SUV’s driver was allegedly speeding NY Post

Roystone- The suv flew off an overpass and landed on its roof, after falling 60ft. I don't think use or not use of seat belts were an issue in this accident. She was doing 69mph in 50mph zone. Most likely distracted driving was the main culprit in this accident.

Written by: synapse, 1 May 2012 11:22 AM
From: United States

Dominicans never actually learn how to drive because for a few pesos you can buy a license.

What a false statement! In all states you must pass a driving exam...

There were a couple of problems related to this tragedy. NYC roads... especially in bad areas, the bronx, are just as bad as dr roads... just like synapse wrote... dominicans from the dr can't drive, don't have training to drive, and think everyone else are the problem on the road...

The driver, Maria Gonzalez, clipped a highway divider and damaged a tire Sunday afternoon before her SUV plunged off a highway and six stories down into a ravine on the grounds of the Bronx Zoo, killing three generations of a family, including three children, police said... Police said Maria Gonzalez of the Bronx was driving south at 68 mph when she bumped a concrete barrier separating the north- and southbound lanes. With one tire damaged, her Honda Pilot skittered across three lanes of traffic, hit a 2-foot-high concrete curb and went airborne, clearing a 4-foot-tall guardrail.

The speed limit was 50
NY Post

Roystone muses:
"I wonder, were they wearing seat-belts or rosaries?"

Roystone what a callous and ignorant comment in light of the tragedy faced by this family. I guess the death of seven family members is your cue to try a hand at humor. You, sir, are a classless boob.

cibaeño75,
Why don't you attack this country's failure to ensure drivers can actually drive, or attack its failure to enforce the habit of wearing seat-belts, or attack the popular belief that only Jesus decides when your time is up? 2,000 people die on Dominican roads every year, and a far greater number are maimed and injured. What does this tell you? I find this blatant disregard for the safety of the living more "callous" than my comment.

Roystone, are you really that dense? Look where I'm posting from. This happened in the Bronx you boob. Why does this have to do with the driving culture in DR? Newsflash: Accidents happen here as well. With that said...an attempt at garnishing a laugh at these people's plight is abhorrent..but typical coming from you.

What a tragedy. My heart felt prayers go to the family.

its sickening that some posters makes jokes about such tragedy. Nobody should ever joke about sad events like this! may they RIP. =(

"They were Dominicans visiting the USA, hence it has everything too do with driving culture in DR,"

The driver was a resident of the Bronx. The grandparents, who were not the drivers, were the ones who were visitng. Again, speaking without knowing...your forte.

" I don't know the figures, but I would not be surprised if the accident rate is higher on the Bronx than other parts of New York due to the greater percentage of Dominican drivers there. "

And your basing this on what? Where are your sources? I'll wait. Some bigots rant that the Chinese are the worst on the road..this one seems to think that it is the Dominicans.

Some bigots rant that the Chinese are the worst on the road..this one seems to think that it is the Dominicans.

And I take it you're not one of those bigots! You don't like others pointing out misconceptions about Dominicans, yet you have no problem pointing out the misconceptions about the Chinese.

Azeen, I'm pointing out other examples of bigotry for the effect of comparison..notice I said "some bigots rant",,as indeed they do. If you misread or misinterpreted what I wrote, well then, that's your concern. But in any event, for the sake of clarity, I addressed your baseless assertion.

roystone,
Make sure you have all of your facts straight before more caca comes out of your mouth!

So 'this one' Roy, thinks domininicans are the worst, while you and some bigots 'rants that the Chinese are the worst'. Your so called effect of comparison was a 'baseless assertions' about the Chinese and it wasn't warranted. You should've confined your rant to Roy, possibly australians and Bronx/NY drivers.

Azeen you must lack reading comprehension. If that's the case I cannot help you. I took the time to clarify my post for you seeing as how you had a difficult time comprehending it but you still insist on your faulty interpretation. Very well that is your prerogative. Good day.

According to Wikipedia, there are 15 road deaths per 100,000 vehicles in USA per year, 141 in the Dominican Republic, 8 in Australia and 446 in China.

So the driver was a resident of the Bronx. (The article above does not say) That means she was not Dominican? With a name like Maria Gonzalez, going 68 mph in a 50 mph zone with 7 other Dominicans in a car, I think she's more likely Dominican than Chinese or Australian, and I'd be prepared to bet the deceased were not wearing seat-belts. Many Dominicans here drive without a license. But when they live in the USA they become law abiding citizens? Not according the articles I read on Dominican Today, or the American crime and incarceration statistics.

Anyway, what happened to the driver - was she killed too?

"So the driver was a resident of the Bronx. (The article above does not say) That means she was not Dominican? With a name like Maria Gonzalez"

I have an interesting fact that you can chew on: Americans are not descended solely from English-speaking peoples. I assure you that there are plenty of Americans walking around with the name Maria. Gonzalez has become a very common surname in these here United States as well. Look it up. Indeed the article does not say if she was a resident of the Bronx nor does it say she wasn't. I happen to be privy to said information because I came across it in one of the dailies here. I didn't assume anything as you did.

xwill7,
Thank you for you polite advice, but I did not make a statement, I asked if they were wearing seat-belts, which may or may not have saved some lives here. I still don't have the answer from anyone, just highly abusive knee-jerking.

Perez,
My reference to rosaries was not a joke. It was a reference to a common Dominican superstition and the fact that many Dominicans put their trust in Jesus, or perhaps the Virgin Mary, and not seat-belts. Your reference to resting is peace suggests to me you share similar superstitions.

There is substantial evidence that seat-belts save lives. There is no evidence what-so-ever that rosaries or any other stupid superstition does - facts that seem difficult for many Dominicans to grasp, sometimes with fatal consequences.

According to the NY Daily News all the passengers had their seatbelts on.

cibaeño75,
Sorry, I don't recall saying all Americans "descended solely from English-speaking peoples", however I must have, given your aversion to ever making assumptions. Yes, I concede there may be some Maria Gonzalez's in USA that are not Dominican, but when you add she was from the Bronx, going 68 mph in a 50 mph zone with 7 other (probably unrestrained) Dominicans in a car, it is reasonable to assume she's more likely Dominican than Chinese or Australian. Now if you can prove she is Chinese or Australian, I will admit you are not a paranoid, xenophobic Dominican.

I was born in Brooklyn so I fail to see how I can be a xenophobic Dominican. You know what's one of the things I love about having grown up here? The diversity of this city. I celebrate every day in different ways. Don't ever assume. What I cannot stand are bigots such as yourself.

"According to the NY Daily News all the passengers had their seatbelts on"
Well I am impressed - 8 seat-belts in the one SUV including a proper restraint for the 3-year-old

Born in Brooklyn? Congratulations! So you are not of Dominican descent? Because from what I read here, even if you are born in USA, you are still Dominican even if just one of your parents is Dominican.

Thanks for the details, HateitorLOVEIT,
Just checked, the Honda Pilot is a larger SUV with third-row seating - maybe is has 8 seat-belts - maybe I stand self-corrected.

I won't say "may they rest in peace" but I will give my condolences to all concerned, although I doubt if any will read this.

Roy,
I read in one of the local papers that the driver was employed as a cleaning lady at a local NY university, so unless she was commuting from the DR everyday, it's safe to say that she resided in NY Metro Area. In this case the use of a seatbelt was not a factor since survivability would be moot under such conditions as free falling from over 60 feet, not to mention the initial crash at the embankment at over 60 MPH. Some years ago a family of six met their fate in this same area, much the same way, also no survivors and they were not Dominican. This is a senseless tragedy, 3 generations extinguished, a complete shame that has nothing to do with the national origin of those involved. Everybody that drives has gone over the speed limit by at least 15 MPH, not everybody is Dominican, ergo, it could happen to anyone, ethnicity had no correlation to the actual events.

devin11,

You may well be correct in this case. Certainly the use of seat-belts has limits.

However I still stand by my generalization that many Dominicans drive without a license, without wearing seat-belts, dis-regard road-rules, drive un-roadworthy vehicles, and drive dangerously, hence the very high death and serious injury rate on Dominican roads.

I attribute this to the failure of police to enforce the law, and a fatalistic attitude of many drivers, perhaps as a result of superstitious religious beliefs.

factors in this instance, however it was a reasonable assumption until further information was brought to light by some other posters like you.

As far as driving 15 mph over the limit, I never do it, because of my years of driving in Melbourne. Just 3 kph can land you a stiff fine and loss of points, leading to license cancellation. The probability of being caught is very high due to the number of permanent speed/red-light cameras and radars in unmarked police-cars. Blood-alcohol testing is also very common, and Melbourne was the first city in the world to also implement random illicit-drug-testing of drivers. The wearing of seat-belts and the prohibition of mobile-phone use while driving is also enforced, and random police checks on vehicle road-worthiness are also common.
Draconian? Maybe, but these measures have dramatically reduced fatalities and injuries, and also make driving more pleasurable, not having to deal with so many ratbag drivers.

Well said Devin.

@ azeen : Dude,you should call " Inglés sin barreras" and ask for your money back.

@ Cibaeño : You're the Man.

@ Roy : ...Sir......you are indeed a f@cking asshole...!

Just when I thought Roystone and others could not stoop lower they prove me wrong.The tragedy of 3 generations that perished under a tragic accident is simply more fodder for this hateful beast who cannot find anything Dominican acceptable to him.
Which begs the question; What is someone like Roy doing in DR ?
The obvious answer to all that have been in DT long enough is that he like many other trolls is obsessed by DR just like all the other trolls but in this case even Roystone has sunk to a new low!

@ azeen : Dude,you should call " Inglés sin barreras" and ask for your money back."
Says the retarded clapping seal.

clapping seal trini. Ever heard of "Psychological projection"
"An example of this behavior might be blaming another for self failure. The mind may avoid the discomfort of consciously admitting personal faults by keeping those feelings unconscious, and by redirecting libidinal satisfaction by attaching, or "projecting," those same faults onto another person or object."--- like the chinese in this case.

azeen, get a life. At the very leat respect this here thread and refrain from using this news item as a vehicle to attack the posters on here.

afrolatino=stillhere=azeen...you're only fooling yourself.

It seems cibaeño75,
has no problem with a poster calling another a "f@cking asshole", but becomes indignant blog-site policeman over "retarded clapping seal".
Also he has a problem suggesting "afrolatino=stillhere=azeen" but no problem with Trinitario809=Trinitario1844=ateo2010=ateo2011=ateo2012=ateo2013=ateo2014=ateo2015=ateo2016

He's attacking you personally. Deal with it. Azeen was addressing me personally. Understand? Or do I have to go into further detail so that your brain can grasp where I'm coming from? I'm not here to defend your person. Please.

Sorry to disappoint you Roy, But nope, I don;t believe in superstitions. I just hope you don;t believe that a Black cat pass in front of you brings bad luck.

May they rest in peace!

Perez,
So you don't believe in Jesus, the Virgin Mary, Allah, Santa or the Tooth Fairy?

These are all of my wifes relatives. She says they are the most humble people on the earth and live day to day. She recalls many times as a child staying with the family in DR. The NY Post Newspaper reports today that a fund is setup to help pay for the burial costs. We are writing our own check right now to "Juan Gonzalez as Trustee" and mail to Attorney Jose Antonio Rodriguez 644 Soundview Ave Bronx NY 10473

I have verified the Lawyers information on Lawyers.com and this is a legitimate lawyers address, so it is o.k. to send money

@ bringbacktrujillo Sorry for your loss and thank you for the information.

@Roy: I certainly do not care about whoever you think I am.
I do not believe you to be an Aussie yourself,but for the sake of this argument,let's say that you are.
Look,I might not know a lot about your sophisticated culture back in Australia,but I could surely shed some light regarding mine.
You see? When a tragedy like this one occurs to one of us ,Dominicans hurt,mourn,cry and sympathize.

Whereas the sophisticated people ( I'm just guessing) back in Australia probably set up some sort of comedy roast right at the funeral parlor,where the "mourners" proceed to rip the deceased a new asshole (no pun) by telling jokes about how the deceased smells better now than when "it" was alive and about how everybody new that he or she was a "stiff" and....well...you get the idea.
On the other hand,We,the "lesser" people of the Dominican Republic believe that people who engage in that sort of act are just assholes or pieces of human excrement,plain and simple.
If I offended you then I apologize,but I'll ask you to please,take into account the cultural differences.

@azeen : Like we say in the DR :Qué comes que adivinas? "

I am retarded,and a proud one.

I name my toes,talk to trees and go berserk when the ice cream truck plays that beautiful music announcing its arrival at my retarded neighborhood.

But all in all,I'll always possess something you'll never attain.
and that is : Reading comprehension.

ARF,ARF,ARF (that means lol in seal).

@Trini. This is BRILLIANT!!. You're proving to be an excellent subject for me. Your ability to embrace something seemingly negative as a way of protecting and promoting self esteem is EXTRA-ordinary. I woul like to try a few more word associations with you. I beseech you to play along. Let's begin with "NINCOMPOOP".

Trinitario809, declares

"Whereas the sophisticated people ( I'm just guessing) back in Australia probably set up some sort of comedy roast right at the funeral parlor,where the "mourners" proceed to rip the deceased a new asshole (no pun) by telling jokes about how the deceased smells better now than when "it" was alive and about how everybody new that he or she was a "stiff" and....well...you get the idea."

Well it's obvious he's never been to Australia or read anything about it, or human nature in general. His imagination or guess also suggests he has some serious psychological condition.

Trinitario809, also states:

"On the other hand,We,the "lesser" people of the Dominican Republic believe that people who engage in that sort of act are just assholes or pieces of human excrement,plain and simple."

His words, no one elses, and certainly not mine, despite his feeble attempt to attribute them to me.

I have been to many funerals and wakes in the Dominican Republic, so I know what they are about. They are almost as common as "Baby Shower" parties (when some underage pregnant girl is expecting a cute little bundle-of-joy from Jesus).

It seems to me that had the love, adoration, respect and concern shown for the deceased at these funerals been shown to the unfortunate individual when they were still alive, they may have lived longer and not died from diabetes, heart-attack, alcohol-poisoning, road-trauma or suicide.

bringbacktrujillo,

My condolences to you and your wife. Thank you for providing the details of where the "Dominicans (here who) hurt, mourn, cry and sympathize." can actually do something useful by sending money, rather than pouring abuse on me for asking a simple question.

Trinitario809, Perez, cibaeño75, xwill7 and Pepe32,
how much money have you sent. Can I guess?

Roystone, you don't have so much as an inkling as to how much of my time or money I spend on causes dear to me so don't assume. And again, this thread is a poor place to vent your nonsense and carry on (even relatives of the victims have come on here and yet you insist)but again it's just demonstrative of how classless you are.

To save me guessing or assuming, cibaeño75,
How much?

If you're lookong for a hand-out you're barking up the wrong tree.

RoyStone wrote :

"I have been to many funerals and wakes in the Dominican Republic, so I know what they are about"



Almost brought a tear to my eye,Roy....you almost did!

RoyStone also says:

"My condolences to you and your wife. Thank you for providing the details of where the "Dominicans (here who) hurt, mourn, cry and sympathize." can actually do something useful by sending money, rather than pouring abuse on me for asking a simple question"


Waaaahhh...cry me a river!

RoyStones speculates :

Roy "Trinitario809, Perez, cibaeño75, xwill7 and Pepe32,"


You forgot to add "Roystone".

RoyStone asks:

"how much money have you sent. Can I guess?"


Will it make any difference if I tell you?
Besides,you think that anything related to hard work,honesty, and in this case,solidarity is SOOO UN-DOMINICAN,REMEMBER???

RoyStone ALSO SAYS :


"They are almost as common as "Baby Shower" parties (when some underage pregnant girl is expecting a cute little bundle-of-joy from Jesus)."


Nice touch...........ASSHOLE!

@Azeen :

Nincompoop : "Brownish organic compound used by azeen to brush his teeth 3 times a day.

This substance is composed of 1% nincom and 99% poop"

This "conversation" was over a few comments ago,but you just keep coming back for more.
So why should I keep on beating on a dead horse?
You'll probably won't comprehend this reply,so...HI-YO SILVER TO YOU MY FRIEND!

Tonto, i mean Trini; you're back and you've done just fabulous with the first word. Today's word is: CRETIN.