Only the morons will complain about the financial split or make dumb@ss comments

And you were the FIRST Moron to post.

Does DR's take include provisions for ridding the cholera Josean?

Question: Who will allocate these monies? The UN? USAID? World H Org? Over what period of time will these funds be disbursed? 5 years, 10 years? I am hoping for Haiti and the DR that the executives of these funds will hire physicians to assume the role of site area managers (allow the physicians themselves to control their assigned areas). Each physician manger should preside over a team including biologists, laboratory technicians, water purification's experts (like chemical engineers). To erradicate cholera you have to wage a concerted attack- treat/educate the people and treat the water. Doing one without the other, at the same time, is neither progressive nor effective.

"The suspected source for the epidemic was the Artibonite River, from which some of the affected people had drunk water. More than two weeks after the first cases were recorded, a UN team investigated samples of a suspected sewage spill from a Nepali UN peacekeeping base that may have infected the river system. Vincenzo Pugliese of MINUSTAH confirmed that these tests were negative for cholera"

"Three US professors or other employees at major US universities disagreed with the contention that the Nepali soldiers were the source of the outbreak, saying that they believed it was more likely dormant cholera bacteria had been aroused by various environmental incidents in Haiti. Before studying the case, they said a sequence of events, including changes in climate triggered by the La Niña climate pattern and unsanitary living conditions for those affected by the earthquake, triggered bacteria already present to multiply and infect humans However, a study unveiled in December and conducted by French epidemiologist Renaud Piarroux contended that UN troops from Nepal had started the epidemic as waste from outhouses at their base flowed into and contaminated the Artibonite River"

Haitians NEVER accept responsibility for their dire situation which is overwhelmingly self-induced.

@ roy stone you want us to take the rsponsibility of a situation that was brought on us. i could understand you saying that we have to do is clean the river and bring the mass portable water. but dont blame us for getting shot.

Sometimes you can prove a case with historical/circumstantial evidence rather than direct evidence. Has Haiti ever had a cholera outbreak (in recorded history)? No. Has any Haitian resident prior to the current cholera outbreak ever been treated for cholera bacteria? No. Have residents of Nepal been affected by cholera (recently): Yes, a constant occurence there. What person or persons other than Haitians (by nationality) were treated for cholera during the initial stages of the cholera outbreak in Haiti? A UN worker from Nepal who arrived in Haiti during a time when his Nepali homeland village was inundated with cholera (over 1,000 people there infected). There is enough indirect but plausible evidence here to make a convincing argument.

@chill
Very well said. The USA is all ways trying to cover something up and the Haiti case is one of them.

@ Roy Stoned

You just love to talk out your rear end. It has long been proven that this was brought in by the UN.

Then you go off on the Haitians saying " Haitians NEVER accept responsibility for their dire situation which is overwhelmingly self-induced."

Damn I would just love to (B)itch slap you for being such a schmuck.

In your face Roy Piedra - eso e lo que fuma el beijo ese

The stem of the Cholera bacteria is clearly the same like it exists in Nepal. How should it come to Haiti if not for somebody who came from that area? In Haiti there was no Cholera since ages. If this is not clear, what other proof is needed? Pay for the damage you did, even you can't revive 7,000 dead.

Experts say the disease, which emerged suddenly in Haiti in October 2010 was likely introduced by U.N. peacekeepers. With UN aid like this , we dont need anymore of their so called "assistance". Profiteering on both sides of the coin.

Well put Viva

"Since then, the disease has killed 7,000 people and sickened about 300,000 in Haiti. There have been 22,000 cases and 350 deaths in the Dominican Republic."

...and this thread is going in the direction of 'blame"? What? Are we all epidemiologists now too? What a feckless waste of time it is to point fingers while brothers and sisters are suffering and dying. Shouldn't this be about what to do from here forward?

I know this program must – at some juncture - include prevention of such disasters in the future, but, in the meantime the point is:

"....the disease has killed 7,000 people and sickened about 300,000 in Haiti. There have been 22,000 cases and 350 deaths in the Dominican Republic."

Viva and El Bufoon are both ignoramuses pay no attention

@ Origi

Its not about putting the blame on anyone...OK

ITS about being responsable for ones actions and admiting you made an error.

It is important to identify the source of this outbreak and make accountable those responsible. Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't UN divisions been assigned to the Haiti/Dominican borders recently? If that is the case, they are now openly interacting between both sides of Hispanola.

If they are not held accountable now, they may not take the necessary steps to prevent something similar from happening like this in the future. Just my guess.

@ dreamkiller

If you're gonna be a smartass, first you have to be smart. Otherwise you're just an ass.

@ Chill

Im with you 100%

Every country has a right, indeed a responsibility, to protect its boarders, not just from invasion and illegal immigration but also from illicit drugs, contraband and disease. That is what quarantine is for. However it is impossible to be 100% effective so every country risks illnesses like Cholera getting in.
Still the fact it spread so widely and rapidly in Haiti is only because of Haitian's disgusting behavior and lack of hygiene. Even if you accept it was introduced by UN peacekeepers, (which evidence suggest it wasn't) it would account for a tiny proportion of the cases directly. Also if Haitian took responsibility for their own country, they wouldn't need UN peacekeepers in the first place. This again confirms, Haitians NEVER accept responsibility for their dire situation which is overwhelmingly self-induced.

@ Roy Stoned

I'd like to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my ass.

elBuscoon, obviously its up far enough already. Any further and it will come out your mouth. Then what?

I actually agree with Mr. Piedra,
With a bit of containment this would not have gotten out of hand. It doesn't take much to get a sick person away from the healthy ones, unless you're careless.

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chilliwestaziz, & elBuscoon:

You bet. I did write, "I know this program must – at some juncture - include prevention of such disasters in the future...". And that necessitates the identification of the source as you already agree and have noted. It would also - once empirical evidence has been found - be pertinent to seek restitution if there is reckless abandon found. IN that, I definitely agree with your sentiment.

In the cacophony that is the aftermath of the quake, on top of what the social circumstance is supposed to have been, (according to those who claim to be witness), one cannot ignore the contribution of social detritus to epidemics that plague concentrated populations…….

.......For instance there is a large city dump near Rio wherein the waste is laden with the cholera virus which is so prevalent that the local scavenger animals have even developed habits and biologies that are resistant. No UN workers to be found. I'm not suggesting that the outbreak on your island is the victims own fault, but I am saying that if there are instances of improper disposition of waste, or migrating carriers of the virus, then this could have been the actual cause - or amplified the problem.

My point is that in the immediate timeframe, it is more important to get the aid/remedy to the brothers and sisters and stop the hemorrhaging of illness before those numbers exponentiate, and that there's little currency in pee-ing on the shoes of those who are trying to help all the while.