was granted. In 1970, Giuliani received a high draft lottery number; he was not called up for service although by then he had been reclassified 1-A.[17][18]

In 1970, Giuliani joined the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York.[19] In 1973, he was named Chief of the Narcotics Unit and became executive U.S. attorney.[12]

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Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 3:28 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"In 1975, Giuliani switched his party registration from Democratic to Independent[14] as he was recruited to Washington, D.C. during the Ford administration, where he was named Associate Deputy Attorney General and chief of staff to Deputy Attorney General Harold "Ace" Tyler.[14] His first high-profile prosecution was of U.S. Representative Bertram L. Podell (NY-13), who was convicted of corruption.[20] From 1977 to 1981, during the Carter Administration, Giuliani practiced law at the Patterson, Belknap, Webb and Tyler law firm, as chief of staff to his previous DC boss, Ace Tyler. Tyler later became critical of Giuliani's turn as a prosecutor, calling his tactics "overkill".[14]

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Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 3:29 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

On December 8, 1980, one month after the election of Ronald Reagan brought Republicans back to power in Washington, he switched his party affiliation from Independent to Republican.[14] Giuliani later said the switches were because he found Democratic policies "naïve", and that "by the time I moved to Washington, the Republicans had come to make more sense to me".[3] Others suggested that the switches were made in order to get positions in the Justice Department.[14]


GIULIANI'S MOTHER MAINTAINED IN 1988 THAT:

"He only became a Republican after he began to get all these jobs from them. He's definitely not a conservative Republican. He thinks he is, but he isn't. He still feels very sorry for the poor."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani
Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 3:35 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"Written by: guillermone, 31 Jan 2012 3:20 PM

From: United States

I saw the video link above and I believe it to be bias reporting. MSNBC focused exclusively on 911 and forget to mentioned everything else he did. Rudy did an excellent job performance during his administration. I was in NY before and after Rudy Gulianni and I definitely could see and tell the difference. So please don't anyone come here and convince me otherwise."

Lets see if some facts can open your closed mind:

Race Relations

A well-known Harlem minister, Calvin O. Butts, who had previously supported Giuliani for re-election, said of the Mayor, "I don't believe he likes black people. And I believe there's something fundamentally wrong in the way we are disregarded, the way we are mistreated, and the way our communities are being devastated. I had some hope that he was the kind of person you could deal with. I've just about lost that hope."[32]

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Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 3:37 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"After the minister criticized him, Giuliani diverted funds away from projects connected to him, and when Butts supported Governor George Pataki's re-election, Giuliani told Pataki he should not accept Butts' support. (Pataki did accept the endorsement.)[29][33]"

"Giuliani said that by not dealing with black leaders, he could "accomplish more for the black community."[25] State Comptroller H. Carl McCall, who is black, claimed that Giuliani ignored his requests to meet for years, and then met with him after the Amadou Diallo shooting "for show."[25] Queens Congressman Gregory Meeks said that he never met or talked with Giuliani in his entire eight years in office.[25]"

"Giuliani's schools chancellor, Rudy Crew, an African-American, later said, "I find his policies to be so racist and class-biased. I don't even know how I lasted three years.... He was barren, completely emotionally barren, on the issue of race."[34]"

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Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 3:41 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"Giuliani has been accused of supporting racial profiling,[35] specifically in the shooting death of Amadou Diallo, a West African immigrant, by the NYPD under his watch.[36][37] Many African Americans were outraged by Patrick Dorismond's death.[38"


Public schools[

One of Giuliani's three major campaign promises was to fix public schools. However, he cut the public school budget in New York City by $2 billion from 1994 to 1997 and trimmed the school repairs budget by $4.7 billion, and test scores declined during his terms.

His successor Michael Bloomberg later said, "Giuliani never got his hands around the school system. There is no question that it's gotten worse the last eight years, not better."[25] Giuliani has been accused of diverting funds for school repair from poor districts to middle-class ones. A large debt left after the Giuliani administration has resulted in less money to spend on education, according to some sources.

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Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2012 3:44 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

Fox News conflict of interest

In 1996, The New York Times reported that Giuliani was threatening Time Warner to get them to carry Rupert Murdoch's new Fox News Channel on their cable network.[79] Time Warner executive Ted Turner suggested that Giuliani had a conflict of interest because his wife, the broadcaster Donna Hanover, was employed by a television station owned by Murdoch.[80]

In the wake of the unfolding Murdoch illegal surveillance and bribery scandals erupting in the US and UK, Giuliani was among a small number of public defenders of the accused Murdoch as "a very honorable, honest man"[81]

Giuliani was described by Federal Judge Denise Cote as having violated constitutional principles in an "improper" relationship with Murdoch's Fox News, and Giuliani's wife at the time benefited significantly financially from her employment at Fox.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayoralty_of_Rudy_Giuliani
Written by: guillermone, 1 Feb 2012 2:15 AM
From: United States
OK Josean so Guiliani is an SOB, but you know what? He may be an SOB, but he is my SOB.

He got things done and he got it done right. He cleaned up NYC and when he left it became the great city it once was. He was tough, but he had to do it that way. He was not about to appease anyone to get the job done, even if it meant alienating the black community.

About Rudy Crew, i know him. The guy is politically naive and does not know how to win over anybody, never mind Guilinai. He came down to Miami and after a short stint at Dade county public schools they threw his ass out. He was a arrogant MF
Written by: josean, 1 Feb 2012 12:09 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"He may be an SOB, but he is my SOB"

I am sure many Germans and Italians had the same feelings about Hitler and Mussolini.

However, Guillermone I respect your opinion and your tenacity to OPENLY stand by your man. I like openness and honesty as opposed to others here in DT who speak in code and are afraid to stand by their convictions.

There are many here, who are PURPLE to the core but hide behind a false “intellectual” objectivity thinking they are fooling somebody, especially now that the veneer of respectability has come off the PLD!

So although I think you’re 100% wrong about Giuliani, I respect your right to be wrong and would defend your right to express you views without censorship 1000%.

I am sure down the road we will find things we agree and disagree on my brother, let’s see what2012 has in store for ALL of us!
Written by: rbrayan, 1 Feb 2012 1:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic
We can get all those great ideas from Mr. Giuliani, but if we don't apply those insights to our country's everyday life it won't do any good that Mr. Giulani visits our country. Furthermore, we already have rules and laws with the potential to help govern our country better. However, they aren't being obeyed, even from those that legislate them.

This does not mean that it's not a good gesture to import his great ideas into our legal system.
Written by: guillermone, 1 Feb 2012 1:19 PM
From: United States

Josean I do appreciate your respecful response. I am glad to see that we both can happily agree to disagree. Best wishes always.

Meanwhile my praise to Guiliani Sua Eccellenza, Capo del Governo, Duce del Demo-Fascismo e Fondatore dell'Impero ("His Excellency, Head of Government, Duce of Demo- Fascism, and Founder of the 42nd Street and Times Square Empire")
Written by: josean, 1 Feb 2012 7:01 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

Thank you Mr. G!

Though I think you forgot “Benefactor of Metropolis!”
Written by: RoyStone, 1 Feb 2012 8:28 PM
From: Australia
Damn!
I just bought a light-blue tie and now it looks like gray's back in.
Written by: josean, 1 Feb 2012 10:09 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

As long as you don't wear PURPLE, its all good Roy!
Written by: JPDTrinity, 2 Feb 2012 3:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
I just hope he gets a job in DR cleaning the filth and vermins off the streets. This guy as racist and SOB as he is - he did for NYC what no one else did in some many years. And best of all, he got it done no matter the red taping and BS going on in the local government. That's the kind of man we need in freaking DR.

Hopefully to clean up those with monkey brains whose only purpose in life is to shit chat, drink beers, and grow their ugly fat bellies until poop cannot fit in it anymore.
Written by: josean, 3 Feb 2012 1:32 AM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

The myth of Giuliani's crime-fighting


"This is basically an urban legend. As Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner write in Freakonomics (pp. 129-130), Giuliani's "broken window" approach to fighting crime "probably had little effect" -- he got credit for a drop in crime that began before he took office and happened all across the country:


First, the drop in crime in New York began in 1990. By the end of 1993, the rate of property crime and violent crime, including homicides, had already fallen nearly 20 percent. Rudolph Giuliani, however, did not become mayor -- and install [police commissioner William] Bratton -- until early 1994. Crime was well on its way down before either man arrived...

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Written by: josean, 3 Feb 2012 1:33 AM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"Second, the new police strategies were accompanied by a much more significant change within the police force: a hiring binge. Between 1991 and 2001, the NYPD grew by 45 percent, more than three times the national average. As argued above an increase in the number of police, regardless of new strategies, has been proven to reduce crime... Many of these new police were in fact hired by David Dinkins, the mayor whom Giuliani defeated. Dinkins had been desperate to secure the law-and-order vote, having known all along that his opponent would be Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor...

Most damaging to the claim that New York's police innovations radically lowered crime is one simple and often overlooked fact: crime went down everywhere in the 1990s, not only in New York.

In short, the Giuliani "toughest cop" theory isn't supported by the evidence."


http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2006/07/the_myth_of_giu.html
Written by: RoyStone, 3 Feb 2012 8:25 AM
From: Australia
Josean, why must you always spoil a good story with cold, hard facts?
For the sake of the nation, please don't let the cat out of the bag regarding Jesus!
(even if it scratched their face, very few would see it anyway)
Written by: josean, 3 Feb 2012 5:12 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"For the sake of the nation, please don't let the cat out of the bag regarding Jesus!"

Roy I never step into another man’s turf!
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