Written by: Atabey, 31 Oct 2012 8:02 AM
From: United States, NYC
Ask your parents.
Written by: BASTA, 31 Oct 2012 8:14 AM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs/Free abortions for all
ask TRUJILLOS' granny
Written by: juanb, 31 Oct 2012 8:17 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Exactly what image is that?
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 8:18 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
The Image was Ruined since The PURPLE PLAUGE Infested the Country in 1996!
From: United States
This all boils down to one thing, they don't care what the DR has to say. They don't want to hear it. The human rights commission has basically stated, "I don't give a hoot, just give those kids Dominican papers, no, if, ands or but, it is the human thing to do." The DR has no defense, no claims and nothing to do but to give them what is rightfully theirs. End of story.
I guess the DR aint nothing but a piece of crap and we just have to do what they say. Period.
From: United States, Brooklyn
"Si no soy de aqui de donde soy"?
de Haiti ADIPUTSE
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
Before you know it they will be allowing Jamaicans in.....What next?
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
Before you know it they will be allowing Jamaicans in.....What next?
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 10:25 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Look how they are going to beat the hell out of all of us "QUIERO VOTAR" (I want to vote). They already destroyed their country and now want to do the same with ours. They are planning to beat us at our own game with our democracy. Once they get to votes and with our now traitors opportunists politician who would sell their mother for a few coins, we are doom as a nation.
Our best chance to get rid of them lies with the bastard of Pedro Santana when he had the chance to shipping them up to sea but he was most interested in killings our heroes.
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 10:25 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
People don't be fooled, the PURPLE Dominican government has known about this for months, they are just revving up the anti-Haitian sentiment to divert people's attention from the TAX MUGGING they are about to commit on the Dominican public!
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 10:31 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Josie
When FOUR Millions of your ahiti brothers inside the DR are demanding paper with the human rights, Europpean Union, ect so they can votes it is not anti-Hatian sentiment but trying to protect what is left of our sovereign.
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 10:34 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Did you starch you WHITE SHEETS!
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 10:38 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Our sovereignty was gone when your traitor Balaguer engineered the coup against the democratically elected Juan Bosch!
Written by: riosm, 31 Oct 2012 10:39 AM
From: United States
Boy I'm really on the late freight on this one.
1. Who started this commission ?
2. Who is behind this and who are the main players ?
3. What is their final goals and objections in the long run ?
4. Is the United Nations involved ?
From: United States
Can I offer a resolution????
Written by: Atabey, 31 Oct 2012 10:54 AM
From: United States, NYC
Written by: dreamkiller, 31 Oct 2012 10:05 AM
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
Before you know it they will be allowing Jamaicans in.....What next?'
But will they allow their mutton and goats, too?
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 11:06 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Josie "Did you starch you WHITE SHEETS! "
Playing the race card piti.
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 11:07 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Josie "Our sovereignty was gone when your traitor Balaguer engineered the coup against the democratically elected Juan Bosch!"
OUR OUR OUR? Wait a minute piti, were you one of the Haitians the EU helped get their paper? Since when you are a Dominican?
Written by: bernies, 31 Oct 2012 11:31 AM
From: United States, key west fl
Hey everybody the constitution of the Dominican Republic states very clear that no kids born in this country of illegals foreigners are Dominican national and there says it all. Do you know how many pregnant Haitians women cross the border just to give birth in this country to them go ask for citizenship to their kids, maybe ove 700,000. What this country is doing is within our constitution mandate. How come you don't see sons of foreigners in Swizerland asking for their Swiss citizenship because you can only be swiss if both your parents are swiss and even son of legal residents in that country do not get the swiss citizenship when they are born, they get the citizenship of the country that their parents our from. In this country you are only Dominican citizen when you are born of legal parents in this country, or by blood because we do not have the Yousoli we have the yousangi stated in our constitution.
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 11:41 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
bernies,
Should the US apply the same principal to Dominican and Mexican children, just to name two communities, who were born to parents who entered the US illegally?
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 11:49 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Bernie
exactly that is what the term "IN TRANSIT" mean. Imagine if the Haitians were to be allowed to hold the Dominican citizenship once they born in DR. DR will be overun by Haitians within 10 years and turns the country into a desert.
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 11:55 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Josie "Should the US apply the same principal to Dominican and Mexican children, just to name two communities, who were born to parents who entered the US illegally?"
Piti the US have their own immigration law so as DR. Do you understand what "in transit" mean? The US is a big country capable of sustaining millions of illegal from others countries and the make up will not be altered on the other hand the Dominican Republic cannot allowed millions and millions illegal Haitians to be documented because we are a small country and the final result will be a civil war. You can't understand that Haitiano?
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 12:00 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Tell that to the people of Arizona that they can absorb millions of "illegal" Mexicans to see how quick they put a 45 to your mullato head, pendejo!
From: United States
Josean is an antidominican.. He must be a junkie haitiano for sure !
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 12:17 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Josie "Tell that to the people of Arizona that they can absorb millions of "illegal" Mexicans to see how quick they put a 45 to your mullato head, pendejo!"
Piti U MAD?
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 12:19 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
I would like to slap the immigration officer that allowed Ms. Vickey to stay in the US!
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 12:21 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
I never get MAD or Loco like you!
From: United States
I would like to slap the imigration officer that let you stay in D.R. , when I get you there.. I will send you back to Dajabon Right away!
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 12:26 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Don't copy be a little original for once in your miserable life!
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 12:30 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Josie "I never get MAD or Loco like you!"
Yea he mad.
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 12:34 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
I am as cool as a cucumber my friend!
From: United States
..and a rottem lettuce and a piece of salami my friend !
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 12:39 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Now your dribble is turning into gibberish!
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 12:44 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Josie "I am as cool as a cucumber my friend!"
OK Pendejo LMFAO
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 12:47 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
I am glad you're enjoying yourself Mullato!
Written by: danny00, 31 Oct 2012 12:50 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
hey! low-lifes that kill litle kids.
dont see any haitians killing litle children.
u know your now world famous nanny in new york who killed two litle kids last week.
they now are saying in the states that the only "thing lower then a puerto rican is a dominican"
and thats not and easy thing to do.
choo choo
all aboard the choo choo train going to new york city to kill little kids and sell drugs and shoplift.
we are the mighty triniitarios and the dominicans dont play gangs we are proud people we are. we hold our heads up high.
Written by: danny00, 31 Oct 2012 12:53 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
dont see any con-air for the haitians in the states do u?
they are going to make rikers island bigger, they say way many dominicans living over there.
choo choo
{the nanny dominicans that kill little kids}
Written by: danny00, 31 Oct 2012 12:55 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
take away the drug selling all are shoe-shine boys for life.
Written by: Yucahu, 31 Oct 2012 1:02 PM
From: United States, Miami
Si no soy de aqui de donde soy? Oh oh pero de Haiti tu Maldita madre!
Written by: vacanos, 31 Oct 2012 1:12 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Josie"I am glad you're enjoying yourself Mullato!"
Piti what can be more fun than watching you begging?
Written by: Danilo, 31 Oct 2012 2:01 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
I love Yucahu's idea, if Haiti wont provide them with documents we'll provide it for them. It will just say "Haiti" or better yet, "in transit... to the US" because you have to admit that's everyone's final destination.
From: Jamaica
If you will block the Haitians from purchasing and working in your country, you would not have an immigrant problem. Can you do without the Haitian buyers and workers? You can't have one without the other.
Written by: Danilo, 31 Oct 2012 4:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
How can you stop them from working? anyone can be a limpiabota, sell frituras, sell candy, beg, etc. The only way is to repatriate them.
From: United States, Brooklyn
Yes we can Chilli, Yes we can. In fact things will improve for poor dominicans.
Written by: Danilo, 31 Oct 2012 4:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
If we didn't have cheap labor we wouldn't need the buying power of the Haitians
Written by: IloveDR, 31 Oct 2012 5:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
DEPORT them all!!
AFUERA!!
Written by: IloveDR, 31 Oct 2012 5:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Btw.. Josean hates the fact he's haitian, le dueleee con todo el alma!! :D
From: United States
Danny00
Dude I am now convinced you are a bigot of the magnitude of Dessalines. Dominicans are in every state of the union. Many of us are professionals with higher learning degrees, entrepreneurs in every conceivable business, and work and live here legally. Yet in your hatred and bigotry you only see the bad apples. You don't say anything on stories like the Dominican kids who saved a child from a fire, or revitalizing slum neighborhoods with investments and businesses as we did in North Philadelphia. Your opinions are relegated to Haitiking's status: prejudiced ignorant opinions.
And the story is not complete with the nanny.
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 6:57 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
he who claims to love dr,
What you hate is the fact that I am Dominican but not a racist like YOU, who makes our people look xenophobic creatons!
From: United States
Josean, brother this is the problem with legalizing the status of Haitians like yourself. Its not enough you are made legal or given citizenship, you gotta make it acceptable to us that Haitians can move to DR without impediments.
What about free pass to DR= massive movement of Haiti's poverty stricken and uneducated mass to DR don't you understand
Its not going to be accepted by Dominicans . You are lucky you are accepted. Be happy with that. Stop making excuses comparing other developed and industrialized countries immigration policy. And the US deports illegals whenever they catch them.
We do not have the resources to cope with 1/2 of Haiti's population and have a future for future Dominican generations. We cannot GIVE legal status without a comprehensive plan for evacuating the majority of new immigrants to other nations.
What do you say chilli, want to take some Haitians off our hands? We have PLENTY to spare.
From: United States
Josean.... IT IS NOT A RACIAL THING, IT IS A NATIONALISTIC THING! If you are Dominican you would have a sense of our African heritage and know in your heart it is not about race or denial of a particular race. If it were 3 million ignorant uneducated supersticious SCANDINAVIAN men with few women coming in mass, illegally, we'd be just as opposed. Stop throwing this race card around as your only answer to reasonable arguments before we start giving people the "perejil" test.
CONASO!
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 7:26 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Just be proud your exnophobic racist, own up to it!
If our neighbors were blue eyed and blond hair you would be the one trying to jump your mullato ass over the fence even they were retarded!
From: United States
Josean stop it with typical haitian obstinancy. We are not a nation of Fa@@ots. It wasn't us giving up the b**ty in the late 70's early 80's to Canadian, N. American and European homosexuals. So a bunch of blonde hair , blue eyed men really holds no attraction to us , sorry. Not our thing, other nation's thing, but not ours. Now if it were blonde, blue and green eyed WOMEN, then we could be jumping over the border, unfortunately that is not the case here. We are facing 3 million ugly haitian men with only 1/10 th if that much females. Bring some young Haitian females (not pregnant) and we can talk some more. I'm all for legalizing young Haitian females, (again not pregnant).
Written by: Danilo, 31 Oct 2012 8:19 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
Send over those young non-pregnant Haitian female and we'll legalize them all :-) or even those smart wealthy Heatian men. It's obvious why no country wants poor uneducated illegals.
From: United States
Como siempre en la historia, el mundo nos abandona a nuestro destino. Valientes al frente!
Written by: josean, 31 Oct 2012 9:30 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
You crude vulgar idiots do more damage to our country with your swine talk than a thousand illegal Hatians!
From: United States
Ayisyen masisi .........allez, allez, allez
From: United States
No Josean, the swine talk if that is what you call the hard truth and rational thinking is BECAUSE it is not 1,000 illegal Haitians, ITS 3, 000,000 !!!!
Written by: Atabey, 31 Oct 2012 11:13 PM
From: United States, NYC
The greatest racist was Dessaline and the Constitutional requirement this Grand Racist ingrained in Haiti: no blancs allowed nor recognized by law.
That historical injustice towards whites poisoned the waters and created the basis for the racial divide . Dominicans have never denied their negro component; they have defended their mixed and white component. And that defence of other than black racial sensitivity has undercut the historical narrative conceived by Dessaline and his anti white discourse.
As long as Dominicans maintained their multi racial sensitivities, Dessaline's dream could never be reality.
From: United States
Josean, my brother from another mother, let's get away from the putdowns. I am not the type of person that considers someone of differring opinions an enemy. On the contrary, differing opinions lead to better decisions. Take the example of the US.
That being said , I don't see that much difference in opinions and goals between us. We all want a prosperous , crime free island. That may be beyond our capacity now , but at least let us strive for a economically competetIve , low crime island. When I say island I mean Republic of Haiti AND Dominican Republic.
We must manage a series of crisis facing us less we all suffer in misery. With the possibilty of a Castro free
Cuba in the near future, the island stands to lose substancial tourist business. We must clean up our act and our streets and combine our resources to offer as Roy Stone mentioned ; World-Class attractions. Both nations inundated with poverty visible on every street corner will soon disenchant
Travele
From: United States
The main obstacle to a healthy vacation image is the poverty outside of the nice neighborhoods and the resort areas in both countries. Better infrastucture needs to be built in both nations but especially in Haiti where housing that is neither durable or safe is thrown up haphazardly.
The main things are plumbing ( the Romans figured this more than 2000 yrs ago), and energy. With this in place we can put the vast Haitian construction force as well as renew the Dominican construction industry to start building adequate homes for the people. This should bring employment to thousands. Use a lot of that aid money Haiti is getting to finance the projects. With work back home many Haitians will return. This will in turn alleviate the congestion in every street corner of every Dominican town.
Joint tourist destinations attractions should be encouraged. Together we can offer the chance to explore two cultures and history with the wonders and beauty of the island as a backdrop.
Written by: Danilo, 1 Nov 2012 12:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
Venganza, two countries for the price of one sounds like a great deal. Imagine, a tourist can immerse themselves in two different cultures in one trip.
From: United States
This is something Cuba can't offer. If we do not unite our tourist industry, the size of Cuba will dwarf us individually. Together we can compete in hotel space and variety with Cuba.
Haitiking is correct in his statements that Haiti's history is worldly known. Add our history dating back over 500 years and its a more interesting package.
With the Haitians that remain in DR (including the "stateless" descendants) there are 2 avenues. Get legit I'd fron Haiti and apply for further immigration elsewhere.. Get legit I'd from Haiti and with proof of good behavior, school attendence if born in DR and steady work in DR apply for legit residency status in DR. Preferential treatment should be given to the many Dominico-Haitianos born in DR. Criminal convictions would negate that priviledge.
This voluntary act by Haitians will prevent massive deportations that will save Dominican but re-strain the economy in Haiti. We can absorb some Haitians, not all the ones we have alre
From: United States
So Josean, can you agree we can accomodate many Haitians especially those born in DR prior to the quake. After the quake many Haitian women with child crossed the border to give birth in DR territory. That scenario won't fly. We can also legitamize a percentage of those recent quake refugees who are gainfully employed or in school. But Josean we cannot take in 3.5 million and counting, the quality of life of most Dominicans is sufferring due to this massive rapid influx. Anyone who can't see that is hartboring a hidden agenda ala Haitiking.
Written by: josean, 1 Nov 2012 6:52 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Like I've said before on this topic it's the economy stupid!
Unless our government pays a living wage to Dominican workers and outlaws the hiring of Haitian illegal migrants the problem will last for another 500 years!
The fact is this arrangement is very beneficial to rich elites in both countries and the corrupt governments they support. The Dominican labor market serves as a pressure relief valve for the overwhelming amount of unemployment in Haiti, so the Haitian elites don't really have to work on solving their extreme poverty. They can enjoy their wealth without taking any responsibility for the social decay of their country. The Dominican elites hire these desperate people so they can continue to make their exorbitant profits and keep the wages of Dominican workers suppressed.
Our surplus labor then have to risk their lives ricketty boats boats to find employment in PR!
Live is marvelous in METROLANDIA, if your Rich or a Politician!
From: United States
I agree, the govt must make it painful for Dominican businesses in particularly the construction
industry to hire illegals. Once the job pool dries up many Haitians will return home especially if the projects in Haiti continue to pick up. An easing of the numbers of illegals should clear the path to deal with the "stateless" descendants first , then some sort of lottery to grant residency for workers that have been working and living in DR during this past decade. This will help Haiti with the excess population and legalizes the status of many who can even migrate further to other nations. Unfortunayely those that are left out will have to be deported. But at least many will have a better quality of life as will many poort Dominicans. Can Danilo implement this?
From: United States
I agree, the govt must make it painful for Dominican businesses in particularly the construction
industry to hire illegals. Once the job pool dries up many Haitians will return home especially if the projects in Haiti continue to pick up. An easing of the numbers of illegals should clear the path to deal with the "stateless" descendants first , then some sort of lottery to grant residency for workers that have been working and living in DR during this past decade. This will help Haiti with the excess population and legalizes the status of many who can even migrate further to other nations. Unfortunayely those that are left out will have to be deported. But at least many will have a better quality of life as will many poor Dominicans. Can Danilo implement this?
Can you tell me about this Guillermo Moreno for 2016?
From: United States, Vivir sin Patria, es lo mismo que vivir sin Honor.
Written by: venganzaderafael, 1 Nov 2012 7:32 AM
From: United States
Can you tell me about this Guillermo Moreno for 2016?
If you love our country and want to see real change then you'll vote for him......
He promised what other candidates didn't dare talk about such as the restructuring of government from top to bottom, he promised to resolve the illegal inmigration issue and also to reduce government spending by cleaning house meaning firing all the useless people the current government employs + increase productivity....
For what read and hear people like Felix Bautista will have no place in public office if he is elected president!!
Written by: josean, 1 Nov 2012 4:36 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
“Can Danilo implement this?”
Yes of course; but will he, HELL NO!
He can't even stand up to Narco Lie-onel and his Mad Hatter Wife.
Sanit Danilo is a Made Man in the Mafia of the 27. When your a Made Man you do as the Boss/es say period!
The Danilo who said the “State Defeated Me in 2008” changed a 180 degrees and has said in word and action since he was sworn in if I Can’t beat Them I will Join them!
He was more interested in being President than in “Being a President!”
So he succumbed to Lie-onel’s Wicked Evil Corrupt PURPLE POLITICAL Machine Financed by Felix Bautista and many of the same elites the benefit by letting our country be overrun by illegal Haitian workers.
He has the same Group of the most Corrupt Thugs in his cabinet since the Trujillo era or maybe even more horrendous than that group of historic criminals.
Saint Danilo is More of the Same, Only Worse!
Written by: Danilo, 1 Nov 2012 4:53 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
Joseano,
Don't act like you've plugged your ears and ran your mouth since August 16. Oh wait, you have. What you really mean is:
Saint Danilo is More of the Same, Only Better!
From: United States
Saint Danilo is More of the Same, Only Better!
Now that is a good one............LMAO.............
Written by: josean, 1 Nov 2012 5:05 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"Saint Danilo is More of the Same, Only Better!"
Give me one example?
Written by: Gringo3, 1 Nov 2012 5:22 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Imagine any one thinking Dominicans treat Haitians poorly....
What stellar Dominican reputation did they insult? Truth hurts...
From: United States
Gringo3,
Um.... Hello sir and welcome to our discourse. Do you have something to elaborate other than thje truth hurts. I'm all about in your face truth. So please, don't hold back.
But first, from whence do you hail? And how long have you lived on my beautiful island?
What is your take on the Haitian invasion?
From: Dominican Republic
There's a lot of writing when it comes to Haitians. The dog you spank wails.
The only one who is damaging the image of the Dominican Republic are the Dominicans themselves.
From: United States
Anybody that complains of dominicans, please be welcome to receive the 1 million haitians that dominicans have to live with everyday..And take care of ALL their problems..
Instead of complainig of dominicans , why dont you start a fund to start taking there to your countries? And believe me, we dominicans will be VERY glad than that happens..
From: Dominican Republic
Nobody is complaining about Dominicans. Dominicans ALWAYS are complaining about Haitians. I love to live here, but I just can't stand stupid racism. Before I always thought we in Europe are racists, but that's nothing compared to Dominicans.
Don't wish too much that all the Haitians go away - that would mean you´ll have to work yourself in the cane fields, in construction, in all the hard works where you don't see ANY Dominican, except the ones that stand beside doing nothing than scolding on Haitians.
From: United States
Calvoleon, our beef with the Haityians is interpreted as racism becauuse they are so unicolor. As a visitor to our country take the time, go to a library and research our history dealing wit Haitians and poerhaps you can understand where we are coming from. If we were such racist we would not have given santuary to so many of them after the earthquake. Of course with typical Haitian behavior we lend a hand and they take the whole arm. We allowed the refugees to come over and half the country moved in.
We do not need them for labor. They just will work for extremely low wages. Believe me we got along just fine without their massive numbers straining our maternity wards, hospitals and creating an eye sore in every corner of every fraking town.
Where are you from anyway that you think its just fine for 3,000,000 illegals to cross a border in a 5yr span and the host country just has to swallow it .
From: United States
This is a nationality issue, not a racial issue. Again what country are you from? Lets compare how your country deals with illegal African immigrants.
These people are in our country illegally and in massive numbers. 15-20 yrs ago we did many of the jobs taken by undercutting Haitians.
If it were 3 million Scandinavian men illegally in our country do you think our attitude would be any different.
Written by: josean, 2 Nov 2012 4:29 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"This is a nationality issue, not a racial issue."
Come on Rafi let's be serious ok!
From: Dominican Republic
As I wrote a couple of times already: I understand that the Dominican Republic is a small and unfortunately mostly poor country that cannot take millions of other people. That's normal. I also know well the history of Hispaniola - both sides, for I'm an educated European, no illiterate Dominican (sorry, it's not their fault). Also I know about the helpful Dominicans after the earthquake - others were so shameless to steal the containers and trucks on their way to Haiti with goods for the poorest that arrived in Haina or Caucedo!
A very big number of these people - at least this time you don't say rats - are here beause they bribed corrupt Dominican officials to let them enter illegaly. You can ask any Haitian who came in illegally. He always will tell the same story how the guagua passed the many Dominican control points on the way. So don't be hipocrate. If they wanted a true control it would be possible. This border is not the Rio Grande.
From: Dominican Republic
part 2
Ask the many abusive Dominican employers if they don't need cheap the Haitians to make bigger profits to buy a bigger jipeta and spend the money with a pretty Haitian minor (of course also cheaper than a Dominican "lady").
And talking about "Haitian behavior": I better don't say anything about Dominican behavior. The Haitians I know mostly are polite and friendly and helpful. Sorry, taht's how I perceive it as an independent observer. I don't have any problems with Dominicans and I respect and understand them. But this racist thing is just awfula and degrading - for the Dominicans. I know it's useless to write this - for Dominicans always know everything better.
From: United States
CalvoLeon:
The owners of sugarfields are not dominicans..Most of them live in Miami.Sugar cane production is not a need for dominicans.
You can stop the sugar industry right now and you can be SURE not a lot of people will show up for work because the wages are WAY ridiculous..
We are the ONLY country that swallow that situation..
In other words, some people from another countries , bring their problems to us..
I woudnt call it racism.. but PLAIN Nationalism..Period..
Written by: josean, 2 Nov 2012 4:49 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"no illiterate Dominican"
I think he is referring to you Ms. Vickey!
From: United States
CalvoLeon-When ever I hear people make claims that Dominicans are racist against Haitians, I alway ask the same question over and over again. Can you please give us a few examples of this racism which you talk about? And you know what, they never answer back. Do you know why ? Because there aint no such thing. And I expect you Calvo Leon will also remain silent, without a response, and will be exactly like the others, with nothing to state to help prove your point.
From: United States
Leon,
True on everything but this persistence on racism.
We ARE a black nation. If we go by the standards established by that pusilanamous french queer back in colonial Saint Domingue " if you aahr 1/8 bliac then you aahr bliac ", then 80-85% of our population is "BLIAC".
See Leon its not racist if black people call each other ni&&er, or negro or morao, its only racist if WHITE people do it.
That being the case if i dont want you in my backyard, I'm gonna holler at you to get the f#{k out of my backyard you F#{kin& ghost if you are white, maldito negro if you are black or maldito chino if you are asian regardless of nationality.
Bottom line mi carnal blanquito as i said before if half of Norway had come over in the last 5 yrs, mostly men and the few women pregnant, brother you would see some foul caucasian related epitaths being spewed out.
I dont care if they are black almost purple, Dominican mulato in color, high yellow or redbone, white, if in DR illegally you
From: United States
Cont.
You have two choices. But before i explain, going back a couple of sentences.
If there are any white Haitians maybe we should keep them as they would be a rare breed, to be trated as an endangered species. Much like white Dominicans as a % of our population with the added 3.5 million Haitians and......Counting.
While we are on this topic Calvoleon, ask any Haitian why unlike all other islands in the Caribean , Haiti is the only one lacking white families descended from colonial times.
The truth is a haunting illumination of the excess of raw hatred and pure racism.
Written by: Atabey, 2 Nov 2012 9:12 PM
From: United States, NYC
"Written by: calvoleon, 2 Nov 2012 2:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Nobody is complaining about Dominicans. Dominicans ALWAYS are complaining about Haitians. I love to live here, but I just can't stand stupid racism. Before I always thought we in Europe are racists, but that's nothing compared to Dominicans.
..I also know well the history of Hispaniola - both sides, for I'm an educated European, no illiterate Dominican (sorry, it's not their fault).."
Interesting Leon brings up history. Perhaps he should try to actually read and comprehend it some time. The name Dessalines should facilitate his education on the matter. Also, the Belgium Congo where the "less racist" Europeans skinned alive the native Africans for petty crimes was a show of European "restraint" versus the savagery he witnesses in DR .
Cabron. Study your history indeed!
From: United States
Anywho there are two options as I see it.
1. There are alot of projects going on in Haiti right now. Things are improving.
If you delay going you will miss an opportunity for advancement either in the educational programs the UN is coming up with or work in the numerous projects operating and being developed, not just in the construction industry. As an illegal immigrant in DR there is no future.
Back in Haiti many can emmigrate to other more welcoming nations by getting their proper identification papers. We will issue no such document other than a prison number.
2. Start the process to legalize your residency as other foreigners are required to do. You are not special, if anything due to your aggressions against us you are doubly required. So go home, you can just cross the border back as we know, and get your legal Haitian passport and start legalization process. I believe the DR gov't should favor those gainfully employed or in school with good grades.
Written by: Atabey, 2 Nov 2012 9:27 PM
From: United States, NYC
Genocide scholar Adam Jones comments, “The result was one of the most brutal and all-encompassing corvée institutions the world has known . . . Male rubber tappers and porters were mercilessly exploited and driven to death.
Leopold's agents held the wives and children of these men hostage until they returned with their rubber quota.
"From 1885 to 1908, it is estimated that the Congolese native population decreased by about ten million people. Historian Adam Hochshild identifies a number of causes for this loss under Leopold’s reign—murder, starvation, exhaustion and exposure, disease, and plummeting birth rates. Congolese historian Ndaywel e Nziem estimates the death toll at thirteen million."
Good sports those Europeans, eh?
From: United States
Cont.
If 3 million of the illegal Hatians can do this of their own volution , then we can legislate for a one time exception to our constitution and grant the 500,000. "Descendants" outright citizenship. As long as there remains such an enormously large number of illegals in the country any legalization of Haitians whose parents came here as contract workers in the past, would set a dangerous precedent for my country.
From: Dominican Republic
Like I said, Atabey. A Dominican never has to be told anything. He knows everything since birth, that's why he even doesn't have to go to school!
I'm just sitting in a restaurant at the Malecón and listen to a Haitian salesguy speaking a PERFECT English to a customer, not like the ridiculous Dominican babblers who think they know.
And thanks for your elegant expressions towards me. That shows all of your culture.
From: United States
Calvoleon,
All you are doing is repeating is the same stereotyping you attribute to us. We already agree there are good hearted well intentioned Dominicans as well as lowlives who would steal emergency supplies from disaster victim. ( That IS low)
Im sure some of the supplies were also diverted in Haiti. Or are they such unique human beings that they are just homogeneously the salt of the earth.
You didnt respond with an example which there has to be some given human nature. You just repeated your putdown and added to it by insinuating a Dominican would be unequal to a Haitian
In speaking the English language.
Are you kidding?
I happen to speak, read and write the English language better than most English speaking people on the planet. Your comment is an affront sir.
You haven't said where your values were formed. Afraid we may find some hypocracy lurking in your history?
From: United States
Calvoleon,
All you are doing is repeating the same stereotyping you attribute to us. We already agree there are good hearted well intentioned Dominicans as well as lowlives who would steal emergency supplies from disaster victim. ( That IS low)
Im sure some of the supplies were also diverted in Haiti. Or are they such unique human beings that they are just homogeneously the salt of the earth?
You didnt respond with an example which there has to be some given human nature. You just repeated your putdown and added to it by insinuating a Dominican would be unequal to a Haitian
In speaking the English language.
Are you kidding?
I happen to speak, read and write the English language better than most English speaking people on the planet. Your comment is an affront sir.
You haven't said where your values were formed. Afraid we may find some hypocracy lurking in your history?
Written by: Atabey, 3 Nov 2012 4:39 PM
From: United States, NYC
Leon,
I'm not sure if you are Spanish, your surname would suggest that, but just the same: what you claim Dominicans do to Haitians PALE IN COMPARISON with what you and your continent has perpetuated unto the world and yourselves. The MASS industrial killing fields of the 19th and 20th centuries were established and masterminded in your neck of the woods.
You do yourself no service by not addressing the historical nature of the dispute on the island of Hispaniola. Afraid it might expose the many European facets for the current troubles? And it was YOU sir who started with the put downs.
From: United States
Atabay,
You hit the nail on the head, mi hermano. The European countries don't want to address the historical nature of our present problem (this is a very serious problem) with the Haitians because it would expose their complicity with the failed state that is Haiti.
It is easier for them to just cry hypocritical racism forming a chorus with the descendants of some of the most racist group of people in the history of the Americas in order to temper our will and determination and allow this literal invasion to stand.
They are here as temporary guests.
Most must return . We can legalize some.
There is no danger in returning. Except for escaped and wanted criminals.
We are not absorbing 3+ million people
You people in the intrernational community are crazy if you think we will.
Paraphrasing a famous American " If this is Racism , then make the most of it " !
Written by: Atabey, 3 Nov 2012 5:56 PM
From: United States, NYC
Despues que hacen sus males historicos son ellos los que mas humanos quieren ser.
Reconocer la poblematicas historicas y corrientes, estos no le dan piensamiento.
From: United States
Como en el principio y en todos instantes despues nos abandonan, y ahora hasta respaldan la invasion.
Tenemos que prepararnos como que viene de seguro.
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Exactly what image is that?
The Image was Ruined since The PURPLE PLAUGE Infested the Country in 1996!
I guess the DR aint nothing but a piece of crap and we just have to do what they say. Period.
"Si no soy de aqui de donde soy"?
de Haiti ADIPUTSE
Look how they are going to beat the hell out of all of us "QUIERO VOTAR" (I want to vote). They already destroyed their country and now want to do the same with ours. They are planning to beat us at our own game with our democracy. Once they get to votes and with our now traitors opportunists politician who would sell their mother for a few coins, we are doom as a nation.
Our best chance to get rid of them lies with the bastard of Pedro Santana when he had the chance to shipping them up to sea but he was most interested in killings our heroes.
People don't be fooled, the PURPLE Dominican government has known about this for months, they are just revving up the anti-Haitian sentiment to divert people's attention from the TAX MUGGING they are about to commit on the Dominican public!
Josie
When FOUR Millions of your ahiti brothers inside the DR are demanding paper with the human rights, Europpean Union, ect so they can votes it is not anti-Hatian sentiment but trying to protect what is left of our sovereign.
Did you starch you WHITE SHEETS!
Our sovereignty was gone when your traitor Balaguer engineered the coup against the democratically elected Juan Bosch!
1. Who started this commission ?
2. Who is behind this and who are the main players ?
3. What is their final goals and objections in the long run ?
4. Is the United Nations involved ?
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
Before you know it they will be allowing Jamaicans in.....What next?'
But will they allow their mutton and goats, too?
Josie "Did you starch you WHITE SHEETS! "
Playing the race card piti.
Josie "Our sovereignty was gone when your traitor Balaguer engineered the coup against the democratically elected Juan Bosch!"
OUR OUR OUR? Wait a minute piti, were you one of the Haitians the EU helped get their paper? Since when you are a Dominican?
bernies,
Should the US apply the same principal to Dominican and Mexican children, just to name two communities, who were born to parents who entered the US illegally?
Bernie
exactly that is what the term "IN TRANSIT" mean. Imagine if the Haitians were to be allowed to hold the Dominican citizenship once they born in DR. DR will be overun by Haitians within 10 years and turns the country into a desert.
Josie "Should the US apply the same principal to Dominican and Mexican children, just to name two communities, who were born to parents who entered the US illegally?"
Piti the US have their own immigration law so as DR. Do you understand what "in transit" mean? The US is a big country capable of sustaining millions of illegal from others countries and the make up will not be altered on the other hand the Dominican Republic cannot allowed millions and millions illegal Haitians to be documented because we are a small country and the final result will be a civil war. You can't understand that Haitiano?
Tell that to the people of Arizona that they can absorb millions of "illegal" Mexicans to see how quick they put a 45 to your mullato head, pendejo!
Josean is an antidominican.. He must be a junkie haitiano for sure !
Josie "Tell that to the people of Arizona that they can absorb millions of "illegal" Mexicans to see how quick they put a 45 to your mullato head, pendejo!"
Piti U MAD?
I would like to slap the immigration officer that allowed Ms. Vickey to stay in the US!
I never get MAD or Loco like you!
I would like to slap the imigration officer that let you stay in D.R. , when I get you there.. I will send you back to Dajabon Right away!
Don't copy be a little original for once in your miserable life!
Josie "I never get MAD or Loco like you!"
Yea he mad.
I am as cool as a cucumber my friend!
..and a rottem lettuce and a piece of salami my friend !
Now your dribble is turning into gibberish!
Josie "I am as cool as a cucumber my friend!"
OK Pendejo LMFAO
I am glad you're enjoying yourself Mullato!
dont see any haitians killing litle children.
u know your now world famous nanny in new york who killed two litle kids last week.
they now are saying in the states that the only "thing lower then a puerto rican is a dominican"
and thats not and easy thing to do.
choo choo
all aboard the choo choo train going to new york city to kill little kids and sell drugs and shoplift.
we are the mighty triniitarios and the dominicans dont play gangs we are proud people we are. we hold our heads up high.
they are going to make rikers island bigger, they say way many dominicans living over there.
choo choo
{the nanny dominicans that kill little kids}
Josie"I am glad you're enjoying yourself Mullato!"
Piti what can be more fun than watching you begging?
Yes we can Chilli, Yes we can. In fact things will improve for poor dominicans.
AFUERA!!
Dude I am now convinced you are a bigot of the magnitude of Dessalines. Dominicans are in every state of the union. Many of us are professionals with higher learning degrees, entrepreneurs in every conceivable business, and work and live here legally. Yet in your hatred and bigotry you only see the bad apples. You don't say anything on stories like the Dominican kids who saved a child from a fire, or revitalizing slum neighborhoods with investments and businesses as we did in North Philadelphia. Your opinions are relegated to Haitiking's status: prejudiced ignorant opinions.
And the story is not complete with the nanny.
he who claims to love dr,
What you hate is the fact that I am Dominican but not a racist like YOU, who makes our people look xenophobic creatons!
What about free pass to DR= massive movement of Haiti's poverty stricken and uneducated mass to DR don't you understand
Its not going to be accepted by Dominicans . You are lucky you are accepted. Be happy with that. Stop making excuses comparing other developed and industrialized countries immigration policy. And the US deports illegals whenever they catch them.
We do not have the resources to cope with 1/2 of Haiti's population and have a future for future Dominican generations. We cannot GIVE legal status without a comprehensive plan for evacuating the majority of new immigrants to other nations.
What do you say chilli, want to take some Haitians off our hands? We have PLENTY to spare.
CONASO!
Just be proud your exnophobic racist, own up to it!
If our neighbors were blue eyed and blond hair you would be the one trying to jump your mullato ass over the fence even they were retarded!
You crude vulgar idiots do more damage to our country with your swine talk than a thousand illegal Hatians!
That historical injustice towards whites poisoned the waters and created the basis for the racial divide . Dominicans have never denied their negro component; they have defended their mixed and white component. And that defence of other than black racial sensitivity has undercut the historical narrative conceived by Dessaline and his anti white discourse.
As long as Dominicans maintained their multi racial sensitivities, Dessaline's dream could never be reality.
That being said , I don't see that much difference in opinions and goals between us. We all want a prosperous , crime free island. That may be beyond our capacity now , but at least let us strive for a economically competetIve , low crime island. When I say island I mean Republic of Haiti AND Dominican Republic.
We must manage a series of crisis facing us less we all suffer in misery. With the possibilty of a Castro free
Cuba in the near future, the island stands to lose substancial tourist business. We must clean up our act and our streets and combine our resources to offer as Roy Stone mentioned ; World-Class attractions. Both nations inundated with poverty visible on every street corner will soon disenchant
Travele
The main things are plumbing ( the Romans figured this more than 2000 yrs ago), and energy. With this in place we can put the vast Haitian construction force as well as renew the Dominican construction industry to start building adequate homes for the people. This should bring employment to thousands. Use a lot of that aid money Haiti is getting to finance the projects. With work back home many Haitians will return. This will in turn alleviate the congestion in every street corner of every Dominican town.
Joint tourist destinations attractions should be encouraged. Together we can offer the chance to explore two cultures and history with the wonders and beauty of the island as a backdrop.
Haitiking is correct in his statements that Haiti's history is worldly known. Add our history dating back over 500 years and its a more interesting package.
With the Haitians that remain in DR (including the "stateless" descendants) there are 2 avenues. Get legit I'd fron Haiti and apply for further immigration elsewhere.. Get legit I'd from Haiti and with proof of good behavior, school attendence if born in DR and steady work in DR apply for legit residency status in DR. Preferential treatment should be given to the many Dominico-Haitianos born in DR. Criminal convictions would negate that priviledge.
This voluntary act by Haitians will prevent massive deportations that will save Dominican but re-strain the economy in Haiti. We can absorb some Haitians, not all the ones we have alre
Like I've said before on this topic it's the economy stupid!
Unless our government pays a living wage to Dominican workers and outlaws the hiring of Haitian illegal migrants the problem will last for another 500 years!
The fact is this arrangement is very beneficial to rich elites in both countries and the corrupt governments they support. The Dominican labor market serves as a pressure relief valve for the overwhelming amount of unemployment in Haiti, so the Haitian elites don't really have to work on solving their extreme poverty. They can enjoy their wealth without taking any responsibility for the social decay of their country. The Dominican elites hire these desperate people so they can continue to make their exorbitant profits and keep the wages of Dominican workers suppressed.
Our surplus labor then have to risk their lives ricketty boats boats to find employment in PR!
Live is marvelous in METROLANDIA, if your Rich or a Politician!
industry to hire illegals. Once the job pool dries up many Haitians will return home especially if the projects in Haiti continue to pick up. An easing of the numbers of illegals should clear the path to deal with the "stateless" descendants first , then some sort of lottery to grant residency for workers that have been working and living in DR during this past decade. This will help Haiti with the excess population and legalizes the status of many who can even migrate further to other nations. Unfortunayely those that are left out will have to be deported. But at least many will have a better quality of life as will many poort Dominicans. Can Danilo implement this?
industry to hire illegals. Once the job pool dries up many Haitians will return home especially if the projects in Haiti continue to pick up. An easing of the numbers of illegals should clear the path to deal with the "stateless" descendants first , then some sort of lottery to grant residency for workers that have been working and living in DR during this past decade. This will help Haiti with the excess population and legalizes the status of many who can even migrate further to other nations. Unfortunayely those that are left out will have to be deported. But at least many will have a better quality of life as will many poor Dominicans. Can Danilo implement this?
Can you tell me about this Guillermo Moreno for 2016?
From: United States
Can you tell me about this Guillermo Moreno for 2016?
If you love our country and want to see real change then you'll vote for him......
He promised what other candidates didn't dare talk about such as the restructuring of government from top to bottom, he promised to resolve the illegal inmigration issue and also to reduce government spending by cleaning house meaning firing all the useless people the current government employs + increase productivity....
For what read and hear people like Felix Bautista will have no place in public office if he is elected president!!
“Can Danilo implement this?”
Yes of course; but will he, HELL NO!
He can't even stand up to Narco Lie-onel and his Mad Hatter Wife.
Sanit Danilo is a Made Man in the Mafia of the 27. When your a Made Man you do as the Boss/es say period!
The Danilo who said the “State Defeated Me in 2008” changed a 180 degrees and has said in word and action since he was sworn in if I Can’t beat Them I will Join them!
He was more interested in being President than in “Being a President!”
So he succumbed to Lie-onel’s Wicked Evil Corrupt PURPLE POLITICAL Machine Financed by Felix Bautista and many of the same elites the benefit by letting our country be overrun by illegal Haitian workers.
He has the same Group of the most Corrupt Thugs in his cabinet since the Trujillo era or maybe even more horrendous than that group of historic criminals.
Saint Danilo is More of the Same, Only Worse!
Don't act like you've plugged your ears and ran your mouth since August 16. Oh wait, you have. What you really mean is:
Saint Danilo is More of the Same, Only Better!
Now that is a good one............LMAO.............
"Saint Danilo is More of the Same, Only Better!"
Give me one example?
What stellar Dominican reputation did they insult? Truth hurts...
Um.... Hello sir and welcome to our discourse. Do you have something to elaborate other than thje truth hurts. I'm all about in your face truth. So please, don't hold back.
But first, from whence do you hail? And how long have you lived on my beautiful island?
What is your take on the Haitian invasion?
The only one who is damaging the image of the Dominican Republic are the Dominicans themselves.
Anybody that complains of dominicans, please be welcome to receive the 1 million haitians that dominicans have to live with everyday..And take care of ALL their problems..
Instead of complainig of dominicans , why dont you start a fund to start taking there to your countries? And believe me, we dominicans will be VERY glad than that happens..
Don't wish too much that all the Haitians go away - that would mean you´ll have to work yourself in the cane fields, in construction, in all the hard works where you don't see ANY Dominican, except the ones that stand beside doing nothing than scolding on Haitians.
We do not need them for labor. They just will work for extremely low wages. Believe me we got along just fine without their massive numbers straining our maternity wards, hospitals and creating an eye sore in every corner of every fraking town.
Where are you from anyway that you think its just fine for 3,000,000 illegals to cross a border in a 5yr span and the host country just has to swallow it .
These people are in our country illegally and in massive numbers. 15-20 yrs ago we did many of the jobs taken by undercutting Haitians.
If it were 3 million Scandinavian men illegally in our country do you think our attitude would be any different.
"This is a nationality issue, not a racial issue."
Come on Rafi let's be serious ok!
A very big number of these people - at least this time you don't say rats - are here beause they bribed corrupt Dominican officials to let them enter illegaly. You can ask any Haitian who came in illegally. He always will tell the same story how the guagua passed the many Dominican control points on the way. So don't be hipocrate. If they wanted a true control it would be possible. This border is not the Rio Grande.
Ask the many abusive Dominican employers if they don't need cheap the Haitians to make bigger profits to buy a bigger jipeta and spend the money with a pretty Haitian minor (of course also cheaper than a Dominican "lady").
And talking about "Haitian behavior": I better don't say anything about Dominican behavior. The Haitians I know mostly are polite and friendly and helpful. Sorry, taht's how I perceive it as an independent observer. I don't have any problems with Dominicans and I respect and understand them. But this racist thing is just awfula and degrading - for the Dominicans. I know it's useless to write this - for Dominicans always know everything better.
CalvoLeon:
The owners of sugarfields are not dominicans..Most of them live in Miami.Sugar cane production is not a need for dominicans.
You can stop the sugar industry right now and you can be SURE not a lot of people will show up for work because the wages are WAY ridiculous..
We are the ONLY country that swallow that situation..
In other words, some people from another countries , bring their problems to us..
I woudnt call it racism.. but PLAIN Nationalism..Period..
"no illiterate Dominican"
I think he is referring to you Ms. Vickey!
CalvoLeon-When ever I hear people make claims that Dominicans are racist against Haitians, I alway ask the same question over and over again. Can you please give us a few examples of this racism which you talk about? And you know what, they never answer back. Do you know why ? Because there aint no such thing. And I expect you Calvo Leon will also remain silent, without a response, and will be exactly like the others, with nothing to state to help prove your point.
True on everything but this persistence on racism.
We ARE a black nation. If we go by the standards established by that pusilanamous french queer back in colonial Saint Domingue " if you aahr 1/8 bliac then you aahr bliac ", then 80-85% of our population is "BLIAC".
See Leon its not racist if black people call each other ni&&er, or negro or morao, its only racist if WHITE people do it.
That being the case if i dont want you in my backyard, I'm gonna holler at you to get the f#{k out of my backyard you F#{kin& ghost if you are white, maldito negro if you are black or maldito chino if you are asian regardless of nationality.
Bottom line mi carnal blanquito as i said before if half of Norway had come over in the last 5 yrs, mostly men and the few women pregnant, brother you would see some foul caucasian related epitaths being spewed out.
I dont care if they are black almost purple, Dominican mulato in color, high yellow or redbone, white, if in DR illegally you
You have two choices. But before i explain, going back a couple of sentences.
If there are any white Haitians maybe we should keep them as they would be a rare breed, to be trated as an endangered species. Much like white Dominicans as a % of our population with the added 3.5 million Haitians and......Counting.
While we are on this topic Calvoleon, ask any Haitian why unlike all other islands in the Caribean , Haiti is the only one lacking white families descended from colonial times.
The truth is a haunting illumination of the excess of raw hatred and pure racism.
From: Dominican Republic
Nobody is complaining about Dominicans. Dominicans ALWAYS are complaining about Haitians. I love to live here, but I just can't stand stupid racism. Before I always thought we in Europe are racists, but that's nothing compared to Dominicans.
..I also know well the history of Hispaniola - both sides, for I'm an educated European, no illiterate Dominican (sorry, it's not their fault).."
Interesting Leon brings up history. Perhaps he should try to actually read and comprehend it some time. The name Dessalines should facilitate his education on the matter. Also, the Belgium Congo where the "less racist" Europeans skinned alive the native Africans for petty crimes was a show of European "restraint" versus the savagery he witnesses in DR .
Cabron. Study your history indeed!
1. There are alot of projects going on in Haiti right now. Things are improving.
If you delay going you will miss an opportunity for advancement either in the educational programs the UN is coming up with or work in the numerous projects operating and being developed, not just in the construction industry. As an illegal immigrant in DR there is no future.
Back in Haiti many can emmigrate to other more welcoming nations by getting their proper identification papers. We will issue no such document other than a prison number.
2. Start the process to legalize your residency as other foreigners are required to do. You are not special, if anything due to your aggressions against us you are doubly required. So go home, you can just cross the border back as we know, and get your legal Haitian passport and start legalization process. I believe the DR gov't should favor those gainfully employed or in school with good grades.
Leopold's agents held the wives and children of these men hostage until they returned with their rubber quota.
"From 1885 to 1908, it is estimated that the Congolese native population decreased by about ten million people. Historian Adam Hochshild identifies a number of causes for this loss under Leopold’s reign—murder, starvation, exhaustion and exposure, disease, and plummeting birth rates. Congolese historian Ndaywel e Nziem estimates the death toll at thirteen million."
Good sports those Europeans, eh?
If 3 million of the illegal Hatians can do this of their own volution , then we can legislate for a one time exception to our constitution and grant the 500,000. "Descendants" outright citizenship. As long as there remains such an enormously large number of illegals in the country any legalization of Haitians whose parents came here as contract workers in the past, would set a dangerous precedent for my country.
I'm just sitting in a restaurant at the Malecón and listen to a Haitian salesguy speaking a PERFECT English to a customer, not like the ridiculous Dominican babblers who think they know.
And thanks for your elegant expressions towards me. That shows all of your culture.
All you are doing is repeating is the same stereotyping you attribute to us. We already agree there are good hearted well intentioned Dominicans as well as lowlives who would steal emergency supplies from disaster victim. ( That IS low)
Im sure some of the supplies were also diverted in Haiti. Or are they such unique human beings that they are just homogeneously the salt of the earth.
You didnt respond with an example which there has to be some given human nature. You just repeated your putdown and added to it by insinuating a Dominican would be unequal to a Haitian
In speaking the English language.
Are you kidding?
I happen to speak, read and write the English language better than most English speaking people on the planet. Your comment is an affront sir.
You haven't said where your values were formed. Afraid we may find some hypocracy lurking in your history?
All you are doing is repeating the same stereotyping you attribute to us. We already agree there are good hearted well intentioned Dominicans as well as lowlives who would steal emergency supplies from disaster victim. ( That IS low)
Im sure some of the supplies were also diverted in Haiti. Or are they such unique human beings that they are just homogeneously the salt of the earth?
You didnt respond with an example which there has to be some given human nature. You just repeated your putdown and added to it by insinuating a Dominican would be unequal to a Haitian
In speaking the English language.
Are you kidding?
I happen to speak, read and write the English language better than most English speaking people on the planet. Your comment is an affront sir.
You haven't said where your values were formed. Afraid we may find some hypocracy lurking in your history?
Leon,
I'm not sure if you are Spanish, your surname would suggest that, but just the same: what you claim Dominicans do to Haitians PALE IN COMPARISON with what you and your continent has perpetuated unto the world and yourselves. The MASS industrial killing fields of the 19th and 20th centuries were established and masterminded in your neck of the woods.
You do yourself no service by not addressing the historical nature of the dispute on the island of Hispaniola. Afraid it might expose the many European facets for the current troubles? And it was YOU sir who started with the put downs.
You hit the nail on the head, mi hermano. The European countries don't want to address the historical nature of our present problem (this is a very serious problem) with the Haitians because it would expose their complicity with the failed state that is Haiti.
It is easier for them to just cry hypocritical racism forming a chorus with the descendants of some of the most racist group of people in the history of the Americas in order to temper our will and determination and allow this literal invasion to stand.
They are here as temporary guests.
Most must return . We can legalize some.
There is no danger in returning. Except for escaped and wanted criminals.
We are not absorbing 3+ million people
You people in the intrernational community are crazy if you think we will.
Paraphrasing a famous American " If this is Racism , then make the most of it " !
Despues que hacen sus males historicos son ellos los que mas humanos quieren ser.
Reconocer la poblematicas historicas y corrientes, estos no le dan piensamiento.
Tenemos que prepararnos como que viene de seguro.