loL........

Se jodio la camiona!

Nothing will be accoplished until they deport all illegals back to la la land...

With so many soldiers you can create a human fence across the whole border.

Lol Good One

and they want to increase taxes whilst at the same time they have an army . I assume all being paid ,of 26,000 people . When you add the navy and the airforce people to the list and say we have 30,000 people averaging more than 15,000 pesos every month ,,,that is 450,000,000 pesos every month and so every year it is 5,400,000,000 pesos e....and the new taxes are the only way to keep going!!!!!.. I now fully understand why every President is scared to take necessary action against the defence forces.

To publish something like this, it is just disgusting and embarrassing. Who is responsible for these brigades and battalions?. There is something called Muster and Accountability formations ( daily, weekly formations). The ones in charge need to be relieved ASAP.

Something that has never been done.

Now, they can all make two rows facing each other and commence with the soul train line but Perico Ripiao Style, down the center.

Robertico, you are on a Roll Brother.

LMFAO

This administration and the previous is a joke!!! Oh yeah, lets not forget Ant-knee....Here's to you, ITCHES!!!!!

Can you imagine what the other nations are saying about all this that's coming to a boil.

Please gents, it is an army just in name. Those of us who have served here in the US army with many over sea deployments, this is an absolute joke. The functional question, by definition of a real army? Can that army function in a real military capacity? Somew will argue, the real response is noooooooooo.
I would like to take the top brass on a stage deployment mission to how many of them will last more than 2 seconds.

Deport them all back, not 1, 10, 100, 500 but all 2+ million!! stop betraying our country cowards.

Here is the reality....we have the 3rd largest military per capita in the entire western hemisphere coming in at 5.2 military personnel per 1000 persons.

Mexico??? 2.4
Cuba??? 4.3

Canada??? 2.0
United States??? 4.6

source: wikipedia list of countries by number of military

Simply put, we cannot afford to have a military anywhere near this size, nor do we NEED a military anywhere near this size. This country continues to show (especially when much richer countries are rolling back military expenditures) that it lives in a fantasy world. Instead of moving this fat to the border...lets just cut it out!!! And that would just be the start!

Ask anyone in the government where we stand on this vital stat of personnel per capita and how it compares to other countries.....they haven't a clue.

Thank you mike... when you show how stupid these numbers are the joke this country was, is and will continue to be.
Will the day ever come that true change happens in the DR and these people running the over crowded government bus with no bakes down the hill be forced to stop before it runs off the cliff...

We will pay the military in PLD lies!!!!!!!!

"arreglando lo que esta mal"... one step at a time

Now time to put them through boot camp and see who survives.

these soldiers can not feed their kids with lies!!!!!!!! Soooner or later they will need more money to pay for the cost of living the only reason most stay is cause they are extremely currupt and use there position and authority for personal gain.

says ingle

Written by: ingle23, 15 Oct 2012 4:02 PM
From: United States, brooklyn, NY
To publish something like this, it is just disgusting and embarrassing. Who is responsible for these brigades and battalions?. There is something called Muster and Accountability formations ( daily, weekly formations). The ones in charge need to be relieved ASAP.

apparently this army never heard about M and A.

I say there is plenty for the armed forces to do...

Secure the border tight. No one in or out without proper documentation. Send half the armed forces to the frontier with Haiti. Use the other half to start rounding up undocumented aliens and start processing and documenting each and every one of them. As we have seen from previous article, illegal Haitians are not going back willingly or peacefully. ( Remember the attack on immigration officers).

We must start a process to give legal residency to the descendants of the sugarcane cutters born and raised in DR from say 2005 back. Like wise we can legalize a percentag of those gainfully employed in the country since that time to help with Haiti's overpopulation. This will be a concession hinging on other countries taking in their share of refugees. If the international community refuses and shows its true colors ( wanting DR to absorb Haiti and or a sizeable portion of their excess population). Then start deporting

Written by: venganzaderafael, 16 Oct 2012 3:05 AM
From: United States
I say there is plenty for the armed forces to do...

Secure the border tight. No one in or out without proper documentation. Send half the armed forces to the frontier with Haiti. Use the other half to start rounding up undocumented aliens and start processing and documenting each and every one of them. As we have seen from previous article, illegal Haitians are not going back willingly or peacefully. ( Remember the attack on immigration officers).

Great idea in theory. But it will never happen. Just two weeks ago I was shaken down while returning to Sosua from Mao. This measure will just increase the number of shakedowns

2,000 now on duty? That leaves 24,000 to wash the fat-cats' dogs.

says Azeen

Great idea in theory. But it will never happen. Just two weeks ago I was shaken down while returning to Sosua from Mao. This measure will just increase the number of shakedowns

sadly, in the DR, ANY measure that is instituted will serve as a platform for graft and bribery. one thing you have to hand to these guys. they find the most creative ways to steal.

Vengan, mi hermano? You need a reality check!!!! I like to dream myself, but these days I am having problem falling to sleep. Apart from the border, each one of those guys have at least 2 wifes and 6 girlfriends, not to mention each lady has probably 3 kids. I think those uncontrol pantalons need a mega raise each before heading to the border. Do you know why? While at the border, those ladies will be preoccupied taking care of back door jody!!!! If you know what I mean??? Can I get an AMEN?????

That means more robbing , stealing or paying off at the DR Frontier.

This haitian illegal issue will never be resolved unless you dominicans break the legs of your GREEDY and RACIST Elite who need Haitian's cheap labor force and let them in....

> Dominican Police let the illegals go when they pay them off (saw it with my own eyes)

> Army officers let them in at the border for few pesos

....Until that day you're raising your blood pressure on the net for nothing....

uncontrolled pantalons. i like it, jambdebois. can i borrow it?

uncontrolled pantalons. i like it, jambdebois. can i borrow it? sure dread!!!

Let's break the leg???? How????
Folks, there is an easy solution!!!! Those 2000 hermanitos are in need of dinero for christmas. Let each one of them collect a few pesitos from the illegals crossing the border, i mean several wives, girlfriends and children.
Let's call la Isabela and send her a bill for all the gold and timber she stole from la isla with compound inerest, not done yet, plus isabela to pay $USD 1,000,000.00 for each Taino (I mean noble taino) that was genocided by those barbars. Now we have an island where every single citizen is a milonario.
PROBLEM SOLVE!!! Oh, tell la Reyna don't forget to include my lion share.
If you fools really think a barrier can be erected between the two wings of that mighty bird??? Please send me, each one of you, a deposit on veranzano bridge since the bridge toll is so ridiculously high.

Jambdebois, you Haitians are so smart that is why is so hard for me to understant why is Haiti in such condition with so many brilliant people?

Well then let's just give up any attempt to control our borders and let's just all who can abandon the country, immigrate to less corrupt (?) nations in Latin America or USA and just let the Haitians take over and absorb the country . There is nothing we can do to cut corruption, crime and other of society's ills. By 2020 the country will be unrecognizable from what it was 10 years ago.

RIP Dominican Republic : 1820 - 2020.

Hey silent,
I am waiting!!! Just let me know when you will control the border??? 35th century? Just let me know. I am not as smart as you are giving me credit y mas soy Haitiano-Dominicano?
If the truth hurt, just stretch yourself accross the border. I promise when I'll see your stretch cuerpo I will not cross. I will take an American Airline flight to DR and open up a presidente at my beautifull casa and quench my thirst.
Venga baby,
You have the solution and I can already feel and see your results.
Stop being naive mi hermanitos.....just let me know when you have a solution better than mine, we will execute. Don't get enojado conmigo, we are all in the same boat and that sucker is sinking real fast.
It is not a far fetch idea, if we stick our hands in Isabela pockets, maybe we can find some loose change. After all, that golden crown on top of her head is our. Let's reclaim it.
Oh sorry my hermanitos, I forget you guys are in love with Spaniards for violating the tainos ladies(

I forget you guys are in love with Spaniards for violating the tainos ladies( I mean the noble Taino) and hate el Haitian for doing the same without the genocide. Next time I see a Haitiano, I'll kick his arse for raping my abuela and a Spaniard will receive a blue ribbon for same crime. Perfect DR justice!!!!!! Priceless!!!!

Jam what's with the Spaniard stuff. We have their blood in us as well as Taino and African. None of that has anything to do the situation we are facing.

You are fortunate to be 1/2 Dominican. You can have papers, travel abroad and immigrate if you so wish. I am advocating for the countless of your Haitian half brothers and sisters born and raised in DR who do not by law have the same priveledges. As long as the country is facing this massive (3million estimate and counting ) population dumping from Haiti, the status of these haitian descendants will not be addressed and they may find themselves in the same situation as the recent illegals.

I have advocated for the legalization of the residential staus for a percentage of Haitians for humanity sake, but the present numbers is unsustainable socially, economically, and culturally as we will stop being Dominican Republic to become an extension of Haiti with all its maladies.

I feel your pain!!! I do not need DR papers!!!! I bring $ into DR and do not need DR pesos!
It is not an easy situation, unfortunately, most DT members do not wish to take a realistic approach at the situation. Computer monitor muscles approaches will not lead to a solution.
And, no one can see any light at the end of the tunnel.
I previously stated and I will say it again, once the Spaniards disturbed the Tainos existence with the migration of Africans and european greeds, a mess was created in la isla perfecta. Now the chicken is coming home to roost and it is not pretty.
I feel your pain when I visit both sides of the island, one hell of a contrast, paradise and hell coexisting!!!!

I would've fired them all. They have no descipline, can't expect great things from them.

jambdebois, the island wasn't perfect before the europeans and africans came.

I feel your pain, brotther. Reality is we can only take some of that side of the family, less we bring hell all over the island.
Haiti as Haitiking informed us is rebuilding. I see the main problem as over population in Haiti. You have been there, what do you see?

Ricardito:

You are looking at the regular soldier's salary only Not mentioning the cost to supplying 6 such useless brigades.ex. food,clothing ,housing,materiel in general (logistics).
I had mentioned once before slashing its military by 1/2 to start this coming year,slash it again next year by half and put all those savings into education,health,housing, nutrition.Althought am a firm believer on such a tax increased to 29% providing the following; slash the politicians income by 1/2,they are to serve the people not the other way around.If taxes are to be raised ,let the upper rich class absove it, since there is no middle class in DR any more.The population is 80% poor and 20% are overly rich.
Sending 2,000 soldiers to the fronteer without any clear cut motive is not going to solve the problem but worsen it, by them becoming more corrupt and make more illegitimate babies with
Haitians, thereby having by law to accept the babies as Dominicans since one parent is DR.

Llego HaitiKingKong a cagarla!

Venga, To tell you the truth, I went to Haiti twice after el temblor in 2010 and I don't believe I will go back. I was totally dissapointed, after watching such distruction on CNN, my take was finally Haitians will have a change of hearts. Au contraire, the mentality of those folks in PAP to me was even worst after temblor than before.I have been doing DR and Haiti for the past 10 years, now since 2010 I've only been doing DR once a month. I had to turn my back to PAP where I was born.The info that I receive, at least, Martelly has the right approach.He is not letting Haitians rebuilding Haiti, bottom line they will pocket the cash. My understanding, Haiti has heavy outside involment in the rebuilding process. I hope DT readers understand, the issue is not a simplistic issue and it is becoming nearly impossible to have two countries existing on the same island. Foreign investors are the owners of las islas, throw in the mix, IMF, UN and NGO and the ruler of the world! no idea about HK!

Half Dominicayn? in my book you're Haitian. When my Grandparents and greatgrandparents came from Spain the Tainos were long gone,

Thanks for the information, jambdebois,
Its a refreshing change from xenophobic vomit from Dominicans, and re-regurgitated government spin from Haitians.

The economic costs of violent crime in Haiti.

The costs of violent crime accumulate quickly. For example, burial and funeral costs average almost $5,000 per household. Nearly all of the households we surveyed take out loans to pay these costs. The interest fees charged by money-lenders are extortionate, ranging from 50% to 150% a month. Compounding all this are bribes that are regularly paid out to the police: up to a quarter of all victims of physical assault and property crimes were asked to pay a bribe to see their cases progress. The average cost of these bribes is about $16.

The economic costs of violent crime in Haiti.

The impacts of Haiti's surge in crime endure long after the shooting stops, with children especially vulnerable
The impacts of Haiti's recent surge in crime endure long after the shooting stops. Children are especially vulnerable when a death occurs in the family; many are pulled out of school and sent to live with other families as restaveks, Creole for unpaid domestic servants. Since mid-2011, the average costs of a physical or sexual assault on a typical household member amounts to a fifth of their annual income. A murder results in expenses that are more than five times an average family's annual income of $1,200 a year.

The geographic and demographic characteristics of Haiti's crime wave are unevenly felt. For example, residents of the capital city's slums are more than 40 times more likely to be a victim of homicide than other urban dwellers. The incidence of sexual violence is also especially pronounced among young women and girls regardless of what strata of society they come from. Likewise, property crime and banditry are taking their toll, particularly among the poorer populations of the capital.

The Haitians have an opportunity in PAP, like the Pheonix rising from the ashes, to build a modern well planned urban center. My understanding is that the majority of structures were destroyed during the quake. The main obstacle to building a shining new city is again overpopulation which will again generate shantytowns and slums in and around the new constructions.

It seems both countries have a serious problem with rule of law. Over population heightens this attitude. Cuba has about 11 million inhabitants on an island at least twice the size of ours. Both governments must educate their people so as to make them more paletable for emmigration. This is especially so for Haiti. Dominican Republic caNot be the outlet for Haiti's oversized population, less we become an extension of Haiti and its conditions.

As previously stated, I feel we should keep a certain percentage of the Haitians that could easily be absorbed into the economy and population, but the rest gotta re

These soldiers being sent to the border must be educated on why they are going (protect our laws and sovereignty) and that taking a bribe to let illegal s in is treason..