Santo Domingo.- American ambassador Raul Yzaguirre yesterday confirmed a process initiated against the country in the United States Department of Labor, but noted that in his view, “it’s not of great importance" and that “there’s no reason for something negative.”
Yzaguirre met with officials of the Labor and Foreign Relations ministries, one day after Foreign Relations minister Carlos Morales revealed that the priest Christopher Hartley has filed a complaint against country in Washington, on alleged violations of labor laws in sugar cane plantations, based on chapter 16 of the RD-Cafta free trade pact.
“We’re clarifying the situation and we have very good relations, and we expect something fruitful and beneficial for workers and the relations between both countries," the diplomat said.
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
Kudos to you Mr Tacos, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the USA doesn't care what this so called priest have to say about the D.R, so does everybody else.
HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...................
Written by: josean, 24 Apr 2012 10:07 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
If only we had a Wikileak to see what the Ambassador REALLY said!
Written by: RoyStone, 24 Apr 2012 10:32 AM
From: Australia
josean,
You are not suggesting we are not getting the complete picture here are you?
Regardless, my heartfelt congratulations on not linking it to the Metro.
Written by: josean, 24 Apr 2012 10:39 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
The day is young my Catholically obsessed friend!
Written by: RoyStone, 24 Apr 2012 10:58 AM
From: Australia
Josean,
Perhaps you missed my expressed preference for traditional Catholic architecture, art-treasures, music, ritual, Gregorian chanting, incense, altar-wine and funny hats, over tuneless, soul-less, colorless Evangelical bible-bashing. I grant an exemption to the Mormon Church in Santo Domingo - they provide many volnteers for environmental clean-up at VidaAzul, and an excellent live jazz concert with a Dominican jazz quartet, American vocal ensemble and big-band (and no bible-bashing).
From: Dominican Republic
Maybe the priest should have gone to Mr Fisher of the UK embassy...
Fisher seems the only diplomat around with any b#@ls to say it like he see's it....
Written by: RonEvane 
, 24 Apr 2012 11:40 AM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
Perhaps the best solution to this confounded and confused predicament-- which smears our image further-- is to mechanize the whole process of planting, harvesting, and processing the sugar industry.....This way, many will lose their livelihood, and reasons to claim inhumane treatment!
Let them eat cake!
From: United States
Mr Yzaguirre is in denial or maybe he is protecting a close connection with the sugar industry. What firm represents the Sugar Association Inc and has a board member on the AMCHAMDR. Doesnt an exUSambassador work for that firm. What hypocrisy.
Written by: josean, 24 Apr 2012 12:46 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
babylindbergh,
I am sure Cesar Chavez is rolling in his Farm Workers Grave!
From: Dominican Republic
Ron.. well put...
The fine line is always there... pay the workers more or mechanize the process....
You pay your worker more then it becomes cheaper to run the whole process with machinery and employ just a few??? Keep paying them the same and keep them all employed???
Fine line...Pro and cons of traditional v industrial farming ....
Especially when crop prices go down or stay the same, fuel goes up and cost of living continually goes up for all ...??
It seems more employers here care more for getting a new Mercedes than paying their workers a fair wage.
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
Of course the American ambassador don't give a rats as_ about what the priest said because the american companies are benefiting from cheep labor in the Dominican Republic.
Written by: RonEvane , 24 Apr 2012 1:50 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
@Stillhere.
The sugar industry in DR-- because of it's antiquated methods of processing it's product, has come to symbolize slavery and opression for the least educated and disenfranchised peoples on the island.
It is, admittedly, brutal and low-pay work. Living conditions in the Bateys, are awful, at best....It is no wonder that many a foreigner would cry foul at the very sight, and tried to right this wrong!
I'm guessing-- correct me if I'm wrong-- that having a job, however brutal, and a roof, however leaky, is better than none.
I'm not advocating abuse or exploitation of these people, and they ought to be helped; I'm saying that they aren't the "slaves", the priest,et al, portrait them to be!
From: Dominican Republic, popon@att.net
Who is working in the bateys and sugar plantations?? Haitians!!
Haitians=trouble and problems for Dominicans in ALL ANGLES!!
I am very glad the sugar industry get this type of attention...one day hopefully soon, they will wake up and will try to solve the problems and troubles by using machinery to run their plantations. Period.
That day need to come quickly.
We need to get rid of all THE BATEYS.
Written by: danny00, 24 Apr 2012 4:18 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
Written by: elBuscoon, 24 Apr 2012 1:41 PM
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
Of course the American ambassador don't give a rats as_ about what the priest said because the american companies are benefiting from cheep labor in the Dominican Republic.
LOOK OVER HERE THE GUY FROM THE CASTRO BROTHERS SPEAKS UP
AMERICAN COMPANYS? PUT THE JEAN COMP[ LEVIS} ON THE SIDE THE DR MAKES CRAP PROTECTS THE US COMPNYS? WHAT COMPANYS?
CHEAP S...T IS MADE IN THE DR, WE HAVE CHINA FOR THAT WHO IN HIS RIGHT MINE WOULD TRY AND MAKE ANYTHING IN THE DR?
CHEAP LABOR? MAYBE THE COMPANYS SHOULD PAY BIG BUCKS FOR THE VERY STUPID PEOPLE THAT CAN WORK 4 THEM IN THE DR?
HEY! MR CUBA LOVER HOW MUCH DOES LA SERINA AND PRESIDENTE BEER PAY THEIR OWN BROTHERS FOR WORKING 4 THEM? YOUR FULL OF CRAP IDIOT.
Written by: josean, 24 Apr 2012 4:21 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
This is a simple matter of supply and demand.
We demand cheap labor and Haitians supply it.
Until that equation is changed nothing will change for either community.
The US has the same relationship with Mexico.
Besides cutting our cane who will build our resorts and the "Marvelous" METROS?
PS
The last statement was added for Roy's enjoyment!
Written by: danny00, 24 Apr 2012 4:22 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
that day need to come quickly.
we need to get rid of all the bateys.
and hope we in the states can get rid of all the low-life dominicans,
u know the ones that rob and steal and kill in new york city, lets hope and pray with the help of computers and robots we in the states will not need any more dominicans for the low profile jobs.
what comes around goes around guy.
and iam dominican.
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
Danny you need to layoff the crack buddy.
Written by: danny00, 24 Apr 2012 4:25 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
our resorts and the "marvelous
never had i seen a dominican building a home, or business its always the haitians doing the building and the dominicans standing around picking their nose and rubbing their balls when a young girl walks by, and drinking their presidente, and running for the banca.
u guys are full of crap.
keep up the pounding mr joe.
Written by: danny00, 24 Apr 2012 4:27 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
choo choo train and motor concho's.
so u sell some drugs and think your on top of the world? [cry like one dog when the dea catches u}
plenty of rooms in hotel rickers island 4 u .
Written by: danny00, 24 Apr 2012 4:30 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
written by: elbuscoon, 24 apr 2012 4:23 pm
from: cuba, la havana, que viva la revolucion
danny you need to layoff the crack buddy.
never my friend, the crack is for the blacks, sell and use crak and rob 7/11's
thats their games.
any way it was nice let me og off line now.
i work for a living. have a great day in la-la land. and in cuba land where every family gets one f-----ing chicken from the castro brothers once a month..... really one chicken...... no lie......
Written by: danny00, 24 Apr 2012 4:31 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
choo choo train...... lol leos the best,
From: Dominican Republic, popon@att.net
@ danny00, you seem rabid mad when I mention we MUST CLOSE ALL BATEYS, isn't the best for the batey workers? I mean, people like you and you army of Anti-Dominicans are the one complaining about the bateys conditions troubles and problems, right? So the fairest solution to the problems and trouble is to close them down. Simple.
Can't wait the day that happens. And it better happen soon.
And I also think, all those Dominicans not making me proud should be sent back to DR put in jail and forced to do the jobs the Haitians are doing, now we’ll be killing two birds with one stone.
Written by: josean, 24 Apr 2012 6:12 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Since when did speaking up for anyone’s Human Rights become Anti-Dominican?
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
Danny the DUMB is ranting about the D.R. and its people, this boso is the dumbest Haitian out there, he says his daughter lives in D.R. but keeps putting us down. Why don't you move her back to Haiti where you belong?
Written by: josean, 24 Apr 2012 6:53 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
By the way how are you dealing with your MINUS Addiction withdrawals?
Written by: Escott, 24 Apr 2012 7:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera and Sosua a 2 days a month for payday
Now this is funny!
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
Josean,
I am going to wearout the wheel on my mouse with all the space you leave blank.
Its ok for a line or two
Thanks
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
DONT_BE_SILENT
I Agree with you 100%
danny00 is a Quack on Crack
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
This is interesting because the ambassadors. History is in labor relations with migrants to the USA and is considered very pro labor ......the remark must have disappointed the Jesuit immensley
Written by: RoyStone, 25 Apr 2012 10:26 PM
From: Australia
stillhere, observes
"It seems more employers here care more for getting a new Mercedes than paying their workers a fair wage."
Jarabacoa, is perhaps one of the nicest towns I have seen in the Dominican Republic. Well maintained streets, happy Dominicans and I have never seen so many Porsches and BMW S3s. Where does the money come from? Choko farming. And who does the back-breaking hard work on these steep mountain slopes, and walk to and from the job?
Illegal Haitian immigrants, rendering their employers immune from labor laws requiring they provide decent pay and conditions.
Written by: RoyStone, 25 Apr 2012 10:37 PM
From: Australia
Eliminate the need for Haitians to provide cheap labor by implementing mechanization?
These machines cost a lot more than prestige vehicles. Prestige comes first. Also banks need collateral for such substantial loans. You can't mortgage a property without a proper title. Furthermore such sophisticated equipment requires expertise in its operation and maintenance, neither being available on this island. That's why Haiti had to import mechanics from Cuba to maintain their buses.
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HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...................
If only we had a Wikileak to see what the Ambassador REALLY said!
You are not suggesting we are not getting the complete picture here are you?
Regardless, my heartfelt congratulations on not linking it to the Metro.
The day is young my Catholically obsessed friend!
Perhaps you missed my expressed preference for traditional Catholic architecture, art-treasures, music, ritual, Gregorian chanting, incense, altar-wine and funny hats, over tuneless, soul-less, colorless Evangelical bible-bashing. I grant an exemption to the Mormon Church in Santo Domingo - they provide many volnteers for environmental clean-up at VidaAzul, and an excellent live jazz concert with a Dominican jazz quartet, American vocal ensemble and big-band (and no bible-bashing).
Maybe the priest should have gone to Mr Fisher of the UK embassy...
Fisher seems the only diplomat around with any b#@ls to say it like he see's it....
Perhaps the best solution to this confounded and confused predicament-- which smears our image further-- is to mechanize the whole process of planting, harvesting, and processing the sugar industry.....This way, many will lose their livelihood, and reasons to claim inhumane treatment!
Let them eat cake!
babylindbergh,
I am sure Cesar Chavez is rolling in his Farm Workers Grave!
The fine line is always there... pay the workers more or mechanize the process....
You pay your worker more then it becomes cheaper to run the whole process with machinery and employ just a few??? Keep paying them the same and keep them all employed???
Fine line...Pro and cons of traditional v industrial farming ....
Especially when crop prices go down or stay the same, fuel goes up and cost of living continually goes up for all ...??
It seems more employers here care more for getting a new Mercedes than paying their workers a fair wage.
Of course the American ambassador don't give a rats as_ about what the priest said because the american companies are benefiting from cheep labor in the Dominican Republic.
@Stillhere.
The sugar industry in DR-- because of it's antiquated methods of processing it's product, has come to symbolize slavery and opression for the least educated and disenfranchised peoples on the island.
It is, admittedly, brutal and low-pay work. Living conditions in the Bateys, are awful, at best....It is no wonder that many a foreigner would cry foul at the very sight, and tried to right this wrong!
I'm guessing-- correct me if I'm wrong-- that having a job, however brutal, and a roof, however leaky, is better than none.
I'm not advocating abuse or exploitation of these people, and they ought to be helped; I'm saying that they aren't the "slaves", the priest,et al, portrait them to be!
Who is working in the bateys and sugar plantations?? Haitians!!
Haitians=trouble and problems for Dominicans in ALL ANGLES!!
I am very glad the sugar industry get this type of attention...one day hopefully soon, they will wake up and will try to solve the problems and troubles by using machinery to run their plantations. Period.
That day need to come quickly.
We need to get rid of all THE BATEYS.
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion
Of course the American ambassador don't give a rats as_ about what the priest said because the american companies are benefiting from cheep labor in the Dominican Republic.
LOOK OVER HERE THE GUY FROM THE CASTRO BROTHERS SPEAKS UP
AMERICAN COMPANYS? PUT THE JEAN COMP[ LEVIS} ON THE SIDE THE DR MAKES CRAP PROTECTS THE US COMPNYS? WHAT COMPANYS?
CHEAP S...T IS MADE IN THE DR, WE HAVE CHINA FOR THAT WHO IN HIS RIGHT MINE WOULD TRY AND MAKE ANYTHING IN THE DR?
CHEAP LABOR? MAYBE THE COMPANYS SHOULD PAY BIG BUCKS FOR THE VERY STUPID PEOPLE THAT CAN WORK 4 THEM IN THE DR?
HEY! MR CUBA LOVER HOW MUCH DOES LA SERINA AND PRESIDENTE BEER PAY THEIR OWN BROTHERS FOR WORKING 4 THEM? YOUR FULL OF CRAP IDIOT.
This is a simple matter of supply and demand.
We demand cheap labor and Haitians supply it.
Until that equation is changed nothing will change for either community.
The US has the same relationship with Mexico.
Besides cutting our cane who will build our resorts and the "Marvelous" METROS?
PS
The last statement was added for Roy's enjoyment!
we need to get rid of all the bateys.
and hope we in the states can get rid of all the low-life dominicans,
u know the ones that rob and steal and kill in new york city, lets hope and pray with the help of computers and robots we in the states will not need any more dominicans for the low profile jobs.
what comes around goes around guy.
and iam dominican.
Danny you need to layoff the crack buddy.
never had i seen a dominican building a home, or business its always the haitians doing the building and the dominicans standing around picking their nose and rubbing their balls when a young girl walks by, and drinking their presidente, and running for the banca.
u guys are full of crap.
keep up the pounding mr joe.
so u sell some drugs and think your on top of the world? [cry like one dog when the dea catches u}
plenty of rooms in hotel rickers island 4 u .
from: cuba, la havana, que viva la revolucion
danny you need to layoff the crack buddy.
never my friend, the crack is for the blacks, sell and use crak and rob 7/11's
thats their games.
any way it was nice let me og off line now.
i work for a living. have a great day in la-la land. and in cuba land where every family gets one f-----ing chicken from the castro brothers once a month..... really one chicken...... no lie......
@ danny00, you seem rabid mad when I mention we MUST CLOSE ALL BATEYS, isn't the best for the batey workers? I mean, people like you and you army of Anti-Dominicans are the one complaining about the bateys conditions troubles and problems, right? So the fairest solution to the problems and trouble is to close them down. Simple.
Can't wait the day that happens. And it better happen soon.
And I also think, all those Dominicans not making me proud should be sent back to DR put in jail and forced to do the jobs the Haitians are doing, now we’ll be killing two birds with one stone.
Since when did speaking up for anyone’s Human Rights become Anti-Dominican?
By the way how are you dealing with your MINUS Addiction withdrawals?
I am going to wearout the wheel on my mouse with all the space you leave blank.
Its ok for a line or two
Thanks
DONT_BE_SILENT
I Agree with you 100%
danny00 is a Quack on Crack
"It seems more employers here care more for getting a new Mercedes than paying their workers a fair wage."
Jarabacoa, is perhaps one of the nicest towns I have seen in the Dominican Republic. Well maintained streets, happy Dominicans and I have never seen so many Porsches and BMW S3s. Where does the money come from? Choko farming. And who does the back-breaking hard work on these steep mountain slopes, and walk to and from the job?
Illegal Haitian immigrants, rendering their employers immune from labor laws requiring they provide decent pay and conditions.
These machines cost a lot more than prestige vehicles. Prestige comes first. Also banks need collateral for such substantial loans. You can't mortgage a property without a proper title. Furthermore such sophisticated equipment requires expertise in its operation and maintenance, neither being available on this island. That's why Haiti had to import mechanics from Cuba to maintain their buses.