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Santo Domingo.- Discos, bars, restaurants, art galleries and other businesses were burning out of control as of 7pm Monday in the Pueblo Pescadores (fishing village), of the seaside resort town of Las Terrenas, in Dominican Republic's northeastern Samaná Province.

“The blaze started around 5am and it’s still burning. The beachfront restaurants including the La Salsa are all gone, the firefighters were called from Samaná but still haven’t arrived,” said Delvis Martinez by phone to El Dia, Channel 11.

He said the fire spreads quickly throughout since most of the businesses are made of wood. He said the Environment Ministry bans the use of concrete within the 60 meter area from the high water mark.

“The have no injuries yet. The people were starting their workday but realized that there was no chance to control it,” Martinez said, adding that the only fire truck in Las Terrenas had been damaged “for some time.”

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Written by: Spimx, 7 May 2012 8:21 AM
From: Canada
Agree with you!! Stupid government... And if somebody don't like... Then don't read it!!!
Written by: josean This user is banned, 7 May 2012 8:35 AM
From: United States, Guillermo President 2016 Because Our Future Depends On It!




Thank you!


Written by: Atabey, 7 May 2012 8:36 AM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--

Blame everything on the government. How about those businesses pitching in and having a community Fire emergency plan? Even in advanced nations like the US, there are still cases of volunteer Fire departments!

Get off this government must solve all our problems track. That's the old paradigm.
Written by: Juango, 7 May 2012 8:43 AM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Is this part of a Grand Plan to clear this area and torched intentionally? Will they ever get permits to rebuild? Does some Politico want that area cleared for some personal gain? Just asking....hummmm
hope nobody was hurt in this mess.
Written by: zooma, 7 May 2012 9:02 AM
From: United States, and Dominican Republic

Community involvement does make a difference. Punta Cana has involved the local government, hotel association, and Rotary International with the construction, now in the final stages, of a fire station and emergency center. It also acquired two donated pumpers, turnout gear, jaws of life. There are plans to acquire an ambulance. Punta Cana airport has also offered to assist with the continuing firefighting training of the fire crew.
Written by: cibaeño75, 7 May 2012 9:04 AM
From: United States, Brooklyn
"Blame everything on the government. How about those businesses pitching in and having a community Fire emergency plan? Even in advanced nations like the US, there are still cases of volunteer Fire departments!

Get off this government must solve all our problems track. That's the old paradigm."

If the government cannot be depended on to provide such a basic and necessary service as putting out a fire then what is the point of having said government anyway? Security and protection of property are some of the paramount reasons as to why government exists in the first place.
Written by: Atabey, 7 May 2012 9:05 AM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--
Zooma,

The non-sense peddlers on DT will not be so easily schooled. Thanks for the input.
Written by: anthonyC, 7 May 2012 9:13 AM
From: United States
Sure...Blame the Government.


It has nothing to do with the shoddy construction or the fact that none of the businesses made any attempt at fire prevention or installed fire-fighting equipment.

I wonder if any even had a fire extinguisher let alone a sprinkler system.

BTW If the PRD was in power the Fire Dept would have arrived but wouldn't have lifted a finger until they were given a "Tip"
Written by: WalterPolo, 7 May 2012 9:23 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
That's a lot of landmarks and memories for many.

Sorry for that loss.

Anybody remember the now defunct restaurant /discotec "DINY" from the late seventies?
Written by: generoso, 7 May 2012 10:12 AM
From: Dominican Republic
What a shame, "Pueblo de Pescadores" was the high point of travel to "Las Terrenas" along with the old "Tropic Banana" hotel and bar, owned by long time, burned-out, French residents of LT.
I hope that the damage is not major, and can be fixed promptly, as I would hate for that so unique spot in LT, to vanish and be replaced by modern structures.
Maybe ABC200, the "oracle of Samana" can update us on these terrible news.
WalterPolo:
Man... you are such an old fart, lol.
Written by: josean This user is banned, 7 May 2012 10:14 AM
From: United States, Guillermo President 2016 Because Our Future Depends On It!


"If the government cannot be depended on to provide such a basic and necessary service as putting out a fire then what is the point of having said government anyway?”


“Security and protection of property are some of the paramount reasons as to why government exists in the first place."

Excactly cibaeño75!
Written by: josean This user is banned, 7 May 2012 10:22 AM
From: United States, Guillermo President 2016 Because Our Future Depends On It!



Zooma says:

"Community involvement does make a difference."

It's called the PLD's ASTRONOMICAL TAXES!

That is PRETTY SERIOUS INVOLVEMENT IF you ask me!


Written by: ohhhvictor, 7 May 2012 10:54 AM
From: United States
And Josie is blaming the Metro? LOL

Maybe with the burros in 21 st century he wanted to buy they will avoid the fire..Right?

Josie Hiede Vivo was a famous Sanky Panky in that spot! You can tell by his education.. :)
Written by: mountainfrog, 7 May 2012 10:58 AM
From: Dominican Republic
This sad news does not have anything to do with PRD or PLD issues.
It is all about the incompetence, indifference and carelessness of the local administration. The Las Terrenas firefighters were donated vehicles from Europe and never moved a finger to maintain them or had money to put fuel into them.
Sad but my crystal ball saw it coming.....

BTW, a motor pump could have used sea water from the near by beach (distance is only a few yards). The 15 owners (knowing how useless the local firesleepers are) of that "Pueblo de Pescadores" could have invested in such a pump...

mountainfrog
Written by: dreadlocks This user is banned, 7 May 2012 11:13 AM
From: United States
Written by: Atabey, 7 May 2012 8:36 AM
From: United States, NYC

Blame everything on the government. How about those businesses pitching in and having a community Fire emergency plan? Even in advanced nations like the US, there are still cases of volunteer Fire departments!

Get off this government must solve all our problems track. That's the old paradigm.

more genius remarks from the resident sage. maybe, just maybe, if the central government disbursed enough funds to municipalities, in order to fund such vital necessities as fire fighting, then some proviosions can be made for such eventualities. when only 4% of revenue is disbursed, then you get shortfalls. as Cibaeno advises, that is one main aspect of government..volunteer fire departments function in conjunction with city and municipal departments, not as an entity to themselves. i am sure that mountainfrog is correct in his assessment that nobody bothered to maintain the firetrucks.
Written by: synapse, 7 May 2012 11:14 AM
From: United States

I hate to see anyone lose their income source and investment, but I think that most of what people claim is so charming in Las Terrenas, Boca Chica, El Cortesito, Sosua and Cabarete for that matter is simply an eye-soar and should have never been permitted to be built in the first place.

These shanty businesses were fine 30 years ago when this was a sleepy place but should never have been allowed to become the squalid eye-soars of crazy foreign investors trying to capitalize on a once secretive enclave. I see this all over the Caribbean and it cheapens and lessens the image when they go from funky shacks to expensive businesses in the same shack.

I for one hope they don't allow this to get rebuilt and think they should get rid of a lot more of this junk throughout the DR.
Written by: dreadlocks This user is banned, 7 May 2012 11:16 AM
From: United States
government has responsibilities to citizenry, and emergency relief is one of them, especially in a town like Las Terrenas, which is a showcase of tourism. so, Atabey, run off to google, and try to dig up some article about a devastating fire in Jamaica. that will extinguish the blaze in Las Terrenas
Written by: dreadlocks This user is banned, 7 May 2012 11:38 AM
From: United States
victor, what are you doing , posting nonsense on an internet site, at 10.54 in the morning? playing hookey from kindergarten, again? be careful of the truant officers if , in fact, they have those in your ghetto.
Written by: RobertoJose, 7 May 2012 11:42 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.....Don't sing it, just bring it !!!!
AnthonyC,

There you go, again, talking out the wrong end...... A true government wouldn't allow shoddy construction, that's what building inspectors are for and a real fire department with a Fire Marshall wouldn't allow a business to open if proper fire protection wasn't in place, you know, the red thing with the pressure gauge and hose attached to it that has fire extinguishing chemicals in it. I bet you think the current fire Marshall will do an investigation to determine the cause.

This island is in shambles, because people like YOU exist.

You might learn something someday, don't know when, but I hope you will.
Written by: RobertoJose, 7 May 2012 11:44 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.....Don't sing it, just bring it !!!!
Vick's another one, that if you held him upside down in a pool of water upto his waist he will still breathe.
Written by: dreadlocks This user is banned, 7 May 2012 11:54 AM
From: United States
says RobertoJose

Written by: RobertoJose, 7 May 2012 11:44 AM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Vick's another one, that if you held him upside down in a pool of water he will still breathe.

you think he breathes?
Written by: dreadlocks This user is banned, 7 May 2012 11:55 AM
From: United States
says Chef BoyArDee

Josie Hiede Vivo was a famous Sanky Panky in that spot! You can tell by his education..

just like we can tell that you are an imbecile, by your LACK of education
Written by: Spimx, 7 May 2012 11:58 AM
From: Canada
If it was a real government I should be a regulation that any business stablishment have an emergency plan, including fire protection emergency etc... Or that only applies to little New York?? Can somebody explain to me please!!!!
Written by: DaveB, 7 May 2012 12:16 PM
From: United States
dreadlocks, If you are referring to United States, you are completely incorrect. Volunteer firefighters in my region, several states, are capable of fighting fires independently. Both volunteer and municipal departments cross their jurisdictional borders to help each other. As for central government funding, there maybe federal grants, but fire departments are supported true local tax revenues. Where do you claim to live?
Written by: ELPAPA999, 7 May 2012 12:35 PM
From: United States, California
Firefighters are no where to be found--HAHAHAHA---tipical of the DR.
Funny but not too funny.
Written by: josean This user is banned, 7 May 2012 12:41 PM
From: United States, Guillermo President 2016 Because Our Future Depends On It!


The issue is not whether the Fire Department should be Volunteer or Professional anybody who is willing to risk their live for another is a professional hero in my book whether they get paid or not.

In fact for what the government pays “professional” fighters in DR is almost like being a volunteer anyway.

The issue is planning and organization.

Whatever the model, the government must be the one to be the catalyst for organization, of training, setting standard operation procedures and monitoring compliance with all requirements. Establishing fire safety codes etc.

It is only reasonable to expect at least this minimal responsibility from the government period!


Written by: Atabey, 7 May 2012 12:44 PM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--

"This sad news does not have anything to do with PRD or PLD issues.

It is all about the incompetence, indifference and carelessness of the local administration. The Las Terrenas firefighters were donated vehicles from Europe and never moved a finger to maintain them or had money to put fuel into them.

Sad but my crystal ball saw it coming.....

BTW, a motor pump could have used sea water from the near by beach (distance is only a few yards). The 15 owners (knowing how useless the local firesleepers are) of that "Pueblo de Pescadores" could have invested in such a pump..."

-mountainfrog

Excellent observation Mountainfrog. Lost to O'dready and the rest of the unthinking crowd.

Written by: Atabey, 7 May 2012 12:52 PM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--
Written by: DaveB, 7 May 2012 12:16 PM
From: United States

dreadlocks, If you are referring to United States, you are completely incorrect. Volunteer firefighters in my region, several states, are capable of fighting fires independently. Both volunteer and municipal departments cross their jurisdictional borders to help each other. As for central government funding, there maybe federal grants, but fire departments are supported true local tax revenues. Where do you claim to live?"

Dave,

O'Dready has trouble thinking period.
Written by: zooma, 7 May 2012 12:56 PM
From: United States, and Dominican Republic

"Zooma says:

"Community involvement does make a difference."

It's called the PLD's ASTRONOMICAL TAXES!

That is PRETTY SERIOUS INVOLVEMENT IF you ask me! " Josean

Josean, It has little to do with taxes and a lot to do with making an impaired system work to your advantage. I for one get involved with my community with projects (fire station) that improve the lives of the population rather than sit back and spit out anti PLD balderdash. The community actions enable me to turn my sentiments away from the politics to something positive. You set the example when you can achieve more than the politicos to advance the lives of the community. Then, you may have earned the opportunity to criticise should they, the politicians, not be able to fulfill their duty. When I do criticise, it is usually across the board for all the politicos, with some exceptions. They may belong to different clubs but all come from the same school.



Written by: josean This user is banned, 7 May 2012 1:02 PM
From: United States, Guillermo President 2016 Because Our Future Depends On It!
To Atabey the PLD apologist.

They did have a pump!


"Fire reduces to ashes bars and restaurants in Samana"

May 7, 2012

Samana, Dominican Republic.- A fire reduced to ashes several restaurants and bars in the Village of Pescador Las Terrenas, Samaná province.

The fire started around four in the morning on Monday, and according to our reporter in the area there are no victims.

According to the reports the fire was caused by a short circuit and started in a bar named Mosquito.

The fire spread rapidly because supposedly in the community there is no fire truck, so they had to find a pump and take water from the sea.

Noticias SIN



Written by: josean This user is banned, 7 May 2012 1:08 PM
From: United States, Guillermo President 2016 Because Our Future Depends On It!



zooma,

Who has been in power for the last 8 years claiming to be God's Gift to Modernity and organization?



In DR the local governments have little power and even less resources.

If they did Lie-onel Fernandez would not be going desperately around the country trying to pave every back road trying to save Danilo’s and Margarita’s Gluteus Maximus.



Written by: dreadlocks This user is banned, 7 May 2012 1:27 PM
From: United States
says the cretin, Atabey


Dave,

O'Dready has trouble thinking period.

there is no city in the USA which functions with all volunteer fire departments. some municipalities have volunteer departments, but they work in conjunction with the city´s fire departments. if, for example, a major fire broke out in Hempstead, NY, the local fire department would be the first responder, and , if it was needed, volunteer departments from surrounding villages, such as Hyde Park, would pitch in to help, if needed. i will not argue this with sabelotodo Atabey. he thinks he knows more about everything than anyone else. when i was in first making my acquaintance with New York, this country bumpkin had never heard of America. just like he tries to ridicule my understanding of baseball, yet, when i was watching Seaver and Kooz, and Bob Gibson, he had never seen a television.
Written by: platano70, 7 May 2012 6:47 PM
From: United States
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Written by: MrThelmoAlmeydaRancier, 8 May 2012 9:19 PM
From: United States, NJ
This is what happens when you don't pay propperty taxes,Money should be allocated by the State

or jurisdiction to cover at least the pumps and trainning thus given.

Dreadlocks is absolutely correct on his last statement. Furthermore when the nearby boroughs

or municipalities are in need for extra fire fighter and equipments they help each other regardless

if they are paid or voluteers fire fighters. Such is the case of Teaneck,Bogota,Richfield pk and

Hackensack.with a paid fire dept They all have ambulances and first aid squads. In must cases

the first 3 forementioned have to aid the City of Hackenscak even if it has paid firefighters.

We must admitt the resourses come from the municipal taxes mainly plus State taxes. This is

acomplished from the US$10,000 in municipal average property tax + another US$5.000 State

tax +US$2,000 county+ US$3,000 federal tax. This is all based on a $54,000 income.

Written by: dreadlocks This user is banned, 9 May 2012 12:10 PM
From: United States
thanks for clearing that one up, Mr Rancier. mysteriously, but expectedly, sabelotodo Atabey has gone silent on the subject, missing in action.
Written by: DaveB, 9 May 2012 12:30 PM
From: United States
Where did you come up with those average property tax numbers, in the US? Are you sure you meant that much? Do you know that property tax is not based on income? Are you just making stuff up?
Written by: MrThelmoAlmeydaRancier, 9 May 2012 8:35 PM
From: United States, NJ
DavedB:

I am going by a house such as my ,One family house valued at US$580,000 30x30 3 floors.The

land is 110x50 including the structure."L" shaped driveway that can acomodate 10 cars"15" wide.

I don't know what part of the USA you are in ,but in Bergen county NJ the taxes are pretty steep

since we have no industry. If youi don't believe me just look it up.

In Florida the houses are cheap and the taxes don't exeed US$5,000 with more propperty and are

all ranch houses. If you are talking about NYState the houses are more expensive and the taxes

are less,but again you don't have the breathing space we have in NJ, since they are mostly non

detached and there is not big back yard exept in the up state section.

DaveD: If you purchase a 2 family house in Bergen county the price is higher, so are the taxes ,

because they consider that a business,since you are looking for some one to help foot the bill.

Written by: MrThelmoAlmeydaRancier, 9 May 2012 9:19 PM
From: United States, NJ
continue :

DaveB:

I don't know if you know the closer your house is to NYC ,the higher $ value is per sq.ft .We are

talking about 6 miles from the GW bridge and 20 to the Lincoln tunnel. Facilities are there to

commute by busses or train going to NYC on either direction every 20 minutes on peak hrs and

1hr non peak hrs 7 days a week from 6am-1am. People do work up North at all hrs therefore the

need is there.

I forgot to mention to you, people leave their car at home and rather use public transportation to

commute, since it is cheaper and faster than by car, bumper to bumper.

The crossing of the bridge cost US$12 as well as the tunnel one way only, towards NYC, back no

tolls. This is done to encourage the people to use mass transit where the parking goes from $20

and up depending where in NYC. I mentioned this last one because that is the only way the DR

METRO is to survive.

.
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