They're not Dominicans and never will be for whole eternity.

¡Querían Moraó Cojan Moraó!

A new constitution has been published in Haiti, giving some 2 million citizens living abroad the right to own land and run for public office.

President Michel Martelly said the new text would allow Haitians to hold dual nationality.

"This matter was creating division between the diaspora and people here in Haiti," said Mr Martelly.

Remittances from Haitians living in the US and Canada have a huge impact on the economy of the Caribbean country.

Haiti is one of the poorest countries in the Americas.

Its capital, Port-au-Prince, was hit by a devastating earthquake in January 2010. Thousands of people still live in tent cities.

The new constitution was approved by parliament in May 2011.

President Martelly initially opposed the right of Haitians to hold dual nationality and tried to persuade legislators to change the text.

But he finally bowed to international pressure and signed it.

"All Haitians are Haitians," he said after the signature at a ceremony at the pr

IF "All Haitians are Haitians," why wouldn't these people all fall under the same category?

Perhaps those unions from Dominican and Haitian parentage would be legally different, but if illegal people moved into another country, that host country doesn't have to accept them as citizens.

Interesting times ahead. What IMPACT will Haiti's New Constitution have on the status of Haitians living in DR?

Why not give ALL of them an apartment next to Malecon Center also.

Written by: DONT_BE_SILENT, 20 Jun 2012 9:51 AM
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
Why not give ALL of them an apartment next to Malecon Center also.
NOT A GOOD IDEA WE NEED TO SAVE THESES APTS FOR THE DOMINICAN DRUG DEALERS
AND SOME APTS FOR OUR FRIENDS OVER IN PUERTO RICO, THEY ALSO NEED AN APT WITH A OCEAN VIEW. DONT THEY?

I note that these workers will now receive an ID from the JCE ,,what exactly will this ID be ..I very much doubt if it will be a cedula like Dominicans have , giving them rights to vote and to hold a Domiican passport and other rights of a citizen ..it will probably be something like a temporary card that has to be renewed at regular intervals and may show a picture and at the back saying what are the limitations of this card

Dominicans, born in the Dominican Republic, are Dominican, (regardless of their parentage) by any sane or humane logic. It is not their fault that the government has failed in their duty to secure the national boarder with Haiti. Punishing the children for the crimes of their parents, grand-pareants or great-grand-pareants went out with the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:5 and Deuteronomy 5:9).

Written by: SPiNACH, 20 Jun 2012 2:19 PM

From: Canada

I
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But
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Make
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Blood
Boil


Im pretty sure this character didn't think this way right after the earthquake, when we took care of tens of thousands of Haitians that needed medical attention,and food.

We never invaded Haiti, Haiti invaded the D.R, and when they did, they killed thousands of Dominicans just because the color of their skin.

I can't tell whether SPiNACH is really retarded, really butthurt, or just your usual troll. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and choose the latter.

Written by: SPiNACH, 20 Jun 2012 2:19 PM
From: Canada
I
Love
Latinos
But
Dominicans
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My
Blood
Boil
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YOU have a PROBLEM with your space bar, change the keyboard so you can BULLSH!T better

Written by: SPiNACH, 20 Jun 2012 2:48 PM
From: Canada
We Haitians do Speak Spanish , I personally don't but at least 3 or 4 million Haitians speak Spanish and the rest like myself when we listen to your music or listen to your Radio broadcasts do at least understand what the issue is about , but you don't speak either French or Creole., but you ll learn English just to go grab American Ca$h and take advantages , how typical of yous .
Even though we are neighbors and were once brothers and suf. fered many things together in the past , just like our white mas ters had done with the Indians and us , you re trying to pass to Haitians .
I love Panama and Cuba , they are the opposites in their thinking .
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I would Guess you LOVE how Cubans got rid sometime ago of all the illegal haitians, and what they do with them when they get lost trying to reach Florida or Bahamas, very nice....

Not only SPiNACH is perhaps the most PATHETIC and DESPICABLE HAITIAN TROLL lurking in these forums, but in plenty of others as well...he is on CNN, The Miami Herald, you name it, under different aliases, the same sad, poor writing style laden with spelling errors, the same unfulfilled rage and anger: when he's out of fantasies or two-word punches, he resorts to personal insults. SAD, isn't?
But perhaps the most revealing thing is that this "Haitian patriot's" rear-end is sitting well-cushioned and safe THOUSANDS of miles from his beloved Haiti, FAR, far away from the stench, the insecurity, the daily tragedies and the squalor...well-fed by American or Canadian dollars, who knows? In one site he claims he's in Canada, in another, the States..typical Haitian DO-NOTHING diaspora: big mouth=nothing else.
At least, if he were IN HAITI, facing daily life there, or even here in the DR -where I see first-hand his millions of marauding pauper countrymen, I'd have a bit of respect!

SPiNACH probably isn't even Haitian, I'll go as far as to say they might even be a fellow Dominican. Trolls are odd creatures with questionable morals, they set bait and watch the world burn.

So let's try to slap some sense into this hysterical SPINACH troll, shall we?

FACT: The definition of "island brotherhood" for Haitians is: give up your land and jump out to sea, we want to turn it into the same kind of wasteland we have managed to do with our one-third of this island. Apparently the tens of thousands of our ancestors -most of the population- who the Haitian bestial hordes killed, raped and robbed in the 19th century wasn't enough. We DID get the message, and you Haitians haven't changed ONE BIT.
FACT: Grab any South Florida, Canadian, etc media outlet and the word Haitian -when not associated with dire island despair- pops right out with gangs, rapists, murderers, etc ...just like in the DR, hardly a week doesn't go by without news of Haitians committing all kinds of crimes...why don't you give it a try and do a search?
FACT: Haitian women in this country are known to even steal or buy Dominican ID cards to give birth here, heck, that says it all!

FACT: That hospital in Haiti you are bragging about? A foreign donation, PERIOD, like everything else that actually works in Haiti, foreign charity. ONE decent hospital, in a country ravaged by cholera deaths. Cuban doctors doing charity work everywhere, and the Haitian doctors? Filling out visa forms for anywhere...the DR is BURSTING with many of them. Ask any of the thousands of Haitian college students in the DR what their plans are: guess how many say: ANYWHERE BUT HAITI!
Hospitals -even some state-run ones, to say the least- in the DR are light-years away from anything you Haitians can dream of. Ask all the illegal Haitians showing up in our ERs or the Haitian women coming to give birth by the thousands, with NO pre-natal care, costing us taxpayers millions, they'll tell you.
FACT: So Haiti is on the comeback? We've been waiting for a comeback, honestly, anything happening in the next 200 years?
Facts speak louder than words, and Spinach ranting here -a DR site-? SUBLIME!

In regard to this article, if these people were given Dominican ID documents before, even if obtained fraudulently by their parents -which is probably the situation in most cases-, heck, just let them have them renewed, it would be complicated to challenge this even if it's the right legal reaction from the JCE, which I'm sure will challenge and stall the decision with appeals in order not to be bullied. The dirty. mushrooming foreign-funded NGOs cashing in with these people, too bad for you the country is increasingly becoming aware of your M.O.s and assorted bag of tricks. The aim is to block ANY functioning immigration/border control/ID fraud system and let things AS they are, with massive illegal crossings to CASH IN on illegals themselves, period. AMNESTY for the illegals in the DR, and NO CONTROL for the ones sneaking in during years to come!
While a FEW agro-bussiness and construction firm pockets get full, the poor and unemployed of THIS country are paying the price!

Soverano you are a true Dominican, keep telling it like it is.

...by the way JCE already appealed this ruling.

Send them all home!!